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1) " To be sold as pets? Wonder anyone would like to keep a mule as his or her pet "?

why not ? if ppl can pet elephant , tiger even ants ( yes , ants ) as pet why not mule ? is your brain really that small ?


2) " You have written to tell people of "beastialism", I really hope you didn't go to far into it, please. Are you pro-beastialism, anti-beastialism, or are you neutral? What's in your mind? We are already evil enough. Don't make it more evil".


are you high on LSD while reading your storybook ? since when i said im pro-beastialism or against beastialism ? i just mention some men/women DO get involved with other animals. (not just chimps either) It is called 'beastality'" . but if you want to get involved with animals i wont stop you either .
So you are not against beastialism! So, horrible..,,,,many secular laws even against homosexual let alone beastialism and you are not against! Beastialsm is one of the highest forms of man's evilness and you are not against, nothing then can convince you that God exists.

You have missed your point....we are discussing about evolultion vs creation....what this has to do with women partying....what's in your brain? That is the point....and what to do with beastalism....what's in your brain! Nothing but dirt!
 
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3) " When animals cross-breed, the offsprings are usually weaker and suffer infirmity like infertility "

who told you that ? not all offspring will turn out to be weaker or infertility , it depends ..if not how breeder continue to breed those with cross-breed genes to sell ...rememeber its demand and supply ? you are talking through your ass again . ......

You are really a clown....go and check with your Japanese animal-breeders. It's scientifically proven. Cross-breeding of different animals even though they are from same species can dilute the pure gene of the animals and the offsprings of cross-bred animals are likely to suffer in terms of their health, their physcial functions, their reproduction ability, especially when the aulterated genes of the offsprings mate with other animals and produce future offsprings that are going to be inferior in many aspects. This is such a common proven scientific facts and still don't know. Call yourself animal breeder with 15 yrs' experience! Even animals and beasts themselves know all these because of the God-given instinct that has become part of their reproduction habit. That's why animals which are left in the wild don't go around and cross-bred. The law of nature (that is God's law) dictates that they kept the gene pure. Evil man has done things worst than animals. So simple also don't understand. No wonder you cannot understand what Bible tells you!
 
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1) " To be sold as pets? Wonder anyone would like to keep a mule as his or her pet "?

why not ? if ppl can pet elephant , tiger even ants ( yes , ants ) as pet why not mule ? is your brain really that small ?


2) " You have written to tell people of "beastialism", I really hope you didn't go to far into it, please. Are you pro-beastialism, anti-beastialism, or are you neutral? What's in your mind? We are already evil enough. Don't make it more evil".


are you high on LSD while reading your storybook ? since when i said im pro-beastialism or against beastialism ? i just mention some men/women DO get involved with other animals. (not just chimps either) It is called 'beastality'" . but if you want to get involved with animals i wont stop you either .
So you are not against beastialism! So, horrible..,,,,many secular laws even against homosexual let alone beastialism and you are not against! Beastialsm is one of the highest forms of man's evilness and you are not against, nothing then can convince you that God exists.

You have missed your point....we are discussing about evolultion vs creation....what this has to do with women partying....what's in your brain? That is the point....and what to do with beastalism....what's in your brain! Nothing but dirt!


1) " So you are not against beastialism! So, horrible..,,,,many secular laws even against homosexual let alone beastialism and you are not against "

i got no comments on beastialism ..if you are into it ...please go ahead and hide behide close door ...your god created beastialism since you said everything is created by your invisibleman ...so are you going to question him ? ;) by the way who care whose going to do what behind close door ...as long as they are not going to preach in public to promote beastialism like what you are promoting delusion in public ..who cares . oh ..i forgot i thought your invisibleman going to give ppl choice ;)


2) You have missed your point....we are discussing about evolultion vs creation....what this has to do with women partying....what's in your brain? That is the point....and what to do with beastalism....what's in your brain! Nothing but dirt! "

what is dirt ...a pastor who abuse child sexually is a dirty old man or im using beastalism and hen party as a example ? ;) you really got to check your brain . you want to talk about evolution ? do you know what is evolution in the first place ? ;)

Evolution has been proven as much as gravity, thermodynamics, erosion or continiental shift is. however, i take it that what you mean is that "we have not witness evolution taking place, thus it cannot be proven".

nothing in the real world can be proved with absolute certainty. however, high degrees of certainty can be reached. in the case of evolution, we have huge amounts of data from diverse fields. extensive evidence exists in all of the following different forms (Theobald 2004). each new piece of evidence tests the rest.

1. all life shows a fundamental unity in the mechanisms of replication, heritability, catalysis, and metabolism.

2. common descent predicts a nested hierarchy pattern, or groups within groups. we see just such an arrangement in a unique, consistent, well-defined hierarchy, the so-called tree of life.

3. different lines of evidence give the same arrangement of the tree of life. we get essentially the same results whether we look at morphological, biochemical, or genetic traits.

4. fossil animals fit in the same tree of life. we can find several cases of transitional forms in the fossil record.

5. the fossils appear in a chronological order, showing change consistent with common descent over hundreds of millions of years and inconsistent with sudden creation.
many organisms show rudimentary, vestigial characters, such as sightless eyes or wings useless for flight.

6. atavisms sometimes occur. an atavism is the reappearance of a character present in a distant ancestor but lost in the organism's immediate ancestors. we only see atavisms consistent with organisms' evolutionary histories.

7. ontogeny (embryology and developmental biology) gives information about the historical pathway of an organism's evolution. for example, as embryos whales and many snakes develop hind limbs that are reabsorbed before birth.

8. the distribution of species is consistent with their evolutionary history. for example, marsupials are mostly limited to australia, and the exceptions are explained by continental drift. remote islands often have species groups that are highly diverse in habits and general appearance but closely related genetically. squirrel diversity coincides with tectonic and sea level changes (Mercer and Roth 2003). Such consistency still holds when the distribution of fossil species is included.

9. evolution predicts that new structures are adapted from other structures that already exist, and thus similarity in structures should reflect evolutionary history rather than function. we see this frequently. for example, human hands, bat wings, horse legs, whale flippers, and mole forelimbs all have similar bone structure despite their different functions.

10. the same principle applies on a molecular level. humans share a large percentage of their genes, probably more than 70 percent, with a fruit fly or a nematode worm.
when two organisms evolve the same function independently, different structures are often recruited. for example, wings of birds, bats, pterosaurs, and insects all have different structures. gliding has been implemented in many additional ways. again, this applies on a molecular level, too.

11. the constraints of evolutionary history sometimes lead to suboptimal structures and functions. for example, the human throat and respiratory system make it impossible to breathe and swallow at the same time and make us susceptible to choking.
suboptimality appears also on the molecular level. for example, much DNA is nonfunctional.

12. some nonfunctional DNA, such as certain transposons, pseudogenes, and endogenous viruses, show a pattern of inheritance indicating common ancestry. speciation has been observed.

13. the day-to-day aspects of evolution -- heritable genetic change, morphological variation and change, functional change, and natural selection -- are seen to occur at rates consistent with common descent.

furthermore, the different lines of evidence are consistent; they all point to the same big picture. for example, evidence from gene duplications in the yeast genome shows that its ability to ferment glucose evolved about eighty million years ago. fossil evidence shows that fermentable fruits became prominent about the same time. genetic evidence for major change around that time also is found in fruiting plants and fruit flies .

the evidence is extensive and consistent, and it points unambiguously to evolution, including common descent, change over time, and adaptation influenced by natural selection. It would be preposterous to refer to these as anything other than facts.

to dismiss evolution based it is an arguement from ignorance, and a strawman fallacy. most of the the different fields of research has supported the theory of evolution.

at least, all of these made more sense than someone creating the universe in 6 days, and "breathing" some life into sand or clay models to create humans ;)




this is more evil ...Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
John 15:20 20Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
Jeremiah 17:18 Let them be confounded that persecute me, but let not me be confounded: let them be dismayed, but let not me be dismayed: bring upon them the day of evil, and destroy them with double destruction.
 
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.....i got no comments on beastialism ........

You have no opinion and that tells alot, alot about you....

I have. It is against God's law and must be severely punished. Almost every country has prescibred capital punishment or life-imprisonment for anyone who committed this crime of beastalism, and you have no opinion! Really it tells people alot, alot about you and your belief. If you have no opinion of this how could you have opinion on other people's religious belief. Anyone who believe what you say must be mad,

Beastalism is one of the highest forms of human evilness. As God's created being, we have God's given conscience to express against this ultra-sinful act. You can remove capital punishment or life-imprisonment relating to all other offences or crimes, but not this one. Offenders must be severely punished. Still no opinion on this?

We are discussing about evolution and creation and you bring this completely unrelated topic. What's in your mind?
 
You have no opinion and that tells alot, alot about you....

I have. It is against God's law and must be severely punished. Almost every country has prescibred capital punishment or life-imprisonment for anyone who committed this crime of beastalism, and you have no opinion! Really it tells people alot, alot about you and your belief. If you have no opinion of this how could you have opinion on other people's religious belief. Anyone who believe what you say must be mad,

Beastalism is one of the highest forms of human evilness. As God's created being, we have God's given conscience to express against this ultra-sinful act. You can remove capital punishment or life-imprisonment relating to all other offences or crimes, but not this one. Offenders must be severely punished. Still no opinion on this?

We are discussing about evolution and creation and you bring this completely unrelated topic. What's in your mind?


1) " You have no opinion and that tells alot, alot about you....I have. It is against God's law and must be severely punished. Almost every country has prescibred capital punishment or life-imprisonment for anyone who committed this crime of beastalism, and you have no opinion! Really it tells people alot, alot about you and your belief. If you have no opinion of this how could you have opinion on other people's religious belief. Anyone who believe what you say must be mad . "



are you stupid or what ? what other ppl do behind close door is other ppl business ..as long as they dont tell the whole world and promote beastalism in public is fine with me ..dont your invisibleman tell you you got choice ? of course its my business if you promote your stupidlity and infected human brain with some kind of fairy tales in public ....like what you do here ...every sentence you post you will injected the invisibleman ...everything got to do with the invisibleman ...you are the one who is crazy here .


2) " We are discussing about evolution and creation and you bring this completely unrelated topic. What's in your mind " ?


as i say just now ...you keep talking about your invisibleman and you argue for the sake of arguing and you totally make no sense in your delusional statement . and now you want to talk about decent debate on evolution ?
 
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Religion - any major religion is like this, a religion gathers a wide following owing not only to the merits of its teachings, but more importantly to the efforts and the work of their diciples in propagating that religion. thus Christianity became widespread because some roman emperor was a patron. buddhism became more than just a sect because a prince regent became a buddhist. islam became a major religion because muhammed started a military empire.

the spread of a religion is something that can be subjected to scientific analysis
 
Religion - any major religion is like this, a religion gathers a wide following owing not only to the merits of its teachings, but more importantly to the efforts and the work of their diciples in propagating that religion. thus Christianity became widespread because some roman emperor was a patron. buddhism became more than just a sect because a prince regent became a buddhist. islam became a major religion because muhammed started a military empire.

the spread of a religion is something that can be subjected to scientific analysis
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please watch and more of this guy to dig deep and find some answers God willing.
 
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this is the second part
 
1) " To be sold as pets? Wonder anyone would like to keep a mule as his or her pet "?

why not ? if ppl can pet elephant , tiger even ants ( yes , ants ) as pet why not mule ? is your brain really that small ?


2) " You have written to tell people of "beastialism", I really hope you didn't go to far into it, please. Are you pro-beastialism, anti-beastialism, or are you neutral? What's in your mind? We are already evil enough. Don't make it more evil".


are you high on LSD while reading your storybook ? since when i said im pro-beastialism or against beastialism ? i just mention some men/women DO get involved with other animals. (not just chimps either) It is called 'beastality'" . but if you want to get involved with animals i wont stop you either .


1) " So you are not against beastialism! So, horrible..,,,,many secular laws even against homosexual let alone beastialism and you are not against "

i got no comments on beastialism ..if you are into it ...please go ahead and hide behide close door ...your god created beastialism since you said everything is created by your invisibleman ...so are you going to question him ? ;) by the way who care whose going to do what behind close door ...as long as they are not going to preach in public to promote beastialism like what you are promoting delusion in public ..who cares . oh ..i forgot i thought your invisibleman going to give ppl choice ;)


2) You have missed your point....we are discussing about evolultion vs creation....what this has to do with women partying....what's in your brain? That is the point....and what to do with beastalism....what's in your brain! Nothing but dirt! "

what is dirt ...a pastor who abuse child sexually is a dirty old man or im using beastalism and hen party as a example ? ;) you really got to check your brain . you want to talk about evolution ? do you know what is evolution in the first place ? ;)

Evolution has been proven as much as gravity, thermodynamics, erosion or continiental shift is. however, i take it that what you mean is that "we have not witness evolution taking place, thus it cannot be proven".

nothing in the real world can be proved with absolute certainty. however, high degrees of certainty can be reached. in the case of evolution, we have huge amounts of data from diverse fields. extensive evidence exists in all of the following different forms (Theobald 2004). each new piece of evidence tests the rest.

1. all life shows a fundamental unity in the mechanisms of replication, heritability, catalysis, and metabolism.

2. common descent predicts a nested hierarchy pattern, or groups within groups. we see just such an arrangement in a unique, consistent, well-defined hierarchy, the so-called tree of life.

3. different lines of evidence give the same arrangement of the tree of life. we get essentially the same results whether we look at morphological, biochemical, or genetic traits.

4. fossil animals fit in the same tree of life. we can find several cases of transitional forms in the fossil record.

5. the fossils appear in a chronological order, showing change consistent with common descent over hundreds of millions of years and inconsistent with sudden creation.
many organisms show rudimentary, vestigial characters, such as sightless eyes or wings useless for flight.

6. atavisms sometimes occur. an atavism is the reappearance of a character present in a distant ancestor but lost in the organism's immediate ancestors. we only see atavisms consistent with organisms' evolutionary histories.

7. ontogeny (embryology and developmental biology) gives information about the historical pathway of an organism's evolution. for example, as embryos whales and many snakes develop hind limbs that are reabsorbed before birth.

8. the distribution of species is consistent with their evolutionary history. for example, marsupials are mostly limited to australia, and the exceptions are explained by continental drift. remote islands often have species groups that are highly diverse in habits and general appearance but closely related genetically. squirrel diversity coincides with tectonic and sea level changes (Mercer and Roth 2003). Such consistency still holds when the distribution of fossil species is included.

9. evolution predicts that new structures are adapted from other structures that already exist, and thus similarity in structures should reflect evolutionary history rather than function. we see this frequently. for example, human hands, bat wings, horse legs, whale flippers, and mole forelimbs all have similar bone structure despite their different functions.

10. the same principle applies on a molecular level. humans share a large percentage of their genes, probably more than 70 percent, with a fruit fly or a nematode worm.
when two organisms evolve the same function independently, different structures are often recruited. for example, wings of birds, bats, pterosaurs, and insects all have different structures. gliding has been implemented in many additional ways. again, this applies on a molecular level, too.

11. the constraints of evolutionary history sometimes lead to suboptimal structures and functions. for example, the human throat and respiratory system make it impossible to breathe and swallow at the same time and make us susceptible to choking.
suboptimality appears also on the molecular level. for example, much DNA is nonfunctional.

12. some nonfunctional DNA, such as certain transposons, pseudogenes, and endogenous viruses, show a pattern of inheritance indicating common ancestry. speciation has been observed.

13. the day-to-day aspects of evolution -- heritable genetic change, morphological variation and change, functional change, and natural selection -- are seen to occur at rates consistent with common descent.

furthermore, the different lines of evidence are consistent; they all point to the same big picture. for example, evidence from gene duplications in the yeast genome shows that its ability to ferment glucose evolved about eighty million years ago. fossil evidence shows that fermentable fruits became prominent about the same time. genetic evidence for major change around that time also is found in fruiting plants and fruit flies .

the evidence is extensive and consistent, and it points unambiguously to evolution, including common descent, change over time, and adaptation influenced by natural selection. It would be preposterous to refer to these as anything other than facts.

to dismiss evolution based it is an arguement from ignorance, and a strawman fallacy. most of the the different fields of research has supported the theory of evolution.

at least, all of these made more sense than someone creating the universe in 6 days, and "breathing" some life into sand or clay models to create humans ;)


You write all these meh? I think some of the terms you don't even know yourself? A truly fake animal-breeder!
 
You write all these meh? I think some of the terms you don't even know yourself? A truly fake animal-breeder!

some of those points i found it on books ( not your kind of " storybook " ) ;) whahahaha..you cant even debate those points yet you want to talk about evolution ...its time for you to go back school . please dont snake around fucking christain terrorist mold . ;)


im a fake animal breeder ? whahahahaha ...your god is fake doest not mean everything is fake ;) do you know what is that ? its incubator for birds and reptiles ...idoit ...do you know what is incubator ? ;)

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christain terrorist ...i know you are a true idiot and i dont respect any idiot terroist ...from now onwards im going to fuck you and your invisibleman ..whenever i see your post ...


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This is my concluding message in the thread here. Thankfully (or rather unthankfully), we can now know the profiles of someone who is not just an atheist, but a “Perfect Atheist” who believes God doesn’t exist. From the last few messages we can see the some of their profiles such as:

(a) They cannot survive without using vulgar words, just like we cannot survive having our meals;

(b) Their minds are corrupt and they can only imagine vulgar pictures. Their minds truly reflect what the Bible has told us: Luke 6:45 ….an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

(c) They are insensitivity to what evilness and wickedness is all about; they even have no opinion on topics like beastialism that even most secular people will express opinion to condemn those who practice this evil deed; They call evil good and good evil;

(d) Lastly, they may be just fake animal-breeder and their knowledge of animal breeding is no better (or even worst) than those beasts in the wild which know very well that cross-breeding will dilute their pure genes/DNA; but these evil-doers are ready to participate something that even beasts themselves have flatly refused to participate.

This is what a Perfect Atheist is. Are you one of them?

Psalm23
 
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This is my concluding message in the thread here. Thankfully (or rather unthankfully), we can now know the profiles of someone who is not just an atheist, but a “Perfect Atheist” who believes God doesn’t exist. From the last few messages we can see the some of their profiles such as:

(a) They cannot survive without using vulgar words, just like we cannot survive having our meals;

(b) Their minds are corrupt and they can only imagine vulgar pictures. Their minds truly reflect what the Bible has told us: Luke 6:45 ….an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

(c) They are insensitivity to what evilness and wickedness is all about; they even have no opinion on topics like beastialism that even most secular people will express opinion to condemn those who practice this evil deed; They call evil good and good evil;

(d) Lastly, they may be just fake animal-breeder and their knowledge of animal breeding is no better (or even worst) than those beasts in the wild which know very well that cross-breeding will dilute their pure genes/DNA; but these evil-doers are ready to participate something that even beasts themselves have flatly refused to participate.

This is what a Perfect Atheist is. Are you one of them?

Psalm23

dont be too quick to jump into judgement about atheist's moral stance, look at those disgraced tv evangelists and catholic priests that are embroiled in sex scandal.

i rather have a vulgar swearing atheist that is true to himself than a religious hypocrite that preaches god's word in the day and watch porn at nights.

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-01-29/...gard-head-pastor-church-staff-member?_s=PM:US

Disgraced pastor Haggard admits second relationship with man
METHAMPHETAMINE
January 29, 2009

Pastor Ted Haggard acknowledged on CNN's "Larry King Live" that he had a second relationship with a man.

Evangelical pastor Ted Haggard described Thursday as "fundamentally true" an assertion that he engaged in an inappropriate relationship with a 20-year-old male volunteer in 2006.

The incident occurred when the two men were in bed together, Grant Haas said in a videotaped interview played on CNN's "Larry King Live."

"He pretty much asked me if it was OK if he masturbated in front of me or masturbated in the bed next to me," Haas said. "I told him no, it would make me really uncomfortable. But he grabbed a bottle of lotion and started masturbating.
 
dont be too quick to jump into judgement about atheist's moral stance, look at those disgraced tv evangelists and catholic priests that are embroiled in sex scandal.

i rather have a vulgar swearing atheist that is true to himself than a religious hypocrite that preaches god's word in the day and watch porn at nights.

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-01-29/...gard-head-pastor-church-staff-member?_s=PM:US

Disgraced pastor Haggard admits second relationship with man
METHAMPHETAMINE
January 29, 2009

Pastor Ted Haggard acknowledged on CNN's "Larry King Live" that he had a second relationship with a man.

Evangelical pastor Ted Haggard described Thursday as "fundamentally true" an assertion that he engaged in an inappropriate relationship with a 20-year-old male volunteer in 2006.

The incident occurred when the two men were in bed together, Grant Haas said in a videotaped interview played on CNN's "Larry King Live."

"He pretty much asked me if it was OK if he masturbated in front of me or masturbated in the bed next to me," Haas said. "I told him no, it would make me really uncomfortable. But he grabbed a bottle of lotion and started masturbating.

I am not making any judgment. I am not saying all atheists have those profiles....only certain elite/perfect atheists display those profiles stated above.

One can claim he or she is a believer but we can only truly know whether we are one or not when Jesus comes and establish His kingdom. He has said "many will call Him Lord Lord and He is going to tell them, I never knew you. You evildoers" (Matthew 7:23). In fact, in the whole chapter of Matthew 23 Jesus has told us very clearly that many temple (in today's context, church) officials were corrupt and we have to be very careful of their teachings and their way of life. No one - that include me - can really know whether his or she is fully acceptable to God until the final day. All we need to do is just to do our best to follow what Bible teaches us. We are not going to pass with flying colours, biblically-speaking, but we must continue trying to live our lives to please Him by avoiding doing evil deeds. Continue to evil deeds is one of the signs that he or she is not a believer. Thus, so what, if there are 'pastors,' ''elders', 'deacons' or 'missionaries' steal money, commit homosexual or beastialism? Are they really believers? And just because these evil so-call church workers do evil deeds it doesn't mean God doesn't exist. It simply confirms God's word is true. Believing in Jesus, His sacrificial blood, and that He is the ONLY Person can save us from eternal damnation has nothing to do with Ted Haggard, Larry King, Larry Queen and just because some of these people's lifestyle contradicted what Bible tells us and then you conclude that God doesn't exist, then it is really very sorry to tell you, you are making a very serious judgment not on them but yourself. We only believe in God all because of Jesus.

So your opinion on homosexual is wrong as well as mulitple sexual relationship? I believe you think it's wrong, based on what you have written. I too. In fact, very wrong and this is very clearly stated in the Bible. Of course, there are people have no opinion on such issues claiming what happened in other people's bedroom or closed doors is none of his business! You know what I meant and who they are. Really very sad when you have these people as your companions. Put yourself in right perspective: Do you really want these people to be your close companions, or some stupid people - worldly speaking - who believe in God and keep sharing with other that God is good; God is love, God sacrifices for mankind so that they can be saved? or You prefer to have close companions and tell you: So what, beastialism, people do that's their business; so what, if man wants to have sex with other man, that's their business".

Yes, Christians are often being labelled by unbelivers to be stupid, world-speaking and I accept this without any offence. Whether other Christians can accept or not, it up to them. But when God calls you a fool, that's something you cannot, should not and must not take comfort with and ignore it. You have searched very hard for the answers that God exists, Jesus saves. Have you...most probably because I seemed to have read that you were a Christian for more than 20 years. If you truly are a Christian in the first place, there is a great hope...God has promised that He will not foresake His children. You will someday, somehow come back to Him. You may be backslided now, but Jesus will slide you back, if only you are really a believer in the first place. All glory to God.
 
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stupid terrorist christain pslam23 likes to quotes from his story book ...without knowing his storybook are full of contradicting ...;)


contradicting bible


1 ) War or Peace?
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

2 ) God good to all, or just a few?
PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

3) Who is the father of Joseph?
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

4) Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:
MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

5) Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

6) Which first--beasts or man?
GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

7) How many stalls and horsemen?
1KI 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

2CH 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.

8) Is it folly to be wise or not?
PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

1CO 1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."

9) Human vs. ghostly impregnation
ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

10 ) The sins of the father
ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

11) Rabbits do not chew their cud
LEV 11:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

"Gerah," the term which appears in the MT means (chewed) cud, and also perhaps grain, or berry (also a 20th of a sheckel, but I think that we can agree that that is irrelevant here). It does *not* mean dung, and there is a perfectly adequate Hebrew word for that, which could have been used. Furthermore, the phrase translated "chew the cud" in the KJV is more exactly "bring up the cud." Rabbits do not bring up anything; they let it go all the way through, then eat it again. The description given in Leviticus is inaccurate, and that's that. Rabbits do eat their own dung; they do not bring anything up and chew on it.

12) Snails do not melt
PSA 58:8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.

13) Fowl from waters or ground?
GEN 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
GEN 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

14) Odd genetics
GEN 30:39 And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.

15) The shape of the earth
ISA 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

MAT 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

Astronomical bodies are spherical, and you cannot see the entire exterior surface from anyplace. The kingdoms of Egypt, China, Greece, Crete, sections of Asia Minor, India, Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North Africa), Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements from these kingdoms of the world were widely distributed.

16) Snakes, while built low, do not eat dirt
GEN 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

17) Earth supported?
JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

JOB 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Heaven supported too
JOB 26:11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof.

18) The hydrological cycle
ECC 1:7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.

JOB 38:22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,

Storehouses are not part of the cycle

19) Order of creation
Here is the order in the first (Genesis 1), the Priestly tradition:

Day 1: Sky, Earth, light
Day 2: Water, both in ocean basins and above the sky(!)
Day 3: Plants
Day 4: Sun, Moon, stars (as calendrical and navigational aids)
Day 5: Sea monsters (whales), fish, birds, land animals, creepy-crawlies (reptiles, insects, etc.)
Day 6: Humans (apparently both sexes at the same time)
Day 7: Nothing (the Gods took the first day off anyone ever did)

Note that there are "days," "evenings," and "mornings" before the Sun was created. Here, the Deity is referred to as "Elohim," which is a plural, thus the literal translation, "the Gods." In this tale, the Gods seem satisfied with what they have done, saying after each step that "it was good."

The second one (Genesis 2), the Yahwist tradition, goes:

Earth and heavens (misty)
Adam, the first man (on a desolate Earth)
Plants
Animals
Eve, the first woman (from Adam's rib)

20) How orderly were things created?
#1: Step-by-step. The only discrepancy is that there is no Sun or Moon or stars on the first three "days."
#2: God fixes things up as he goes. The first man is lonely, and is not satisfied with animals. God finally creates a woman for him. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

21 ) How satisfied with creation was he?
#1: God says "it was good" after each of his labors, and rests on the seventh day, evidently very satisfied.
#2: God has to fix up his creation as he goes, and he would certainly not be very satisfied with the disobedience of that primordial couple. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

22) Moses' personality
NUM 12:3: "Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the fact of the earth."

NUM 31:14, 17, 18: "And Moses was wroth...And Moses said unto them, "Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman, ... But all the women children ... keep alive for yourselves."

23) Righteous live?
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."

ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."

24 ) ACT 1:18: "Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."

MAT 27:5-7: "And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests...bought with them the potter's field."

25) Jesus' first sermon plain or mount?
MAT 5:1,2: "And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...."

LUK 6:17,20: "And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."

26) Jesus' last words
MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."

LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."

27 ) Years of famine
II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?

I CHRONICLES 21:11: SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;

28 ) Moved David to anger?
II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

29 ) The GENEALOGY OF JESUS?
In two places in the New Testament the genealogy of Jesus son of Mary is mentioned. MAT 1:6-16 and LUK 3:23-31. Each gives the ancestors of Joseph the CLAIMED husband of Mary and Step father of Jesus. The first one starts from Abraham(verse 2) all the way down to Jesus. The second one from Jesus all the way back to Adam. The only common name to these two lists between David and Jesus is JOSEPH, How can this be true? and also How can Jesus have a genealogy when all Muslims and most Christians believe that Jesus had/has no father.

30 ) God be seen?
EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (EXO 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (EXO 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (GEN 32:30)

God CANNOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (JOH 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (EXO 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1TIM 6:16)

31 ) CRUEL, UNMERCIFUL, DESTRUCTIVE, and FEROCIOUS or KIND, MERCIFUL, and GOOD:
"I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (JER 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

"The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (JAS 5:11)
"For his mercy endureth forever." (1CH 16:34)
"The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." (PSA 145:9)
"God is love." (1JO 4:16)

32 ) Tempts?
"And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." (GEN 22:1)

"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (JAS 1:13)

33 ) Judas died how?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and hanged himself." (MAT 27:5)

"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out." (ACT 1:18)

34 ) Ascend to heaven
"And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2KI 2:11)

"No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, ... the Son of Man." (JOH 3:13)

35 ) What was Jesus' prediction regarding Peter's denial?
Before the cock crow - MAT 26:34

Before the cock crow twice - MAR 14:30

36 ) How many times did the cock crow?
MAR 14:72 And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.

MAT 26:74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
MAT 26:75 And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.

LUK 22:60 And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew.
LUK 22:61 And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.

JOH 13:38 Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, still thou hast denied me thrice.

JOH 18:27 Peter then denied again: and immediately the cock crew.

37 ) How many beatitudes in the Sermon on the Mount
MAT 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
MAT 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
MAT 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
MAT 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
MAT 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
MAT 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
MAT 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
MAT 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
MAT 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

LUK 6:20 And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
LUK 6:21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
LUK 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
LUK 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

38 ) Does every man sin?
1KI 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;

2CH 6:36 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man which sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them over before their enemies, and they carry them away captives unto a land far off or near;

PRO 20:9 Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?

ECC 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

JO1 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
JO1 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
JO1 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

JO1 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

39 ) Who bought potter's field
ACT 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
ACT 1:19 And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.

MAT 27:6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.
MAT 27:7 And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.
MAT 27:8 Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.

40 ) Who prophesied the potter's field?
MAT 27:9-10 (mentions Jeremy but no such verse in Jeremiah) is in Zechariah 11:12-13

41 ) Who bears guilt?
GAL 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

GAL 6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden.

42 ) Do you answer a fool?
PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

43 ) How many children did Michal, the daughter of Saul, have?
2SA 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

2SA 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite:

44) How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign?
2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

2CH 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

45 ) Marriage?
Proverbs 18:22
1 Corinthians 7 (whole book. See 1,2,27,39,40)

46 ) Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?
ACT 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

ACT 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

47 ) Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
MAR 1:12 And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness.

JOH 1:35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;

(various traipsings)

48 ) How many apostles were in office between the resurrection and ascension?
1 Corinthians 15:5 (12)
MAT 27:3-5 (minus one from 12)
ACT 1:9-26 (Mathias not elected until after resurrection)

MAT 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

49 ) Judging
1 Cor 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:" (NIV)

1 Cor 4:5 "Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God."

50 ) Good deeds
Matt 5:16 "In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven." (NIV)

Matt 6:3-4 "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." (NIV)

51) For or against?
MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
(default is against)

MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)

LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(default is for)

52 ) Whom did they see at the tomb?
MAT 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
MAT 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
MAT 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
MAT 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

MAR 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.

LUK 24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:

JOH 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.

53 ) God change?
MAL 3:6
JAS 1:17
1SA 15:29
JON 3:10
GEN 6:6

54 ) Destruction of cities (what said was jeremiah was zechariah)
MAT 27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;

ZEC 11:11-13 (Note: There is nothing in Jeremiah remotely like this.)

55 ) Who's sepulchers
ACT 7:16
GEN 23:17,18

56 ) Strong drink?
PRO 31:6,7
JOH 2:11-11

57 ) When second coming?
MAT 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

MAR 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

LUK 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

(See also 1TH 4:15-18)

58 ) Solomon's overseers
1KI 9:23 550
2CH 8:10 250

59 ) The mother of Abijah:
2CH 11:20 Maachah the daughter of Absalom

2CH 13:2 Michaiah the daughter of Uriel

60 ) When did Baasha die?
1KI 16:6-8 26th year of the reign of Asa

2CH 16:1 36th year of the reign of Asa

61 ) How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
2KI 8:26 22

2CH 22:2 42

62 ) What was the color of the robe placed on Jesus during his trial?
MAT 27:28 scarlet

JOH 19:2 purple

63 ) What did they give him to drink?
MAT 27:34 vinegar

MAR 15:23 wine with myrrh

64 ) How long was Jesus in the tomb?
Depends where you look; MAT 12:40 gives Jesus prophesying that he will spend "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth," and MAR 10:34 has "after three days (meta treis emeras) he will rise again." As far as I can see from a quick look, the prophecies have "after three days," but the post-Resurrection narratives have "on the third day." Reply Reply With Quote . Reply Reply With Quote .
 
This is my concluding message in the thread here. Thankfully (or rather unthankfully), we can now know the profiles of someone who is not just an atheist, but a “Perfect Atheist” who believes God doesn’t exist. From the last few messages we can see the some of their profiles such as:

(a) They cannot survive without using vulgar words, just like we cannot survive having our meals;

(b) Their minds are corrupt and they can only imagine vulgar pictures. Their minds truly reflect what the Bible has told us: Luke 6:45 ….an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

(c) They are insensitivity to what evilness and wickedness is all about; they even have no opinion on topics like beastialism that even most secular people will express opinion to condemn those who practice this evil deed; They call evil good and good evil;

(d) Lastly, they may be just fake animal-breeder and their knowledge of animal breeding is no better (or even worst) than those beasts in the wild which know very well that cross-breeding will dilute their pure genes/DNA; but these evil-doers are ready to participate something that even beasts themselves have flatly refused to participate.

This is what a Perfect Atheist is. Are you one of them?

Psalm23


" (a) They cannot survive without using vulgar words, just like we cannot survive having our meals;

to a terrorist christain like you ...i dont have to show any mercy ...did i fuck " god is my healer " ? you deserved what you deserve .


( b ) Their minds are corrupt and they can only imagine vulgar pictures. Their minds truly reflect what the Bible has told us: Luke 6:45 ….an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh

who are you to judge ...are you going to play god again ;) your storybook are full of contradiction yet you quote from them blindly ...check out above post that i quote from your own storybook ;) slapping yourself again ...well done terrorist .


(c) They are insensitivity to what evilness and wickedness is all about; they even have no opinion on topics like beastialism that even most secular people will express opinion to condemn those who practice this evil deed; They call evil good and good evil;



your church cheated billions from terrorist delucional ppl like you ...you call them sane ? your pastor spreading stupidlity ...this is not evil ? fuck you terrorist christain ..you are fucking blind ...change back your nick to teekee ...



d) Lastly, they may be just fake animal-breeder and their knowledge of animal breeding is no better (or even worst) than those beasts in the wild which know very well that cross-breeding will dilute their pure genes/DNA; but these evil-doers are ready to participate something that even beasts themselves have flatly refused to participate.



i got prove that im a animal breeder not like your invisibleman ....theres no proof . what dilute pure genes ? you dont be surprise if one day your daughter let ah neh fuck ...;) repent delusional christain terrorist ...;)
 
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