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End of the PAP Ride?

kukubird58

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Breaking through a GRC would be good enough for me, and my money's on Sylvia Lim and her team in Aljunied. .

hahaha...ah Forv...the margin in 2006 was around 43% vs 57%....
it is really not as close as many pple make it up to be.....
it is an uphill task....
better give me a treat then throw your money away....
 

theblackhole

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what end?

the pap ride will ride until the sun dries up...

eternally forever pap....you know or not..

pap can never die....even the sun, the moon and stars disappear from the unvivers...the lightning will continue to strike...

you know or not...
 

Forvendet

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hahaha...ah Forv...the margin in 2006 was around 43% vs 57%....
it is really not as close as many pple make it up to be.....
it is an uphill task....
better give me a treat then throw your money away....

Yes, there's 7 to 8% to catch up on but it's looking easier now with the two mad men out of the way, i.e. GMS and James G.
 

Forvendet

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hahaha...u don't know who will be replacing them....maybe pple like kukubird and uncle botak..

Hey, you guys are fun when it's past-time chitchatting and makes sense when it's serious issues. By the way, who's Uncle Botak? The guy with the bald headed avatar?
 

KNNBCCB

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Hey, you guys are fun when it's past-time chitchatting and makes sense when it's serious issues. By the way, who's Uncle Botak? The guy with the bald headed avatar?

Yes. Tat guy ... middaydog... Uncle Botak..
We are fun and mad men ... :biggrin:
 

scroobal

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I am actually suprised by the responses that I see here. I had the distinct impression that the ground shifted significantly away from the PAP and they are on the defensive.

I do acknowledge that PAP will continue to govern and still hold most seat but surely the votes will be lesser and the the possibililty of another seat or GRC to the opposition.

I can't think of a time when the PAP ran out of ideas, struggling to be convincing and having great difficulty with having to structure the economy.

There is also the liberal young who will be coming into vote and the communist bogeyman politics will have no truck with them. The fear factor will no longer make sense in the world of internet.

Am I missing something.
 

kukubird58

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I am actually suprised by the responses that I see here. I had the distinct impression that the ground shifted significantly away from the PAP and they are on the defensive.

.......

There is also the liberal young who will be coming into vote and the communist bogeyman politics will have no truck with them. The fear factor will no longer make sense in the world of internet.

Am I missing something.

No sir....you are not missing anything but not sure how you get the impression that the ground has shifted significantly away from Papee...
If it is through internet forums, then it is just self reinforcements of views.
Many of the cyber warriors are anti-papee.
It is fashionable to bash them and even sinkies at large.
I am not familiar with other forums but if you look at sammyboy:

1. On line members are usually less than 50.
2. Active on line members are even less.
3. Even guests are only few hundreds most of the time.

Sinkaporeans are known to complain and grumble a lot.
We have also gone through ups and downs in the economy.
So actually nothing is new.
More importantly, it is the "present" state of opposition as a whole.
I think it is even more fragmented and dis-united that before.
 

Watchman

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So life still goes on .
PAP still win as usual since opposition no better .
PAP is like 3 million strong .
 

Dreamer1

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<There is also the liberal young who will be coming into vote and the communist bogeyman politics will have no truck with them. The fear factor will no longer make sense in the world of internet. >

<There is also the liberal young who will be coming into vote and the ... The fear factor will no longer make sense in the world of internet. ... be coming into vote and the communist bogeyman politics will have no truck with them. >
(There is also the liberal young who will be coming into vote and the communist bogeyman politics will have no truck with them.The fear factor will no longer make sense in the world of internet)

You are absolutely correct in this.

MM LKY acknowledge it as well,for a while and reading the new interview book by 160th report today,it is confirmed that even a 200% compiled press could not hide the fact that MM LKY is losing touch,he is an old man destined for history book

It is funny that most of the journalists do not seen to understand this point from such extensive interactions with the man,very old man!
 

aurvandil

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I am actually suprised by the responses that I see here. I had the distinct impression that the ground shifted significantly away from the PAP and they are on the defensive.

The PAP is on the defensive. Those who work the ground know this. As I said it time and time again, the silent majority is not the stupid majority.

As you pointed out in your original postings, the bad polices have affected so many people. On HDB housing, it is not only the young looking to start a family who are pissed. The young people have parents who hope to see their children get married and have children. There is anger when they see these critical life plans derailed because of Minister Mah's "affordable" HDB pricing policy. Ditto for siblings, uncles, aunts and other relatives. Come this CNY at the family gatherings, umarried young people who cannot afford a HDB flat will be at the top of discussion when the familes get together. From there, the discussion will move on to other bad policy mistakes like the sky high COE, high medical bills etc.

To damage control, it is important not to let the shifting of the ground be widely known. This is because if it is widely believed that the PAP is losing ground, then the Opposition will be emboldened. There will be more people stepping foward and the Opposition challenge will be so much stronger. Hence a concerted effort on all fronts to sell the koyok that the PAP is wildly popular and the "incompetent" Opposition doesn't stand a chance. The irony is that because no one knows who is who in the propaganda effort, some of the PAP actually end up falling for their own propaganda.

The truth cannot be hidden forever. It will come out when the elections are held and the votes are counted. I stand by my original projection of the PAP winning only 55% to 60% of the popular vote. Given the way the past few months have turned out, the more likely result is toward 55%. The true battle is however still not this election but in the following election in 2017 where the P65 who have suffered massively under PAP misrule will make up 70% of the electorate.
 
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kukubird58

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To damage control, it is important not to let the shifting of the ground be widely known. This is because if it is widely believed that the PAP is losing ground, then the Opposition will be emboldened. There will be more people stepping foward and the Opposition challenge will be so much stronger. Hence a concerted effort on all fronts to sell the koyok that the PAP is wildly popular and the "incompetent" Opposition doesn't stand a chance. The irony is that because no one knows who is who in the propaganda effort, some of the PAP actually end up falling for their own propaganda.

Oops...you just let the cat out of the bag........now you have to do further damage control..
 

myfoot123

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I predict 90% votes to go to PAP and oppos left with 1 seat in Parliament.

If that really happen, I am going to lock myself away for the rest of my live because I will be too ashamed of our hopeless sinkies who prefer to be exploited by PAP for many generations to come.
 
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