Finally Palestinians gains Statehood, thanks to generous far sighted PrezTrump & goodwill of Americans.

[Willamshakespear]

1. Inhabitants in landmass of Palestine were a mix of Jews & Muslims of Arab descend. When Partition happened in 1948 after brutal WW2, landmass of Palestine was divided for the Jews & Muslims to live in peace & prosperity, but sadly, while the Jews managed to blossom the harsh lands they had, the Muslims were engaged in horrific wars & terrorism even today, MADE USE OF by other Muslims in their sectarian strife for religious supremacy that lasted even before the prophet Muhammad's death bed turn cold & exists even today...

2. Thus the inhabitants of Palestinians & their innocent generations suffered - lied to, made used of, but WERE NOT EVEN accepted into prosperous Arab & Muslim lands, even today, for a horrific 77yrs .

3. It shows that the inhabitants of Palestine were NOT READY for any form of independent Statehood. Even those whom they had elected were proven corrupt, whom made billion$ at the expense of their People's plight. While they enjoyed riches, the people that they were suppose to lead continued to live in poverty & charity for a staggering 77yrs...

And worse, the best that their so called leaders could do was to engage in an immoral war that NO mainstream religion, certainly NOT Islam, would countenance - the slaughter of innocents on Oct 7 2023 upon its neighbor....


With such depravity, ultimately someone has to step in & end the Palestinians' sufferings.

For 77 yrs, the inhabitants of Palestine had been praying to Allah, the ever merciful - the Almighty known by many names across time, space & cultures - for help. Perhaps the Palestinians had NOT been praying to Allah, but to the twisted & taken out of context words of conniving mortal men, as proven by the leaders of Oct 7 massacre.

PrezTrump offer to take in the Palestine inhabitants would mean:-

a)Those who are willing to lay down arms, to live in peace, would become American citizens PROTECTED under its Constitution.

b)Social expenditures - healthcare, education, security, infrastructure, etc, would be funded by the Federal govt of USA.

c)Everyone will be treated as an equal & needs not bow to any prince or principalities.

d)Religion will be respected but so long as the religion preaches & teaches Peace & Submission, as Islam was meant to be, in order to progress Humanity.

e)Palestinians will be free to elect their own administrators to the State, but as education had been disrupted by wars, many of Palestine origins may not be ready for top civil service duties, & as such, administrators will come from the Federal govt till majority of Palestinians obtains a degree in any (w)holistic education, tested & proven capable.

f) Any arable land will be for collective agricultural purposes, small land holdings will be given fair prices sold to the govt to engage in advance agricultural purposes so as to achieve trade revenues based upon economy of scale. Other land estates will be used for service industries - such as markets, hotels, malls, etc, to provide job opportunities for each generations of Palestinians.

g)...and much more.


But of CRITICAL NOTE:-

The landmass inhabitants had been torn apart by religious strife, thus it is critical that while freedom of religion will be respected, it MUST NEVER again be made used of to turn Humans against other Humans.

a. Every cleric would have to submit their Friday sermons to be vetted by the State Governor, to ensure that it preaches on peace. Any deviations, the cleric would be warned, & if warnings unheeded - an El Salvador jail cell awaits.

b. Foreign clerics would be welcomed to preach & uplift lives in the new State of Palestine, but those whom have a reputation for spreading fears, hate, terrorism, etc - WILL BE BANNED from entering the State.


Thanks for reading.

All the best to the new Palestine State - A Federal Protectorate of USA.

 

[syed putra]

1. Inhabitants in landmass of Palestine were a mix of Jews & Muslims of Arab descend. When Partition happened in 1948 after brutal WW2, landmass of Palestine was divided for the Jews & Muslims to live in peace & prosperity, but sadly, while the Jews managed to blossom the harsh lands they had, the Muslims were engaged in horrific wars & terrorism even today, MADE USE OF by other Muslims in their sectarian strife for religious supremacy that lasted even before the prophet Muhammad's death bed turn cold & exists even today...

2. Thus the inhabitants of Palestinians & their innocent generations suffered - lied to, made used of, but WERE NOT EVEN accepted into prosperous Arab & Muslim lands, even today, for a horrific 77yrs .

3. It shows that the inhabitants of Palestine were NOT READY for any form of independent Statehood. Even those whom they had elected were proven corrupt, whom made billion$ at the expense of their People's plight. While they enjoyed riches, the people that they were suppose to lead continued to live in poverty & charity for a staggering 77yrs...

And worse, the best that their so called leaders could do was to engage in an immoral war that NO mainstream religion, certainly NOT Islam, would countenance - the slaughter of innocents on Oct 7 2023 upon its neighbor....


With such depravity, ultimately someone has to step in & end the Palestinians' sufferings.

For 77 yrs, the inhabitants of Palestine had been praying to Allah, the ever merciful - the Almighty known by many names across time, space & cultures - for help. Perhaps the Palestinians had NOT been praying to Allah, but to the twisted & taken out of context words of conniving mortal men, as proven by the leaders of Oct 7 massacre.

PrezTrump offer to take in the Palestine inhabitants would mean:-

a)Those who are willing to lay down arms, to live in peace, would become American citizens PROTECTED under its Constitution.

b)Social expenditures - healthcare, education, security, infrastructure, etc, would be funded by the Federal govt of USA.

c)Everyone will be treated as an equal & needs not bow to any prince or principalities.

d)Religion will be respected but so long as the religion preaches & teaches Peace & Submission, as Islam was meant to be, in order to progress Humanity.

e)Palestinians will be free to elect their own administrators to the State, but as education had been disrupted by wars, many of Palestine origins may not be ready for top civil service duties, & as such, administrators will come from the Federal govt till majority of Palestinians obtains a degree in any (w)holistic education, tested & proven capable.

f) Any arable land will be for collective agricultural purposes, small land holdings will be given fair prices sold to the govt to engage in advance agricultural purposes so as to achieve trade revenues based upon economy of scale. Other land estates will be used for service industries - such as markets, hotels, malls, etc, to provide job opportunities for each generations of Palestinians.

g)...and much more.


But of CRITICAL NOTE:-

The landmass inhabitants had been torn apart by religious strife, thus it is critical that while freedom of religion will be respected, it MUST NEVER again be made used of to turn Humans against other Humans.

a. Every cleric would have to submit their Friday sermons to be vetted by the State Governor, to ensure that it preaches on peace. Any deviations, the cleric would be warned, & if warnings unheeded - an El Salvador jail cell awaits.

b. Foreign clerics would be welcomed to preach & uplift lives in the new State of Palestine, but those whom have a reputation for spreading fears, hate, terrorism, etc - WILL BE BANNED from entering the State.


Thanks for reading.

All the best to the new Palestine State - A Federal Protectorate of USA.

Your opinion just shows how far brain washed those who watch western main stream media have gone.
US seizing a foreign sovereign state is already a illegal act. Especially when the state poses no threat to the US.
Only two countries refuse to recognise the Palestinian state. US and Israel. And both decided to work hand in hand to ultimately level it.
Cooperating with the israelis did not bring any benefit to the people of west bank whose properties are continually seized and destroyed to make way for more jewish settlements.

Only way to peace is give Palestinians full independence. The terms are already in place based on 1967 border.

 

[syed putra]

Let this Chicago prof who predicted the russia Ukraine conflict give his opinion on what trump will do next one week before trumps gaza cleansing announcement.

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

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On a map of the Middle East, Gaza is part of the **Gaza Strip**, a Palestinian territory that is not formally recognized as part of any sovereign state. It is located between Israel and Egypt and has been a center of historical, cultural, and political significance for thousands of years. Its modern status remains contested in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
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During biblical times, Gaza was a significant city located in the southern part of Canaan, near the Mediterranean coast. It was part of the region known as the Philistine Pentapolis, which included five major cities: Gaza, Ashkelon, Ashdod, Ekron, and Gath. Gaza's strategic location made it an important trade and military hub.

### Key Landmarks and Features of Gaza in Biblical Times:

1. **Gaza City**: The city itself was a prominent center for trade and commerce, connecting Egypt with the Levant. It was often mentioned in the Bible as a place of conflict between the Israelites and the Philistines.

2. **Temple of Dagon**: The Philistines worshipped Dagon, a major deity associated with agriculture and fertility. The Temple of Dagon in Gaza is famously mentioned in the story of Samson (Judges 16:21-30), where Samson brings down the temple, sacrificing himself to defeat the Philistines.

3 **The Road to Egypt**: Gaza was a key point on the ancient trade route known as the "Way of the Sea" (Via Maris), which connected Egypt to Mesopotamia. This route made Gaza a vital crossroads for travelers and traders.

4. **The Harbor**: While the ancient harbor of Gaza (Anthedon) was not as prominent as other Mediterranean ports, it still played a role in maritime trade and fishing.

5. **Surrounding Agricultural Land**: The region around Gaza was fertile and known for its vineyards, olive groves, and grain fields, which were essential to the local economy.

### Biblical References:

- Gaza is mentioned multiple times in the Bible, particularly in the context of the Philistines. For example:

- **Judges 16**: The story of Samson and Delilah culminates in Gaza, where Samson is imprisoned and ultimately destroys the Temple of Dagon.

- **Acts 8:26**: In the New Testament, Philip the Evangelist meets an Ethiopian eunuch on the road from Jerusalem to Gaza, indicating its continued importance as a regional center.

Gaza's historical and biblical significance lies in its strategic location, its role in trade, and its association with key biblical events. Today, the modern city of Gaza in the Gaza Strip continues to occupy the same general area.

 

[superpower]

1. Inhabitants in landmass of Palestine were a mix of Jews & Muslims of Arab descend. When Partition happened in 1948 after brutal WW2, landmass of Palestine was divided for the Jews & Muslims to live in peace & prosperity, but sadly, while the Jews managed to blossom the harsh lands they had, the Muslims were engaged in horrific wars & terrorism even today, MADE USE OF by other Muslims in their sectarian strife for religious supremacy that lasted even before the prophet Muhammad's death bed turn cold & exists even today...

OMG, how dumb can you get? Please, when you know nuts, don't pollute this forum with your dense lingo and fractured grammar which no one seems to understand.

Fact: Trump is not giving the Palestinians an independent state.

He's seizing Gaza, evacuating all Palestinians from the land and dumping them in Jordan and Egypt, and then putting the land under US administration. Eventually giving it to Israel to build Hasidic settlements.

In other words, what Trump is proposing is ethnic cleansing, a crime just short of a holocaust and which contravenes all international law, is outright illegal and is a crime against humanity. Under the Geneva Conventions, ethinic cleansing is a justification for the Palestinians to start a war of self-defence.

 

[Loofydralb]

No worries. Hamas will make Americans learn.

 

[face the facts]

knn, come take over other people's country and said its good for you........sounds like the pap morons.....its for your own good....

 

[congo9]

OMG, how dumb can you get? Please, when you know nuts, don't pollute this forum with your dense lingo and fractured grammar which no one seems to understand.

Fact: Trump is not giving the Palestinians an independent state.

He's seizing Gaza, evacuating all Palestinians from the land and dumping them in Jordan and Egypt, and then putting the land under US administration. Eventually giving it to Israel to build Hasidic settlements.

In other words, what Trump is proposing is ethnic cleansing, a crime just short of a holocaust and which contravenes all international law, is outright illegal and is a crime against humanity. Under the Geneva Conventions, ethinic cleansing is a justification for the Palestinians to start a war of self-defence.

No..
Trump want to give these Palestine a good life. They want to rebuild the city of Gaza. So the Orang Asli like the Palestine has to move to other Arab Nation.

You leave these Palestine's alone and more terrorist will come in shortly to occupy the Gaza again. These EU are so stupid and incompetent, no wonder the Chinese chicom is having them for lunch ,dinner and supper.

 

[bigozt]

no one wants these Fakestinian idiots. Pls look at their behavior and beliefs and take them seriously. They want Jihad and a caliphate. A Final Solution to the Fakestinian Problem is needed but Israel has been merciful with only 40+K killed. Donald Duck's Twitter worthy posts are to distract the press whores so he can focus on real work

 

[syed putra]

no one wants these Fakestinian idiots. Pls look at their behavior and beliefs and take them seriously. They want Jihad and a caliphate. A Final Solution to the Fakestinian Problem is needed but Israel has been merciful with only 40+K killed. Donald Duck's Twitter worthy posts are to distract the press whores so he can focus on real work

Jiu hu wants them. Get the missile technology. And IED's that blew the merkava tanks. Plus tactics in urban warfare.

 

[syed putra]

No..
Trump want to give these Palestine a good life. They want to rebuild the city of Gaza. So the Orang Asli like the Palestine has to move to other Arab Nation.

You leave these Palestine's alone and more terrorist will come in shortly to occupy the Gaza again. These EU are so stupid and incompetent, no wonder the Chinese chicom is having them for lunch ,dinner and supper.

Trump has no interest in welfare of the Palestinians.
His main aim is to please the AIPAC donors. Without their support, he would not have won the election. Promises were made upon receiving the money. Hence the mostly pro zionist cabinet.
This kind of party contribution in my mind, is a form of corruption. But to the US politicians, it's part of their heritage.
Accepting donations from a foreign country is illegal in the US. But since these israelis have dual citizenship, it's kosher. Just giving say a few hundred million get back tens of billions in US aid to Israel financially and militarily.

 

[syed putra]

iDF lost the war against Hamas.

So like in previous cases, Israel will use US to depose of threats on their behalf. It's a Good deal

 

[Leongsam]

Your opinion just shows how far brain washed those who watch western main stream media have gone.
US seizing a foreign sovereign state is already a illegal act. Especially when the state poses no threat to the US.
Only two countries refuse to recognise the Palestinian state. US and Israel. And both decided to work hand in hand to ultimately level it.
Cooperating with the israelis did not bring any benefit to the people of west bank whose properties are continually seized and destroyed to make way for more jewish settlements.

Only way to peace is give Palestinians full independence. The terms are already in place based on 1967 border.

Fake news. You should join CNN.

which countries do NOT recognise the state of Palestine?

As of the information available:

• United States
• Canada
• Australia
• France
• Germany
• Italy
• Japan
• South Korea
• Mexico
• United Kingdom

These countries do not recognize the State of Palestine as a sovereign state. This list is based on various reports and official stances as of recent updates. However, the situation can evolve, and it's important to check for the latest developments.

Additionally, posts found on X and other online sources indicate that several European countries like Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Greece, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Portugal, and Slovenia also do not recognize Palestine, along with Cameroon and Eritrea in Africa.

However, these should be treated as less formal confirmations since social media posts are not always authoritative or up-to-date.
Please note that the recognition of states can be a fluid matter, influenced by political changes, international relations, and ongoing diplomatic processes.

 

[Leongsam]

 

[syed putra]

Fake news. You should join CNN.

which countries do not recognise the state of palestine?




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As of the information available:

• United States
• Canada
• Australia
• France
• Germany
• Italy
• Japan
• South Korea
• Mexico
• United Kingdom

These countries do not recognize the State of Palestine as a sovereign state. This list is based on various reports and official stances as of recent updates. However, the situation can evolve, and it's important to check for the latest developments.
Additionally, posts found on X and other online sources indicate that several European countries like Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Greece, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Portugal, and Slovenia also do not recognize Palestine, along with Cameroon and Eritrea in Africa. However, these should be treated as less formal confirmations since social media posts are not always authoritative or up-to-date.
Please note that the recognition of states can be a fluid matter, influenced by political changes, international relations, and ongoing diplomatic processes.

It should be rephrased. Only two countries hinder the formation of a Palestinian state apart from those small Pacific Island nations.
The rest are for a two state solution.

 

[syed putra]

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That is not going to happen.

 

[Leongsam]

It should be rephrased. Only two countries hinder the formation of a Palestinian state apart from those small Pacific Island nations.
The rest are for a two state solution.

Palestine was never a state in the first place so why should it suddenly become one out of the blue?

 

[syed putra]

Palestine was never a state in the first place so why should it suddenly become one out of the blue?

It was a state before the creation if Israel under British mandate

 

[Leongsam]

The term "State of Palestine" refers to different historical and political contexts over time:

1. Ancient History: The region known historically as Palestine has roots dating back thousands of years. It was inhabited by various peoples, including Canaanites, Philistines, Israelites, and others. The term "Palestine" (from the Greek "Palaistinē") was used by Herodotus in the 5th century BCE to describe the area.
2. Roman Period: After the Bar Kokhba revolt (132-136 CE), the Romans renamed Judea "Syria Palaestina" to minimize Jewish connection to the land. This name persisted through the Byzantine period.
3. Islamic and Crusader Periods: The region was part of various Muslim caliphates and later the Crusader states. It was known as "Filastin" under Muslim rule.
4. Ottoman Rule: From the 16th century until World War I, the area was under Ottoman control, referred to as part of the Damascus Eyalet or later the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem.
5. British Mandate: Following World War I, the League of Nations granted Britain a mandate over Palestine in 1920, aiming to establish a national home for the Jewish people while safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all inhabitants. This period saw significant Jewish immigration and the growth of Jewish national movements alongside Arab nationalist movements.
6. Post-1948: After the 1947 UN Partition Plan, which proposed separate Jewish and Arab states, the 1948 Arab-Israeli War led to Israel's declaration of independence. The areas not controlled by Israel came under Jordanian and Egyptian control (West Bank and Gaza Strip respectively). There was no independent Palestinian state at this time.
7. 1967 and After: Following the Six-Day War in 1967, Israel occupied these territories. The Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), established in 1964, claimed to represent the Palestinian people and sought statehood.
8. Oslo Accords: In the 1990s, the Oslo Accords between Israel and the PLO set up the Palestinian Authority to govern parts of the West Bank and Gaza, leading to a form of limited self-governance but not full statehood.
9. Statehood Declaration: In 1988, the Palestinian National Council declared the establishment of the State of Palestine, but without control over territory, this declaration was largely symbolic.
10. Current Status: As of now, the State of Palestine is recognized by over 130 UN member states, but it does not have full sovereignty due to the ongoing Israeli occupation and complex political dynamics. It has observer status at the United Nations, granted in 2012.

In summary, while there has been a concept of "Palestine" with various political entities throughout history, the modern "State of Palestine" as envisioned by the Palestinian national movement has not existed as a fully sovereign state with internationally recognized borders and control over its territory. However, the historical, cultural, and political identity of Palestine and its people have been continuous for millennia.

 

[Leongsam]

It was a state before the creation if Israel under British mandate

Palestine has always been a region not a nation or state. The region has had a variety of occupants and rulers but has never been an independent state. Do a search of history and you will never find any evidence of the existence of a ruler of "Palestine" as a nation.