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Crumbling of Singapore?

ckmpd

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agree with you, Tracy. Two factors that will cause crumble of Singapore are:

1. PAP govt in business, competing unfair and having great advantage against private businesses
2. SG govt run by incompetent military guys who know only military laws and why are obedient to the boss
 

ckmpd

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It's not Singapore govt's responsibility to help foreigners get jobs in Singapore.
It's not Singapore govt's responsibility to help businesses who are addicted to cheap foreign labour to survive.
The Singapore govt shd not welcome businesses who come to Singapore to take advantage of SG's advantages and which repatriate their profits. The SG govt shd not welcome foreign workers who have bad behaviours, bad habits and who cause social problems in Singapore.
 
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TracyTan866

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Yes, I share the same thoughts as you. Singapore will continue to strive because like minded Singaporeans like you and many of us will not want it to crumble.

We have a decent government and a healthy state of affairs what else do you really want.

LHL has made many bad mistakes that are tragic to Singapore and Singaporeans.

1. AIMgate has eroded Singaporeans trust in the PAP
2. Promoting undeserving cronies such as NBG, Peter Lim into top positions has weakened the Civil Service
3. Deaf to all criticisms has alienated Singaporeans from their political leaders
4. Criticising legitimate and valid opposing views as voices of the vocal minority has antagonised Singaporeans
5. Kicking out good dissenting PAP MPs and voices resulted in a 3rd rate political cadre in the PAP
6. Defamation suits against good and legitimate Opposition leaders have weakened true poltical representation in SG Parliament, allowing 3rd rate PAP MPs to walk into Parliament
7. Favouring cheap 3rd world foreign trash has made life unnecessarily difficult for Singaporean workers
8. Asking and forcing Singaporeans to integrate into foreigners culture is treason against Singapore and Singaporeans
9. PAP's pathetic performance has weakened the Civil Service
10. NS for Singaporeans and jobs for foreigners has angered Singaporeans

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ckmpd

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eh, PM Lee already clarified that the white paper makes it clear 6.9m is not a target

Just heard from a friend that there is an association which proudly displays two pictures of Lee Hsien Loong in its premises.

One picture has his face on the dartboard for members to practise their dart shooting

Another picture has Lee Hsien loong's picture covering a boxing bag, for members to practise their punching.

I wonder whether that's alright to do in SG?
 

xingguy

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More crumbling of Singapore for the record.

From thread: Netizen Exposes Mabok's LIES!
[h=2]Net archive reveals Mah did say he accepted responsibility[/h]
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Shin Min Daily News published an article yesterday (29 Sep) based on an interview with former National Development Minister Mah Bow Tan. During the interview, Mr Mah denied that he stepped down from the Cabinet in 2011 to take the blame for high HDB prices:
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Mah said that he stepped down as he was retiring and wanted someone more capable to take over from him. He was interviewed for the launch of a new book about eminent Hainanese in Singapore.
He said:
“尽管坊间有各种传闻,甚至传言我为高涨的房价背了黑锅,黯然退下,我并不这样认为,我觉得我已经为新加坡政府和人民献了我最宝贵,最有价值的人生阶段。”
“There have been numerous rumours about why I resigned from the Cabinet, including bearing the responsibility for high HDB prices. I disagree, I feel I have given the most valuable part of my life to the government and the people.”
He felt it was time for him to step down and let someone more capable than him improve Singapore’s housing. He said that to build a First World Singapore, he had given the most precious 10 years of his life, including his wisdom, passion and determination.

Reading PM Lee’s announcement on 18 May 2011 of his new Cabinet line-up, it does appear that the reason for Mah stepping down is to make way for newcomers. PM Lee then said [Link]:
“Several Ministers are retiring this round, apart from SM and MM; DPM Wong Kan Seng, Minister Mah Bow Tan and Minister Raymond Lim will retire from the Cabinet. All three of them served in challenging appointments and have made many valuable contributions. They had expressed the desire to step down earlier. I had asked to stay on and help me fight the elections. Now that these elections have been fought and won, they have reiterated they did not wish to be re-appointed and I have agreed, and I would like to put on record my thanks for all their many contributions.”
However, on 19 May 2011, the very day after PM Lee’s announcement of his new Cabinet, Mr Mah said that he “accepted responsibility” for high housing prices at a Building and Construction Authority (BCA) event. Thanks to the internet, we can dig up what he actually said. As reported on ST (‘Time to make way for fresh ideas: Mah’, 20 May 2011):
Outgoing Minister for National Development Mah Bow Tan on Thursday (19 May) took responsibility for the unhappiness among Singaporeans over the very sharp rise in housing prices, which he linked to the turnaround in the economy.

Speaking to reporters at a Building and Construction Authority (BCA) event on Thursday night, he said: ‘Housing is always a very sensitive subject. And I guess to the extent that in the last couple of years, housing prices went up very sharply, coinciding with the very dramatic turnaround in the economy. I guess that resulted in quite a lot of unhappiness on the ground. And I accept responsibility for that.’

In his first comments to the media since his retirement from Cabinet was announced on Wednesday (18 May), the 62-year-old former scholar did not elaborate on the price rises but outlined some highlights and tough moments in his 23-year political career.

On Saturday, Mr Mah hands his portfolio to Mr Khaw Boon Wan, the current Health Minister. In his statement, Mr Mah expressed confidence that Mr Khaw would ‘lead the ministry to even greater heights’.

He also said: ‘I have been privileged to serve under three prime ministers, which has been an exceptionally satisfying and invaluable experience. I never imagined that I could have been given the great honour to serve my country in such a meaningful way.’
And thanks to YouTube, what he said is immortalised on video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_nC87GBQzg


What does “accept responsibility” mean? According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary [Link], the phrase “to accept responsibility” simply means “to account for one’s actions”.

Indeed, a cursory scan of what other politicians in the world say about “accepting responsibility” shows that it is always linked to an after action, be it resignation, going to jail, taking a pay cut, etc.
For example:
• A mayor accepting responsibility for the actions that led to his arrest [Link]:


“After the events of the past 24 hours, I have determined that the best course of action, both as an elected official and personally, is to accept responsibility for my actions in getting behind the wheel of a vehicle after having consumed alcohol, regardless of blood-alcohol level… I will accept the consequences of my actions and face the sanctions that are deemed appropriate by the State Attorney and/or the Court.

• Canada’s Minister of State for Multiculturalism, Harry Bloy, resigned from the provincial cabinet after he admitted leaking an email to a private company [Link]:
“I felt it important to accept responsibility for my action in regard to sharing an email with a third party,” Bloy said. Premier Clark told the legislature Thursday that Bloy’s actions were inappropriate, but not illegal.
• Japanese Prime Minister Taro Aso announced his resignation as chairman of LDP following the party’s crushing defeat in a general election [Link]:
The opposition Democratic Party, led by Yukio Hatoyama, the grandson of former premier Ichiro Hatoyama, won 308 seats in the 480-seat lower house of parliament, while the ruling Liberal Democratic Party (LDP), which had been in power almost continually since 1955, secured only 119. Aso said he would have to accept responsibility for the results, and admitted that Japanese voters were deeply dissatisfied with him and his party.
So, is Mah’s stepping down as Minister not linked to his “accepting responsibility” too? Otherwise, why even talk about “accepting responsibility”, Mr Mah? Or does he even understand the English phrase “accepting responsibility”?
What do you think?


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From thread: Hylam kia Mah Boh Chee say high HDB prices not his fault woh
This Hylam kia Mah Boh Chee should be given an award for lying without batting an eyelid.

In the clip below, at around 0:09 he says:
"Housing is always a very sensitive topic, a very sensitive subject. And I guess to the extent that in the last couple of years, housing prices went up very sharply, coinciding with the very dramatic turaround in the economy. And yeah, I guess that... resulted in a lot of unhappiness on the ground and I accept responsibility for that."

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TracyTan866

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More crumbling of Singapore for the record.

1. LKY has offended President Obama by calling him a flash-in-the-pan. What an insult. Now Obama is a two-term US President and he has not forgotten what LKY said. He planned to visit Malaysia and Vietnam and skip Singapore. That's a slap in the face for SG and many countries will take his cue.

2. LHL insulted China with his joke about pork soup and smoking during his speech in Washington. China's President Xi has not forgotten LHL's insult and skipped Singapore when he toured the region.

Many countries in SE Asia will follow Obama's and Xi's cue. Singapore's international stature has suffered much because of LHL's poor leadership and poor international standing

3. Indonesia's SBY has largely ignored LHL and even allowed his Minister to call SG childish.

4. LHL knows his poor stature and confessed that as a small country, SG should not speak too loudly. That's not true. SG used to punch way above its weight in the 1970s and 1980s. It's LHL's poor leadership that prevented SG from speaking out as no country listens to what LHL says.

5. SG is only able to work with Malaysia because of our hold on Najib. Once that hold is off or Najib goes, SG will be lonely and a pariah.

6. Even Myanmar doesn't look up to SG and ASSK asks SG to learn from Myanmar

7. LHL has divided SG socially

8. LHL has alienated Singaporeans from the foreigners

9. LHL has no idea how to make life better for Singaporeans

10. LHL's trump card to attract businesses into SG is to offer them cheap foreign labour. But this comes at the expense of Singaporean workers. This cheap labour inputs cant be sustained.

The sooner LHL goes, the better it is for SG. LHL thinks that he can leave at a time of his choice and he can choose the next PM. What audacity.

For the sake of SG, LHL must go
 
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xingguy

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Agreed on all the points in the above post (#2187).
Thanks as well for putting this as a sticky as it would serves as a reminder comes close to next GE :biggrin:
 

TracyTan866

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Agreed on all the points in the above post (#2187).
Thanks as well for putting this as a sticky as it would serves as a reminder comes close to next GE :biggrin:

I am glad that you agree with Post 2187.

I didn't put this thread as sticky. Must be SamLeong who did it
 

TracyTan866

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Then thanks Boss Sam for hosting this great forum and putting this thread as sticky :p:biggrin:

"Media kept at arm's length of Singapore PM
By: Barry Soper, | Latest Political News | Monday October 8 2012 5:30
Media kept at arm's length of Singapore PM
Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong will have a round of talks in the Beehive today.
But the media are being kept at arm's length.
They're being invited to photo opportunities but have been told there'll be no questions to Mr Lee.
Mr Key says that's Mr Lee's wish and is the nature of the Singapore system"


When LHL visited NZ in Oct 2012, he was afraid to face the New Zealand media. LHL can only face SG media which ask simple questions but is afraid of other media. LHL received severe criticisms for this cowardice. The criticisms affected him and he decided to face CNN's Patricia Wu. But before that he had a dry run with MediaCorp in "Ask The PM". After the mediacorp episode, LHL thought he was ready to face the International Press.

What a debacle when he faced Patricia Wu! LHL showed that he cant think on his feet and gave silly non-answers to Patricia's questions

LHL is an embarrassment to SG.

Goh Keng Swee once said: "It's better for a group of sheep to be led by a lion than for a pride of lions to be led by a sheep". SG is led by a timid and ineffective sheep!

Lee Hsien long must go
 
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blindswordsman

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A fault line now exists between native Singaporeans and implanted new citizens. No more gelling of Singaporeans as one people. It is more like we, native Singaporeans, against them, the new citizens here to take over our jobs, compete for HDB flats, places in schools, hospitals, etc. Singapore is crumbling. If PAP does not act immediately to stop granting citizenship to foreigners like toilet papers and reduce influx of foreign trash and PRs in Singapore, the PAP will lose heavily in 2016.
 

TracyTan866

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A fault line now exists between native Singaporeans and implanted new citizens. No more gelling of Singaporeans as one people. It is more like we, native Singaporeans, against them, the new citizens here to take over our jobs, compete for HDB flats, places in schools, hospitals, etc. Singapore is crumbling. If PAP does not act immediately to stop granting citizenship to foreigners like toilet papers and reduce influx of foreign trash and PRs in Singapore, the PAP will lose heavily in 2016.

PAP says that National Service is a privilege. The PAP also says that privilege is given only to Singaporean guys. No PR nor foreign is given that privilege. How gracious and caring the PAP is towards Singaporean guys as only they are accorded that privilege.

But the catch is that Singaporean guys who decline that PAP-given privilege will be jailed. How ironic!
 

TracyTan866

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A fault line now exists between native Singaporeans and implanted new citizens. No more gelling of Singaporeans as one people. It is more like we, native Singaporeans, against them, the new citizens here to take over our jobs, compete for HDB flats, places in schools, hospitals, etc. Singapore is crumbling. If PAP does not act immediately to stop granting citizenship to foreigners like toilet papers and reduce influx of foreign trash and PRs in Singapore, the PAP will lose heavily in 2016.

I agree with you.

If the pap falls in 2016, Singapore may not crumble. But if the pap is allowed to pursue its cheap foreign labour policy, Singapore will crumble
 

TracyTan866

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A fault line now exists between native Singaporeans and implanted new citizens. No more gelling of Singaporeans as one people. It is more like we, native Singaporeans, against them, the new citizens here to take over our jobs, compete for HDB flats, places in schools, hospitals, etc. Singapore is crumbling. If PAP does not act immediately to stop granting citizenship to foreigners like toilet papers and reduce influx of foreign trash and PRs in Singapore, the PAP will lose heavily in 2016.

What do these people have in common?

Peter Lim, Lim Cheng Hoe, Michael Palmer, Chung Cheong Weng, Ng Chun Wei, Ong Thiam Hock, Muhd Mustaffa, etc.

They have been known take advantage of their positions to benefit themselves financially or to get sex. Some are ordinary Civil Servants. Some are top Civil Servants. One is a top PAP politician. They are just some who got caught and were exposed. They were corrupt because of money, sex, etc. How many more got away or were not exposed. Are they just a tip of the iceberg. Is the disease much more severe and unseen by Singaporeans?

They make a mockery of PAP's high-pay-to-avoid-corruption argument.

A corrupt person will not become incorrupt because he is paid well. A corrupt person who is paid well will just become a richer corrupt person. Will the PAP acknowledge they were wrong to use pay to make a person incorrupt?
 
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TracyTan866

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A fault line now exists between native Singaporeans and implanted new citizens. No more gelling of Singaporeans as one people. It is more like we, native Singaporeans, against them, the new citizens here to take over our jobs, compete for HDB flats, places in schools, hospitals, etc. Singapore is crumbling. If PAP does not act immediately to stop granting citizenship to foreigners like toilet papers and reduce influx of foreign trash and PRs in Singapore, the PAP will lose heavily in 2016.

Tan Chuan Jin seems to be the only Minister who sees Singaporeans' problems. He seems to be working for a more level playing field for Singaporeans. Is he alone fighting for Singaporeans in the Cabinet? He is facing an old dinosaur in LHL who is for bringing in 3rd rate cheap labour so as to pacify foreign businesses.

Will TCJ fight alone and unafraid and survive in the SG Cabinet? Which other PAP Minister shares Singaporean's plight?

Let us continue to applaud and urge TCJ on and not to give up fighting for what is right despite overwhelming challenges.
 
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TracyTan866

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Agreed on all the points in the above post (#2187).
Thanks as well for putting this as a sticky as it would serves as a reminder comes close to next GE :biggrin:

1. teenage prostitution is widespread in SG
2. Singaporean teenage girls, some as young as 13, are indulging in consensual sex
3. divorce rate is increasing
4. abortion is seen as normal by young adults
5. suicide rate is going up
6. dysfunctional families are increasing

all's not well in SG.

does this show crumbling of Singapore?
 
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TracyTan866

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A fault line now exists between native Singaporeans and implanted new citizens. No more gelling of Singaporeans as one people. It is more like we, native Singaporeans, against them, the new citizens here to take over our jobs, compete for HDB flats, places in schools, hospitals, etc. Singapore is crumbling. If PAP does not act immediately to stop granting citizenship to foreigners like toilet papers and reduce influx of foreign trash and PRs in Singapore, the PAP will lose heavily in 2016.

1. worksite accidents are increasing
2. worksite deaths are increasing
3. employers are favouring foreigners because they don't have NS liability

workplace is not safe and well.

does this show crumbling of Singapore?
 

TracyTan866

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A fault line now exists between native Singaporeans and implanted new citizens. No more gelling of Singaporeans as one people. It is more like we, native Singaporeans, against them, the new citizens here to take over our jobs, compete for HDB flats, places in schools, hospitals, etc. Singapore is crumbling. If PAP does not act immediately to stop granting citizenship to foreigners like toilet papers and reduce influx of foreign trash and PRs in Singapore, the PAP will lose heavily in 2016.

1. pap refuses to come clean with actual cost of building hdb flats. does this mean that pap has something to hide?
2. pap refuses to reveal actual breakdown of Singaporeans, PRs, foreigners, but prefers to hide behind fuzzy statistics. does this show that pap is afraid Singaporeans will know the truth?
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crumbling of Singapore?
 

TracyTan866

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Then thanks Boss Sam for hosting this great forum and putting this thread as sticky :p:biggrin:

1. new shopping mall ceiling collapsed
2. fire at Singtel's internet exchange
3. persistent MRT problems

do these failures show that Singapore's infrastructures are not properly monitored nor maintained? are there more serious infrastructural problems which have not surfaced yet? are regulatory bodies and govt agencies proficient?

crumbling of SG?
 
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