End of the PAP Ride?

[po2wq]

Bro .... your wife can cook up a fiery Devil's curry ?? :o:o

siow tien in a pink g-string can cook u a curvy, fiery devil ... :p

 

[Equalisation]

siow tien in a pink g-string can cook u a curvy, fiery devil ... :p

Have manners, my boy !!

You cannot equate food with human meat !!!:o:oIo:

 

[Forvendet]

Bro .... your wife can cook up a fiery Devil's curry ?? :o:o

My wife can only do simple cooking like frying eggs, bacon and ham. I don't think putting stuff into the microwave oven count as cooking. :o

 

[Equalisation]

My wife can only do simple cooking like frying eggs, bacon and ham. I don't think putting stuff into the microwave oven count as cooking. :o

Ooops sorry ....

I was thinking you may better the Palmer's household cooking (which is good) since you are an Eurasian ....:o:o

 

[po2wq]

... I was thinking you may better the Palmer's household cooking (which is good) ... :o:o

walan eh! ...

u got sow tien oredi sum mor go visit lady palmer's household 2 seek her 5 dotters ... :o :p

 

[yellow_people]

Agreed, the Malays will always support PAP, the ruling party. The general feeling among the Malays is that only PAP can protect their rights & status. In what way can an oppo party like WP help them? They are thus very different from the Chinese minority in Malaysia who we know seldom vote for the ruling coalition (BN). Indian support for WP has diminished somewhat with the departure of JBJ. Finally, PAP does not really need (for now) the support from new citizen voters to win GE. The support from Malays and voters who are government employees (directly or indirectly) are sufficient to ensure victory.

The PAP is concerned with a new group of disenfranchised voter that was absent in 2006. This new group is the 35 to 40s something PMETs. The typical profile of the voter in this group is, as stated 35-40s somethings, Chinese and mostly male. These voter is extremely unhappy with being squeezed out of the market by the FTs; especially by the Pinoys and Ah Nehs.

The PAP will counter this group of voters though the usual trickery of gerrymander (boundary changes) and a bagful of election bonuses and goodies. If that fails, the new citizen’s vote will be a hedge and crucial to the PAP to stem the tide from the loss of these votes. The net loss of this votes should not be significant in the end.



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[Equalisation]

walan eh! ...

u got sow tien oredi sum mor go visit lady palmer's household 2 seek her 5 dotters ... :o :p

smlj ??

Devil's curry now become lust ?? U siow ah? Perverted Old Man !!!

 

[singveld]

Looks like the PAP is slowly but surely coming to an end of a long ride. A ride that dragged 2 generations by the nose.
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You underestimate the power of the stupidity of sinkies.

 

[yellow_people]

But it’s not all doom and gloom. The PAP and LKY in particular are skilled and understand very well the herd instinct of the Confucian majority. The number of NCMP (best losers) has been increased from 3 to 9; with more SMCs craved out and smaller GRCs. Unpopular PAP MP according to how they rank will be thrown to the dogs in these SMCs to see how many of them survive. Likely candidates should be LBW and Vivian. The latter in particular will serve as a good venting outlet for disenfranchised Ah Beng who will relish revenge having lost out to Pinoy/Ah Neh. Sylvia Low as mentioned will be a likely candidate and a front runner for the $14k pay day.

In the end both PAP and the conservative oppositions including Confucian voters will get the victory they all seek and truly deserve, whilst the real threats have been either bankrolled or exiled. There will be 9 opposition MP + NCMP (best loser) in parliament to be exact. Ah Beng will be thrilled at the prospect of more “opposition” to the so-called counter PAP strategy. All very stage managed of course. And the PAP will have achieved its goal – no more than 9 seats to opposition as planned; an Ah Beng electorate that is satisfied ( ergo, ripe for another 6 years of stuffing durians up Beng’s tender arse while the 9 opposition MPs watch with folded arms ). More importantly PAP can remind visiting foreign dignitaries that Singapore is a fully functioning “democracy”. “Look at how well our opposition parties have done?” our ministers will cry to foreign dignitaries.

 

[Forvendet]

Sylvia Low as mentioned will be a likely candidate and a front runner for the $14k pay day.

You seem to be so bothered with the MP pay that you're bringing it up in your every other posting. All opposition and PAP MPs get the same pay, don't they? Then all of them must be in it for the money, as you insinuate. Anyway, I'm more bothered with the multi-million dollar ministerial pay.

 

[yellow_people]

You seem to be so bothered with the MP pay that you're bringing it up in your every other posting. All opposition and PAP MPs get the same pay, don't they? Then all of them must be in it for the money, as you insinuate. Anyway, I'm more bothered with the multi-million dollar ministerial pay.

I mentioned a lot of other points but you choose to pick this particular one. But you are correct. All oppositon MPs and PAP MPs get the same pay. That is why we will continue to have more opposition MPs in the mould of PAP. LTK, SL and CST.

 

[Forvendet]

I mentioned a lot of other points but you choose to pick this particular one. But you are correct. All oppositon MPs and PAP MPs get the same pay. That is why we will continue to have more opposition MPs in the mould of PAP. LTK, SL and CST.

So your point is, if I may hazard a guess, to lower MP pay to bare minimal covering expenses, so that people don't contest elections for money?

 

[yellow_people]

You seem to be so bothered with the MP pay that you're bringing it up in your every other posting. All opposition and PAP MPs get the same pay, don't they? Then all of them must be in it for the money, as you insinuate. Anyway, I'm more bothered with the multi-million dollar ministerial pay.

And I'm not insinuating anything. These are facts. Listen to Steve Chia, barely 5 months as an NCMP arguing for his NCMP allowance to be raised 600%. And he's not even an MP to begin with.





http://www.parliament.gov.sg/reports...0002_T0006.htm

2002 Budget Debate: Parliament -- NCMP honorarium
Wed, May 15, 2002

Mr Steve Chia Kiah Hong: Thank you, Sir. Thank you, Mr Chiam, for speaking up for me

Sir, the Senior Minister had once said, "If you pay peanuts, you will get monkeys." I agree with the Senior Minister on this matter. Last month, the House had a passionate debate on NMPs and voted strongly to have them in this House. It had been said that NMPs were very good and had contributed a lot of good debate to this House. I was not here then, but I do not deny that they contributed a lot. I think NMPs had helped to liven up debates in the past, but I went to argue that there was no need for them in this session of this House, because the PAP Government was freeing up its MPs for more debates and disagreements, and this would help solve the cynicism and scepticism in youths. It was not listened to and I was out-voted.

Now that we are going to get NMPs in this House, I would want to speak up for them too. I think we should give them their due recognition. The honorarium of an NMP is at 15% of an elected MP's allowance. This is too little. Like all MPs, they have the duty to speak up and engage in good debates. We should therefore recognise their contribution and pay them an NMP allowance equivalent to 40% or more of the elected MP's allowance, instead of a small honorarium of just 15%.

As for the NCMP's honorarium, Sir, I would like to declare my personal direct interest in this matter. An NCMP is not quite, but is close to a political appointment. We know that when the PAP Government wins all the seats, there will be at least three such NCMP appointments.

Our role, as NCMPs, is as heavy as an elected MP. We are not only expected to be robust and vigorous in speaking up in Parliament and contributing to good debates. We are also contributing to nation building by giving the perspective of the non-PAP voters which number about 10-30%, depending on which election. This is important for the Government that takes pride in caring for all its people. On top of speaking in Parliament, the Non-Constituency Member of Parliament has to cover as many electoral constituencies as possible and get the feeling and understanding of the citizens, especially of those who are not supportive of Government policies. We have to understand their grievances and raise them in Parliament. Like all the elected MPs, constituency work is to build rapport and support with the electorate for the next election. This is the same duty as any of the elected MPs. Therefore, I hope the Prime Minister will agree with my above reasoning and look into reinstating the NCMP allowance to be on par with all the elected MPs, as it was first crafted. My next cut is on legislative and secretarial assistance for NMP and NCMP. Sir, I would like to state my direct interest in this matter again. Like all MPs, NMPs and NCMPs are invited into Parliament to represent a different viewpoint from the PAP Government. They are expected to speak up with sound advice, research and argument, to raise issues and discuss policies and contribute to parliamentary debate. Therefore, will the Prime Minister also agree with me that it is necessary for NMPs and NCMPs to be given legislative and secretarial allowance to employ help? Does the House not want to hear more contributions and more in-depth debates from these NMPs and NCMPs?

Steve Chia

 

[Forvendet]

And I'm not insinuating anything. These are facts. Listen to Steve Chia, barely 5 months as an NCMP arguing for his NCMP allowance to be raised 600%. And he's not even an MP to begin with.

That episode I didn't know. Thanks for enlightening. Yes, it's quite unbecoming to argue for one's own payrise using time and platform that's meant for national issues. I thought only PAP does that.

 

[yellow_people]

So your point is, if I may hazard a guess, to lower MP pay to bare minimal covering expenses, so that people don't contest elections for money?

As far as contesting elections are concerned; a lower electoral deposit would be more beneficial then high salaries/allowance. High salaries potentially draw yes-man like the PAPies, opportunists and career politicians like CST. One man party CST is going to bequeath, (pass down) PP to his wife knowing full well he wouldn’t last a full term. LTK after 2 decades is contend with Hougang and Sylvia Lim is likely to ditch Aljunied leaderless and run for a more lucrative SMC. Only time will tell.

That does not mean there aren't good opposition politicans around. But they have become far and few with none at present in parliament. Every wonder, why those with the electorate's genuine concern and welfare do not make it to parliament? Or even if they do, like JBJ are bankrolled and forced to vacate their seats?


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[GoldenDragon]

I mentioned a lot of other points but you choose to pick this particular one. But you are correct. All oppositon MPs and PAP MPs get the same pay. That is why we will continue to have more opposition MPs in the mould of PAP. LTK, SL and CST.

SL is not opposition MP. She gets 1.5k, I think.

 

[GoldenDragon]

I doubt very much that WP can wrestle Aljunied GRC from PAP, particular with Sylvia Lim's performance. Though many had placed high hopes on Sylvia initially, her performance in parliament thus far had been mediocre at best. She is probably best known for "Singapore laws are fair and just", .. a comment no doubt made to appease the PAP, oblivious to the fact that her former party leader, the late JBJ, was persecuted by those very kangaroo laws. Whatever potential and enthusiasm the voters in Aljunied had in 2006 about Sylvia has all but diminished. Even Sylvia Lim knows that.

Rumours circulating that she may be abandoning Aljunied GRC to contest in a single-ward seat in the coming GE. The lure of that extra 14k MP allowance she can pocket monthly must surely be tantalising for our political conformist. I'm pretty sure the PAP will be delighted to have onboard yet another as a bona fide MP to showcase our wayang parliamentary "democracy".

Not at the very least, LTK can boast to his detractors that WP's seat in parliament has increased by 100% since 2006; from 1 MP to 2. I guess this is what happens to opposition candidates when Ah Beng unequivocally states he’ll vote for maggot, worms, dog, donkey or vermin over PAP. Be careful cause sometimes you may get exactly what you wish for.

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If SL is looking for 14k MP allowance, she can easily make more then double that amount by remaining as a lawyer. She doesn't need the money. Her old man is rich enough and she owns properties. Get to know her better and you may change your perception of SL. Find out what car she is driving and you get a clearer picture.

 

[kukubird58]

If SL is looking for 14k MP allowance, she can easily make more then double that amount by remaining as a lawyer. She doesn't need the money. Her old man is rich enough and she owns properties. Get to know her better and you may change your perception of SL. Find out what car she is driving and you get a clearer picture.

Bro Dragon......don't think she has said she will be a full time MP....
i think she is still single..not sure if she has any companion....tell her kukubird is available.

 

[Ramseth]

Bro Dragon......don't think she has said she will be a full time MP....
i think she is still single..not sure if she has any companion....tell her kukubird is available.

Shoo shoo, go away, fly somewhere else. She's not your Gugu.

 

[Equalisation]

If SL is looking for 14k MP allowance, she can easily make more then double that amount by remaining as a lawyer. She doesn't need the money. Her old man is rich enough and she owns properties. Get to know her better and you may change your perception of SL. Find out what car she is driving and you get a clearer picture.

Remarkable lady if I may say the least.

Got to know her situation when sometimes drink stout with her uncle few years back .....