that's why I said lots of different types. some extreme this way some extreme that way. best to use one's own mind. after all the people I've spoken to, the only conclusion I can draw is that a Muslim's idea of being Muslim is largely local to their local network. Go another town will get a different answer. So that's why I say cannot group all together.
IMO, googling is useless for me, usually get one biased opinion of some loudmouth or another. Best I ask a regular person who lives a regular life. This cut and paste stuff can end up with some crazy shit.