Evolution vs Creation - Church To Apologise

[Aussie Pete]

The Church of England will make an official apology to naturalist Charles Darwin for criticising his famous theory of evolution.

Coming 126 years after his death, the church's apology will focus on how wrong it was for senior bishops in the past to misunderstand and attack Darwin's theory about man being descended from apes.

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[Yoshitei]

The Church of England will make an official apology to naturalist Charles Darwin for criticising his famous theory of evolution.

Coming 126 years after his death, the church's apology will focus on how wrong it was for senior bishops in the past to misunderstand and attack Darwin's theory about man being descended from apes.

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If the local churches apologised, it should sound something like this...

It shouldn't have happened; lets move on, Amen.

 

[zhihau]

The Church of England will make an official apology to naturalist Charles Darwin for criticising his famous theory of evolution.

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what do people know about the original version of "on the Origin of Species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life"?

do people know that there are about 6 different versions of it? all written by Darwin, but each differing slightly... evolution of the contents in action i suppose?

 

[Ah Guan]

Another official apology?

The scientific community should now sue Christian bigots for millions in lost income. LOL!

 

[The_Latest_H]

As long as creation is taught in the religious schools and in the divine department of the universities, while scientists are allowed to teach evolution in the science department, I have no problems.

The issue here is that sometimes, especially in the west, theologians in the divinity department try to interfere in the scientists teaching science in their own departments, without realising that scientists-in-training are there to learn science and experiment in scientific research, not to learn theology.

Similarly in the theology department, students are there to learn about religion- and become priests, pastors et al- and not science, and therefore the vice versa is also true and scientists cannot impose their views on people who believe in the divine only. After all, we live in a pluralistic society; imposing one's religious view on anyone is not helpful to anyone.

 

[Ian6690]

Agree with you.

My analogy:

Life is like a library where everyone is free to read their favourite books or pick up any books to read. Other may recommend me to read books to read and I am free to decide to read or not but I do not criticise their choice of books. Everyone is free to made comments about the books they have read but not to make their comments too personal or directed at the reader. However I would be pissful off if the person forcefully insists I read their choice of books. Best scenario: At the end of the day, everyone reads their own books and the library becomes a peaceful place to be in.

 

[zhihau]

Life is like a library where everyone is free to read their favourite books or pick up any books to read.

who write those books?

 

[dysentry]

Once spoke to a City Harvest member, an NUS comp science grad who denied evolutionary theory and claimed dinosaur bones are fake.

 

[zhihau]

Once spoke to a City Harvest member, an NUS comp science grad who denied evolutionary theory and claimed dinosaur bones are fake.

would they believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn or the Flying Spaghetti Monster or the Celestial Teapot?

 

[Manchu]

Once spoke to a City Harvest member, an NUS comp science grad who denied evolutionary theory and claimed dinosaur bones are fake.

Empirical evidence in history worldwide has shown that in all religious groups there will always be some bad hats, at various times, who attempt to be GOD themselves by instilling fear and/or sowing untruthful lies to their followers. These are the real devils out to achieve their own ulterior motives.

Therefore, its up the individual to discern whether they are dealing with GOD, the HOLY GHOST or SATURN. Amen.

 

[zhihau]

These are the real devils out to achieve their own ulterior motives.

and so humans are dealing with humans now, or is it? :p

 

[The_Latest_H]

Once spoke to a City Harvest member, an NUS comp science grad who denied evolutionary theory and claimed dinosaur bones are fake.

He can think whatever he wants to believe, and say whatever he believes, even if its deemed to be a bit weird at times, but there are times where people conflict the meaning of science and the meaning of religion.

In the end, religion deals with the eternal question of "why". Science deals with "what" questions. And so while there are some grey areas in some areas, the difference between the two cannot be disputed.

So to say that dinosaur bones are fake, well, I guess, and to quote an US Senator, while he's entitled to his own opinions, he's not entitled to his own facts.

 

[Manchu]

and so humans are dealing with humans now, or is it? :p

Precisely. You've seen it happening in the past, you see it happening now, and you will continue to see this in the future !

 

[zhihau]

In the end, religion deals with the eternal question of "why". Science deals with "what" questions. And so while there are some grey areas in some areas, the difference between the two cannot be disputed.

i see no need to be diplomatic, both religion and science attempt to deal with questions of why, who, what, when, where, and how.

and to reconcile the two is when one understands how ignorant one is and the universe is too much for oneself to understand and one should see the fundamental purposes of life and how one makes meaningful purposes out of it all.

and to attribute the unknown to another entity altogether, supernatural or not, is entirely up to anyone's desires and faith, not to be imposed upon others and certainly not preached upon as the truth.

:p

 

[zhihau]

Precisely. You've seen it happening in the past, you see it happening now, and you will continue to see this in the future !

if only Homo sapiens can understand themselves a lil' better ;p

 

[The_Latest_H]

i see no need to be diplomatic, both religion and science attempt to deal with questions of why, who, what, when, where, and how.

and to reconcile the two is when one understands how ignorant one is and the universe is too much for oneself to understand and one should see the fundamental purposes of life and how one makes meaningful purposes out of it all.

and to attribute the unknown to another entity altogether, supernatural or not, is entirely up to anyone's desires and faith, not to be imposed upon others and certainly not preached upon as the truth.

:p

Well, I'd believe that if people believe that their religion is the right way, they have the right to believe in it. They even have the right to express it.

But as I said, no-one is entitled to their own set of facts; everyone's entitled to their own opinions. So while my faith is part of whom I am, I believe religion, like any thought and view, and like democracy, cannot be forced. And so if people wanna believe or convert, its up to them.

And certainly there's a separation between opinions and facts- and that's why when some do believe dinosaurs are fake, I think they have conflicted the meaning of religion and science in the first place.

 

[Manchu]

and to attribute the unknown to another entity altogether, supernatural or not, is entirely up to anyone's desires and faith, not to be imposed upon others and certainly not preached upon as the truth.

:p

Well put. Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion based on their religious faith, but you cannot disprove of the unknown.

 

[myjohnson]

and to attribute the unknown to another entity altogether, supernatural or not, is entirely up to anyone's desires and faith, not to be imposed upon others and certainly not preached upon as the truth.

Bro zhihau,

You are one of the few in this part of town whose views made sense. You have my respect.

 

[kakowi]

The Church of England, in particular the high church section, does not appear to be in control of its senses. One perhaps cannot expect much of a church whose rationale for its existence was because their english king wanted to commit adultery.

In what way has the theory of evolution been proven beyond doubt? Has Darwin been there at the point of evolution?

The same can be said of the creation story.

Therefore acceptance of either has to be an article of faith.

 

[zack123]

When God created Man, He gave each a brain to discover the world and its beauty. However He did let out a reminder:

You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not acquit anyone who misuses his name

The men of god had often misused God's name for their own convenience and to avoid the erosion of the their influence. And this has continued even until now.