Finally Palestinians gains Statehood, thanks to generous far sighted PrezTrump & goodwill of Americans.

[syed putra]

The term "State of Palestine" refers to different historical and political contexts over time:

1. Ancient History: The region known historically as Palestine has roots dating back thousands of years. It was inhabited by various peoples, including Canaanites, Philistines, Israelites, and others. The term "Palestine" (from the Greek "Palaistinē") was used by Herodotus in the 5th century BCE to describe the area.
2. Roman Period: After the Bar Kokhba revolt (132-136 CE), the Romans renamed Judea "Syria Palaestina" to minimize Jewish connection to the land. This name persisted through the Byzantine period.
3. Islamic and Crusader Periods: The region was part of various Muslim caliphates and later the Crusader states. It was known as "Filastin" under Muslim rule.
4. Ottoman Rule: From the 16th century until World War I, the area was under Ottoman control, referred to as part of the Damascus Eyalet or later the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem.
5. British Mandate: Following World War I, the League of Nations granted Britain a mandate over Palestine in 1920, aiming to establish a national home for the Jewish people while safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all inhabitants. This period saw significant Jewish immigration and the growth of Jewish national movements alongside Arab nationalist movements.
6. Post-1948: After the 1947 UN Partition Plan, which proposed separate Jewish and Arab states, the 1948 Arab-Israeli War led to Israel's declaration of independence. The areas not controlled by Israel came under Jordanian and Egyptian control (West Bank and Gaza Strip respectively). There was no independent Palestinian state at this time.
7. 1967 and After: Following the Six-Day War in 1967, Israel occupied these territories. The Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), established in 1964, claimed to represent the Palestinian people and sought statehood.
8. Oslo Accords: In the 1990s, the Oslo Accords between Israel and the PLO set up the Palestinian Authority to govern parts of the West Bank and Gaza, leading to a form of limited self-governance but not full statehood.
9. Statehood Declaration: In 1988, the Palestinian National Council declared the establishment of the State of Palestine, but without control over territory, this declaration was largely symbolic.
10. Current Status: As of now, the State of Palestine is recognized by over 130 UN member states, but it does not have full sovereignty due to the ongoing Israeli occupation and complex political dynamics. It has observer status at the United Nations, granted in 2012.

In summary, while there has been a concept of "Palestine" with various political entities throughout history, the modern "State of Palestine" as envisioned by the Palestinian national movement has not existed as a fully sovereign state with internationally recognized borders and control over its territory. However, the historical, cultural, and political identity of Palestine and its people have been continuous for millennia.

It's considered fully recognised if Palestinian passport was issued by British.

 

[Leongsam]

It's considered fully recognised if Palestinian passport was issued by British.

Historically the Jews in the region had British issued "Palestinian Authority" passports too so that would be make them Palestinians by your definition.

 

[superpower]

Palestine has always been a region not a nation or state. The region has had a variety of occupants and rulers but has never been an independent state. Do a search of history and you will never find any evidence of the existence of a ruler of "Palestine" as a nation.

Palestine has never been an independent state, though it was a Mandatory State under British control, with a view to future independence for the Arabs residing there (after the Ottoman Turks were chased out).

But the moment the state of Israel was carved out of the mandate with the attendant ethnic cleansing (Nakba) that followed, the formation of an independent Palestine became a political necessity, for both for humanitarian and geopolitical reasons. That's why the two-state solution has received wide support from almost all members of the UN except for a couple of recalcitrant states. If you carve out a piece of land that has historically been shared by Jews, Christians, and Mulims and give it to the Jews, then it follows that the remaining land should go to the Arab Muslims and Christians.

 

[syed putra]

Historically the Jews in the region had British issued "Palestinian Authority" passports too so that would be make them Palestinians by your definition.

That was what the Arabs wanted no? A secular one state solution.

 

[Likemeat]

Fake news. You should join CNN.

which countries do NOT recognise the state of Palestine?

As of the information available:

• United States
• Canada
• Australia
• France
• Germany
• Italy
• Japan
• South Korea
• Mexico
• United Kingdom

These countries do not recognize the State of Palestine as a sovereign state. This list is based on various reports and official stances as of recent updates. However, the situation can evolve, and it's important to check for the latest developments.

Additionally, posts found on X and other online sources indicate that several European countries like Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Greece, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Portugal, and Slovenia also do not recognize Palestine, along with Cameroon and Eritrea in Africa.

However, these should be treated as less formal confirmations since social media posts are not always authoritative or up-to-date.
Please note that the recognition of states can be a fluid matter, influenced by political changes, international relations, and ongoing diplomatic processes.

Which countries recognise Palestine in 2024?​

The State of Palestine is recognised as a sovereign nation by 146 countries, representing 75 percent of United Nations member

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine

 

[Papsmearer]

Your opinion just shows how far brain washed those who watch western main stream media have gone.
US seizing a foreign sovereign state is already a illegal act. Especially when the state poses no threat to the US.
Only two countries refuse to recognise the Palestinian state. US and Israel. And both decided to work hand in hand to ultimately level it.
Cooperating with the israelis did not bring any benefit to the people of west bank whose properties are continually seized and destroyed to make way for more jewish settlements.

Only way to peace is give Palestinians full independence. The terms are already in place based on 1967 border.

Why don't u go an invite Trump to seize singapore too and kick out the PAP. Tell him there are a lot of Palestinians here

 

[Leongsam]

Palestine has never been an independent state, though it was a Mandatory State under British control, with a view to future independence for the Arabs residing there (after the Ottoman Turks were chased out).

But the moment the state of Israel was carved out of the mandate with the attendant ethnic cleansing (Nakba) that followed, the formation of an independent Palestine became a political necessity, for both for humanitarian and geopolitical reasons. That's why the two-state solution has received wide support from almost all members of the UN except for a couple of recalcitrant states. If you carve out a piece of land that has historically been shared by Jews, Christians, and Mulims and give it to the Jews, then it follows that the remaining land should go to the Arab Muslims and Christians.

The Jews and the Muslims could have happily coexisted just as the Malays and Chinkies live side by side in Singapore. In fact there is a large minority of Israeli citizens who are Arab Muslims and they live in peace with those around them.

However both Hamas and Hezbollah have the destruction of Israel as part of their manifesto so it's pretty hard to come up with a 2 state solution when one party wants to slaughter the other.

If the Muslims had won all the wars they fought against the Jews perhaps the Middle East would look a bit different but when you keep losing territory every time you start a battle you pretty much deserve your predicament. That's what wars are for... ie to sort things out. Most countries have been created and lost via warfare. If Japan had not lost the war Sinkies would be speaking Japanese and bowing to the Emperor of Japan instead of to the memory of LKY.

The Muslims should accept the fact that the Jews are a lot smarter and surrender to the superior force instead of dragging things out. Just say sorry and promise to behave in future and everything can be settled.

PS: that pager attack was a stroke of brilliance that only the Jews could have executed. Shows just how vastly superior the Jews are and why they deserve to be the winners in the conflict. If I was the referee I would blow the whistle, end the game and call the winner.

 

[congo9]

The Jews and the Muslims could have happily coexisted just as the Malays and Chinkies live side by side in Singapore. In fact there is a large minority of Israeli citizens who are Arab Muslims and they live in peace with those around them.

However both Hamas and Hezbollah have the destruction of Israel as part of their manifesto so it's pretty hard to come up with a 2 state solution when one party wants to slaughter the other.

If the Muslims had won all the wars they fought against the Jews perhaps the Middle East would look a bit different but when you keep losing territory every time you start a battle you pretty much deserve your predicament. That's what wars are for... ie to sort things out. Most countries have been created and lost via warfare. If Japan had not lost the war Sinkies would be speaking Japanese and bowing to the Emperor of Japan instead of to the memory of LKY.

The Muslims should accept the fact that the Jews are a lot smarter and surrender to the superior force instead of dragging things out. Just say sorry and promise to behave in future and everything can be settled.

PS: that pager attack was a stroke of brilliance that only the Jews could have executed. Shows just how vastly superior the Jews are and why they deserve to be the winners in the conflict. If I was the referee I would blow the whistle, end the game and call the winner.

Wise word.
Just say sorry and move on.

Nobody sane will want an ethnic cleansing.

 

[Leongsam]

Wise word.
Just say sorry and move on.

Nobody sane will want an ethnic cleansing.

Yup Singapore became the great nation that it is today because LKY beat the shit out of those damned commie Barisan morons who decided to quit Parliament and surrender.

Imagine the mess that Singapore would be in today if the PAP and BS had continued doing battle for the last 65 years the country would have been a real mess and no investors would have ever set foot in sinkieland.

 

[syed putra]

There were large Jewish presence in Arab land too before Israel was created. And there was no problems. Baghdad city centre was mostly Jewish. Same in. Morocco and 10% of Cairo was said to be Jewish. All live side by side like they were under PAP.

 

[congo9]

Yup Singapore became the great nation that it is today because LKY beat the shit out of those damned commie Barisan morons who decided to quit Parliament and surrender.

Imagine the mess that Singapore would be in today if the PAP and BS had continued doing battle for the last 65 years the country would have been a real mess and no investors would have ever set foot in sinkieland.

Singapore becomes great because LKY surrendered to the west and follow them economically. Make Singkie study English and in the process Singkie forget their mother tongue. In short, LKY chosen democracy over communists. LKY chose to follow the Rich and powerful of that time. He also KPKB CIA wanted to bribe him, i wonder if this is true. The west seeing LKY has surrendered to them, gave business to Singapore and thus Singapore developed.

It has nothing to do with BS ...seriously.

 

[syed putra]

Singapore becomes great because LKY surrendered to the west and follow them economically. Make Singkie study English and in the process Singkie forget their mother tongue. In short, LKY chosen democracy over communists. LKY chose to follow the Rich and powerful of that time.

It has nothing to do with BS ...seriously.

That because LKY had British education. If the immigrant who was educated in China became leader if sinkie, we would all be communist.

 

[congo9]

That because LKY had British education. If the immigrant who was educated in China became leader if sinkie, we would all be communist.

The Communist of that time is poor and unruly. Who would want to follow their footstep ? Isn't it obvious

 

[Leongsam]

It has nothing to do with BS ...seriously.

Yes it had nothing to do with BS as the members were either thrown in jail or kissed the ring with public confessions of their misdeeds.

The West embraced Singapore because of the peace and stability that LKY offered. Had the country been in turmoil no amount of kowtowing to the Ang Moh would have convinced them to sign up with the tiny dot.

 

[syed putra]

The Communist of that time is poor and unruly. Who would want to follow their footstep ? Isn't it obvious

To the communists, their loyalty is to the motherland.

 

[congo9]

Yes it had nothing to do with BS as the members were either thrown in jail or kissed the ring with public confessions of their misdeeds.

The West embraced Singapore because of the peace and stability that LKY offered. Had the country been in turmoil no amount of kowtowing to the Ang Moh would have convinced them to sign up with the tiny dot.

The west embrace the Singapore because Singapore has an important position in SEA. It is further made easy that for the ANG MO that Singapore showed that they wanted peace and stability. By following the West, LKY and Singapore can achieve that.

So the west is bought over by LKY.

 

[syed putra]

Come to think of it, I say palestinian declare independence unilaterally. It's the only way to self sufficiency.
Indonesia did it. And the Dutch was too weak to fight after WWII.

 

[Loofydralb]

Palestine was never a state in the first place so why should it suddenly become one out of the blue?

Same reason USA was never a state 300 years ago
Ditto Israel

 

[Leongsam]

Same reason USA was never a state 300 years ago
Ditto Israel

USA was created via conquest and proclamation. Israel of today was created by the UN and extended via conquest.

The best way to create a country is by force.

 

[eatshitndie]