John Tan speaks his mind

[chinkangkor]

You refuse to face the fact that your "facts" did not prevent even hairdo don't-talk-cock Ling from winning.

That is what Chee and his activists are trying to do, to make the political field more level for all political parties.

 

[chinkangkor]

who is talking abt bad ecomony?

i m talking u not understanding the need of the people, the need of the voters and come up with excues to explain why ur party of choice aint been supported.

ur party of choice do not address the needs of the ecomony, ur party of choice do not address the need of a better education so that our children would have a more secured future. heck, i m beginning to wonder if ur party of choice really care abt singaporeans in general and yet seem only to care abt their own chnaqces and righst to express themselves when empty words do not put food on the table.

Different political parties have different objectives and priorities. What is feasible to SDP may not be practical to WP and vice versa.

 

[scroobal]

For example, Chia Li Tik as a lawyer, dares to represent and join SDP. The Law Society president dared not even comment on political issues. Both are lawyers but both react differently.

He also dared and joined the YPAP and WP. What has he or the president got to do with voters being a afraid.

The law society president was answering to the quesation of legal reprsentation. He clarified that SDP and Chia were seeking free legal representation which they conveniently left out and gave the impression that no lawyer would act for them even when paid. This charade was also done in this forum.

Nobody likes to be used for other people's agenda. There is no love lost between the law society and the Govt.

Looks like you are confused and unable to understand the issues.

Just in case you are not aware, Chia Ti Lik, Yaw etc joined the YPAP long after the PAP was persecuting JBJ, the opposition, detaining people and gerrymandering the whole country and nothings has changed. You are heroworshipping the wrong folks.

 

[leetahbar]

He also dared and joined the YPAP and WP. What has he or the president got to do with voters being a afraid.

The law society president was answering to the quesation of legal reprsentation. He clarified that SDP and Chia were seeking free legal representation which they conveniently left out and gave the impression that no lawyer would act for them even when paid. This charade was also done in this forum.

Nobody likes to be used for other people's agenda. There is no love lost between the law society and the Govt.

Looks like you are confused and unable to understand the issues.

Just in case you are not aware, Chia Ti Lik, Yaw etc joined the YPAP long after the PAP was persecuting JBJ, the opposition, detaining people and gerrymandering the whole country and nothings has changed. You are heroworshipping the wrong folks.

was he rejected by RP? he was never a SDP member. heard that he n his motley F4 wanted to join RP but were rejected. true?

now they are so involved in SDP, are they members or still just "supporters"? if he follows chee's ideology, why only supporter and not join as full fledge member? easier for another mutiny if the wind doesn't blow his way again?

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Scroobal

The law society was constrained by law courtesy of LKY. SL as a lawyer herself made an argument in parliament for greater freedom for the law society for which I believe little credit was given.

As to CTL and weasly lawyers. You might want to add apart from jumping political boats he has a prediliction for jumping " Political Causes" boats. IE from defending G Nair to defending the TBT 18 because of an inability to do all the work. But then again defending the TBT gets one a trip to UK whilst defending G N does not garner as high a profile.




Locke

 

[chinkangkor]

He also dared and joined the YPAP and WP. What has he or the president got to do with voters being a afraid.

It is human behaviour at work. Is it so difficult for you to see the relevance to voters' behavours?

 

[cass888]

Ask the reCHEEme don't talk so much. Deposit $1 million with the lawyer and even Davinder Singh will represent them. No money no talk.

He also dared and joined the YPAP and WP. What has he or the president got to do with voters being a afraid.

The law society president was answering to the quesation of legal reprsentation. He clarified that SDP and Chia were seeking free legal representation which they conveniently left out and gave the impression that no lawyer would act for them even when paid. This charade was also done in this forum.

Nobody likes to be used for other people's agenda. There is no love lost between the law society and the Govt.

Looks like you are confused and unable to understand the issues.

Just in case you are not aware, Chia Ti Lik, Yaw etc joined the YPAP long after the PAP was persecuting JBJ, the opposition, detaining people and gerrymandering the whole country and nothings has changed. You are heroworshipping the wrong folks.

 

[cass888]

He also dared and joined the YPAP and WP. What has he or the president got to do with voters being a afraid.

He quit YPAP because PAP wouldn't give him a second look with regard to being a candidate. He quit WP told him to shut up in Sammyboy. The reCHEEme cannot afford to reject anybody.

 

[chinkangkor]

The law society president was answering to the quesation of legal reprsentation. He clarified that SDP and Chia were seeking free legal representation which they conveniently left out and gave the impression that no lawyer would act for them even when paid. This charade was also done in this forum.

Nobody likes to be used for other people's agenda. There is no love lost between the law society and the Govt.

Whether Chia Li Tik joined YPAP first, then WP and now Chee in TBT campaign is his personal choice. We have to find our own calling in life. What is admirable is his courage to fight a cause he believes in and to step out into the arena to take actions.

When IBAHRI invited the Law Society to comment on its draft report on Singapore legal system and reform, it was not responding the way it should. The reason is obvious - fear of offending the Govt.

When Chee publicly invited the Law Society to comment on civil and political rights, it stated that it has no comment. It is simply afraid to take a position.

If fear of govt is so pervasive in the Law Society and in the legal fraternity, it is not difficult for us to see that the average folks have that same fear.

During GE, some may fear losing facilities, HDB upgrading, withdrawal of bus services, childcare amenities etc, if they voted for the opposition.

 

[scroobal]

Whether Chia Li Tik joined YPAP first, then WP and now Chee in TBT campaign is his personal choice. We have to find our own calling in life. What is admirable is his courage to fight a cause he believes in and to step out into the arena to take actions.

When IBAHRI invited the Law Society to comment on its draft report on Singapore legal system and reform, it was not responding the way it should. The reason is obvious - fear of offending the Govt.

When Chee publicly invited the Law Society to comment on civil and political rights, it stated that it has no comment. It is simply afraid to take a position.

If fear of govt is so pervasive in the Law Society and in the legal fraternity, it is not difficult for us to see that the average folks have that same fear.

During GE, some may fear losing facilities, HDB upgrading, withdrawal of bus services, childcare amenities etc, if they voted for the opposition.

What has the above to do with your claim that voters fear the PAP. Are you imagining or a just a personal state of mind.

Ask you to explain how come voters in PP, Nee Soon Central, Hougang and Gombak suddenly lost their fear that you claim exist.

Don't be afraid, vote the opposition, conquer that fear. Don'ty listen to the rubbish that comes from grassroots and the ST.

 

[chinkangkor]

Looks like you are confused and unable to understand the issues.

Just in case you are not aware, Chia Ti Lik, Yaw etc joined the YPAP long after the PAP was persecuting JBJ, the opposition, detaining people and gerrymandering the whole country and nothings has changed. You are heroworshipping the wrong folks.

You are questioning their motives.

People do change throughout their lives. More so in politics. They want a place to fulfill their political aspirations. What's so wrong with that?

 

[chinkangkor]

What has the above to do with your claim that voters fear the PAP. Are you imagining or a just a personal state of mind.

Ask you to explain how come voters in PP, Nee Soon Central, Hougang and Gombak suddenly lost their fear that you claim exist.

Don't be afraid, vote the opposition, conquer that fear. Don'ty listen to the rubbish that comes from grassroots and the ST.

Are you sure all votes in PP, Nee Soon Central, Hougang and Gombak lost their fear of the govt?

 

[scroobal]

You are questioning their motives.

People do change throughout their lives. More so in politics. They want a place to fulfill their political aspirations. What's so wrong with that?

I will certainly question anyone's motive if they join the pap after numerous detention of people without trial including a record breaking 32 years, JBJ and other opposition members persecution that has been the hallmark of the PAP from the very start.

They joined after all this happenned. One must be an imbecile to think others will not question their motives.

Maybe you can explain why they joined the pap - free milk and cookies while chia thye poh was held without trial.

 

[scroobal]

Are you sure all votes in PP, Nee Soon Central, Hougang and Gombak lost their fear of the govt?

So you are looking for 100% on the basis that the remainder are in fear. Boy, you are one scared man. Grow a spine and don't let old wife's tales get the better of you.

Don't be afraid to vote opposition. Build that courage now.

 

[chinkangkor]

I will certainly question anyone's motive if they join the pap after numerous detention of people without trial including a record breaking 32 years, JBJ and other opposition members persecution that has been the hallmark of the PAP from the very start.

They joined after all this happenned. One must be an imbecile to think others will not question their motives.

Maybe you can explain why they joined the pap - free milk and cookies while chia thye poh was held without trial.

On their motives, you got to ask them. All I can say is that when our aspirations are not fulfilled, we may look elsewhere to fulfill them.

 

[chinkangkor]

So you are looking for 100% on the basis that the remainder are in fear. Boy, you are one scared man. Grow a spine and don't let old wife's tales get the better of you.

Don't be afraid to vote opposition. Build that courage now.

I believe that the fear factor exists and I base it on what I have read and from people I've come across.

 

[guavatree]

was he rejected by RP? he was never a SDP member. heard that he n his motley F4 wanted to join RP but were rejected. true?

chao ah kwa PAP dog no amount of your twisting & turning is gonna work ... hehe

with your fucktard hypocrite lying moronic behavior & character you con the laukwayboos!

maybe you're trying to convince laukwayboos to believe you.

go and throw urself down from the 9th storey and end all your misery ... LOL

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Perhaps Jaslyn's lawyer, Thiru, may now be having 2nd thoughts about taking on such an 'excruciatingly painful' case after just one tranche of court hearing. Ng E-Jay's lawyer may be thanking his lucky stars that E-Jay PGed on the 1st day.

Nobody likes to be used for other people's agenda.

Good point. But to be fair, I think everyone is entitled to have a change of 'heart' provided one is sincere and genuine about it.

Just in case you are not aware, Chia Ti Lik, Yaw etc joined the YPAP long after the PAP was persecuting JBJ, the opposition, detaining people and gerrymandering the whole country and nothings has changed. You are heroworshipping the wrong folks.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Yes. I think Scroobal himself previously pointed this out and rightly suggested that lawyers interested in raising such matters could perhaps set up their own 'club/society' to circumvent this rule. But if even Ravi and Chia Ti Lik's legal HR offshoot appears to have fizzled out as quickly as it started with great fanfare than where are these lawyers going to come from?

The law society was constrained by law courtesy of LKY.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Not forgetting the more recent Operation Spectrum, the 'fixing' of Francis Seow and the political 'epiphany' of Devan Nair after his fall from grace.

Maybe you can explain why they joined the pap - free milk and cookies while chia thye poh was held without trial.