Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters/Members to articulate views effectively

[scroobal]

Wanted: Genuine PAP members or supporters who are able to engage in debates and discussions and provide insight into policies and directions mapped out by the PAP.

Aim: Raise standard of debate and understand the basis of decisions made by the government.

Current Situation: Though there are many in this forum that range from anti PAP to neutral and most of them can hold their own, the small number that are pro-pap and pro establishment are basically endowed with borderline intelligence if any. I am sure there are capable individuals who are pro- establishment and can hold their own.

 

[po2wq]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

laidis oso no goot enuff? ...

"For information on how you can be awarded (sic) for posting the right messages in forums, please contact [email protected]." ...

tot 'under heavy reward sure got brave man' ... no brave man wanna cum 4ward? ...

:p

 

[scroobal]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

You picked it well bro. If they dont' even know the meaning of award, how to progress to the next step.

laidis oso no goot enuff? ...

"For information on how you can be awarded (sic) for posting the right messages in forums, please contact [email protected]." ...

tot 'under heavy reward sure got brave man' ... no brave man wanna cum 4ward? ...

:p

 

[Glaringly]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

Wanted: Genuine PAP members or supporters who are able to engage in debates and discussions and provide insight into policies and directions mapped out by the PAP.

Many of the PAP policies have become indefensible.

Just look at recent debates at YPAP website, when they could not defend, they threaten you. Even the Mps at P65 couldn't be bothered after a while.

Are you are looking for a pin in a haystack.

Happy New Year

 

[scroobal]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

I would agree with you in the main. I am sure there some angles that may prove positive that we are not aware of. Hopefully the pin in the haystack may emerge.

There might be even be someone who is keen to change some of their policies from within, recognising the flaws that are in it.

Happy New Year to you as well bro.

Many of the PAP policies have become indefensible.

Just look at recent debates at YPAP website, when they could not defend, they threaten you. Even the Mps at P65 couldn't be bothered after a while.

Are you are looking for a pin in a haystack.

Happy New Year

 

[elephanto]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

imho, look no further than .... Comrade Internet Brigade ! bona fide pappy,

dunno him neber mind, surely u recognize the holy avatar of 'no porn' Lui Tuck Yew ?

Juz read his postings, Scroo, he is a pretty cogent debater ....

 

[Highfalutin]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

Where are the returns in fighting a sure lose battle with easily caught out lies in online forums with their limited audience when they are able to blind the entire citizenry through the monopoly of printed and broadcast media they are in full control of?

 

[elephanto]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

Where are the returns in fighting a sure lose battle with easily caught out lies in online forums with their limited audience when they are able to blind the entire citizenry through the monopoly of printed and broadcast media they are in full control of?

Hey , u & yr highfalutin ideas, 'aspirational' understand ?

Our PM always highlight importance of new media, we must always attempt to conquer, where got sure lose one ? :p

Gong Xi Fuck More, okie ?

 

[kingrant]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

I see you are recruiting would-be defectors, moles, double agents? Can a non-PAP political master pay as well?

Wanted: Genuine PAP members or supporters who are able to engage in debates and discussions and provide insight into policies and directions mapped out by the PAP.

Aim: Raise standard of debate and understand the basis of decisions made by the government.

Current Situation: Though there are many in this forum that range from anti PAP to neutral and most of them can hold their own, the small number that are pro-pap and pro establishment are basically endowed with borderline intelligence if any. I am sure there are capable individuals who are pro- establishment and can hold their own.

 

[Highfalutin]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

imho, look no further than .... Comrade Internet Brigade ! bona fide pappy,

dunno him neber mind, surely u recognize the holy avatar of 'no porn' Lui Tuck Yew ?

Juz read his postings, Scroo, he is a pretty cogent debater ....

Well, the cum drooling from his mouth is pretty obvious.................

 

[yellow_people]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

Wanted: Genuine PAP members or supporters who are able to engage in debates and discussions and provide insight into policies and directions mapped out by the PAP.

Aim: Raise standard of debate and understand the basis of decisions made by the government.

Current Situation: Though there are many in this forum that range from anti PAP to neutral and most of them can hold their own, the small number that are pro-pap and pro establishment are basically endowed with borderline intelligence if any. I am sure there are capable individuals who are pro- establishment and can hold their own.

Not much can be said for the PAP but one must credit the PAP for having the foresight to ensure that minority ethnic group have always remained very much a part of the mainstream politics and the electoral process as a whole. They could have gone with ethnic group or NMP representation, which would have been a lot easier route but they wisely and courageously chose not too. In 1992 Goh Chok Tong made this remark, " We can rule without the minorities, but we don't want to". For this you must give credit to the PAP.

Contrast that with moderate opposition parties. One can barely find the representation of minority candidates as they hardly have a coherent platform that one can identify with, much less a platform where minority interests are represented. The recent exodus of minority opposition politician from WP and NSP should not come as a surprise. It is unlikely the opposition can deny PAP a 2/3 majority in the next General Elections.

This is an area where the PAP is still ahead of the pack.

 

[scroobal]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

One of the interesting things in life is when 2 chaps argue about PAP policies and they both end up quoting different anonymous PAP cadres as the source of their information. To determine who is right and in order not to reveal their identity and their order in the food chain, they will quote the length of the cadre's membership number. The shorter the better.

There is a chap well known in SCC who starts any political conversation by stating very clearly that his PAP cadre acquaintance has a single digit membership number.

The nuances of party politics.

I see you are recruiting would-be defectors, moles, double agents? Can a non-PAP political master pay as well?

 

[Highfalutin]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

In 1992 Goh Chok Tong made this remark, " We can rule without the minorities, but we don't want to". For this you must give credit to the PAP.

He was talking cock and you quote him? Ask him to put his words into action. Singapore calling Malaysia UMNO...........Singapore calling Malaysia UMNO........I've got an idea for you......................

 

[Internet Brigade]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

He was talking cock and you quote him? Ask him to put his words into action. Singapore calling Malaysia UMNO...........Singapore calling Malaysia UMNO........I've got an idea for you......................

Much of the unhappiness is tied to ethnic-centric policies which are meant to be inclusive. The challenge of governance is to provide the balance for competing wants and insatiable desires.

To claim that the above statement is rubbish is a testament to the racist bigotry the government has to stamp out.

 

[yellow_people]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

He was talking cock and you quote him? Ask him to put his words into action. Singapore calling Malaysia UMNO...........Singapore calling Malaysia UMNO........I've got an idea for you......................

No he wasn't. Perhaps you could provide the specifics instead of simply stating "talking cock".

 

[Internet Brigade]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

Wanted: Genuine PAP members or supporters who are able to engage in debates and discussions and provide insight into policies and directions mapped out by the PAP.

Aim: Raise standard of debate and understand the basis of decisions made by the government.

Current Situation: Though there are many in this forum that range from anti PAP to neutral and most of them can hold their own, the small number that are pro-pap and pro establishment are basically endowed with borderline intelligence if any. I am sure there are capable individuals who are pro- establishment and can hold their own.

Very few will bother to take up such an insincere offer.

In your framing of the above statements, you have effectively ridiculed the very people you hope to attract. If you feel the standard of debate in this forum is sub-par, then perhaps you need to ask yourself why that is.

Could it be because any thoughts that deviate form the norm (PAP bashing) is followed by spamming, trolling and insult hurling?

 

[elephanto]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

Much of the unhappiness is tied to ethnic-centric policies which are meant to be inclusive. The challenge of governance is to provide the balance for competing wants and insatiable desires.

To claim that the above statement is rubbish is a testament to the racist bigotry the government has to stamp out.

see what i mean , not your run-off-the-mill Ron Ron type of riff-raff, but cogent expression, good vocab & authoritative tone ....

Close yr eyes & you can almost hear Lui Tuck Yew speaking .... brilliant !

 

[scroobal]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

Forming a political party is a challenge by itself in Singapore. Getting quality members is another. Attracting the minorities is even a bigger challenge. Ask any political party in Singapore and they will tell you its like finding gold. Minorities tend to very cautious as they are readily identifiable within the community especially Malays. Any adverse reaction from the community or failure to seek endorsement leaves them dead in the water.

SDP however has made inroads but these are not quality candidates and similar to the quality of those from the majority race.

By the way, don't buy that crap from Goh Chok Tong. He made the remark when he was fighting the AMP. Anyone with common sense will know that any party that governs Singapore must take the Malays on board, token or otherwise. The geopolitics demands it. You think they made Malay the National language for sentimental reasons.

Note that the minorities can also form their own party along communal lines like PKMS but they haven't except for PKMS. Ever wonder why. I took would like to see the minorities come out in numbers.

In 1992 Goh Chok Tong made this remark, " We can rule without the minorities, but we don't want to". For this you must give credit to the PAP.

Contrast that with moderate opposition parties. One can barely find the representation of minority candidates as they hardly have a coherent platform that one can identify with, much less a platform where minority interests are represented. The recent exodus of minority opposition politician from WP and NSP should not come as a surprise. It is unlikely the opposition can deny PAP a 2/3 majority in the next General Elections.

This is an area where the PAP is still ahead of the pack.

 

[Highfalutin]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

" We can rule without the minorities, but we don't want to".

To yellow_people

A clear statement like that and you are asking for specifics?

To Internet Brigade

"To claim that the above statement is rubbish is a testament to the racist bigotry the government has to stamp out."

Are you quoting me right? To exclude the Malays is sensible and a possibility? Surely even PAP can't be that dumb! Who is practicing racial bigotry then?

 

[yellow_people]

Re: Looking for Genuine PAP Supporters Member to articulate views effectively

Many of the PAP policies have become indefensible.

This is what one keep hearing. Attack the PAP without a viable alternative in sight. Have the opposition really come up with a coherent alternative instead of set-play policies such as "minimum wage"? I don't see anything from moderate parties like WP and NSP. Any govt interference in the market place by regulation or imposing minimum wage is going to see an exodus of companies who are going find doing business here uncompetitive.

SDP appears to have some form of a plan. But those plans require a complete overhaul of the present system that would cause short to medium term hardship and pain. Perhaps a reason why SDP does poorly at the polls as the public is put of their aggressive style and the possibility of having to endure mayhem while the system is being fixed.

Just look at recent debates at YPAP website, when they could not defend, they threaten you. Even the Mps at P65 couldn't be bothered after a while.

One gets the same abuse here as well in case you haven't noticed.