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Chitchat Keling Mad Hatter To Fuck Anwar In The Ass Yet Again! Possible m&d-Only Jiuhu Gahmen Formed! No More Anwar, No More DAP!

Just an afterthought. Madhatter reminds me alot of the Emperor in Star Wars. Let Azmin betray Anwar and come out from a stronger position. What Azmin did must have been instigated by madhatter n in the last minute madhatter say no. Anwar looses his majority n the only one left standing is madhatter himself
 
Just an afterthought. Madhatter reminds me alot of the Emperor in Star Wars. Let Azmin betray Anwar and come out from a stronger position. What Azmin did must have been instigated by madhatter n in the last minute madhatter say no. Anwar looses his majority n the only one left standing is madhatter himself


Palpatine's flaw was to use his silly lightning powers. If he stuck to just using his telepathy skills, he could have strangled every Jedi to death easily.
 
Palpatine's flaw was to use his silly lightning powers. If he stuck to just using his telepathy skills, he could have strangled every Jedi to death easily.
Madhatter is doing that. Getting himself in as a compromised candidate bcos he disrupted Anwar position
 
Madhatter is doing that. Getting himself in as a compromised candidate bcos he disrupted Anwar position

PAP has the wisdom to build a political system where the electoral seat belongs to the party and not to the MP. Under the jiuhu system, the electoral seat belongs to the MP. This ensures political instability, especially for a coalition government with a weak majority. A few rogue MPs could be king makers, if the oppies persuade them to switch party allegiance. The jiuhu system also means party manifestos are meaningless, since voters are ultimately voting for individuals, not for the political party.
 
PAP has the wisdom to build a political system where the electoral seat belongs to the party and not to the MP. Under the jiuhu system, the electoral seat belongs to the MP. This ensures political instability, especially for a coalition government with a weak majority. A few rogue MPs could be king makers, if the oppies persuade them to switch party allegiance. The jiuhu system also means party manifestos are meaningless, since voters are ultimately voting for individuals, not for the political party.
I have to agree with u on this. In ang mor lands also got this sort of problems. However to be better for the people. I recommend once an mp quits the party. He looses the seat and a by election called within 3 months . This should be enshrined in the constitution so the people makes the choice. Not loose the seat n the constituency get eaten up like in Anson.

Also better to get rid of the Westminster system. The ppl should decide n not the party. Parliamentary democracy is no democracy at all.
 
PKR veep: Dr M planned unity govt all along, with an eye to axe Pakatan leaders
Friday, 28 Feb 2020 10:31 AM MYT
BY SOO WERN JUN
Datuk Dr Xavier Jayakumar speaks at a press conference in Putrajaya January 28, 2020. — Bernama pic
Datuk Dr Xavier Jayakumar speaks at a press conference in Putrajaya January 28, 2020. — Bernama pic
KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 28 — PKR vice-president Datuk Dr Xavier Jayakumar alleged that Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad had all along planned the formation of a unity government.
He claimed Dr Mahathir did nothing to stop the purported coup led by former PKR deputy president Datuk Seri Azmin Ali over the weekend and chose to stay at home instead.






“Looking back during the past few days, it is now quite clear there was a plan to form a unity government without PH,” he said in a statement today.
He recalled that last Friday (February 21) the PH presidential council meeting agreed to give Dr Mahathir the freedom to determine when he wants to step down as Prime Minister.

This was to save PH as the government was chosen by the people, he said.

“As tensions had risen during the meeting, it was Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim who calmed everyone downand told Dr Mahathir to decide himself when the appropriate date was to be.
“All satisfied, we came out of that meeting intact as PH.
“On Sunday (February 23), Datuk Seri Azmin Ali, Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin, Datuk Seri Ahmad Zahid Hamidi and Datuk Seri Hadi Awang executed the attempted coup, to form a Perikatan Nasional coalition.
“This was going on for the whole day with the events at Sheraton Hotel and various party meetings elsewhere and there was no attempt by Dr Mahathir to put a stop to this,” he said.
He added that Dr Mahathir had everyone’s support and hence he was appointed as the interim prime minister.
But instead of calling the elected representatives to resume administration, Xavier said Dr Mahathir seemed to have different ideas of forming a unity government with technocrats and also opted to clearly sideline PH leaders.
“To him, it seems there can be only one leader with full unchecked authority in making a swift decision with technocrats.
“No party involvement, no party leaders for checks and balances.
“On top of that, Dr Mahathir also refused to attend the PH council meeting and was adamant on his unity government proposal,” he said.
It was then at this juncture, Xavier said that the PH council made a decision to nominate Anwar as a candidate for the premiership.
“We at PH have had enough of the endless dirty politicking and shady maneuvers.
“The question is why can’t Dr Mahathir now hand over power to Anwar and retire peacefully?
“Why did he supposedly preempt the Yang di-Pertuan Agong over a special parliament sitting announcement?” he questioned.
He also claimed that Bersatu is in disarray and if this saga leads to a general election, the party could face a wipeout.
“All Dr Mahathir had to do was to sack five cabinet members, reappoint and move on.
“Why did he allow the collapse of a legitimately elected government and now say that he wants to save the country?” he asked.
He added that whether PH succeeds or fails, the people should be the ones who get to decide.
 
Mahathir Caused This Mess, He Must Leave Others To Fix It - COMMENT
  • 27 February 2020
Many believe the old man cunningly planned this from the start… if he had he ought to have had a better plan. Instead of running around like a headless chicken he would by now be presiding over a powerful government led by him.

Mahathir allowed this mess to develop around a myriad of overlapping plots as he gave ear to ‘Malay unity’ proposals that all fawningly suggested himself as the leading figure continuing to head the government in defiance of his commitment when running for office.

It plainly got to the old man’s head, frustrated by the demands of parliamentary democracy within a coalition government after years of previously ruling with the luxury of strongman status at the head of UMNO.

But then the rebels pushed matters into action, thanks to desperados who needed the power shift to happen, and he lost control. He realised he was handing the show back to Najib and put on the brakes. This was less of a cunning plan than age beginning to show.

He thought to repair the situation in a manner that flattered himself and gave him the total power to run Malaysia as he believes he knows best – the good old fashioned way (fake democracy and strongman rule).

After all, the national relief when he announced he wouldn’t immediately resign but return on an ‘interim’ basis gave him renewed strength – or so he thought. The ‘interim’ part of his proposals was soon abandoned as within just a day he astonished his long-suffering political allies by announcing that his continuing prime ministership would not represent a return to party based democracy, but over a ‘Unity Government’ appointed from all parties and made up of people directly owing allegiance only to him.

To rub in this dictatorial agenda, he told the leaders of the biggest parties they should not expect to be in that government, rather he as a minority party leader would choose a rag bag of cabinet colleagues, many of them the political enemies of his erstwhile allies in Pakatan Harapan.

The King Apparently Did Not Comply
Mahathir plainly thought he could get away with it, such was the national horror over the prospect of a collapse of government. However, when he arrived at the palace this morning to cement his planned intentions with an announcement from the King, Sarawak Report understands that he found others had different plans.

The King has been counting numbers. Sarawak Report among others is led to understand that the leader with the most numbers supporting him by far is Anwar Ibrahim. Therefore, as the constitution demands and the King was doubtless forced to explain, it is incumbent on the King to give Anwar Ibrahim the opportunity to form a new government and not the sometime resigning, sometime not resigning ‘interim’ old man.

One reason we know that this was the message Mahathir received is because he left the palace without being in a position to announce his Unity Government, which he had plainly planned to do. That alone could mean only one thing, which is that he had received the above message loud and clear from the monarch.

The confirmation of the King’s position is likely to come after he meets the Council of Rulers tomorrow and then it will most likely be up to Anwar Ibrahim to demonstrate in Parliament that he can move to command a majority and therefore succeed as 8th PM, as was promised by the winning PH coalition to the electorate before GE14.

The story will have moved on from Mahathir and would be unlikely to swing back his way.

This certainly explains the mad frenzy of activity by the old man this afternoon. His sudden and inappropriate announcement about what the King said on the King’s behalf gave a spin that suited him but ought surely to have annoyed the palace.

He was plainly seeking to imply that he would be the one given the opportunity to form his proposed unity government when the real announcement is made, rather than the man who has the support of most MPs.

The next hours were then spent spewing out extraordinary promises and announcements about spending billions – from a man who has yet to re-form a government.

Hard on the heels of these statements the old man this evening sallied forth again and astonished everyone with a new threat that he will back Bersatu boss Muhyiddin to be prime minister instead of Anwar (as promised yet again just Friday if people can remember that far) unless PH obey him like good children and join his unity government.

Unfortunately till recently a very sick man, Muhyiddin is possibly the only person in parliament with a shorter remaining life expectancy than Mahathir himself.

This is dysfunctional behaviour and sadly an icon of Malaysia seems to have all but lost the plot. Few political careers end in anything but tears and despite all efforts to give Mahathir the dignity he deserves it seems the same must now be said for this one.

Malaysians deserve genuine stability, the end to permanent transition, the return of parliamentary democracy and the fulfilment of promises made at the election. Mahathir is no longer in a position to deliver.

It is time to pass on the baton.
 
Bersatu nominates Muhyiddin Yassin as Malaysian prime minister candidate
File photo of Muhyiddin Yassin. (Photo: Justin Ong)
By Amir Yusof@AmirYusofCNA
28 Feb 2020 04:52PM(Updated: 28 Feb 2020 05:09PM)
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KUALA LUMPUR: Parti Pribumi Bersatu Malaysia (Bersatu) has nominated party president Muhyiddin Yassin to be the next prime minister.
In a brief press statement on Friday (Feb 28) afternoon, Bersatu secretary-general Marzuki Yahya said: "After a meeting among members of parliament of Bersatu, it has been decided to nominate Mr Muhyiddin Mohd Yassin, Bersatu president and Pagoh MP, to the king to be Malaysia's eighth prime minister."

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He added that the meeting was attended by 36 Bersatu MPs.
Bersatu currently holds 26 seats in the parliament. It is believed there are 10 MPs from Mr Azmin Ali's independent bloc who are considering working with Bersatu.
READ: Malaysian king confirms no special parliament session, will summon party leaders to present candidates for PM post
Bersatu along with Mr Azmin-led faction from Parti Keadilan Rakyat had earlier pledged their support for interim prime minister Mahathir Mohamad to continue serving as the prime minister.

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Last Sunday, Mr Azmin is said to have launched a bid with several ruling coalition lawmakers to join opposition groups in order to form a new coalition excluding Mr Anwar Ibrahim, the prime minister-in-waiting.
This intensified the speculation that Bersatu as well as Mr Azmin’s supporters, were leaving Pakatan Harapan (PH) and looking to form a new ruling coalition.
On Monday, Dr Mahathir submitted his resignation to the palace.
Although the king accepted the resignation, he immediately appointed Dr Mahathir as the interim prime minister.
On the same day, Dr Mahathir is said to have informed Mr Anwar and Democratic Action Party (DAP) secretary-general Lim Guan Eng that he was not involved with attempts to form a new coalition.
Shortly after, Bersatu also announced that it has quit PH, while Mr Azmin and 10 other lawmakers declared their departure from PKR. This effectively meant that PH would no longer have a majority in the 222-seat parliament.
The same night, Mr Azmin’s bloc had released a statement saying that they are not traitors. They said the intention was to ensure Dr Mahathir will be allowed to serve his full term.
Source: CNA/am
 
Malaysian king confirms no special parliament sitting, will ask party leaders to present PM candidates
The newly installed 16th King of Malaysia at the National Palace in Kuala Lumpur, Jan 31. (Photo: AFP/Department of Information)
By D Kanyakumari
28 Feb 2020 04:44PM(Updated: 28 Feb 2020 04:50PM)
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KUALA LUMPUR: The Malaysian King has confirmed that there will be no special parliamentary sitting next Monday (Mar 2), adding that party leaders would be asked to present their candidates for the next prime minister.
In a statement released on Friday, Comptroller of the Royal Family and Household Ahmad Fadil Shamsuddin said King Abdullah Ri’ayatuddin Al-Mustafa Billah Shah agreed with the decision of Parliament Speaker Mohamad Ariff Md Yusof on rejecting Dr Mahathir Mohamad’s call for a special parliamentary session.

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“The palace will be in touch with leaders of all political parties that have representatives in the parliament in order to grant them an opportunity to present a candidate to be nominated as the next prime minister,” he said.
The palace’s statement came following the conclusion of a two-day consultation with all members of parliament in the country, after Dr Mahathir resigned as the prime minister.
However, the king noted that he could not identify a parliamentarian who commands the majority of the House, the statement said.

Mahathir Mohamad may emerge even stronger from the latest round of Malaysian political machinations AFP/Mohd RASFAN


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In a press conference on Thursday, Dr Mahathir, as interim prime minister, said a special sitting would be held on Monday for the MPs to decide on the prime minister post.
However, the parliament speaker said earlier on Friday that such a sitting can only be called after a royal decree was issued.
“The king will continue to work towards finding a solution in line with the Federal Constitution for the sake of the people and the country that we all love,” Mr Ahmad Fadil said.
Separately, Parti Pribumi Bersatu Malaysia issued a statement on Friday afternoon voicing its support for Mr Muhyiddin Yassin to be the next prime minister.
Source: CNA/aw
 
Uncertainty grows in Malaysia as king rejects Mahathir's plan
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Country's monarch says no special session on Monday as Mahathir's own party picks another nominee as prime minister.
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Malaysia's Parliament will not hold a special session on Monday to decide the next prime minister, the country's monarch announced, a day after interim Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said the legislative body would do so.
The king made the declaration on Friday, as Mahathir's own party, Parti Pribumi Bersatu Malaysia, made a surpise announcement that it has nominated party president, Muhyiddin Yassin, as its candidate for prime minister.
With the latest development on Friday, it is now unclear what role the 94-year-old Mahathir would play as chairman of the party, also known as Bersatu. Earlier, the party had said that it wants Mahathir to continue as prime minister.
On Thursday, Mahathir had announced that there will be a special session of parliament on March 2 to select the new prime minister.
He also said that if there is enough support for him, he will stay on as prime minister.
But the announcement on Thursday angered his former coalition allies, led by Anwar Ibrahim, who said it was inappropriate for him to pre-empt a decision by the king, whose powers would be challenged by a vote in parliament. The coalition had earlier nominated Anwar as prime minister.
On Friday, the parliament speaker, Mohamad Ariff Md Yusof, also contradicted Mahathir, saying that a special session can only be declared through an official decree by the king.
Political chaos after Malaysia’s Mahathir resigns
It is the latest twist in an ongoing political struggle that has captivated the country of 32 million people since last Sunday.
A failed bid by Mahathir's supporters to form a new government without his designated successor, Anwar, and Mahathir's shock resignation on Monday broke apart the ruling alliance less than two years after it defeated the corruption-tainted Barisan Nasional coalition that had led the country for 61 years.
The infighting renewed a political feud between Mahathir and Anwar that stretches back more than 20 years.
Anwar was Mahathir's deputy in the 1990s during Mahathir's first stint as prime minister, but he was sacked following a power struggle and later jailed on sodomy and corruption charges that he said were trumped up. Anwar led a reform movement that helped build a fledgeling opposition but was jailed a second time for sodomy in 2014 in a move he said was aimed at killing his political career.
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Malaysia's Pakatan Harapan coalition backs Anwar as PM
Mahathir, who retired in 2003 after 22 years in power, made a comeback in 2016, spurred by anger over a significant corruption scandal involving a state investment fund.
Mahathir and Anwar reconciled and forged an alliance that won the 2018 election that ushered in the first change of government since independence in 1957.
Before the elections, the two leaders agreed to share the term as prime minister, with Mahathir taking the post for the first two years.
But their relationship remained uneasy as Mahathir refused to set a timeframe to hand over power to Anwar.
Mahathir, the world's oldest leader at 94, said on Wednesday he wanted to form a nonpartisan government if chosen as premier for a third time. He said he had quit to show he was not power-crazy, and because he did not want to work with the former corrupt government that he overthrew in 2018 polls.
But his unity government plan was rejected by Anwar's camp and other opposition parties, which said it would only create a "Mahathir government" that was not accountable to the people and was unsustainable.
Anwar said legislators from the three remaining parties in his alliance had nominated him to be prime minister when meeting the king after Mahathir rejected their offer to restore their former government. Anwar's camp controls 92 seats of the 222-seat parliament, 20 seats short of a simple majority.
SOURCE: News agencies
 
Anwar confident can form govt with support from disgruntled MPS from ‘other side’ | Malay Mail
PKR president Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim is seen leaving the Eastin Hotel February 28, 2020. — Picture by Ahmad Zamzahuri
PKR president Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim is seen leaving the Eastin Hotel February 28, 2020. — Picture by Ahmad Zamzahuri
PETALING JAYA, Feb 28 — PKR president Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim remained confident that Pakatan Harapan (PH) has enough numbers to form a government.
He said he has the numbers with support from disgruntled members of the Dewan Rakyat on the “other side”.
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Anwar added that all the MPs pledging their support for him have done so individually.
“I know for a fact that some of the MPs on the ‘other side’ are unhappy that their party leaders have stolen their voice.
“Pakatan Harapan has the numbers. Let’s see out this democratic process. InsyaAllah,” he posted on his official Twitter account.
Earlier today in a statement issued to the media, the PH Presidential Council insisted that Anwar has the majority support.
“The Presidential Council believes that Anwar Ibrahim should be given the opportunity to have an audience with the Agong to prove that he has the confidence from the majority of MPs,” read the statement.
The statement comes in the midst of the political impasse on the appointment of the next prime minister.
Earlier, Istana Negara said it would consult the party leaders again after the Agong confirmed that interview sessions with MPs this week failed to reveal which political bloc had the majority support.
Meanwhile, Parti Pribumi Bersatu Malaysia (PPBM) had announced that it is nominating party president Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin as the next prime minister of Malaysia.
PPBM secretary-general Datuk Marzuki Yahya said this was decided at a meeting that was attended by 36 PPBM MPs or members of the Dewan Rakyat.
Bersatu only had 26 MPs before this, but its statement said that 36 of the party’s MPs were present at the meeting.
However, Datuk Kadir Jasin in a statement, later on, said the Bersatu supreme council had never agreed to nominate Muhyiddin as prime minister and is still firmly behind Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad.
Kadir, also a member of the council, said Muhyiddin’s nomination by Bersatu’s 25 MPs was done without the consent of the party’s top leadership.
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Dr M: Anwar was used as ‘excuse’ to engineer crisis but also contributed to it | Malay Mail
Former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir leaves the Perdana Leadership Foundation after meeting with Armada Youth in Putrajaya March 1, 2020. — Picture by Shafwan Zaidon
Former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir leaves the Perdana Leadership Foundation after meeting with Armada Youth in Putrajaya March 1, 2020. — Picture by Shafwan Zaidon
PUTRAJAYA, March 1 — Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad absolved Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim today of blame in triggering the political crisis that brought down the Pakatan Harapan government.
He said this in a closed-door meeting, but an attendee had broadcast parts of the event live on Facebook.
At the meeting, Dr Mahathir said he had been informed that Anwar would demand to be made deputy prime minister at the PH presidential council meeting on February 21.
When this did not occur, however, he alleged that Bersatu president Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin needed a crisis to occur so that he could explore cooperation with other parties.
“When he (Muhyiddin) took our party out of Bersatu, that was when the crisis happened,” Dr Mahathir said.
However, he also said Anwar’s eagerness to become prime minister contributed to the crisis then.
After Dr Mahathir resigned unexpectedly as PM, PH had continued backing him before suddenly switching to Anwar instead.
The change had prevented him from showing the Yang di-Pertuan Agong he had the clear support of the majority in Parliament.
“Anwar is a bit obsessed about becoming prime minister. But he couldn’t have done it because he didn’t have the support,” the former PM continued.
“If the people had wanted me to stay as PM, I would have. I feel I would have gotten 60 more votes to add to the 90-odd votes I already had. But because Anwar insisted on being named the candidate for PM despite knowing he won’t win, it spoiled things.”
Dr Mahathir’s candid account of events has given Malaysia some insight into the crisis that brought down his administration.
He resigned as PM two days after the aforementioned PH meeting, prompting suspicions that he was making a power grab to prevent Anwar’s ascension.
The suspicion intensified when Dr Mahathir began testing the waters for a non-partisan government that would have encompassed parties from the entire political spectrum.
After a week of political intrigue, however, Muhyiddin emerged the unexpected front-runner to be PM and was eventually sworn in this morning.
Dr Mahathir and PH continue to contest the level of Muhyiddin’s support among federal lawmakers and are planning to test this when Parliament resumes.
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The Usurper Dodges On The Numbers Behind His UMNO/PAS Coalition
The Usurper Dodges On The Numbers Behind His UMNO/PAS Coalition

  • 1 March 2020
The bogus ‘PM8′ is refusing to show his numbers or to test them by calling parliament. Unlike Dr Mahathir and his allies, who published their names and numbers yesterday to prove their majority, this usurper has ducked and dived.
It comes as no surprise, because this UMNO/PAS coalition is a rank minority government that wouldn’t last a second on the floor of parliament.
At best they can boast 80 MPs out of the 112 they need for a bare majority. Apart from zig zagging UMNO frogs, the PKR deserters Azmin Ali and Zuraida and the likes of Kanga Kittingan there are few rebels left from the prior government to build their ranks.
Yet the Agong has doubled down behind this Imposter PM choice. His move to appoint Muhyiddin is clearly supported by the Sultan of Johor, for whom Muhyiddin worked under UMNO for very many years.
Maybe he has rightly judged that such an action would unite the majority coalition that has squabbled of late, thus giving the plotters their chance.
The effect of appointing an UMNO/PAS minority government has been the shock all those infighters needed to pull back together in their duty to the public. It is possible this has been behind his wise decision.
However, some supporting the royal choice may also consider they are ‘saving’ many things linked to tradition and race by giving their old allies from UMNO (including several world-class crooks) this prime chance to dig in and buy support.
Incidentally, of course, they are also working to save a form of government that had increasingly permitted them to act both as royals and as the most powerful businessmen in their states, able to deal in public lands and contracts with all the advantages of their position.
Back in government the UMNO of Najib and Zahid will make sure that corrupted system continues and PAS will sanctify it.
Bogus PM8 has a big problem called Parliament
However, right at this moment the triumphant plotters have a problem and it is called parliamentary democracy, which Malaysians know they would much rather do without.
All Malaysia has heard how Najib wailed on the phone to the Sheikh Mohammed of Abu Dhabi that his problem was democracy – he had been caught out stealing billions and democracy was making it hard to hide. Wealthy warlords like himself, having enriched themselves by abusing public office, now long to be rid of the institutions they abused.
With the numbers in so glaringly in dispute the Agong ought to allow the immediate recall of parliament. Far from building his support the usurper Muhyiddin has seen duped PH followers move to desert him in the past hours not flock to be ‘on the winning side’.
The blatant plan behind this stage of the coup is for the minority rebels, thus backed by supposed impartial guardians of the constitution, to use all their money and powers of persuasion to pick off the MPs from the majority coalition and build the numbers they still don’t have.
Before GE13 Najib had imported a billion dollars of stolen money from 1MDB to have to hand for just this contingency had UMNO needed ‘frogs’. He and his corrupted allies presently facing trial have had two years to organise another war chest. It will have been an essential part of this daring and outrageous (but entirely characteristic) plan to seize back power.
By refusing an emergency sitting they have just one week to try to deploy their resources to turn MPs, whose constituents might assassinate them for such betrayal. It is a major challenge. Any MP who moves to the minority government now will be an open book to their electorate.
So, already on day one, the ‘postponement’ of Parliament is being mooted by client media of yore. The New Straits Times has issued a story suggesting that even the scheduled March 9th sitting may be ‘delayed’.
The delay of Parliament is the exact opposite of what this situation demands in democratic terms. But it is desperately needed by the Bogus PM who cannot command the numbers in the house.
The longer the Agong and his fellow sultans (who were unconstitutionally brought in over the weekend to discuss the situation and join forces on his decision) stand by and allow this trampling of the expressed will of the electorate the more the coup will become exposed.
Najib has boasted that his fallback scenario is an illegal election that UMNO/PAS plan to fight on racial lines. They should not take the mood of people treated in this way for granted.
Malaysians ought not to be surprised if ultimately the usurpers around ‘PM8′ seek to postpone parliament permanently instead.
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From Parliamentary Democracy To Failed State?
From Parliamentary Democracy To Failed State?

  • 29 February 2020
Just a week ago Malaysia could hold its head up high in the community of nations as a progressing state – a place to do business after having plummeted down the corruption tables and press freedom indexes over recent years.
Thanks to a peaceful transition of power through general elections a corrupt government had been replaced by a reforming coalition with an agenda for law and order.
Then a coup attempt took place. It has emerged that a complex web of plotting, that was none too surprising on the part of establishment kleptocrats facing now trial, had successfully exploited the usual tensions within party politics to break away an ambitious duo of politicians to disrupt the ruling coalition and try to seize back power.
Now, thanks to the playing out of those events the Sultan a week later finds himself inviting a rebel, who is not even the legitimate leader of his own party, to form a government out of a raft of minority parties whose leading lights include some of the most famously disreputable alleged criminals in the world and some of the most backward and extreme religious bigots in Asia.
The first action of this proposed government is likely to be the appointment of a new Attorney General who will bring to a crashing halt a series of grand kleptocracy trials, which for the past two years have been conducted with scrupulous due process by the now rejected PH coalition government.
News bulletins across the world will cover how the crooks of 1MDB have been allowed off the hook, thanks to a blatant Malaysian government coup apparently supported by the establishment.
The Sultan must surely have paused to consider the consequences of endorsing such an outcome. The gravity of such lack of credibility has been emphasised by the awful reality that has emerged over the past hours over the lack of genuine legitimacy on the part of his choice of designated PM8, a politician who simply does not command the majority backing needed to form a government.
The palace had spent the previous days engaged in counting MPs’ support amidst a series of changing allegiances as the coup played out. Yet, having declared on Friday that no side had the numbers, the Sultan on Saturday radically revised that assessment in favour of the rebel Muhyiddin, even as his former colleagues buried their differences and restored their ruling coalition.
That restored coalition of the largest parties DOES now have a majority of MPs and has gone on to demonstrate that fact. However, in the meantime the Sultan had seemingly inexplicably selected Muhyiddin just at the very moment when all hope of him raising his numbers above those from the day before evaporated.
In the following hours it became clear that a terrible deception must have taken place as Muhyiddin’s obvious shortfall in MPs were tallied up. The present layout of parties means this sick and obvious front-man in the job (Muhyiddin is in remission after treatment for advanced pancreatic cancer) can barely command the support of more than 80 MPs (at best). By contrast, the revived PH coalition under current Prime Minister Mahathir has at least 113 MPs presently pledged to him.
Rubbing it in, Mahathir yesterday showed the full list of those MPs and demanded a review of the palace’s choice of his unconvincing rival. The move further exposed Muhyiddin who has refused to show his own list of followers.
A genuine majority needs 112 and throughout the day concern had grown that Muhyiddin, who could not produce anything like the required numbers on Friday, had somehow produced a deceit on Saturday.
It is the constitutional obligation of the King to offer any party that demonstrates it has the support of the majority of elected MPs the chance to from a government. However, it appears the Agong has invited the wrong party to do so, one that is way off the required numbers.
How will that look to the wider world?
Is there a hope on the part of the ‘Coup Coalition’ of minority parties that with the chance now offered to form a government they will be able to beg, bribe and steal MPs to pack their benches?
You bet there is, but will they succeed? If they do not the former prime minister Najib Razak (who is seeking by hook or crook to get off scores of charges for outrageous theft) is crowing publicly on Facebook that the people behind Muhyiddin plan to use his dubiously acquired PM8 position to seek to dissolve Parliament and call an election.
Clearly, they prefer this opportunity to export popular anger and chaos in untimely elections rather than offer the majority a chance to take back control of government. For them this coup is about over-turning the disastrous outcome of GE14 for themselves.
Could the Sultan countenance such abuses of his own duty to offer the majority its right to form a government? What about the right of the electorate to the government of their choice? And how would it look to the outside world were such an agenda driven by famous criminals to proceed?
In the run up to this crisis there has been another way that wealthy disruptors have sought to destabilise a government that was bringing criminal charges against so many of them.
Toxic nationalism spread through social media has been the shock global development of the past through years and this tool has been blatantly employed for months in Malaysia, in order to build fear and stoke suspicion against the reforming government. Against this backdrop an outraged electorate is beginning to become vocal against what they rightly see as a stolen election.
The Sultan, therefore, not only has to worry about an embarrassing and unstable proposed minority government but also the consequences amongst an angry and cheated populace, already made unstable thanks to the sowing of discord.
With such issues at stake he needs to be seen by all Malaysians to have made the right and fair decisions in response to this crisis, according to the constitution and the spirit of the law, over the coming hours and days. The consequences of failing to do so may be grave indeed on so many fronts.
Everyone wishes him well and much wisdom in that task.
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From Parliamentary Democracy To Failed State?
From Parliamentary Democracy To Failed State?

  • 29 February 2020
Just a week ago Malaysia could hold its head up high in the community of nations as a progressing state – a place to do business after having plummeted down the corruption tables and press freedom indexes over recent years.
Thanks to a peaceful transition of power through general elections a corrupt government had been replaced by a reforming coalition with an agenda for law and order.
Then a coup attempt took place. It has emerged that a complex web of plotting, that was none too surprising on the part of establishment kleptocrats facing now trial, had successfully exploited the usual tensions within party politics to break away an ambitious duo of politicians to disrupt the ruling coalition and try to seize back power.
Now, thanks to the playing out of those events the Sultan a week later finds himself inviting a rebel, who is not even the legitimate leader of his own party, to form a government out of a raft of minority parties whose leading lights include some of the most famously disreputable alleged criminals in the world and some of the most backward and extreme religious bigots in Asia.
The first action of this proposed government is likely to be the appointment of a new Attorney General who will bring to a crashing halt a series of grand kleptocracy trials, which for the past two years have been conducted with scrupulous due process by the now rejected PH coalition government.
News bulletins across the world will cover how the crooks of 1MDB have been allowed off the hook, thanks to a blatant Malaysian government coup apparently supported by the establishment.
The Sultan must surely have paused to consider the consequences of endorsing such an outcome. The gravity of such lack of credibility has been emphasised by the awful reality that has emerged over the past hours over the lack of genuine legitimacy on the part of his choice of designated PM8, a politician who simply does not command the majority backing needed to form a government.
The palace had spent the previous days engaged in counting MPs’ support amidst a series of changing allegiances as the coup played out. Yet, having declared on Friday that no side had the numbers, the Sultan on Saturday radically revised that assessment in favour of the rebel Muhyiddin, even as his former colleagues buried their differences and restored their ruling coalition.
That restored coalition of the largest parties DOES now have a majority of MPs and has gone on to demonstrate that fact. However, in the meantime the Sultan had seemingly inexplicably selected Muhyiddin just at the very moment when all hope of him raising his numbers above those from the day before evaporated.
In the following hours it became clear that a terrible deception must have taken place as Muhyiddin’s obvious shortfall in MPs were tallied up. The present layout of parties means this sick and obvious front-man in the job (Muhyiddin is in remission after treatment for advanced pancreatic cancer) can barely command the support of more than 80 MPs (at best). By contrast, the revived PH coalition under current Prime Minister Mahathir has at least 113 MPs presently pledged to him.
Rubbing it in, Mahathir yesterday showed the full list of those MPs and demanded a review of the palace’s choice of his unconvincing rival. The move further exposed Muhyiddin who has refused to show his own list of followers.
A genuine majority needs 112 and throughout the day concern had grown that Muhyiddin, who could not produce anything like the required numbers on Friday, had somehow produced a deceit on Saturday.
It is the constitutional obligation of the King to offer any party that demonstrates it has the support of the majority of elected MPs the chance to from a government. However, it appears the Agong has invited the wrong party to do so, one that is way off the required numbers.
How will that look to the wider world?
Is there a hope on the part of the ‘Coup Coalition’ of minority parties that with the chance now offered to form a government they will be able to beg, bribe and steal MPs to pack their benches?
You bet there is, but will they succeed? If they do not the former prime minister Najib Razak (who is seeking by hook or crook to get off scores of charges for outrageous theft) is crowing publicly on Facebook that the people behind Muhyiddin plan to use his dubiously acquired PM8 position to seek to dissolve Parliament and call an election.
Clearly, they prefer this opportunity to export popular anger and chaos in untimely elections rather than offer the majority a chance to take back control of government. For them this coup is about over-turning the disastrous outcome of GE14 for themselves.
Could the Sultan countenance such abuses of his own duty to offer the majority its right to form a government? What about the right of the electorate to the government of their choice? And how would it look to the outside world were such an agenda driven by famous criminals to proceed?
In the run up to this crisis there has been another way that wealthy disruptors have sought to destabilise a government that was bringing criminal charges against so many of them.
Toxic nationalism spread through social media has been the shock global development of the past through years and this tool has been blatantly employed for months in Malaysia, in order to build fear and stoke suspicion against the reforming government. Against this backdrop an outraged electorate is beginning to become vocal against what they rightly see as a stolen election.
The Sultan, therefore, not only has to worry about an embarrassing and unstable proposed minority government but also the consequences amongst an angry and cheated populace, already made unstable thanks to the sowing of discord.
With such issues at stake he needs to be seen by all Malaysians to have made the right and fair decisions in response to this crisis, according to the constitution and the spirit of the law, over the coming hours and days. The consequences of failing to do so may be grave indeed on so many fronts.
Everyone wishes him well and much wisdom in that task.
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What democracy is jiuhu? The only candidates that are allowed to be PM must only be from the moslem bumi sector. If that happened anywhere else where moslems are banned from leading the country at state or federal level, moslems would be screaming islamophobia and racism.
 
What democracy is jiuhu? The only candidates that are allowed to be PM must only be from the moslem bumi sector. If that happened anywhere else where moslems are banned from leading the country at state or federal level, moslems would be screaming islamophobia and racism.
Anyone can be a PM in jiu hu.but only moslems can be the chief minister of seversl states as chief ministers need to advise sultan on religious issues.
 
PAP has the wisdom to build a political system where the electoral seat belongs to the party and not to the MP. Under the jiuhu system, the electoral seat belongs to the MP. This ensures political instability, especially for a coalition government with a weak majority. A few rogue MPs could be king makers, if the oppies persuade them to switch party allegiance. The jiuhu system also means party manifestos are meaningless, since voters are ultimately voting for individuals, not for the political party.

the MP is more important than the political party under the "first past the post" electoral system everywhere., the voters should first consider the MP then the party. if an electoral system which the electoral seat belongs to the party is preferred, then the electoral system should be changed to proportional representation party list, voters simply vote for the party, the MPs are secondary.
 
one side might have the majority at the next parliament sitting, and lose the majority at the next next sitting. politics are really shit over there now.
 
Ex-PMO officer breaks down the ‘Sheraton Move’ | Malay Mail
Former Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohammad speaks during press conference in Yayasan Al-Bukhary, Kuala Lumpur March 1, 2020. — Picture by Miera Zulyana
Former Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohammad speaks during press conference in Yayasan Al-Bukhary, Kuala Lumpur March 1, 2020. — Picture by Miera Zulyana
KUALA LUMPUR, March 2 — A former officer in the Prime Minister’s Office has provided his version of events that led to Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad’s resignation and the collapse of the Pakatan Harapan government.
On Facebook, Adam Mukhriz Mohd Muhayeddin said the plot began unfolding in earnest on the fateful Sunday of February 23, after what appeared to be an uneventful PH presidential council meeting the Friday before.
“Azmin’s ‘Cartel’ met at Sheraton while Bersatu held a supreme council meeting. In that meeting, Tun refused to accept Umno (en bloc) as a component. Tun did not want Zahid, Azeez all entering.
“Are you crazy? We fought them tirelessly. Some are bound for jail and you want to accept them back and take over the government? On principle, Tun rejected this. Taking some MPs is fine, but not the whole party,” he wrote.
Some in the Bersatu supreme council backed Dr Mahathir’s position and he told the rest not to push him to abandon his principles, Adam said when singling out the former PM’s political secretary Zahid Mat Arip as the one who pressed Dr Mahathir the hardest.
Dr Mahathir previously disclosed that it was his political secretary who led him to believe that Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim would demand to be the deputy prime minister, lighting the fuse to the entire debacle.
When Dr Mahathir remained unconvinced, Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin went to the former PM’s home with Umno president Datuk Seri Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, PAS president Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang, GSP chairman Datuk Patinggi Abang Abdul Rahman Johari Openg, and former PKR deputy president Datuk Seri Azmin Ali, among others, to make their case.
Adam asserted that Ahmad Zahid also made demands of Dr Mahathir, including for a senior Cabinet role and his whole party to be accepted instead of piecemeal. He also demanded Dr Mahathir decide there and then.
“That night, the Sheraton Move took place. [Datuk Seri Tengku Adnan Mansor] came as though he were a minister and the crowds parted, all those gathered that night were fantasising of picking this ministry or that,” Adam wrote.
From there, matters devolved rapidly. On Monday, PH leaders rushed to meet Dr Mahathir at his office but he had not gone in as he was at home ruminating. When they finally found him, they were all certain Dr Mahathir was the villain of the episode, Adam said.
While they were later convinced otherwise, it was too late as Dr Mahathir already tendered his resignation as the prime minister and this was accepted by the Yang di-Pertuan Agong.
Adam went on to assert that Dr Mahathir resigned as the PM because he did not want to lead the coalition that later became Perikatan Nasional, which he would have if the PH administration collapsed as it eventually did.
He also asserted that Dr Mahathir could not attend the PH presidential council meeting that night as he had no standing to do so with Bersatu already out of the coalition.
“For PH, they might have thought Tun was insincere for not going. So they nominated Anwar as PM,” he continued.
That set in motion events that ultimately prevented Dr Mahathir from showing his majority support to the Agong as he could no longer count PH’s 92 lawmakers in his camp.
He also tried to convene a special parliamentary sitting to resolve the impasse today but the Speaker refused, Adam added.
The rest of his account is known as these played out in public view, culminating in Muhyddin being sworn in as the eighth prime minister yesterday.
“The saddest part is Tun M losing the faith of the people including the MPs he thought were his friends. That is why he said he was betrayed. Yes. The worst betrayal,” he wrote.
The details of Adam’s version dovetails with what Dr Mahathir and PH leaders have said in public but were interpreted differently at the time due to the lack of this added context.
Dr Mahathir revealed the crux of this during his final press conference as the interim prime minister last Thursday, after announcing the 2020 Economic Stimulus Package.
After a week of uncertainty and political intrigue, Muhyiddin emerged as the unexpected victor in what was initially thought to be a power struggle between Dr Mahathir and PKR president Anwar.
Muhyiddin was sworn in as the eighth prime minister of Malaysia yesterday but his position is not yet secure. PH is planning to test his level of support via a motion of no-confidence at the earliest opportunity in Parliament.
Allegiances also continue to shift as some of the lawmakers who declared for Muhyiddin and Dr Mahathir continue to alter their positions, making it difficult to conclusively determine who has the support they claim short of an open vote.
 
Explainer: What are the possible scenarios of a no-confidence motion in Malaysian parliament?
File photo of a Parliament House session in Kuala Lumpur. (Photo: Fandy Azlan/Department of Information/AFP)Bookmark
KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia has been rocked by political upheaval over the last week, with the shock resignation of Dr Mahathir Mohamad, the collapse of Pakatan Harapan (PH) and Mr Muhyiddin Yassin being sworn in as the country’s eighth prime minister.
A palace statement said the king had found that Mr Muhyiddin likely commanded the support of the majority of the Members of Parliament (MPs).
This, however, is disputed by Dr Mahathir, who claims that he commands a majority. PH is said to be considering a no-confidence motion in parliament to resolve the issue.
READ: Pakatan Harapan declares 'full support' for Mahathir, who says he has the numbers to be Malaysian PM
Here’s what could happen if a motion is tabled:
PARLIAMENT NEEDS TO SIT FOR NO-CONFIDENCE MOTION TO HAPPEN
To table a no-confidence motion, it is necessary to have a sitting parliament.
It is also up to the Leader of the House (meaning the prime minister), to decide if an emergency session is necessary, Mr Ooi Heng, a parliamentary researcher and the executive director of think tank Political Studies for Change (KPRU) told CNA.
“He will then instruct the speaker to summon all the MPs, both government and opposition to attend the session,” he explained.
The next sitting is scheduled for Mar 9. However, there are indications that Speaker Mohamad Ariff Md Yusof could postpone the session.
It is within this context that Dr Mahathir has called for an early parliamentary sitting.
On Sunday (Mar 1), he said: “The government can delay for as long as it likes. But if the delay is very long, then the prime minister is not endorsed by the MPs.”
If the parliament is not allowed to sit, the MPs cannot express officially whether they support Mr Muhyiddin, said the former prime minister.
Mr Lim Wei Jiet, a lawyer and Deputy Chair of the Malaysian Bar Council’s Constitutional Law Committee noted that the no-confidence vote was a Westminster parliamentary convention from which Malaysia’s parliament is modelled after.
It was also possible, said Mr Lim, that the speaker might be replaced, through a parliamentary resolution.
“They (the new government) would want to establish control over parliament proceedings,” Mr Lim said.
Mr Muhyiddin is backed by his Parti Pribumi Bersatu Malaysia, Barisan Nasional, Parti Islam Se-Malaysia and a group of MPs led by Mr Azmin Ali, as well as others.
READ: So near yet so far for Malaysia's Anwar
HAS THERE BEEN A NO-CONFIDENCE VOTE BEFORE?
Mr Ooi noted that there is no precedence for a no-confidence motion being put to debate and voted upon.
According to Malaysian media reports, the closest that the parliament got to a no-confidence vote was back in October 2015.
Mr Hee Loy Sian, then a Parti Keadilan Rakyat MP, had filed a private motion against former prime minister Najib Razak. The motion was accepted and listed as the third last item out of 28 motions.
Dr Wan Azizah Wan Ismail, the opposition leader at that time, later resubmitted another no-confidence motion against Najib on behalf of the entire opposition coalition. The motion was also accepted and listed, but not heard by the House.
In September that year, then speaker Pandikar Amin claimed that there is no provision in the Parliament's Standing Order which allows a MP to table a motion of no-confidence.
This was disputed by Dr Mahathir in his personal blog. He accused Mr Pandikar of ignoring the federal constitution and parliamentary process.
Citing Article 43(4) of the Constitution, Dr Mahathir said at that time if the sitting prime minister ceases to command the confidence of the majority of parliamentarians, the prime minister would have to tender the resignation of the Cabinet.
Mr Ooi explained: “For an opposition MP to file a motion of no-confidence against the incumbent prime minister, he or she has to submit the motion with 14 days’ notice to parliament. If the motion is accepted, it will be entered into the House’s Order of Business.”
“But as this is a private motion, government business will take precedence,” he added.
POSSIBLE SCENARIOS
If the speaker chooses to deal with the private motion before government business, Mr Ooi said there are three possible scenarios.
If there are more than 111 MPs (out of the total of 222) who vote in favour of the no-confidence motion, the prime minister has two options.
Firstly, the prime minister can resign and the king could appoint a new prime minister.
Secondly, the prime minister can request for the king to dissolve parliament, paving the way for a general election, said Mr Ooi.
 
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