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Is Fear of Muslims Rational?
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Read again. Take ur medication
So of mudslimes need to be specially catered for than what I have posted about them is true. Thanks for confirming.
It's wat u written. Yr drugs must be wearing off
Ehh...no time to tcss. I have more important thing to do. U go look at the mirror
Good to see you running off with yr tail between your legs. Anyway your Faggot lover the prostitute trader will come to your defence soon with his atas but BS postings.
Jeneral John Tan s/o Kuppusamy Vengedamuti (Muslim Body Count: 60,000), are you trying to sound clever? I hope not because with your limited intelligence, you won't be able to pull it off very well.
In any case, congrats on slaying your 60,000th Muslim and collecting your 120,000th Muslim ear. The Fort Canning Museum of Singapore War Heroes is struggling to cope with your daily delivery of thousands of jars containing the ears of the Muslims you have single-handedly and mercilessly slaughtered.
I have, thus far, mocked and ridiculed you and your fellow Jenerals because I see you clowns as hisap-konek Jenerals who like to talk big but who have no brains and no balls. Essentially, gutless loudmouthed dumbfuck clowns. But I must acknowledge that you, as Chief Clown of the Echo Chamber, do have big hairy balls. This is evidenced by your 60,000th Muslim kill. Hence, I will pause this mockery and ridicule for 60 seconds (to coincide with your 60,000th Muslim kill) and address your previous post in which you said:
The estimated number of "physical" churches (church buildings) in the world vary, with estimates as high as 37 million. But I will use the number of congregations (5.5 million) as an indication of the number of "physical" churches in the world as it is a far lower and easier number for your little brain to process.
Now tell me, how many of this 5.5 million "physical" churches have been "shut down" or "burned" by Muslims? Don't pull facts and figures from your arse like you always do but instead, show some respect for yourself and check it out.
Once you have that figure, go to your private stable. Whilst your unicorn is sleeping, slip your hand into its arse and pull out your magic calculator that you store in its large intestine.
Then work out the percentage of "physical" churches you know of that have been "shut down" or "burned down" by Muslims and let me have that number.
In any case, congrats on slaying your 60,000th Muslim and collecting your 120,000th Muslim ear. The Fort Canning Museum of Singapore War Heroes is struggling to cope with your daily delivery of thousands of jars containing the ears of the Muslims you have single-handedly and mercilessly slaughtered.
I have, thus far, mocked and ridiculed you and your fellow Jenerals because I see you clowns as hisap-konek Jenerals who like to talk big but who have no brains and no balls. Essentially, gutless loudmouthed dumbfuck clowns. But I must acknowledge that you, as Chief Clown of the Echo Chamber, do have big hairy balls. This is evidenced by your 60,000th Muslim kill. Hence, I will pause this mockery and ridicule for 60 seconds (to coincide with your 60,000th Muslim kill) and address your previous post in which you said:
As of 2019, there are about 3.6 billion plus Christians and Catholics in the world. This comprises 1.3 billion Catholics and 2.4 billion Christians from 45,000+ denominations made up of 571 million Protestants, 286 million Orthodox Christians, 353 million Evangelicals, 693 million Pentecostals and Charismatics, 448 million "Independent" Christians from Africa, Asia, Europe, Latin America, North America, Oceania and about 113 million "unaffiliated" Christians.The estimated number of "physical" churches (church buildings) in the world vary, with estimates as high as 37 million. But I will use the number of congregations (5.5 million) as an indication of the number of "physical" churches in the world as it is a far lower and easier number for your little brain to process.
Now tell me, how many of this 5.5 million "physical" churches have been "shut down" or "burned" by Muslims? Don't pull facts and figures from your arse like you always do but instead, show some respect for yourself and check it out.
Once you have that figure, go to your private stable. Whilst your unicorn is sleeping, slip your hand into its arse and pull out your magic calculator that you store in its large intestine.
Then work out the percentage of "physical" churches you know of that have been "shut down" or "burned down" by Muslims and let me have that number.
I'm glad a Christian like you support moslems who close down churches in Indonesia and burn churches in Nigeria. I'm sure you are screaming allahu akbar at the top of your voice. Do you have any facts about how many mosques have been closed down by Christians?
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/West...he-UN-after-their-Church-is-closed-18593.html
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nigeria-christians-muslims/
All religious minorities in mudslime countries are abused by the mudslimes and their religious intolerance.
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Why are Pakistan's Christians targeted?
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Image captionLahore is one of several cities with a significant Christian population
Pakistan's Christians, like other religious minorities in the country, have been the target of escalating attacks in recent years.
The attacks, on their residential areas and places of worship, have mostly been motivated by the country's controversial blasphemy laws.
But there have also been political motives.
The BBC's M Ilyas Khan explains more about the community and why it is being targeted.
How many Christians are there in Pakistan?
Pakistan is overwhelmingly Muslim but Christians and Hindus make up the largest minority groups, with each representing about 1.6% of the population.
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Image captionBesides Karachi, other cities like Lahore, Faisalabad and Peshawar also have Christian populations
The southern metropolis of Karachi has a large Christian population, as do the cities of Lahore and Faisalabad.
There are countless Christian villages in the Punjab heartland, while there is also a sizeable population in the deeply conservative north-western Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, particularly in Peshawar city.
Before the partition of India, what is now Pakistan was a much more diverse place but tolerance has declined as society has become increasingly Islamicised and more homogenous.
Minorities used to make up 15% of the population in these cities. Now they account for less than 4%.
Are they an influential group?
The majority of Pakistan's Christians are descended from low-caste Hindus who converted during the British Raj - partly to escape the caste system.
Image copyrightAFP/GETTY IMAGES
Image captionReligious minorities including Christians have been increasingly targeted amid the growing Islamicisation of Pakistan
Many provided labour in garrison towns. In fact, to this day, every cantonment city in Pakistan has an area known as Lal Kurti, which is traditionally where the Christians reside.
But Christian communities remain among the poorest sections of society and often still do menial jobs. Entire villages in parts of Punjab are Christian and their inhabitants work as labourers and farmhands.
However, there are sections of the Christian community that are more well off. Better educated and mainly settled in Karachi, they came over from Goa during the British Raj.
What all of them share, though, is a sense of vulnerability. This has seen a number of wealthier Christians leaving Pakistan to settle in countries like Canada and Australia as they feel the climate of intolerance in the country has become unbearable.
Why are they being attacked?
Muslims and Christians mostly co-exist amiably enough without frequent outbreaks of animosity.
But accusations of blasphemy have also often led to mob violence against Christians, while militant Islamists have also targeted the community.
Recent attacks include:
Image captionChristians mounted anti-Taliban protests following the 2013 Peshawar bomb attacks
Since the 1990s, scores of Christians have also been convicted of "desecrating the Koran" or "blaspheming against the Prophet Muhammad", although experts say most accusations are fuelled by personal disputes.
While most were handed death sentences by lower courts, those sentences were often set aside by higher courts due to lack of evidence or because the complainants were found to be targeting the community for economic benefits.
In 2012, a Christian girl, Rimsha Masih , became the first non-Muslim to be acquitted in a blasphemy case when it was discovered she had been framed by a local Muslim cleric.
Image copyrightAFP/GETTY
Image captionMany Islamists saw Qadri as a martyr and protested against his execution
Perhaps the best known example is that of Asia Bibi , a Christian woman from a Punjab village who in 2010 got into an altercation with some Muslim women and was later accused by them of having blasphemed.
Salman Taseer, the then governor of Punjab who stated that Pakistan's strict blasphemy law had been abused in the case, was latermurdered by his Islamist bodyguard , Mumtaz Qadri.
Qadri was found guilty and executed in February 2016, prompting mass protests.
Pakistan's minister for minority affairs and a Christian leader, Shahbaz Bhatti, was assassinated in 2011 by the Taliban for speaking out against the law.
Are there any other reasons?
Image copyrightAFP/GETTY IMAGES
Image captionMany Christians are among the poorest in Pakistani society
Some of the violence is directly related to the American-led war in Afghanistan, so it has an expressly political motive.
Months after the US-led coalition attacked Afghanistan in late 2001, a grenade attack on a chapel inside a Christian mission hospital in Taxila city killed four people.
A couple of months later, gunmen executed six workers of a Christian charity in their Karachi office. These incidents, although isolated, have continued through the years.
Attacks on Pakistan's Christian and Hindu minorities could be part of a militant plan to send a message to the West or embarrass the country's civilian governments when they appear to be too friendly to the West.
This may also be a strategy by the country's powerful military which is known to have protected Islamist militants operating in Afghanistan and India, and has supported anti-blasphemy vigilante groups in the past.
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Why are Pakistan's Christians targeted?
- 30 October 2018
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Image copyrightAFP/GETTY IMAGES
Image captionLahore is one of several cities with a significant Christian population
Pakistan's Christians, like other religious minorities in the country, have been the target of escalating attacks in recent years.
The attacks, on their residential areas and places of worship, have mostly been motivated by the country's controversial blasphemy laws.
But there have also been political motives.
The BBC's M Ilyas Khan explains more about the community and why it is being targeted.
How many Christians are there in Pakistan?
Pakistan is overwhelmingly Muslim but Christians and Hindus make up the largest minority groups, with each representing about 1.6% of the population.
Image copyrightAFP/GETTY IMAGES
Image captionBesides Karachi, other cities like Lahore, Faisalabad and Peshawar also have Christian populations
The southern metropolis of Karachi has a large Christian population, as do the cities of Lahore and Faisalabad.
There are countless Christian villages in the Punjab heartland, while there is also a sizeable population in the deeply conservative north-western Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, particularly in Peshawar city.
Before the partition of India, what is now Pakistan was a much more diverse place but tolerance has declined as society has become increasingly Islamicised and more homogenous.
Minorities used to make up 15% of the population in these cities. Now they account for less than 4%.
Are they an influential group?
The majority of Pakistan's Christians are descended from low-caste Hindus who converted during the British Raj - partly to escape the caste system.
Image copyrightAFP/GETTY IMAGES
Image captionReligious minorities including Christians have been increasingly targeted amid the growing Islamicisation of Pakistan
Many provided labour in garrison towns. In fact, to this day, every cantonment city in Pakistan has an area known as Lal Kurti, which is traditionally where the Christians reside.
But Christian communities remain among the poorest sections of society and often still do menial jobs. Entire villages in parts of Punjab are Christian and their inhabitants work as labourers and farmhands.
However, there are sections of the Christian community that are more well off. Better educated and mainly settled in Karachi, they came over from Goa during the British Raj.
What all of them share, though, is a sense of vulnerability. This has seen a number of wealthier Christians leaving Pakistan to settle in countries like Canada and Australia as they feel the climate of intolerance in the country has become unbearable.
Why are they being attacked?
Muslims and Christians mostly co-exist amiably enough without frequent outbreaks of animosity.
But accusations of blasphemy have also often led to mob violence against Christians, while militant Islamists have also targeted the community.
Recent attacks include:
- An attack on a church in Quetta in December 2017 that killed nine people and injured 57
- A suicide attack targeting Christianscelebrating Easter at a Lahore playground in March 2016 left 70 dead and more than 340 wounded
- Two bomb blasts at churches in Lahore in March 2015 killed 14 and hurt more than 70 people
- A twin suicide bomb attack at a Peshawar church in 2013 left around 80 dead
- In 2009, nearly 40 houses and a church were burnt by a mob in Gojra town in Punjab , with eight people burnt alive
- In 2005, hundreds fled their homes in Faisalabad as churches and Christian schools were set on fire by a mob, after a resident was blamed for burning pages of the Koran
Image captionChristians mounted anti-Taliban protests following the 2013 Peshawar bomb attacks
Since the 1990s, scores of Christians have also been convicted of "desecrating the Koran" or "blaspheming against the Prophet Muhammad", although experts say most accusations are fuelled by personal disputes.
While most were handed death sentences by lower courts, those sentences were often set aside by higher courts due to lack of evidence or because the complainants were found to be targeting the community for economic benefits.
In 2012, a Christian girl, Rimsha Masih , became the first non-Muslim to be acquitted in a blasphemy case when it was discovered she had been framed by a local Muslim cleric.
Image copyrightAFP/GETTY
Image captionMany Islamists saw Qadri as a martyr and protested against his execution
Perhaps the best known example is that of Asia Bibi , a Christian woman from a Punjab village who in 2010 got into an altercation with some Muslim women and was later accused by them of having blasphemed.
Salman Taseer, the then governor of Punjab who stated that Pakistan's strict blasphemy law had been abused in the case, was latermurdered by his Islamist bodyguard , Mumtaz Qadri.
Qadri was found guilty and executed in February 2016, prompting mass protests.
Pakistan's minister for minority affairs and a Christian leader, Shahbaz Bhatti, was assassinated in 2011 by the Taliban for speaking out against the law.
Are there any other reasons?
Image copyrightAFP/GETTY IMAGES
Image captionMany Christians are among the poorest in Pakistani society
Some of the violence is directly related to the American-led war in Afghanistan, so it has an expressly political motive.
Months after the US-led coalition attacked Afghanistan in late 2001, a grenade attack on a chapel inside a Christian mission hospital in Taxila city killed four people.
A couple of months later, gunmen executed six workers of a Christian charity in their Karachi office. These incidents, although isolated, have continued through the years.
Attacks on Pakistan's Christian and Hindu minorities could be part of a militant plan to send a message to the West or embarrass the country's civilian governments when they appear to be too friendly to the West.
This may also be a strategy by the country's powerful military which is known to have protected Islamist militants operating in Afghanistan and India, and has supported anti-blasphemy vigilante groups in the past.
The last hours of a Christian sanitary worker in Pakistan
11 June 2017
New cross symbolic for Pakistan's Christians
01 September 2015
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The Top 50 Countries Where It’s Most Dangerous to Follow Jesus
If trends continue, North Korea will no longer be the world’s worst persecutor of Christians.
SARAH EEKHOFF ZYLSTRA
JANUARY 10, 2018 9:00 AM
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Your daily news briefing from the editors of CT:
For decades, North Korea has clearly been the world’s worst persecutor of Christians. But now, another nation nearly matches it.
Open Doors released today its 2018 World Watch List (WWL), an annual ranking of the 50 countries where it is most dangerous to follow Jesus. Approximately 215 million Christians now experience high, very high, or extreme levels of persecution; that means 1 in 12 Christians live where Christianity is “illegal, forbidden, or punished,” according to Open Doors researchers.
Kim Jung-un’s country hasn’t moved from the No. 1 spot on the list for 16 years in a row. “With more than 50,000 in prison or labor camps, such a ranking is little surprise for the totalitarian regime that controls every aspect of life in the country and forces worship of the Kim family,” Open Doors reported.
But rivaling it this year is Afghanistan, which ranked No. 2 by less than a point. North Korea’s total score was 94 (on a 100-point scale), pushed above Afghanistan’s 93 by a 0.6 difference in their violence rating. In the other five categories measured—private life, family life, community life, national life, and church life—both countries received the worst scores possible.
“Never before have the top two countries been so close in incidents,” Open Doors USA president and CEO David Curry stated. “Both countries are extreme in intolerance and outright persecution of Christians in every area Open Doors monitors.”
The rising persecution in Afghanistan “is a tragedy considering the efforts being made by the international community to help rebuild Afghanistan are failing to ensure freedom of religion,” stated Curry. “Reports of violence and human rights atrocities from North Korea are pervasive, while the situation faced by Christians in Afghanistan may be underestimated. It is hard for Westerners to imagine a second country could nearly meet the levels of persecution seen in North Korea, but Afghanistan has reached that level this year.”
Afghanistan has almost always been in the top 10, marked the fifth worst overall over 25 years of Open Doors research. Over the past several years, the majority-Muslim country has been inching its way up from No. 6 in 2015 (81 points) to No. 4 in 2016 (88 points) to No. 3 in 2017 (89 points).
Where Is Persecution the Most Violent?
Trailing a few spots behind at No. 5, Afghanistan’s neighbor Pakistan recorded the most violence against Christians last year. The country also scored the highest in church attacks, abductions, and forced marriages, according to Open Doors.
It also recently drew the ire of President Donald Trump, who last week cut offPakistan’s military aid over frustrations with alleged Pakistani assistance given to terrorists in Afghanistan. The same day, the US State Department announced theaddition of Pakistan to a new “special watch list” of governments or entities that “engage in or tolerate” severe religious freedom violations, yet aren’t bad enough to be named a “country of particular concern.”
Nigeria (No. 14), where Boko Haram operates, and the Central African Republic (No. 35) ranked second and third for violence. The US Commission on International Religious Freedom hasrecommended that the State Department add Pakistan, Nigeria, and the Central African Republic to its list of “countries of particular concern.” (So far, they have not been added.)
Image: Open Doors
What’s the Biggest Threat to the Persecuted Church?
Rounding out the top 10, following North Korea and Afghanistan, are Somalia (No. 3), Sudan (No. 4), Pakistan (No. 5), Eritrea (No. 6), Libya (No. 7), Iraq (No. 8), Yemen (No. 9), and Iran (No. 10).
It’s not a coincidence that all of these countries—except North Korea and Eritrea—are predominately Muslim. In fact, “Islamic extremism remains the global, dominant driver of persecution, responsible for initiating oppression and conflict in 35 of the 50 countries on the list,” Open Doors stated.
The Islamist movement is “the part of Islam which embraces a clear political agenda for bringing nations under Muslim domination and shari‘ah law,” according to Open Doors. The movement has three parts: individuals and networks that use violence to advance their political goals; those who reject any system based on non-Islamic law but who aren’t violent; and those who interact with society by voting or campaigning for Islamic law.
“The Islamist movement manifests itself in Muslim-majority countries by trying to radicalize society, and in Muslim-minority countries by radicalizing Muslim communities,” Open Doors stated.
One example: “Every day six women are raped, sexually harassed, or forced into marriage to a Muslim under threat of death due to their Christian faith,” Open Doors reported. This number is likely low, since it includes only reported incidents. It also points to the double persecution—for both their gender and religion—that Christian women face in much of the world.
The majority of the countries on the list saw an overall increase in persecution from 2016 to 2017 (30 of 50). Five of the six countries where persecution increased the most were majority-Muslim, with the notable exception of India, which moved from No. 15 in 2017 to No. 11 in 2018.
What’s the Newest Threat to the Persecuted Church?
“Radical Hinduism and Indian nationalism are driving factors in the increasing levels of unrest and instability Christians face,” Open Doors reported. “In 2014, India scored only 55 points, while during the 2018 reporting period, [WWL] researchers assigned 81 points to the nation—one of the fastest and most intense increases seen.”
India’s Hindu nationalism has been growing since the election of nationalist Narendra Modi to prime minister in 2014, and was highlighted by the election of nationalist president Ram Nath Kovind last summer.
Under Modi, religious freedom violations against Christians—such as social exclusion, abuse, and imprisonment—have spread unchecked. In 2017, Open Doors counted more than 600 persecution incidents, though “most cases actually remain unreported, so the true number is much higher,” the organization said. (At the same time, Compassion International’s 589 Indian centers serving 145,000 children wereshut down without explanation.)
India’s religious nationalism has swelled over its borders, spilling into neighboring Nepal and catapulting that country onto the list—and halfway up it, at No. 25. In October, Hindu-majority Nepal took aim at evangelism by criminalizing religious conversion; the Pew Research Center has noted increasing social hostility there as far back as 2015.
Buddhist nationalism in countries such as Sri Lanka (No. 44), Bhutan (No. 33), and Myanmar (No. 24) is less obvious but still there. Parents have to send their children to Buddhist schools, where children must learn about Buddhism and participate in its rituals, Open Doors said. And Christians often are refused permits to rent a place to hold worship services.
Nearby Vietnam (No. 18) and China (No. 43) can also be hard places for Christians—not because of religious nationalism, but because Communism sees religion as an “opium for the masses” that should be eliminated.
In Vietnam, levels of violence dropped, but that didn’t lead Open Doors to optimism. “While it is good that no Christians died for their faith in Vietnam, the authorities continue to crack down on ethnic minority Christians and will start implementing a new law on religion in 2018 for all Christians.”
Any Good News for the Persecuted Church?
In addition to Nepal, Azerbaijan joined the list this year (No. 45). They replaced the sub-Saharan African countries of Comoros and Tanzania, which ranked No. 42 and No. 33 respectively in 2017.
“Tanzania is the most eye-catching example of a country where the situation for Christians considerably improved,” Open Doors said. The majority-Christian country was struggling against a Muslim minority that was growing more radical when President John Magufuli was elected in 2015.
“His administration made serious work of cracking down on radical Islamic groups,” Open Doors said. “Many leaders were caught and others went into hiding. The violence against Christians decreased a lot.”
Tanzania was the best case of improvement. Though scores in Ethiopia (No. 29) and Kenya (No. 32) both dropped due to Muslims and Christians finding common ground in politics, both nations also saw more violence.
Ethiopia’s violence was directed against both Muslims and Christians who were protesting the government, asking for more democracy and an end to corruption. In Kenya, the radical al-Shabaab Islamist group killed more than 30 Christians, beheading many. “This seems to be a new tactic to instill fear in the Christian community and get them to flee en masse,” Open Doors noted.
Syria is another country where fewer reports of violence against Christians were hardly cause for celebration. While it dropped from No. 6 to No. 15, and while ISIS has lost most of its territory, accurate persecution numbers are hard to get from the war-torn country. In addition, many of the country’s Christians have already fled.
“Anti-Christian violence has not disappeared,” Open Doors said. “There were still Syrian Christians being abducted, physically and sexually abused, fleeing their homes and country.”
Open Doors’s rankings came out a week after the State Department released its list of countries of particular concern—those that have “engaged in or tolerated particularly severe violations of religious freedom.”
Like Open Doors, the State Department tagged mostly Middle Eastern and Asian countries: Burma, China, Eritrea, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. Its list was the same as last year’s.
CT previously reported the WWL rankings for 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, and 2012, including a spotlight on where it's hardest to believe. CT also asked experts whether the United Statesbelongs on persecution lists, and compiled the most-read stories of the persecuted church in 2015, 2016 and 2017.
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215,000,000 Christians Persecuted, Mostly by Muslims
by Raymond Ibrahim
January 21, 2018 at 5:00 am
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- In short, the overwhelming majority of persecution that these 215 million Christians experience around the world — especially the worst forms, such as rape and murder — occurs at the hands of Muslims.
- If time is on the side of Christians living under Communist regimes, it is noton the side of Christians living under Islam. The center of the great Christian Byzantine Empire is now an increasingly intolerant, rapidly Islamizing Turkey. Carthage, once a bastion of Christianity — where one of Christendom's greatest theologians, St. Augustine, was born and where the New Testament canon was confirmed in 397 — is today 99% Muslim-majority Tunisia.
- As what began in the seventh century comes closer to fruition and the entire world becomes more Islamic and "infidel" free, as in Iraq, confronting these uncomfortable facts is at least a welcome first step in countering the problem.
The Islamic world had the lion's share of this persecution; 38 of the 50 worst nations are Muslim-majority. The report further cites "Islamic oppression" behind the "extreme persecution" that prevails in eight of the 10 worst nations. In short, the overwhelming majority of persecution that these 215 million Christians experience around the world — especially the worst forms, such as rape and murder — occurs at the hands of Muslims.
These Muslims come from all walks of life and reflect a variety of races, nationalities, languages, socio-economic and political circumstances. They include Muslims from among America's closest allies (Saudi Arabia #12 worst persecutor) and Muslims from its opponents (Iran #10); Muslims from rich nations (Qatar #27 and Kuwait #34) and Muslims from poor nations (Afghanistan #2, Somalia #3, and Yemen #9); Muslims from widely recognized "radical" nations (Pakistan #5), and Muslims from "moderate" nations (Malaysia #23 and Indonesia #38).
But if the World Watch List ranks North Korea — non-Islamic, communist — as the number one worst persecutor of Christians, why belabor the religious identity of Muslims? Surely North Korea's top spot suggests that Christian persecution is not intrinsic to the Islamic world but is rather a byproduct of repressive regimes and other socio-economic factors that proliferate throughout the Muslim world?
There are some important distinctions that need to be made. While Christians are indeed experiencing a "life of hell" in North Korea, overthrowing Kim Jong-un's regime could not only lead to a quick halt to this persecution but also to a rise of Christianity — as has happened recently in Russia. Under the Soviet Union, between 12 and 25 million Christians were killed for their faith[1], and approximately153,000 churches were shut down.[2] Since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, about a thousand churches have been (re)built every year, and, according to a 2014 Pew report, between 1991 and 2008, Russians identifying themselves as Orthodox Christian rose from 31% to 72%. That "South Korea is so distinctively Christian" reflects what could be in store — and creating fear for — its northern counterpart.
In the Islamic world, the fall of dictatorial regimes rarely seems to alleviate the sufferings of Christians. On the contrary, when secular dictators fall — Saddam in Iraq, Qaddafi in Libya, and attempts against Assad in Syria — persecution of Christian seems to rise as a grassroots byproduct. Today, Iraq is the eighth worst nation in the world in which to be Christian, Syria is fifteenth, and Libya seventh. Under dictators, these countries were significantly safer for religious minorities.
A militiaman from the Nineveh Plain Protection Units (NPU) walks through a destroyed church on November 8, 2016 in Qaraqosh, Iraq. The NPU is a militia made up of Assyrian Christians that was formed in late 2014 to defend against ISIS. Qaraqosh is a mostly Assyrian city near of Mosul that was captured by ISIS in August 2014, and liberated in November 2016. (Photo by Chris McGrath/Getty Images)
Similarly, the only countries that were part of the former Soviet Union that still persecute Christians are, rather tellingly, the Muslim-majority ones of Central Asia. These include Uzbekistan (#16 worst persecutor), Turkmenistan (#19), Tajikistan (#22), Kazakhstan (#28) and Azerbaijan (#45).[3]
The "extreme persecution" of Christians throughout the Muslim world is part of a continuum begun nearly fourteen hundred years ago. The same patterns of persecution are still prevalent — including attacks for blasphemy and apostasy, restrictions and attacks on churches, and a general contempt for — followed by the vile treatment of — "subhuman infidels."
Unlike the persecution of Christians in Communist nations, rooted to a particular regime, Muslim persecution of Christians is perennial, existential, and far transcends any ruler or regime. It unfortunately seems part and parcel of the history, doctrines, and socio-political makeup of Islam — hence its tenacity and ubiquity. It is a "tradition."
That those persecuting Christians come from a wide variety of racial, linguistic, cultural, and socio-economic backgrounds — from African, Arab, Asian, and Caucasian nations — and share little in common with one another, except for Islam, sadly only further underscores the true source of the persecution.
If time is on the side of Christians living under Communist regimes, it is not on the side of Christians living under Islam. The center of the great Christian Byzantine Empire is now an increasingly intolerant, Islamizing Turkey. Carthage, once a bastion of Christianity — where one of Christendom's greatest theologians, St. Augustine, was born and where the New Testament canon was confirmed in 397 — is today 99% Muslim-majority Tunisia. Centuries of persecution and forcing non-Muslims to live as barely-tolerated third-class residents are responsible for the demographic shift that Tunisia and other formerly non-Muslim nations are experiencing.
Long after North Korea's Kim Jong-un has gone, tens of millions of Christians and other "infidels" will still suffer persecution. As whatbegan in the seventh century comes closer to fruition and the entire world becomes more Islamic and "infidel" free, as in Iraq, confronting these uncomfortable facts is at least a welcome first step in countering the problem.
Raymond Ibrahim is the author of Crucified Again: Exposing Islam's New War on Christians (published by Regnery with Gatestone Institute, April 2013).
[1] James M. Nelson, Psychology, Religion, and Spirituality, 2009, p. 427.[2] Paul Froese, "Forced Secularization in Soviet Russia: Why an Atheistic Monopoly Failed,"Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion, Volume 43, Number 1, March 2004, p. 42
[3] While Open Doors ascribes the persecution of Christians in these five nations to "Dictatorial Paranoia," considering that they are all overwhelmingly Muslim majority, it seems reasonable to conclude that Islam is at least partially responsible. Open Doors itself notes that "There is a grassroots revival of Islam in Central Asia, and that means more pressure from the nationalist pro-Islamic governments and within society—causing increased persecution levels on two fronts."
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Frank • Jan 25, 2018 at 15:31
Yet, despite this factual research, CAIR and other Muslim Brotherhood front groups facilitated by the msm have insisted that it's the Muslims in the U.S. who are being persecuted.
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SARAH A. SMITH • Jan 22, 2018 at 21:12
Mr. Ibrahim's analysis is accurate and sobering.
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Juanita Skelton • Jan 22, 2018 at 06:17
Stunning numbers, Mr. Ibrahim, in the amount and the various locations of this persecution. Thank you!
I have been persecuted from within my own natal family for my faith in Yeshua ALL my life. I have also been persecuted in various Gentile church denominations throughout the various states and localities that I have lived in right here in America. I believe true followers of Yeshua will always have to face discrimination and hostilities.It is just the degree or intensity of the persecution that differs. And, Yeshua, himself, states that it is a blessing for any follower. It is almost to be expected, at any rate. The smaller the faith-based social circle one joins, the safer and better the worship can be!
What is truly frightening is the response from law enforcement or the powers-that-be whose job it is to keep public safety paramount! Now, "hate crimes" are determined with a different "brush stroke"! Some areas here in America and across Europe, are redefining "hate crimes" and working very hard to "appease" groups who tend to foster racist ideas and actions. Some of that "appeasement" has enabled certain groups who are extremists and obviously intolerant, shall we say, to blossom and bloom. There is some sense that governing agencies want to try to appear more balanced in their response to prosecuting hate crimes. That type of balance, will always be artificial. "Quotas" and any "racial profiling" in law enforcement, propel officers into behaviors that tend to incite a PERCEPTION by any group that there is bias....and sadly that bias does exist!
Democracies will always be measuring their level of toleration against their perception of constitutional FREEDOM. Theocracies don't tend to incorporate tolerance into their constitutional legal interpretations. There is legally instituted persecution against their own Islamist citizens even more so now due to sectarian conflicts. It is all truly disturbing!!!!
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Anya1985 • Jan 21, 2018 at 17:05
All that will come from this article is another one written about how Christianity has killed in the past. People seem to willfully ignore the danger of Islam. I'm not sure why exactly. Maybe they want sharia law. It should be obvious to them that once Muslims are in the majority they push for their laws, their religion, and their views only. They really should be researching how gays, women, transgender, other religions, and non Muslims are treated in Islamic teachings. They are encouraged to take money from us or kill us period.
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Ora • Jan 21, 2018 at 16:52
If only the persecution of Christians could be blamed on the Jews or on Israel, the Western world would rise up in arms. They would not care if they were called anti-Semites. But to be labelled Islamaphobes for acting against anything Islam, is an unbearable stain for the politically correct. They must bend over backwards to prevent being called Islamaphobic. But bending over too far backwards can cause a fall, and this has already begun in some European countries.
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dkjack • Jan 21, 2018 at 15:36
The enormity of our folly in Iraq is brought home by the point about the persecution of Christians increasing after the downfall of secular leaders. An Iraqi tells this story: In his town, under Saddam, Sunni-Shiite inter-marriage was common; after Saddam's fall the same people were killing each other. (Saddam's lieutenant Tariq Aziz was a Christian.) The 9/11 mass-murderers were waging jihad on the United States, and our response was to unfetter Islamic terror.
Our early support of the Mujaheddin and later support of the travesty called the Arab Spring succeeded only in creating monsters preying on Christians, Jews and other non-Muslims worldwide.
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John Forbes • Jan 21, 2018 at 15:26
Christians all over the world are being attacked by the followers of ISLAM & yet the POPE & his Cardinals seem to have DEMENTIA and are facilitating More Muslim Immigration! This is UTTERLY astounding & I find totally inexplicable given the History of Christianity & Islam.
I believe that this POPE & all of the CARDINALS need to be DEPOSED & the EASTERN Church be given the Leadership of the CHURCH to start calling for an end to PERSECUTION of Christians all over!
I cannot understand how this ROMAN CATHOLIC CATHOLIC church can be THIS BLIND & STUPID!
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dkjack
It's not the Roman Catholic Church, it's this man, this Argentinian with his "liberation theology" from the '60s and '70s, that's the problem. Given the negative reaction amongst Catholics to his pronouncements, this pope does not speak for the Church.
Francis's saintly predecessor Benedict XVI, in a speech in 2006, quoting a Eastern church emperor: "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."
Benedict was skewered by the media for speaking the truth. "But," as one priest remarked, "like the bold prophet Jeremiah, the benign prophet Benedict will never say in this world or from the next, 'I told you so.'"
Benedict wanted to take a stand. This pope wants to tiptoe through the tulips. On the other hand Francis has said, "Anyone who does not recognize the Jewish people and the State of Israel — and their right to exist — is guilty of anti-Semitism." Since virtually every Muslim believes this, that makes virtually every Muslim an anti-Semite. Maybe being an anti-Semite isn't a big sin, according to Francis. Or maybe he's just a little confused.
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Hans Lembøl • Jan 21, 2018 at 13:46
Islam is not, as claimed by many western leaders, the religion of peace, but the religion of hatred and intolerance. Nevertheless, we have seen leaders like Obama, Justin Trudeau, Macron, Theresa May and others embrace and praise Islam, repeating like parrots that the evils committed in the name of Islam have nothing to do with Islam. They are even worse than the Islamists, as they act as traitors and Quislings.
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timothy rookey
You are totally correct! These world leaders are apologists for a religion that seeks to conquer and enslave the entire world if they can manage to pull that off. We must not allow them to achieve their evil dream. My comment is not politically correct but certainly true.
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Pastor Ed Jones • Jan 21, 2018 at 12:30
A vast archive of negative could be written about Islam. Some key points to keep in mind:
1. TAQUIYA This word is the term for allowing a Muslim to lie to an infidel and to consider it an honor if he gets away with it. Talking with a Muslim, one must assume the lie.
2. To revise the words of Churchill about Nazi Germany "Islam is either under your foot - or - AT YOUR THROAT"
3. Those who claim to be moderate or peaceful Muslims should be viewed just as Israelis viewed Sadat of Egypt in his overtures of peace to Israel - KABDEHU V'HASHDEHU . . . . RESPECT HIM, BUT SUSPECT HIM. Their silence when Islamic extremists go violent betrays their supposed peaceful intentions.
4. No country, society, or communal situation will survive if it allows Sharia Law to have any kind of practice.
Islam should be required at all times to obey the civil laws of a nation just as other religions do.
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D Cripps • Jan 21, 2018 at 10:46
The more Christians killed, the fewer remain to be persecuted. Say the number drops to 115 million because of dwindling population, I hope we will not see this touted as a sign of 'improvement' over the current 215 million. Big numbers make headlines but 'small' numbers, down into the thousands and less, may indicate just how rigorous previous persecution has been.
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Hanna • Jan 21, 2018 at 10:16
First they picked, mostly, on the Jews — in fact, they still pick on Jews — when they can, or when they have nothing better to do. Now, being being tired of picking on Jews only — too boring I guess, they are picking on Christians as well. Who are they? Many are Muslims, but there are others as well. When is it all going to end? It will end when everyone is gone — dead. What a miserable world we live live in — everyone hates everyone else. Thank you Raymond Ibrahim and Gatestone.
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J bertram • Jan 21, 2018 at 10:05
These are the facts, an inconvenient truth. How is this going to end?
The first step is for non Muslim people to stop saying that it is racist to criticise Islam. The fact is that in the UK we are heading towards blasphemy laws and there are reports of sharia courts where indigenous Englishmen have been tried with police escort. There is no debate, no democracy just forced PC and people are blindly falling into an abyss.
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Dean • Jan 21, 2018 at 08:50
So, what is the Pope doing? He speaks out for more Islamic refugees, more dialogue with extreme Muslim groups. He wants to give away Jerusalem and all of Israel (which, in effect, he is saying by opening his heart to the idea of allowing Israel to be overwhelmed by Islamic propaganda, religion, and refugees not accepted by their own many and wealthy Muslim countries,etc.). I have NEVER heard the Pope say anything about the systematic genocide and destruction taking place against Christians around the world.
If the UN, the Pope, the EU, and North American leftists do not care about Christians and Jews, then who does? Certainly not the Muslims flooding into the EU, Canada, America, etc., who are quickly inplementing sharia in the West.
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Jeff Page • Jan 21, 2018 at 07:29
This isn't exactly news, this is the reality for Christians in today's Islamic world. The goal of Islam is to convert or kill all other religions on earth. When and if the day ever comes when Western politicians see this and fully acknowledge this fact, maybe, just maybe, they will begin to understand what Islam is all about. Islam is not a religion of peace, it is far from it!
The longer the West capitulates and entertains Muslim demands, the more the Muslim demands will come. Muslims will never ever accept us for what we are, they believe that there is but one religion and it is Islam that is the true faith that everyone should be forced to accept. I'm fed up with Islam and all it represents. It is not a good or peaceful religion and should be fought against on every level until it is stamped out for the good of this world in which we live. If it isn't stamped out, there will never be peace across the world.
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diane drewry
I totally agree with your views, Jeff, but today it has become impossible, unlike in the 20th century, where we were necessary to keep political parties in power, for the indigenous Western and Northern Europeans (also Canadians and Australians) to affect change and call a halt to this monstrous population replacement. For we cannot survive an Islamic takeover when our very own Establishments, governments, judiciaries, police forces and most likely our armed forces will be used against us, not the usurpers of our lands, of our inheritance, fought for and worked for over centuries.
We effectively have no representation: the traditional, main political parties follow the same politically correct NWO aims: our nation states must be dismantled and our nations melded to make us more compliant and for a naive attempt to reduce conflicts between different peoples (though I don't think that is really a concern for them). The minority parties that courageously stand for the protection of the natives, are suppressed by our societies deeming them racists, bigots and Islamophobes for wishing to halt the impending demographic disasters awaiting us. The reasonable realists amongst us are too cowed by the onslaught of Establishment and peer opprobrium to make the move from their once former, fairly normal parties, - perhaps in the forlorn hope that they'll suddenly come to their senses.
I do not believe this huge betrayal will be overturned, their plans are well under way and we are blatantly expendable; the Muslims are their vehicle to bring about our demise. Given a choice between a society of Christian/Secular Europeans and one of an Islamic nature, composed mainly of Third Worlders from less developed and quite brutal societies, I would have thought it a no-brainer that the Europeans would be a more rational choice. There is absolutely no chance the West can co-exist with Islamists so they obviously want to deplete us.
At the end of the 2nd World War, the entire elements of the barbaric Nazi machinery of power and government was eradicated as it was clear to all decent peoples that it was a murderous inhuman cult that had no place in the 20th century. The same realisation has to occur today in relation to Islam: it has no place in the 21st century, and should never have survived this long as it's built on supremacy and violence to all who do not follow it and even for those who do.
So if we cannot effect change through the normal channels of our political systems, we Europeans who wish to preserve our children and their off-springs' futures will have to come together at a European level; we must join forces to bring about a removal of the stranglehold these politicians have over us. If we don't, then our destruction will continue to be engineered by those who deceive us that they still have our best interests at heart.
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Gene Kelly • Jan 21, 2018 at 06:57
So true and so sad--and the Pope says "there is no Muslim terrorism"--what is wrong with this man?
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CrusaderChihuahua
The previous pope spoke out against Islam. Next thing he's "retired" and we have a dhimmi pope who cosies up to Muslims, wants open borders and tells us Islam is just fine!! I'm Catholic and I don't believe this imposter. Rome chose a non-European social justice warrior who fails to see the wood for the trees. So many leaders are complicit in the death of western civilisation- Obama, Hillary Clinton, the Pope, EU, UN and many left wing politicians in power today. Then you get Trump and he's obstructed, ridiculed and lied about daily in the MSM because he tells it like it is. Listen what Julian Assange says about HRC - she's a criminal.
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Keyboard Jeneral John Tan s/o Kuppusamy Vengedamuti (Muslim Body Count: 60, 017), I have told you before and I will patiently repeat it as I recognise you are not very bright. Here it is again:
In any exchange, the onus is on the person making a claim, to support his own claims with facts and figures. It is not the onus of the other party to provide these facts and figures.
You made this claim:
"I'm glad you support moslems who shut down churches and burn temples."
Because you have no brains and no balls and are basically nothing more than a fucking clown and a loudmouthed dumbfuck, I provided you with facts and figures. I then asked you to:
1. Investigate the number of churches that have been "shut down" and "burn down" by Muslims. (As you made this claim, YOU provide these figures, not me.)
2. Work out the percentage of churches "that have been shut down and burn down by Muslims" against the 5.5 million churches in the world and let me have that percentage.
Don't vomit out links and hide behind them to avoid answering simple questions. Show some fucking basic respect for yourself if you want to stop being mocked, ridiculed and treated like a brainless clown and a dumbfuck. Learn to stand on your own two feet like the Muslim Slayer Extraordinaire and big, brave and heavily bemedalled Jeneral that you are. If your flying unicorn can stand on its own feet, so can you.
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Run for your lives loonies!!! Keyboard Jeneral John Tan s/o Kuppusamy Vengedamuti's unicorn is suffering from morning sickness after he slipped not just his hand into her arse last night to retrieve his calculator, but took the opportunity to slip something else in as his wife is having her period.
Jeneral JT s/o Kuppusamy Vengedamuti can't protect us without his flying unicorn and its sword-sharpening horn. His fellow keyboard Jenerals are fucking useless. They have gone into hiding. They can't defend us.
Run for your lives!!!! Leave everything behind. Faster run! Faster, faster! Faiti, faiti!
"PA-fucking P", please help us. Help!!! Someone please help!!! The mooslims! They're heeere!
Fuck the mozzies. They should all be banished to African continent and stay put with the niggers
After u take ur medication then i will talk to u. But i think it wont be long i will also start ignoring u. Wasting too much of my precious time. All repeated post/discussion. Yaawnnn....
No use. Troublemakers warmongers like US is everywhere.
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