ISD step in, Pastor Ng apologies

[halsey02]

SO mark ng apologised, he succumbed to isd, he did not endure to his end,,,,, liao,,,,, go to hell liao, tis bastor

The road to hell is paved with good intentions...

 

[exSINgaporean]

CID's advice is: "Condemn can but don't insult."

 

[moolightaffairs]

all these pastors never learn history!!! christianity is the most dirty religion in the world!!!

they started the crusade 3 times and invaded middle east! i think why Muslim nowadays so violent and war mongering because of those christian crusaders induced violent donkey years ago when they start the crusade!!! thats when all the hatred started!

within europe, european countries warring each other but all asked for god protection on the battle field. isnt it contradicting? for example, England and France warring for many years! but all pray on the battle field to ask for "god" protection and blessing. Joan of Arc even name as a saint after many years of her death and she killed a lot of English warriors blessed by the "god". what is this???

when east india company wanted to sell opium to China but dont know the language, those christian priests and pastors in China helped the company to market the opium!!!

developed countries are having lesser and lesser church as the people know all are bullshit and more turn to Buddhism to seek for wisdom of life and vegetarian diet is the in thing now. its more healthy too!

 

[palden]

Agreed. Their history is filled with scandals and cruelty. Do you guys know how Christainity branches out from Catholics? not exactly glorifying god.

 

[fengshuisifu]

I have written to New Creation church to express my disappointment...Goodness ONLY after 2 years then apologised.

P.S - Previous saga, I have also written to Lighthouse church....

ISD need to take firm ACTION..this will NOT be the last...Only matter of time, more will be exposed with technology!

 

[moolightaffairs]

Agreed. Their history is filled with scandals and cruelty. Do you guys know how Christainity branches out from Catholics? not exactly glorifying god.

yes, protestant.....

 

[moolightaffairs]

it was the Catholics departing away from the bible that cause the birth of Protestantism. you should know about this....

teekee, in europe during that time. there are 2 courts ruling the country. one is the kings court and the other one is the church court. the king must have the church blessing during coronation, then he can be the king. these 2 courts is part of the politics during that era. beside catholics getting corrupted, those kings also having their own agenda for introducing protestantism. its a power struggle politically and nothing religious.

teekee u also select thread to answer one ho. as a christian, do u know about the histories i mentioned above??? the trend shows that developed countries having lesser and lesser church goer, i believe becos they study history and psychology. those tricks by the fake pastors and priests money spinning activities cant lure them. even threaten them with hell also no use. lol!!!

 

[moolightaffairs]

you should read about Martin Luther and the reformist movement...

even so, the overall growth of believers is increasing....you want me to show your the distribution of different faith?

sorry, i read about it and the conclusion is the power struggle between the church and the kings.

you mean eastern europe? the eastern orthodox? those will from USSR. so many different churches and even recruiting each others members. of cos, you can add different branches of christianity together catholic, protestants, eastern orthodox and some funny funny money conning MEGAchurchs. u will get a lot of members. but if u separate them, they are not so big in numbers.

 

[moolightaffairs]

looks like teekee kena banned again! anyway, teekee when you are back can you tell me about your view on the crusade which started by the christian?? and the opium trade by those priests and pastor in China???

 

[Yip Hon]

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youtube has not deleted yet !!! why ???




http://sg.yfittopostblog.com/2010/06/15/singaporeans-react-to-controversial-new-creation-sermon/






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Response To Recent Circulation Of Audio Clips Of A Sermon Preached By Pastor Mark Ng In August 2008

New Creation Church (NCC) would like to express our deepest apologies to any person who may have been offended by the remarks made by Pastor Mark Ng during a sermon delivered in August 2008. Pastor Mark has explained to us that his intention was to highlight what he viewed as some inconsistencies in the local Chinese practices, and not meant to cause disrespect to any race or religion.

Following the widely covered media reports in February 2010 of another incident not related to NCC, we initiated an internal review of all past and ongoing sermons. In the course of this review, we realised that Pastor Mark had in this sermon, inadvertently spoken in a manner that could be regarded as slighting these practices.

Arising from this review, we immediately stopped the circulation and sale of this and several other sermons that were deemed insensitive. We also strongly emphasised to all our pastors that sermons of this nature are not acceptable and should not be repeated.

We recognise our responsibility in this major oversight in allowing this sermon not only to be preached, but also, as a usual practice, to be made available as a resource for sale. It is unfortunate that while we have endeavoured in every way to stop the circulation of this sermon, its recent appearance on the Internet continues to possibly cause offence when it was never Pastor Mark’s intention to do so. We assure the public that NCC has no part in the current surfacing of this sermon.

Pastor Mark offers his unreserved and unmitigated apology to the public for his insensitive comments and for failing to observe the basic tenet of Christianity, which is founded on love for one and all. He humbly appeals to those whom he has offended to forgive him of this serious indiscretion.

NCC takes this opportunity to affirm our commitment to the public that we place a high premium on the value of both racial and religious harmony in our multi-faceted society. This is evidenced by our years of consistent support for the many nation-wide programmes on racial and religious harmony.


New Creation Church Council
13 June 2010

 

[Yip Hon]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWZ7yLGZ9a4&feature=player_embedded

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[streetsmart73]

Response To Recent Circulation Of Audio Clips Of A Sermon Preached By Pastor Mark Ng In August 2008

New Creation Church (NCC) would like to express our deepest apologies to any person who may have been offended by the remarks made by Pastor Mark Ng during a sermon delivered in August 2008. Pastor Mark has explained to us that his intention was to highlight what he viewed as some inconsistencies in the local Chinese practices, and not meant to cause disrespect to any race or religion.

Following the widely covered media reports in February 2010 of another incident not related to NCC, we initiated an internal review of all past and ongoing sermons. In the course of this review, we realised that Pastor Mark had in this sermon, inadvertently spoken in a manner that could be regarded as slighting these practices.

Arising from this review, we immediately stopped the circulation and sale of this and several other sermons that were deemed insensitive. We also strongly emphasised to all our pastors that sermons of this nature are not acceptable and should not be repeated.

We recognise our responsibility in this major oversight in allowing this sermon not only to be preached, but also, as a usual practice, to be made available as a resource for sale. It is unfortunate that while we have endeavoured in every way to stop the circulation of this sermon, its recent appearance on the Internet continues to possibly cause offence when it was never Pastor Mark’s intention to do so. We assure the public that NCC has no part in the current surfacing of this sermon.

Pastor Mark offers his unreserved and unmitigated apology to the public for his insensitive comments and for failing to observe the basic tenet of Christianity, which is founded on love for one and all. He humbly appeals to those whom he has offended to forgive him of this serious indiscretion.

NCC takes this opportunity to affirm our commitment to the public that we place a high premium on the value of both racial and religious harmony in our multi-faceted society. This is evidenced by our years of consistent support for the many nation-wide programmes on racial and religious harmony.


New Creation Church Council
13 June 2010

hi there

1. thank you for the article, queenie.
2. here, is an arsehole who crossed the line.
3. and does not learn how to shut up his big mouther.

 

[JohnTT]

Everytime the church pastors mocked & poked fun at other religions, they just SIMPLY apologised & ISD just forgive them. This is never ending man....harsh action needs to be done. Just wondering whether there will be double standard if other religions make fun of the christians instead????

 

[Queen Seok Duk]

You can't really blame him.

The Bible says all other gods are false. So what do you expect him to say ? You can't fault him without at the same time not finding fault with the Bible, and then you end up mocking the Bible.

 

[moolightaffairs]

You can't really blame him.

The Bible says all other gods are false. So what do you expect him to say ? You can't fault him without at the same time not finding fault with the Bible, and then you end up mocking the Bible.

actually in the bible jesus said a lot of people will make use of him to preach and all these are fake god or church. i think jesus is pretty smart to foresee all this thing to happen. CHC and NCC are all fake christian!

 

[fengshuisifu]

As the Chief of Sermon leading the Chinese NCC, this audio circulation has been there more than 2 years ago...I hope ISD will act on him, as massive penetration & causing rift among the religion groups has cracked..

No wonder among my Christian Chinese community, there seems to be against NCC..going there...leading to even disharmony among families.

Bro, we cannot under estimate the very social fabric of Singapore society.
It is getting out of hands, if not for the internet, youtube, facebook..stomp..etc

You can't really blame him.

The Bible says all other gods are false. So what do you expect him to say ? You can't fault him without at the same time not finding fault with the Bible, and then you end up mocking the Bible.

 

[Queen Seok Duk]

Christianity believes in only ONE God, which means they believe the rest are false. So you can't preach Christianity without disparaging other religions.

Maybe a law should be passed for sermons to be kept strictly within the church. Sermons are not meant for youtube and the likes.

 

[SneeringTree]

Christianity believes in only ONE God, which means they believe the rest are false. So you can't preach Christianity without disparaging other religions.

Maybe a law should be passed for sermons to be kept strictly within the church. Sermons are not meant for youtube and the likes.

Buddhists believe that there is no god, but does that give them the license to run down other religions that believe in god(s)? There is no reason why one cannot preach without disparaging others, if you can only preach a religion by running down others, that your religion is fucked up.

It is worse to keep such things under wraps. What makes certain things OK if spoken privately? If it is bad to disparage other religions, it is bad whether you say it publicly or privately amongst friends.

Islamic extremism also festered under the radar, in the private spaces of extremist mosques. See where that got us?

 

[soIsee]

Then they should just pray to ISD?

Better don't.

After they set up altar on common corridor depicting ISD how?

Complain to TC , TC also don't dare to remove.

 

[Queen Seok Duk]

Buddhists believe that there is no god, but does that give them the license to run down other religions that believe in god(s)? There is no reason why one cannot preach without disparaging others, if you can only preach a religion by running down others, that your religion is fucked up.

You deliberately misinterpreted my point so that you could make your point.

Am I saying that any religion who believes in One God has the right to run down another religion ? Am I promoting the right of one particular religion ?

I'm saying as long as a religion believes in One God, the problem can never be solved with ISD giving warnings. The problem is in the heart of the doctrine, not just a matter (or moment) of indiscretion on the part of the preacher.