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Living in JB 3 (Johore)

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FHBH12

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You never travel 2-3hr on public transport in Spore before to go school or work? From last time experience before the transport links are improved, just need to study or work in the west, stay in the north or north east, needed more than 2 hours taking public transport changing bus to mrt to bus. So is jam in the cool comfort of car better or in jam packed public transport plus walking under hot sun better?

My sense is most people's average commuting time is about 1-2 hr. 2-3 hr in a jam is draining if you are the driver. If it is really so good to be jammed at the bridge, a lot of Singaporeans would have migrated over to Johor. My guess is because of the jam, more people are migrating back to Singapore.
 

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i plan to own a msian car when ph is ready maybe 2 yrs time, then drive around msia with it.
hopefully like i'd said the ferry is ready too and i go a crusing back to spore to and fro.
u guys think it's workable, ideal? btw are we allowed to own a msian car?
 

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To me 1.5 hr max., beyond that its draining. Worse if its a regular feature.

I agree, lesser jam id go in more regularly,.

But now maybe hv Rm 50/trip.

Then I dunno oredi

My sense is most people's average commuting time is about 1-2 hr. 2-3 hr in a jam is draining if you are the driver. If it is really so good to be jammed at the bridge, a lot of Singaporeans would have migrated over to Johor. My guess is because of the jam, more people are migrating back to Singapore.
 

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Cannot bro, cannot.

Pr also cannot.

U can own n drive in msia.

If sporean can also own n drive in msia only.

i plan to own a msian car when ph is ready maybe 2 yrs time, then drive around msia with it.
hopefully like i'd said the ferry is ready too and i go a crusing back to spore to and fro.
u guys think it's workable, ideal? btw are we allowed to own a msian car?
 

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Yes I got a car in Malaysia and its cheap. 7 year old car and I use it for long trips and pump Ron 95. Insurance for me is S$200 per year. My Spore cars are 10 times more than that.. maybe Singapore is 10 times more likely to have accident? And my road tax is $50 per year. I couldn't believe it at first and I had to confirm that its not $50 per month cos in Singapore we are used to pay sky-high prices " after various subsidies "

Last week my grandma from the kampong called for ambulance to fetch her to hospital even though its just a minor pain. To and fro hospital + consultation + medicine the price is RM 7.00

I almost fainted when I heard this cos in Singapore the cost is easily S$500 AFTER "various subsidies"



i plan to own a msian car when ph is ready maybe 2 yrs time, then drive around msia with it.
hopefully like i'd said the ferry is ready too and i go a crusing back to spore to and fro.
u guys think it's workable, ideal? btw are we allowed to own a msian car?
 

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Yes I got a car in Malaysia and its cheap. 7 year old car and I use it for long trips and pump Ron 95. Insurance for me is S$200 per year. My Spore cars are 10 times more than that.. maybe Singapore is 10 times more likely to have accident? And my road tax is $50 per year. I couldn't believe it at first and I had to confirm that its not $50 per month cos in Singapore we are used to pay sky-high prices " after various subsidies "

Last week my grandma from the kampong called for ambulance to fetch her to hospital even though its just a minor pain. To and fro hospital + consultation + medicine the price is RM 7.00

I almost fainted when I heard this cos in Singapore the cost is easily S$500 AFTER "various subsidies"

Wow, that's super cheap! Btw, is your grandma a Malaysian?
 

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Yes grandma is a Malaysian. This is how the Malaysian govt takes good care of their Malaysia citizenship be it Malay or Chinese.

In Singapore they label u as a "pioneer generation" and promise to ask u to pay little after "subsidies" but its always 10 times more than the Malaysians are paying
 

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Yes grandma is a Malaysian. This is how the Malaysian govt takes good care of their Malaysia citizenship be it Malay or Chinese.

In Singapore they label u as a "pioneer generation" and promise to ask u to pay little after "subsidies" but its always 10 times more than the Malaysians are paying

malaysia govt take good care of the chinese?? HAahahahahaaa!!!
when i renew my passport, if they smile and greet me good morning, and not show me a black face becos i am chinese, i am happy already!!!
 

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malaysia govt take good care of the chinese?? HAahahahahaaa!!!
when i renew my passport, if they smile and greet me good morning, and not show me a black face becos i am chinese, i am happy already!!!

Bro, to be fair, if one "talk down" to Any person ( not you per se), they are not going to smile or be helpful. It actually starts with "you".... If on first contact one smile and greet the other person, even the most hardened person will be "softened" by the pleasant demeanour. I'm sure you would if you were on the other receiving end. Just imagine if you were to meet several people in the first couple hours in the morning who came up to you, no smile, sometimes rude, no greetings, just stick an application form under your noise and 'expect first class service' how would you react.
Before you "jump on me", I'm not Malay, however, when I have dealings with the Malays or which ever race, I find the pleasant demeanour I express is reciprocated....."Do unto others as you would have others do unto you..."
 

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in any society, a smile begets a smile.
go jb couple of times a week, immigration personnel mostly ok; no hostlility.
at uob bank i use, all counter staff able greet me with my name, none whatsoever in singapore dbs or uob.
 

menghuii

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I think these are superficial
ultimately you would demand good quality service and product.
if its good then I believe professionalism will compensate absence of such gestures.
 

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malaysia govt take good care of the chinese?? HAahahahahaaa!!!
when i renew my passport, if they smile and greet me good morning, and not show me a black face becos i am chinese, i am happy already!!!

it's not giving u ppl black face, it's tekan you ppl with 1001 reasons! LOL.
 
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I think these are superficial
ultimately you would demand good quality service and product.
if its good then I believe professionalism will compensate absence of such gestures.
Yes, it may be superficial, even with professionalism, appreciation and personable approach, would get you a more pleasant experience.......
When you pay a "token sum" you should not "demand" good quality service or product....
Name me one place where you get "Good Quality service and product" and I will show you their detractors.....
 

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it's not giving black face, it's tekan you ppl with 1001 reasons! LOL.
If you go prepared, what reasons can they tekan you with...... I have seen people going to do their passport, with the wrong photos, knowing well before they gave it, to get the photos with the right color background, but thought they could use another photo because it will "save" them a few Ringgit..... Seriously..... The time spent queuing then being asked how come the photo is not the correct one and being given that reason or "I forgot to bring a supporting document for the application......" Is not only frustrating for the counter staff who deals with this type of "stupidity"not only on a daily basis but also having to face rude and condescending attitude is enough even for me to give "black face" to anyone I would meet on a daily basis.
But I tell what is bad, is to stand in the queue behind these type of people who know they are "in the wrong" as such and listen to them giving their excuses and wasting everyone's time to insist that their application CAN be processed and to just accept what they are submitting. Then when it's your turn, of course you Kena the 'black face' at get go..... So you try to moderate the situation by being extra pleasant and winsome, human nature...... It does mollify the other person, so that by the end of your encounter you would have at least a "smile" when you say Terima Kasih and walk off......
 

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fearing the ridiculous jam, i didnt enter jb for quite awhile until 2days ago at around noon.
it was a sunday so i sort of expected that usual chronic bumper to bumper. it took me an hour
to cross but the return trip was a torment.. I came back from permas jaya, hit edl highway and
came to a one lane long Q, back to back up upto a km long from jb custom. 'and so i have to experience this hell like everybody else?' i thought to myself. No, i shall try another exit. i kept left turned left all the way to the coast and made a uturn. you know what? they have blocked the entrance to custom from the coastal side? how come? i think i didnt read it here. or did i miss it? can somebody tell me! anyway it took me 2hrs just to cross the bridge. i didnt reenter by edl but from town side. But least i could potong jalan there.

Ya, Bro, I used to 'potong jalan' here too, but since sometime early this year, they blocked this up, I also don't know why. And now there remains I believe two ways to jb custom, one from edl and the other from the townside. To me, the jam could be an excuse to impose high entry fees, but will the fees stop people from entering the country on either side? Really the solution is in getting faster immigration/customs/security clearance if the mass public transport system is not ready. There are benefits to the respective country on both sides for people to visit. Our two casinos with their integrated activities benefit Singapore, not to forget, Singaporeans are operating businesses and factories in JB and we go there for cheaper petrol and spending.....Any additional fees imposed by JB as a result of August increase will affect commuters like us, travellers and most importantly investors. No need to increase the threshold to RM 2 million...even restoring the RM500,000 threshold may not tempt foreigners to buy. And so I think the best is for KL to postpone their decision to a later date.
 

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Bro, to be fair, if one "talk down" to Any person ( not you per se), they are not going to smile or be helpful. It actually starts with "you"......"

whoa! wht makes you think i 'talk down ' to them? i can assure you, my default position when speaking to people is to be polite first. Anyway, i'm used to the sh** when doing things at govt offices in m'sia. to be fair, they seem to be making a genuine effort to be more 'customer oriented' these days.
 
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