Crumbling of Singapore?

[TracyTan866]

that is new...then tell me which country has a equal wealth distribution? East Timor? Fiji island ?? Nepal?

there can be no total equal distribution of wealth. I think what he meant was the severe unequal distribution in SG...indeed that's a big problem

 

[TracyTan866]

Despite his far-sightedness, I dont think LKY, ten years ago, could have imagined the following:

1. The PAP is in danger of losing power in GE 2016 or GE 2021
2. The concept of GRC comes back to haunt the PAP
3. Singapore is such a divided country in 2012
4. Ironically, his son, LHL, is destroying Singapore with his divisive and unwise policies
5. The PAP is the most hated political party in SG

 

[TracyTan866]

VB yesterday said that 35% of Singaporeans wld litter if they were not caught. Looks like he is likely to increase penalties and go all out to caught Singaporean litter bugs. But that is only have the battle. has VB and his MEWR staff truly look into the root cause of the litter problem? To say that it's 35% of singaporeans is the problem is to miss the forest for the trees.

Does VB realise that SG's population increased by 2m and these are mainly 3rd world cheap migrants who come in with their 3rd world social habits and who refuse to integrate into SG society? Is this the root cause of the litter and social problems in SG?

The pap has grossly mismanaged SG.

When the pap deliberated on bringing in millions of PRC, Indian and filipino cheap labour migrant , where was :

1. MEWR?. Did MEWR staff advise the Cabinet of the littering problems with 5m+ people including 2m+ 3rd world migrant labour who are used to spitting nad littering in public?

2. MND?. Did MND staff advise the cabinet of the shortage of housing for these 2m migrants, the implications of high housing costs to Singapore?

3. MOT?. Did MOT staff advise the Cabinet on road congestion, inadequate buses and MRTs to transport these 2m migrant labour?

4. MOH?. Did MOH staff advise the Cabinet on the shortage of health care workers and hospital beds to cater to this 2m increase of population?

5. MTI? . Did MTI staff advise the Cabinet on the impact these cheap labour have on the cost and standard of living of native Singaporeans and the implications of a cheap wage policy?

6. MCYS?. Did MCYS staff advise the Cabinet on the social problems these 2m people caused to SG?

Even if the ministries had neglected to give their professional advice and inputs, the PM and DPMs should have the common sense to know the costs and implications of the cheap labour migrant policy.

Anyway we look at the issue, there is only one conclusion ie..The PAP has grossly mismanaged SG over the last five years.

The crumbling of Singapore has started and is gathering momentum

 

[Fook Seng]

VB yesterday said that 35% of Singaporeans wld litter if they were not caught. Looks like he is likely to increase penalties and go all out to caught Singaporean litter bugs.

How did he come to this conclusion? If he was referring to the percentage of the population who are new immigrants, I would agree with him. If he was just guessing and make policy changes based on this, it is no different from going to the Casino and betting on colours at the roulettes.

 

[TracyTan866]

How did he come to this conclusion? If he was referring to the percentage of the population who are new immigrants, I would agree with him. If he was just guessing and make policy changes based on this, it is no different from going to the Casino and betting on colours at the roulettes.

You are right.

VB claimed that he got mthe figure from a survey. He sees what he wants to see and takes the survey result as the gospel truth and uses it to hammer Singaporeans..does he not know that survey figures are just that and can be manipulated.

Survey results are not facts but just data gathered with a wide margin of error and he shd use it with caution

 

[TracyTan866]

Drug abuses are increasing

Loan shark activities are increasing

Younger teenagers are helping in loan shark activities

Crimes are increasing

Suicide numbers are increasing

queues are getting longer

cost of living is very high

wages are depressed

gambling is increasing

inflation rate is high

pap seems to have no solution to SG's problems

Singaporeans are getting increasingly disillusioned with the govt

native singaporeans/ foreigners divide is getting wider

wage gap between rich and poor are getting wider

prostitution activities are increasing

vices are proliferating

debts are rising

credit card defaults are increasing

number of poor is increasing

many poor Singaporeans are selling their hdb flats and moving to Malaysia

many young singaporeans are migrating

many high level civil servants are abusing their positions

some PRC scholar holders are openly showing dissatisfaction and defiance towards the pap

economy is faltering

exports are falling

productivity is stagnating

pap is self serving rather that serving SG

fertility rate is falling

etc

 

[TracyTan866]

The Crumbling of Singapore:

“When I visited Singapore last month, I was shocked by the large number of PRC FTs in the City. They seem to be everywhere, pushing, shouting plus exhibiting all the bad habits from China. I have lived and worked in China for more than ten years and have known lots of intelligent, well mannered and polite Chinese. Somehow, these Chinese FTs in Singapore are taken from the very bottom of the barrel. It looks as if China has deliberately released their undesirable people to Singapore to relieve it of its social burden. Very, very few FTs can speak English, Singlish or the basic Chinese dialects of Singapore. They speak their own Mandarin with heavy countryside accents. From my experience, these are the rough and tough Chinese I have seen in China who cannot be easily intimidated by police as they have nothing to lose. It would be a nightmare for Singapore police if these FTs decide to go on riots because of lack of jobs. The police cannot assume that it would be as easy as dealing with kiasi native Singaporeans. For example, I was physically attacked by a Chinese FT in Chinatown just for telling him not to ride his bicycle in the pedestrian path. These people have no qualm beating up an old man or anybody.

Native Singaporeans are losing out in every sector of the economy – jobs, housing, education, etc. to this huge influx of new immigrants. They take over most of the jobs in the service industries, i.e. hotels, food courts, retail centres, hawker centres, etc. and now native Singaporeans have to speak their language in order to get any service or anything done. Most local food are no longer authentic but blended with Mainland Chinese cooking flavor. Native Singaporeans are losing their identities, culture, local cuisine and very soon their Singlish and future.”

 

[TracyTan866]

The Crumbling Of Singapore:

Seah CN:

"suicide rates among Singaporeans and permanent residents rose to 361 in 2011 from 353 the previous year, said Samaritans of Singapore.

Recently a Caucasian tourist asked in a letter to information website Temasektimes: “Where are the friendly Singaporeans?”

“Nobody smiles or returns a greeting anymore,” said long-time observer Brian Wilson, a regular visitor for 25 years."

 

[Libertadores]

Singapore will not crumble, don't worry

Agreed. SG will not crumble just yet. Our Lau Lee is still around.

 

[Libertadores]

yes..u r right..the real vote will come when singaporeans know how the pap works...time is on the side of the 40 %...the 60% will swing towards the 40%...the pap knows its days are numbered

I'm afraid a 40-60% vote swing will not happen even in the next GE. The current GRC system still works in favour of the PAP, so no matter what they'll always gain the upper hand over the opposition.

 

[TracyTan866]

With the first illegal work strike in 26years by PRC bus drivers, the first can of worms has been opened.

Singaporeans have voiced out against unwise PAP policies of running SG like a corporation, chasing GDP at all costs, flooding SG with 3rd world migrants, etc.

But the pap leaders have ignored their pleas and now this first can of worms has opened.

Will the PAP now do what is lawful and right, follow SG's law by identifying the ring leaders, arrest them for illegal strike, charge them , jail them and deport the 102 illegal strikers?

or will the PAP chicken out now and accommodate the illegal strikers requests?

There are consequences both ways.

Let's wait and see what kind of substance the pap is made of.

 

[TracyTan866]

Agreed. SG will not crumble just yet. Our Lau Lee is still around.

yes...but do you see the crumbling of SG if the pap continues with their unwise policies?

 

[TracyTan866]

I'm afraid a 40-60% vote swing will not happen even in the next GE. The current GRC system still works in favour of the PAP, so no matter what they'll always gain the upper hand over the opposition.

I agree there will not be a 40% vote swing at the next GE. That would be too drastic for the pap.

I am hoping for a 10% swing. Is that possible at the next GE?

It will be interesting to see the pap getting just abt 50% of the votes.

 

[TracyTan866]

I expect TCJ, as a a junior minister, will recommend the lawful legal course..prosecute the ring leaders and jail them and deport the illegal strikers.

But will LHL have the courage to do the lawful and right thing? Will LHL yield to the demands of the PRC drivers?

 

[zhihau]

I expect TCJ, as a a junior minister, will recommend the lawful legal course..prosecute the ring leaders and jail them and deport the illegal strikers.

But will LHL have the courage to do the lawful and right thing? Will LHL yield to the demands of the PRC drivers?

you are a cyber meanie. much as illegal strikes are unlawful, how can you condone the disparity in the wages of Foreign Workers of different nationalities? me propose that all the foreign workers be paid on the same scales and same benefits.

 

[TracyTan866]

you are a cyber meanie. much as illegal strikes are unlawful, how can you condone the disparity in the wages of Foreign Workers of different nationalities? me propose that all the foreign workers be paid on the same scales and same benefits.

You misunderstood me. I support the PRC drivers' cause. I agree with their actions. But on the other hand, bear in mind we are not comparing apple to apple.

But the pap has always carried a big stick...look at the way they treated Singaporeans and Opposition members. This is a test case for them whether they dare to continue to use the law to stifle a righteous demand.

 

[TracyTan866]

you are a cyber meanie. much as illegal strikes are unlawful, how can you condone the disparity in the wages of Foreign Workers of different nationalities? me propose that all the foreign workers be paid on the same scales and same benefits.

the pap has classified it as an illegal strike.

now it has painted itself into a corner. the consequences and punishments for illegal strike are clearly spelt out.

now what will the pap do in this case of an illegal strike?

 

[TracyTan866]

you are a cyber meanie. much as illegal strikes are unlawful, how can you condone the disparity in the wages of Foreign Workers of different nationalities? me propose that all the foreign workers be paid on the same scales and same benefits.

i have always been against discriminatory practices and injustices. it is the pap which always quoted and used the law depsite obvious injustices.

Here is a case of injustice against the PRC drivers...will the pap now chicken out and dare not use the law?

 

[Rumpole]

the pap has classified it as an illegal strike.

Let's be very clear about this - strikes are LEGAL in almost all peaceful FIRST WORLD countries. Just because there is a law it does not follow that the law is FAIR, especially if it is a law enacted by the PAP. The PAP is well known for coming up with laws that skew the game in its favour including laws that make us the laughing stock of the world like one man or woman can constitute an illegal assembly.

What is the Catholic Church’s view of unjust laws? Well, at paragraph 398 of the Compendium of the Catholic Church's Social Doctrine, it is stated:

"Authority must enact just laws, that is, laws that correspond to the dignity of the human person and to what is required by right reason. “Human law is law insofar as it corresponds to right reason and therefore is derived from the eternal law. When, however, a law is contrary to reason, it is called an unjust law; in such a case it ceases to be law and becomes instead an act of violence”. Authority that governs according to reason places citizens in a relationship not so much of subjection to another person as of obedience to the moral order and, therefore, to God himself who is its ultimate source. Whoever refuses to obey an authority that is acting in accordance with the moral order “resists what God has appointed” (Rom 13:2). Analogously, whenever public authority — which has its foundation in human nature and belongs to the order pre-ordained by God — fails to seek the common good, it abandons its proper purpose and so delegitimises itself."

In the context of this labour dispute, what has the NTUC done for the suffering workers? Remember, the NTUC has been slowly transformed into an instrument of the PAP and employers. So much so that Zorro says that the NTUC is against minimum wages. Imagine this, a trade union is against minimum wages! What will this clown say next? That the NTUC is in favour of labour exploitation because it helps our GDP to grow faster and the ministers' salary to get more OUT OF THIS WORLD!

If the union fails to do its job, it is time for the workers to peacefully struggle for their rights including taking strike action, regardless of how the PAP suka suka classify this strike.

FIRST WORLD countries have GENUINE trade unions that fight for workers' rights whereas SINKIELAND has a no portfolio Zorro.

This strike should be supported. In fact, it should inspire strikes in other sectors, led by SG workers for a change.

 

[zhihau]

This is a test case for them whether they dare to continue to use the law to stifle a righteous demand.

now what will the pap do in this case of an illegal strike?

will the pap now chicken out and dare not use the law?

me would be watching this development closely with a heightened sense of curiosity... :p:p:p