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这些来自明朝的移民到达琉球后,在那霸港附近的浮岛上建立了久米村,并定居于此。闽人三十六姓多为航海家、学者或其他拥有一技之长的人,他们的后裔世代负责航海、造船、外交文书的编写、翻译、对华贸易等事务,因此在琉球社会中地位较高。从闽人三十六姓迁居琉球,到琉球被日本兼并的五百年期间,闽人三十六姓的后裔多出任琉球王府的外交官,琉球进贡使团的正议大夫、中议大夫多为闽人三十六姓后裔担任。
After the immigrants from the Ming Dynasty arrived at Ryukyu, they established Kumi Village on the floating island near Naha Port and settled here. The hokkiens are mostly navigators, scholars or other people who have the skills. Their descendants are responsible for navigation, shipbuilding, writing of diplomatic documents, translation, trade with China, etc., and therefore have a higher status in the Ryukyu society. During the 500 years since the hokkiens moved to Ryukyu, to the time when Ryukyu was annexed by Japan, the descendants of the 36 surname hokkiens were the diplomats of the Ryukyu Palace, and the deputy doctor and the veteran doctor of the Ryukyu tribute mission. For the descendants of the thirty-six surnames.
 
The first hokkien emperror of japan , jinmu tenno

220px-Tennō_Jimmu_detail_01.jpg


According to mythology, Japan's first Emperor Jimmu was enthroned in the year 660 BC. While the myths are not considered historically accurate, it is a commonly accepted fact that emperors have reigned over Japan for more than 1500 years, and that they have all descended from the same imperial family.

Emperor Jimmu was the first Emperor of Japan according to the traditional order of succession and he was called was Jinmu tenno 神武天皇 in kanji. Kanji was in hokkien so it is natural that his original name would in hokkien too.

Jinmu tenno 神武天皇 -

Shin bu thee ong (hokkien)
in mandarin 神 - shen
in cantonese - shan
in hokkien - shin

Not surprising too that sky king 天皇 in his royal name was pronounced phonetically after hokkien too. To clear out any confusion, there was no differentiation between emperor and king in ancient time .Wang was earlier pronunciation of huang.

In mandarin, 天皇 - tian wang
in cantonese and hakka - tin wong
in hokkien - thee o ng(a negligible slang)

Only japanese pronuciation of o is similar to the prnunciation of hokkien of ong. In hokkien the pronuciation of ong/hang/ ang is voiced as a big o followed dimly by slang of ng. Whether the latter articulation of ng is pronounced does not matter as it is just a slang. Clearly the pronuciation of jinmu tenno was in hokkien as other dialects are slightly different in intonation.

Xu fu (hok / blessed) was the the first emperor jimmu

Emperor Qin Shihuang sent out Xu Fu. After traveling for a while on the sea, Xu Fu came back and told Emperor Qinshihuang there was a flood dragon in the water that kept him from the mountain. The emperor set out to sea by himself. When his ship came to a small island, he came across a big fish. Emperor Qinshihuang killed it and believed there would be no more obstacles on the way to the mountain. But, Xu Fu still did not bring back the immortal grass and didn't dare see the emperor again. Instead, he decided to bring the 3,000 boys and girls and the craftsmen to Japan. In the end, Xu Fu died at the foot of the Fuji Mountain.

There are many stories and historical records about Xu Fu in Japan. Some scholars speculate that Xu Fu was the legendary Jimmu Tenno. Japanese people worship him as an ancestor and there are even sites of Xu Fu's tomb, Xu Fu's palace and Xu Fu's cliff. In 1991, a park named after Xu Fu was opened in a Japanese city. People worship him every autumn and hold a grand ceremony every 50 years.

Relationship between him and qin( 秦朝) and the aryan demigods.


According to Shinto belief, Jimmu is regarded as a direct descendant of the sun goddess, Amaterasu.Amaterasu had a son called Ame no Oshihomimi no Mikoto and through him a grandson named Ninigi-no-Mikoto. She sent her grandson to the Japanese islands where he eventually married Konohana-Sakuya-hime.

Similar legends was told in the history of qin where the son of qin shi huang defected to island of penglai which is japan today and both regarded themselves as 'came from god' (shin/ jin) . The han ji of Qin is 秦 which basically is qin dynasty but the original form of qin before the liquidation of traditional character and introduction of simplified chinese was qin - shin 神 in hokkien. That means that both qin and jin/ shin in japanese were originally meant to relate to demigod race which bring its relation to the aryan that they once were before migration to the far east.

The name 'Qin' (pronounced as 'Chin') is believed to be the etymological ancestor of the modern-day European name of the country, China. The word probably made its way into the Indo-Aryan languages first as 'Cina' or 'Sina' and then into Greek and Latin as 'Sinai' or 'Thinai.It was then transliterated into English and French as 'China' and 'Chine'. This etymology is dismissed by some scholars, who suggest that 'Sina' in Sanskrit evolved much earlier before the Qin dynasty. 'Jin' (pronounced as 'Zhin').

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Dynasty Cina - Sina - shin ah 神啊

The hokkien pronunciation of cina is sin ah which means god ah corresponds to Japanese mythology of legends that the origin of the first emperor of japan was from sun god amaterasu in which the sun god derived its existence from the aryan race of demigods as told like in bible where the demigods who were son of gods who had relations with daughters of men was punished to an earthly life !

Sinai - shin lai 神来 (came from god)


The biblical Mount Sinai (cina) was one of the most important sacred places in the Abrahamic religions where it was the moutain where God gave laws to the Israelites
 
Ya why hokkiens again? Maciam whole China got no other talented people to uproot except hokkiens. Obviously another sabotage by Ming emperor.
Just like me last time kena sabotaged put to do clear shit job when I was just junior accountant and so many senior accountants around. Isn’t it?
 
Just like me last time kena sabotaged put to do clear shit job when I was just junior accountant and so many senior accountants around. Isn’t it?

And who is that evil VP big boss that did that? Ccb Cantonese woman. Luckily superior Hokkiens like me are persistent and hardworking and did an awesome job clearing shit PLUS heaven also watching out for me to create business meeting opportunities for me to travel to USA Europe until Russia and so many people are jealous of my travels hahaha
 
Hahaha aiyo these Hokkiens really make a fool of themselves ah! Anyhow claim this and that! Aiya I have no words bro. No words at all! Hahaha. :roflmao:
 
And who is that evil VP big boss that did that? Ccb Cantonese woman. Luckily superior Hokkiens like me are persistent and hardworking and did an awesome job clearing shit PLUS heaven also watching out for me to create business meeting opportunities for me to travel to USA Europe until Russia and so many people are jealous of my travels hahaha
Lowly people are all the same ccb pattern, isn’t it? Always deceitful. Dare not reveal themselves and their true intention wheh they do evil to others.
 
Hahaha aiyo these Hokkiens really make a fool of themselves ah! Anyhow claim this and that! Aiya I have no words bro. No words at all! Hahaha. :roflmao:
Considering how shameless hokkeins are.. They will wear it with pride even if it's grasping at straws
 
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@ginfreely, happy I found evidence for your hokkien ancestry in Jipun? :D
You are doing another deceitful lie as usual. This was posted in ccb Malaysian lowyat forum and you dare not reveal the source. My Hokkien posts are all based on facts. Don’t try to link me to any dubious claims of gods to discredit them. So evil Hakka Cantonese son of whore. Pui!
 
Considering how shameless hokkeins are.. They will wear it with pride even if it's grasping at straws

You are so shameless and jealous of hokkens to call all facts of solid hokkien achievements that I posted as straws.
 
You are doing another deceitful lie as usual. This was posted in ccb Malaysian lowyat forum and you dare not reveal the source. My Hokkien posts are all based on facts. Don’t try to link me to any dubious claims of gods to discredit them. So evil Hakka Cantonese son of whore. Pui!
Wow..You must be a Lowyet forummer.:D
 
The first hokkien emperror of japan , jinmu tenno

220px-Tennō_Jimmu_detail_01.jpg


According to mythology, Japan's first Emperor Jimmu was enthroned in the year 660 BC. While the myths are not considered historically accurate, it is a commonly accepted fact that emperors have reigned over Japan for more than 1500 years, and that they have all descended from the same imperial family.

Emperor Jimmu was the first Emperor of Japan according to the traditional order of succession and he was called was Jinmu tenno 神武天皇 in kanji. Kanji was in hokkien so it is natural that his original name would in hokkien too.

Jinmu tenno 神武天皇 -

Shin bu thee ong (hokkien)
in mandarin 神 - shen
in cantonese - shan
in hokkien - shin

Not surprising too that sky king 天皇 in his royal name was pronounced phonetically after hokkien too. To clear out any confusion, there was no differentiation between emperor and king in ancient time .Wang was earlier pronunciation of huang.

In mandarin, 天皇 - tian wang
in cantonese and hakka - tin wong
in hokkien - thee o ng(a negligible slang)

Only japanese pronuciation of o is similar to the prnunciation of hokkien of ong. In hokkien the pronuciation of ong/hang/ ang is voiced as a big o followed dimly by slang of ng. Whether the latter articulation of ng is pronounced does not matter as it is just a slang. Clearly the pronuciation of jinmu tenno was in hokkien as other dialects are slightly different in intonation.

Xu fu (hok / blessed) was the the first emperor jimmu

Emperor Qin Shihuang sent out Xu Fu. After traveling for a while on the sea, Xu Fu came back and told Emperor Qinshihuang there was a flood dragon in the water that kept him from the mountain. The emperor set out to sea by himself. When his ship came to a small island, he came across a big fish. Emperor Qinshihuang killed it and believed there would be no more obstacles on the way to the mountain. But, Xu Fu still did not bring back the immortal grass and didn't dare see the emperor again. Instead, he decided to bring the 3,000 boys and girls and the craftsmen to Japan. In the end, Xu Fu died at the foot of the Fuji Mountain.

There are many stories and historical records about Xu Fu in Japan. Some scholars speculate that Xu Fu was the legendary Jimmu Tenno. Japanese people worship him as an ancestor and there are even sites of Xu Fu's tomb, Xu Fu's palace and Xu Fu's cliff. In 1991, a park named after Xu Fu was opened in a Japanese city. People worship him every autumn and hold a grand ceremony every 50 years.

Relationship between him and qin( 秦朝) and the aryan demigods.

According to Shinto belief, Jimmu is regarded as a direct descendant of the sun goddess, Amaterasu.Amaterasu had a son called Ame no Oshihomimi no Mikoto and through him a grandson named Ninigi-no-Mikoto. She sent her grandson to the Japanese islands where he eventually married Konohana-Sakuya-hime.

Similar legends was told in the history of qin where the son of qin shi huang defected to island of penglai which is japan today and both regarded themselves as 'came from god' (shin/ jin) . The han ji of Qin is 秦 which basically is qin dynasty but the original form of qin before the liquidation of traditional character and introduction of simplified chinese was qin - shin 神 in hokkien. That means that both qin and jin/ shin in japanese were originally meant to relate to demigod race which bring its relation to the aryan that they once were before migration to the far east.

The name 'Qin' (pronounced as 'Chin') is believed to be the etymological ancestor of the modern-day European name of the country, China. The word probably made its way into the Indo-Aryan languages first as 'Cina' or 'Sina' and then into Greek and Latin as 'Sinai' or 'Thinai.It was then transliterated into English and French as 'China' and 'Chine'. This etymology is dismissed by some scholars, who suggest that 'Sina' in Sanskrit evolved much earlier before the Qin dynasty. 'Jin' (pronounced as 'Zhin').

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Dynasty Cina - Sina - shin ah 神啊

The hokkien pronunciation of cina is sin ah which means god ah corresponds to Japanese mythology of legends that the origin of the first emperor of japan was from sun god amaterasu in which the sun god derived its existence from the aryan race of demigods as told like in bible where the demigods who were son of gods who had relations with daughters of men was punished to an earthly life !

Sinai - shin lai 神来 (came from god)

The biblical Mount Sinai (cina) was one of the most important sacred places in the Abrahamic religions where it was the moutain where God gave laws to the Israelites
Talk cock like the MIWs.
 
Lowly people are all the same ccb pattern, isn’t it? Always deceitful. Dare not reveal themselves and their true intention wheh they do evil to others.
Looks like my good hokkien threads are always buried by evil shit done by these deceitful people that are always riding on the coat tails of hokkien achievements classified under CHINESE.
 
Looks like my good hokkien threads are always buried by evil shit done by these deceitful people that are always riding on the coat tails of hokkien achievements classified under CHINESE.

Poor Hokkiens indeed. All our achievements become known as CHINESE achievements when the chinese from Cantonese to northern chinese dislike hokkiens as evident in this forum and others.
 
If China ever one day claim back Okinawa, CCP don’t forget to thank hokkiens ok?
Ya hokkiens helped to develop the kingdom while japs did nothing before claiming Okinawa as theirs. Again it’s a fact and not empty talk.
 
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