NS training actually made Sinkie men weak?
Those women didn't even gone thru BMT...
1 got go BMT lah, maybe thats why she was last one.;-)
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Everest team welcomed home
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1 got go BMT lah, maybe thats why she was last one.;-)
I expect the girls to do NS, eventually.
Too many in the PAP have a vested interest in keeping NS going.
Sporean parents are leaving in droves & those still in Spore can't afford to produce enough children to satisfyl the PAP greed. The foreigners they are importing don't have to do NS so guess who they'll pick on next
so are our NSmen ever going up to the Everest?
http://tnp.sg/news/story/0,4136,204172,00.html?
They all made it to the top of Everest - except her
'I didn't want to put my teammates' lives at risk'
She was in tears when she decided to turn back because of unbearable chest pains
By Ng Tze Yong
June 06, 2009
BACK HOME AGAIN: The Natas Singapore Women's Everest Team members (from left) Joanne Soo, Jane Lee, Sim Yihui, Lee Lihui, Esther Tan and Lee Peh Gee at Changi International Airport on 1 Jun.
THE gutsy woman lets on that she teared - 'but only a little' - when she turned her back on the world's highest peak.
It was at 5am on the ascent of a treacherous glacier when the pain in Miss Sim Yihui's chest became unbearable. As she decided to turn around, tears welled up in her eyes.
This was their first summit attempt in mid-April, a month before they managed to conquer Mount Everest. And the pain had left her trailing far behind - by half an hour's climb, she reckoned - her teammates.
Every eight to 10 steps, she had to pause, lean on her ice axe, then pick up the pace to try to catch up with the others.
But the pain didn't go away. It got worse.
Alone in the cold and darkness, she finally stopped again and tried for one last time to wrestle back control of her body, and cling on to her dream.
But the air at 5,500m was thin. Ahead, the ice blocks, some as big as three double-decker buses, piled up into the sky.
PREPARATIONS: Sim Yihui (above, left) and Jane Lee warming up their canned food during a training trip to Sichuan, China. PICTURES: NATAS SINGAPORE WOMEN'S EVEREST, BH
Five agonising minutes later, Miss Sim finally turned and began gingerly picking her way back down, overwhelmed by emotion.
As she did so, she passed climbers from other teams heading up.
They asked about her, but she didn't answer. Couldn't find the words, she said. She just pointed to her chest.
And long after the line of climbers had passed, Miss Sim would turn back, time and again, to linger at the sight of the headlamps snaking their way into the night and battle the temptation to follow after.
This was the turning point that saw Miss Sim, a 26-year-old training facilitator at Raffles Junior College, return to Singapore as the only member of the Natas Singapore Women's Everest Team who didn't make it to the top.
In the two weeks since the team's success, news of her failed ascent had hung awkwardly as one-liners in otherwise jubilant reports.
The team crosses a crevasse with the help of a ladder in the Khumbu Icefall.
The group picture taken at Changi Airport on Monday night upon the team's return had her flashing the same megawatt smile as her teammates, but a caption awkwardly singled her out as the woman who didn't make it.
Initially, her failed ascent was attributed to 'reasons unknown'. Later, it was attributed to 'chest pain'.
But what really happened up in the clouds? What did she feel deep inside?
Meeting The New Paper on Wednesday, Miss Sim described how she battled against the elements - and herself - en route to Everest.
That night on the stretch of glacier known as the Khumbu Icefall, Miss Sim was trying to block out the pain that she had first experienced a few days before on an acclimatisation climb.
It had kept her awake at night. 'It felt like someone pressing down on my chest,' she said. 'I couldn't breathe.'
But she wasn't too worried as altitude sickness was common, even among mountaineers. In mid-April, she joined in the first summit attempt.
Most dangerous stretch
Reputed to be the most dangerous stretch of the Everest ascent, the Khumbu Icefall separates Base Camp (5,300m) from Camp One (6,100m).
The fast-moving ice here (it moves 0.9m to 1.2m per day) creates an extremely crevassed surface.
Climbers have to be fast. They start early to finish before midday when the ice starts to melt and render the path unstable.
It was here that Miss Sim turned back.
Said team coach Lim Kim Boon: 'A chest pain can mean anything. It can be the muscle, it can be the heart.
'At that altitude, we couldn't take chances.'
While the team continued their push to the top, Miss Sim called home from Base Camp and told her brother, a 25-year-old undergraduate, what had happened.
'She didn't dare call me,' said her mother, Madam Irene Ho, 59, a Mandarin teacher.
Madam Ho had been worried sick since the team left for Nepal, making frequent trips to the Goddess of Mercy temples at Joo Chiat and Waterloo Street.
After hearing the news from her son, Madam Ho called and e-mailed Miss Sim, but received no reply.
'I think she was trying to come to terms with it on her own first,' she said.
In the meantime, Madam Ho spent the next few nights tossing and turning in bed.
'I kept dreaming that Yihui called me and told me she was coming back. And then, I would wake up and realise it was all a dream.'
That summit attempt was eventually derailed by bad weather.
At Base Camp, while waiting for the weather to clear, Miss Sim sensed a second chance, and joined her teammates on easy acclimatisation climbs, even going down to a village at a lower altitude to try and recuperate.
She had been diagnosed by a doctor at Base Camp with costrochondritis - an inflammation of the breastbone and rib bone.
It is a condition that usually takes weeks to heal. The lack of oxygen at high altitude made it more difficult.
Up until the eve of the successful summit attempt, Miss Sim was in two minds as she watched her teammates pack.
But after a long talk with Mr Lim, good sense prevailed.
'We always said this was a team effort,' said Miss Sim. 'I didn't want to be rash and think that I had to reach the summit no matter what and put my teammates' lives at risk.'
For the next five days, Miss Sim stayed by the radio, tracking the progress of her team as it pushed for the summit.
On 20 May at 3.45am (Nepal time) as Miss Sim laid in her tent, the radio crackled to life.
'Dao le!' ('Arrived!' in Mandarin).
It was teammate Lee Li Hui, a 27-year-old lecturer. She had made it.
Her next words were: 'Yihui, this is for you.'
For the second time on the trip, Miss Sim cried, as she shouted into the receiver: 'Congrats! Take more photos!'
The other team members made it to the top, one by one, over the next few days.
Each time, Base Camp resonated with the clanging of pots and pans, the traditional way of marking a successful ascent.
As the team made its descent, Miss Sim busied herself with a flurry of phone calls to team members' loved ones and sponsors.
She also called her mother - finally.
The team finally reunited a few days later at the base of the glacier one late afternoon, embracing in a group hug,
'Most of us were crying,' said Miss Sim.
Back in Kathmandu, the team celebrated with a simple dinner at a Thai restaurant and a round of Everest Beer.
'Nobody felt bad for Yihui. There was no need to... it was a team victory,' said Mr Lim.
Will she try again?
'I don't want to give a definite yes or no at this point,' said Miss Sim.
After two months away from home, she just wants to 'spend time with my family and friends'.
They all made it to the top of Everest - except her
'I didn't want to put my teammates' lives at risk'
She was in tears when she decided to turn back because of unbearable chest pains
By Ng Tze Yong
June 06, 2009
BACK HOME AGAIN: The Natas Singapore Women's Everest Team members (from left) Joanne Soo, Jane Lee, Sim Yihui, Lee Lihui, Esther Tan and Lee Peh Gee at Changi International Airport on 1 Jun.
THE gutsy woman lets on that she teared - 'but only a little' - when she turned her back on the world's highest peak.
It was at 5am on the ascent of a treacherous glacier when the pain in Miss Sim Yihui's chest became unbearable. As she decided to turn around, tears welled up in her eyes.
This was their first summit attempt in mid-April, a month before they managed to conquer Mount Everest. And the pain had left her trailing far behind - by half an hour's climb, she reckoned - her teammates.
Every eight to 10 steps, she had to pause, lean on her ice axe, then pick up the pace to try to catch up with the others.
But the pain didn't go away. It got worse.
Alone in the cold and darkness, she finally stopped again and tried for one last time to wrestle back control of her body, and cling on to her dream.
But the air at 5,500m was thin. Ahead, the ice blocks, some as big as three double-decker buses, piled up into the sky.
PREPARATIONS: Sim Yihui (above, left) and Jane Lee warming up their canned food during a training trip to Sichuan, China. PICTURES: NATAS SINGAPORE WOMEN'S EVEREST, BH
Five agonising minutes later, Miss Sim finally turned and began gingerly picking her way back down, overwhelmed by emotion.
As she did so, she passed climbers from other teams heading up.
They asked about her, but she didn't answer. Couldn't find the words, she said. She just pointed to her chest.
And long after the line of climbers had passed, Miss Sim would turn back, time and again, to linger at the sight of the headlamps snaking their way into the night and battle the temptation to follow after.
This was the turning point that saw Miss Sim, a 26-year-old training facilitator at Raffles Junior College, return to Singapore as the only member of the Natas Singapore Women's Everest Team who didn't make it to the top.
In the two weeks since the team's success, news of her failed ascent had hung awkwardly as one-liners in otherwise jubilant reports.
The team crosses a crevasse with the help of a ladder in the Khumbu Icefall.
The group picture taken at Changi Airport on Monday night upon the team's return had her flashing the same megawatt smile as her teammates, but a caption awkwardly singled her out as the woman who didn't make it.
Initially, her failed ascent was attributed to 'reasons unknown'. Later, it was attributed to 'chest pain'.
But what really happened up in the clouds? What did she feel deep inside?
Meeting The New Paper on Wednesday, Miss Sim described how she battled against the elements - and herself - en route to Everest.
That night on the stretch of glacier known as the Khumbu Icefall, Miss Sim was trying to block out the pain that she had first experienced a few days before on an acclimatisation climb.
It had kept her awake at night. 'It felt like someone pressing down on my chest,' she said. 'I couldn't breathe.'
But she wasn't too worried as altitude sickness was common, even among mountaineers. In mid-April, she joined in the first summit attempt.
Most dangerous stretch
Reputed to be the most dangerous stretch of the Everest ascent, the Khumbu Icefall separates Base Camp (5,300m) from Camp One (6,100m).
The fast-moving ice here (it moves 0.9m to 1.2m per day) creates an extremely crevassed surface.
Climbers have to be fast. They start early to finish before midday when the ice starts to melt and render the path unstable.
It was here that Miss Sim turned back.
Said team coach Lim Kim Boon: 'A chest pain can mean anything. It can be the muscle, it can be the heart.
'At that altitude, we couldn't take chances.'
While the team continued their push to the top, Miss Sim called home from Base Camp and told her brother, a 25-year-old undergraduate, what had happened.
'She didn't dare call me,' said her mother, Madam Irene Ho, 59, a Mandarin teacher.
Madam Ho had been worried sick since the team left for Nepal, making frequent trips to the Goddess of Mercy temples at Joo Chiat and Waterloo Street.
After hearing the news from her son, Madam Ho called and e-mailed Miss Sim, but received no reply.
'I think she was trying to come to terms with it on her own first,' she said.
In the meantime, Madam Ho spent the next few nights tossing and turning in bed.
'I kept dreaming that Yihui called me and told me she was coming back. And then, I would wake up and realise it was all a dream.'
That summit attempt was eventually derailed by bad weather.
At Base Camp, while waiting for the weather to clear, Miss Sim sensed a second chance, and joined her teammates on easy acclimatisation climbs, even going down to a village at a lower altitude to try and recuperate.
She had been diagnosed by a doctor at Base Camp with costrochondritis - an inflammation of the breastbone and rib bone.
It is a condition that usually takes weeks to heal. The lack of oxygen at high altitude made it more difficult.
Up until the eve of the successful summit attempt, Miss Sim was in two minds as she watched her teammates pack.
But after a long talk with Mr Lim, good sense prevailed.
'We always said this was a team effort,' said Miss Sim. 'I didn't want to be rash and think that I had to reach the summit no matter what and put my teammates' lives at risk.'
For the next five days, Miss Sim stayed by the radio, tracking the progress of her team as it pushed for the summit.
On 20 May at 3.45am (Nepal time) as Miss Sim laid in her tent, the radio crackled to life.
'Dao le!' ('Arrived!' in Mandarin).
It was teammate Lee Li Hui, a 27-year-old lecturer. She had made it.
Her next words were: 'Yihui, this is for you.'
For the second time on the trip, Miss Sim cried, as she shouted into the receiver: 'Congrats! Take more photos!'
The other team members made it to the top, one by one, over the next few days.
Each time, Base Camp resonated with the clanging of pots and pans, the traditional way of marking a successful ascent.
As the team made its descent, Miss Sim busied herself with a flurry of phone calls to team members' loved ones and sponsors.
She also called her mother - finally.
The team finally reunited a few days later at the base of the glacier one late afternoon, embracing in a group hug,
'Most of us were crying,' said Miss Sim.
Back in Kathmandu, the team celebrated with a simple dinner at a Thai restaurant and a round of Everest Beer.
'Nobody felt bad for Yihui. There was no need to... it was a team victory,' said Mr Lim.
Will she try again?
'I don't want to give a definite yes or no at this point,' said Miss Sim.
After two months away from home, she just wants to 'spend time with my family and friends'.
True, but what's the deal about repeatedly beating a dead horse? I mean Mt. Everest is conquered so many times. The Nepalese unlike you Singaporean wimps can do it like a second hobby without oxygen equipment and all. They are the real mountain climbers.
So what's next? Under 16 team? Then the infants team? Yeah by that time even foetuses would be well-informed from the communications tube and tear out of their mothers' wombs to compete too.
look at their face, you can tell which one is more appearance conscience.
the one with red face, have frostbite, which mean they did not apply enough protection on their face.
the one without red face, must be applying lots of protection on face and body or cover face very well, like muslim.
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Ehh, why then do they need a Women's Charter?
I'm sure that the men of Spore wouldn't mind sharing NS with the girls.
In this day of equal rights don't you think it should apply to both men & women
That's because the uneducated Sinkee men were bashing up the women for no reason. The govt formulated rules to protect the women.
Ehh, why then do they need a Women's Charter?
I'm sure that the men of Spore wouldn't mind sharing NS with the girls.
In this day of equal rights don't you think it should apply to both men & women
yeah, given the women are proven to be physically more capable then the men, the Singapore government should considering implementing NS for women. I bet morale will be boosted in the SAF, particularly from the NSF enlistee ranks.
SAF definitely need more babes than these 2 (see attachment), hahaha.
Cheers,
Trout
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Is there such a thing as an uneducated Spore men
Do you know that its against the law not to go to schoo What kind of decent job can males get without an education.
With NS in place, men are already dsadvantaged. So who is the womens charter suppose to protect, if there is "justice" in Spore the laws should protect everyone & not just women
I'm surprise LKY hasn't thought about having the oldest & highest paid team go to Everest
Just imagine the dream team : LKY, the Prataman, Wooden Goh.... Its a win-win situation for Spore. If they succeed they bring glory to Spore. if they fail badly, we might save some $$$
What you say is true for guys. For the ladies team it is still a major accomplishmnt.
look at their face, you can tell which one is more appearance conscience.
the one with red face, have frostbite, which mean they did not apply enough protection on their face.
the one without red face, must be applying lots of protection on face and body or cover face very well, like muslim.
But summarily speaking, they are all ugly.
I'm surprise LKY hasn't thought about having the oldest & highest paid team go to Everest
Just imagine the dream team : LKY, the Prataman, Wooden Goh.... Its a win-win situation for Spore. If they succeed they bring glory to Spore. if they fail badly,
Hahahhahahaahahaha. Nah I think they will just make a royal submit there by helicopter with the Nepalese officials, and shake hands and exaggerate each other's achievements and then before the cakes and coffee they sign some pieces of fresh virgin pulp paper with very good handwriting I mean printing and declare that they would help each other's trade and economic development in the future no matter how much of that is really true or even relevant, topping the pronouncement off really artfully with the raped adage that no one in this world could survive alone.
Hahahahhahahaha I actually laughed again at the ludicrous proposition when I read what I wrote.
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