How Will The PAP Respond?

[Leongsam]

Here the people are saying, don't do so much for the FT/FW, giving them free rides on the Singapore Flyer and NDP tickets which our own citizens 
have to queue up overnight for. Also those scholarships and places in the local universities given to foreigners, depriving local citizens of the chance of a local tertiary education. Instead they are forced to go to lousy places like OZ and NZ to get their lousy education and migrate there.

Sometimes one has to be cruel in order to be kind. Singapore society has become lazy, jaded and cynical. The evidence is here in this forum for all to see. It is necessary to inject new blood in order revitalise Singapore society and incentives have to be given to encourage this. It's part and parcel of marketing 101. It's like credit card companies offering free membership to new accounts while charging loyal clients a hefty annual fee.

Smart Singaporeans won't be forced to go overseas. In fact, they'll be given scholarships. It's the average performers that have to go abroad.

 

[Simbian]

YOG was an attempt to put Singapore on the sporting map. It shouldn't be viewed a single "failed" event. It should be taken as part of a long term strategy to promote the country internationally. There were hiccups but it was a first for Singapore and the govt should be commended for taking on the challenge and learning a few invaluable lessons along the way. It will put Singapore in good stead for the future.

Young athletes from all over the world came to Singapore. Many arrived knowing nothing about Singapore. If they left with a good impression, a seed has been planted that will benefit Singapore sometime in the future.

The PAP does not go for instant gratification. It plans for the long term. I commend Dr Vivien B for a job well done.

Oh now you are simply reaching and trying to spin the whole thing into something positive. The failure of YOG to draw crowds just that - the failure to draw crowds. They essentially expected working adults take leave on a working week to go watch youths to compete against each other. To me, it was an utter failure to comprehend the fact that people had better things to do with their time and money than watch an event that had no established reputation and brand name. As for YOG budget fiasco, the public were using the issue to smack VB in the face for his comments on assistance money - i.e. they could spend money on helping Kenya (or was it Jamaica?) to build some stadium so far off yet couldn't spare the money to assist needy Singaporeans.

Frankly if they wanted to put Singapore on the map for sporting events, they should have started with smaller events and long term campaigns in order to build up the local sporting culture, marketing expertise, etc. What they were trying to do is like Mah Bow Tan becoming the Singapore FA advisor and boldly proclaiming that Singapore will aim to go to World Cup then throw the whole thing under the bus once the political sound bites were over.

 

[Leongsam]

Oh now you are simply reaching and trying to spin the whole thing into something positive. The failure of YOG to draw crowds just that - the failure to draw crowds. They essentially expected working adults take leave on a working week to go watch youths to compete against each other. To me, it was an utter failure to comprehend the fact that people had better things to do with their time and money than watch an event that had no established reputation and brand name. As for YOG budget fiasco, the public were using the issue to smack VB in the face for his comments on assistance money - i.e. they could spend money on helping Kenya (or was it Jamaica?) to build some stadium so far off yet couldn't spare the money to assist needy Singaporeans.

Frankly if they wanted to put Singapore on the map for sporting events, they should have started with smaller events and long term campaigns in order to build up the local sporting culture, marketing expertise, etc. What they were trying to do is like Mah Bow Tan becoming the Singapore FA advisor and boldly proclaiming that Singapore will aim to go to World Cup then throw the whole thing under the bus once the political sound bites were over.

Criticism is easy. It's easy for those who do nothing but comment from the sidelines. The govt meant well and their intentions are honorable. Could they have done better? With the benefit of hindsight, it's easy to see where. However, if you don't try, you'll never know.

As for throwing money to help lazy, good-for-nothing Singaporeans, I have already made my views known. The Jamaicans will definitely put a stadium to better use than Singaporeans would. If it sells the Singapore brand in Jamaica, it's money well spent.

 

[TracyTan866]

Oh now you are simply reaching and trying to spin the whole thing into something positive. The failure of YOG to draw crowds just that - the failure to draw crowds. They essentially expected working adults take leave on a working week to go watch youths to compete against each other. To me, it was an utter failure to comprehend the fact that people had better things to do with their time and money than watch an event that had no established reputation and brand name. As for YOG budget fiasco, the public were using the issue to smack VB in the face for his comments on assistance money - i.e. they could spend money on helping Kenya (or was it Jamaica?) to build some stadium so far off yet couldn't spare the money to assist needy Singaporeans.

Frankly if they wanted to put Singapore on the map for sporting events, they should have started with smaller events and long term campaigns in order to build up the local sporting culture, marketing expertise, etc. What they were trying to do is like Mah Bow Tan becoming the Singapore FA advisor and boldly proclaiming that Singapore will aim to go to World Cup then throw the whole thing under the bus once the political sound bites were over.

Agree. It was a clear case of bad planning and poor management by MCYS, etc

 

[TracyTan866]

Criticism is easy. It's easy for those who do nothing but comment from the sidelines. The govt meant well and their intentions are honorable. Could they have done better? With the benefit of hindsight, it's easy to see where. However, if you don't try, you'll never know.

As for throwing money to help lazy, good-for-nothing Singaporeans, I have already made my views known. The Jamaicans will definitely put a stadium to better use than Singaporeans would. If it sells the Singapore brand in Jamaica, it's money well spent.

Intentions are a dime a dozen. How many more bad decisions by the pap shd Singaporeans condone? If they want to blow their own trumpet and praises, they better live up to what they glorify themselves to be.

 

[Seee3]

... continue sharing your insights...

Thank you for not minding my babbling. Wish to share another of my idle thoughts.

In the press statement, PO talk about trust in the public service. Trust comes from credibility which is hard to achieve but easy to lose. They lost the initiative as the Chinese press leaked the news first. Not being the first gives the impression that there might be attempt to cover up. Skepticism expressed by the public in recent events showed eroding credibility in the eyes of many. It appeared that their PR method for handling mini-crisis is outdated in this internet age. I have been wondering what the negative effects will be if the press release for the mrt case was : "The CEO has taken responsibility and resigned" (no one dare to become CEO?) Won't many be more pleased that the top person has been made accountable and responded appropriately.

Being more forthright will improve credibility. In the current incident, it was reported that news was already going around in SCDF in early Jan. Since the tail is already out of the bag, it may be better to come clean and be the first to inform, provide more details and stop giving neutral statement on the culprits. Current state invites speculations from newspapers and private individuals and is not helpful.

 

[mojito]

Young athletes from all over the world came to Singapore. Many arrived knowing nothing about Singapore. If they left with a good impression, a seed has been planted that will benefit Singapore sometime in the future.

Just what sort of seed and what sort of benefit and when do you reckon it will materialize, oh wise keeper of the Agora?

EDIT: Oops... saw the follow on posts.

 

[TracyTan866]

In the press statement, PO talk about trust in the public service. Trust comes from credibility which is hard to achieve but easy to lose. They lost the initiative as the Chinese press leaked the news first. Not being the first gives the impression that there might be attempt to cover up. Skepticism expressed by the public in recent events showed eroding credibility in the eyes of many. It appeared that their PR method for handling mini-crisis is outdated in this internet age. I have been wondering what the negative effects will be if the press release for the mrt case was : "The CEO has taken responsibility and resigned" (no one dare to become CEO?) Won't many be more pleased that the top person has been made accountable and responded appropriately.

Being more forthright will improve credibility. In the current incident, it was reported that news was already going around in SCDF in early Jan. Since the tail is already out of the bag, it may be better to come clean and be the first to inform, provide more details and stop giving neutral statement on the culprits. Current state invites speculations from newspapers and private individuals and is not helpful.

Good analysis.

This episode smells of great reluctance to come clean with the news. MHA and its public statements didnt say anything that SCDF staff didnt know. In fact they know more than what the statements said.

Also the pap suffered because the newspaper was the first to come out with the news. I wonder whether any media person will be rebuked?

So how can the pap build trust like that?

 

[zhihau]

Since the tail is already out of the bag, it may be better to come clean and be the first to inform, provide more details and stop giving neutral statement on the culprits.

me always thought that all are innocent until proven guilty in the court of law :o:o:o

 

[TracyTan866]

me always thought that all are innocent until proven guilty in the court of law :o:o:o

You are right and wise...but do u see that being practised by SG Court?

 

[Leongsam]

Intentions are a dime a dozen. How many more bad decisions by the pap shd Singaporeans condone? If they want to blow their own trumpet and praises, they better live up to what they glorify themselves to be.

Unfortunately, when it comes to Singapore, intentions that are actually acted upon are NOT a dime a dozen. They are few and far between.

There are very few Singaporeans who have actually done anything worthwhile in this world. All they do is criticise those who attempt to make a difference.

The Singapore government has definitely made mistakes but they have also been wildly successful in many areas. If it wasn't for the government having to take the leadership, Singapore would still be a backwater as there are very few citizens who are willing to take risks.

 

[TracyTan866]

If it wasn't for the government having to take the leadership, Singapore would still be a backwater as there are very few citizens who are willing to take risks.

That's pure speculation.

Would SG be better under Lim Chin Siong or Ong Eng Guan or LKY?

 

[TracyTan866]

The Singapore government has definitely made mistakes but they have also been wildly successful in many areas.

So do other govts. So what's so great abt the pap? They are just like other govts.

Dont believe me? Just look at what Susilo Bambang is doing in Indonesia. LHL pales in comparison

 

[TracyTan866]

Unfortunately, when it comes to Singapore, intentions that are actually acted upon are NOT a dime a dozen. They are few and far between.

There are very few Singaporeans who have actually done anything worthwhile in this world. All they do is criticise those who attempt to make a difference.

The Singapore government has definitely made mistakes but they have also been wildly successful in many areas. If it wasn't for the government having to take the leadership, Singapore would still be a backwater as there are very few citizens who are willing to take risks.

If you have travelled extensively, you will know that LHL is a nobody on the international stage and he is just a small frog in a well...it's only myopic people who thinks highly of LHL and the pap

 

[Leongsam]

If you have travelled extensively, you will know that LHL is a nobody on the international stage and he is just a small frog in a well...it's only myopic people who thinks highly of LHL and the pap

Singapore is a small country but it punches well above its weight.

LHL is a humble man. He doesn't seek publicity. He's dedicated to quietly improving the lives of Singaporeans.

 

[TracyTan866]

Singapore is a small country but it punches well above its weight.

That's what the pap believe and their dogs mouth the same tune

 

[Leongsam]

Dont believe me? Just look at what Susilo Bambang is doing in Indonesia. LHL pales in comparison

Not where it matters :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

Singapore ranks number 1 with an index of 2.60 (deaths/1,000 live births)

Indonesia ranks 117 with an index of 34.81.

Don't make airy fairy statements. If you want to criticise Singapore, show me your facts. All you're doing is making subjective statements just because you happen to have taken a dislike to the PAP. As you have already admitted, you allow your heart to rule your head. That's why you can't make rational and factual comments. It's all about how you feel rather than an actual description of the reality of life in Singapore.

 

[TracyTan866]

Singapore is a small country but it punches well above its weight.

Israel, HK, Belgium, Switzerland, Denmark, etc didnt have to resort to such propaganda. My goose pimples stand when I hear people repeating what they hear from the pap

 

[Leongsam]

That's what the pap believe and their dogs mouth the same tune

I have facts and figures. All you have is your opinion.

 

[TracyTan866]

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LHL is a humble man. He doesn't seek publicity. He's dedicated to quietly improving the lives of Singaporeans.

If you know LHL, you wont say things like that...he is an awkward guy in public.

LHL's only aim is to grow GDP at all costs including marginalising Singaporeans. Is that improving lives of Singaporeans? Now you know why Singaporeans are so against the pap