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[COVID-19 Virus] The PRC Situation Thread
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And one point I need to add, the ah tiongs etc are spraying disinfectant all over the place to kill the virus,,,and ppl are breathing in these aerosols etc,,,is that not making the situation worse? disinfectants are poisons too
maybe your open window theory!
Spraying all that chemicals in public and ppl breathing in the mists..wont that be worst than the Wuhan virus?
Waste not want not. May be we should have send them more body bags instead.
Overworked and unprotected: Wuhan doctors in China's coronavirus epicentre risk infection
Tired and understaffed, medical workers have had to deal with thousands of new cases per week in Wuhan AFP/STR
12 Feb 2020 01:34PM (Updated: 12 Feb 2020 01:58PM)
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BEIJING: Doctors on the frontline of China's new coronavirus epidemic are facing a daunting task: Treat an ever-growing number of infected patients and risk getting infected themselves due to a drastic shortage of masks and other protective equipment.
Tired and understaffed, medical workers have had to deal with thousands of new cases per week in Wuhan, the city at the epicentre of the outbreak that first emerged late last year.
Many doctors have had to see patients without proper masks or protective body suits, resorting to reusing the same equipment when they should be changed regularly.
Some have even worn diapers to avoid having to take off the equipment and make it last longer, according to a health official.
READ: New coronavirus cases lowest since Jan but experts disagree over peak
READ: China reports 97 new deaths from coronavirus, bringing toll to more than 1,100
One doctor at a community clinic in Wuhan said he and at least 16 other colleagues were showing symptoms similar to the new virus, including lung infections and coughing.
"As doctors, we do not want to work while being a source of infection," he told AFP, requesting anonymity for fear of reprisals.
But "right now, there is no one to replace you," the doctor explained, adding that all medical staff without a fever are expected to work.
"What would happen if there was no one working on the frontline?"
Some 44 per cent of the 42,600 cases nationwide - and the majority of more than 1,100 deaths - have been in Wuhan, home to a wild animal market where the virus is suspected of having originated before spreading between humans.
The risks medical staff are facing was highlighted on Friday after Li Wenliang, a whistleblowing doctor in Wuhan, succumbed to the disease more than a month after he first raised alarm about a new SARS-like virus in the city.
The risks facing medical staff were highlighted after Li Wenliang, a whistleblowing doctor in Wuhan, succumbed to the disease AFP/Li WENLIANG
His death unleashed an outpouring of grief and anger on Chinese social media, with 10 academics in Wuhan circulating an open letter calling for political reform and freedom of speech.
Timeline of events leading to the death of coronavirus whistleblower Chinese doctor Li Wenliang. (Graphic: AFP/Gal Roma)
MASK DEFICIT
The deputy mayor of Wuhan said on Friday the city faced a daily shortage of 56,000 N95 masks and 41,000 protective suits.
Medical staff in protective suits will "wear diapers, reduce how much water they drink, and reduce how many times they use the bathroom", said Jiao Yahui, a top official at China's National Health Commission.
Some of them will wear the same protective suit for six or even nine hours, when they should not be worn for more than four hours in a quarantined ward, she said last week.
"Of course, we don't advocate this method, but medical staff really have no alternative," she admitted.
Wuhan faced a daily shortage of 56,000 N95 masks and 41,000 protective suits AFP/STR
The Chinese government has responded by mobilising the entire country to increase production of masks and suits.
As of Monday, three-quarters of mask and suit producers had resumed work following an extended Chinese New Year holiday, said Cong Liang, an official at China's top economic planner.
READ: Coronavirus emergency is 'Public Enemy Number 1': WHO
READ: WHO names novel coronavirus as 'COVID-19'
China has also imported more than 300 million masks and about 3.9 million articles of protective clothing since January 24, an official said last week.
The Red Cross Society of China too has received over 900 million yuan (US$129 million) in donations for epidemic relief - though it has drawn scrutiny for its lack of transparency and efficiency.
"Even if we receive more masks, the number of patients increases even faster," said a doctor at a major Wuhan hospital, who requested anonymity because she was not authorised to speak with media.
The Chinese government has responded by mobilising the entire country to increase production of masks and suits AFP/STR
Each doctor or nurse uses two to four masks each day, she explained.
"The consumption of masks in the hospital is enormous," she emphasised. "They have a permanent lack of masks."
Doctors have also been forced to don makeshift hazmat suits, which are not adequate protection against the virus, said Xu Yuan, a 34-year-old in the US who donated US$5,000 in protective equipment to former classmates working at Wuhan hospitals.
"As soon as he put it on, (the suit) cracked because it was too small for him," she said, describing a friend in Wuhan - who was also forced to wear the same hazmat suit for five days.
"Everyday, he disinfects it after use," she told AFP.
"He said it may have been useless, but it is still better than nothing."
CALLS FOR HELP
Handling the daily deluge of new cases takes another kind of toll too, said the doctor at the large hospital in Wuhan, whose colleagues are handling confirmed cases of virus patients.
"They are exhausted," she told AFP. One of her colleagues, for instance, works at a clinic that receives 400 patients within eight hours.
READ: Japan cruise ship coronavirus cases climb to 175, including quarantine officer
READ: Coronavirus outbreak: Economic fallout could be worse than SARS
Many are dealing with patients "who die very quickly, whom they have not managed to save," she said.
"They have a lot of pressure," the doctor said, adding that her hospital had set up psychological monitoring.
Many Wuhan residents are worried, too, said the doctor at the community clinic.
He and his colleagues receive calls from distressed community members, he said - some of whom are too afraid to leave their homes.
"You can hear their calls for help, but your hands are tied," the doctor said, describing families where patients are stuck at home without medical treatment. "There's nothing we can do."
Tired and understaffed, medical workers have had to deal with thousands of new cases per week in Wuhan AFP/STR
12 Feb 2020 01:34PM (Updated: 12 Feb 2020 01:58PM)
Bookmark
BEIJING: Doctors on the frontline of China's new coronavirus epidemic are facing a daunting task: Treat an ever-growing number of infected patients and risk getting infected themselves due to a drastic shortage of masks and other protective equipment.
Tired and understaffed, medical workers have had to deal with thousands of new cases per week in Wuhan, the city at the epicentre of the outbreak that first emerged late last year.
Many doctors have had to see patients without proper masks or protective body suits, resorting to reusing the same equipment when they should be changed regularly.
Some have even worn diapers to avoid having to take off the equipment and make it last longer, according to a health official.
READ: New coronavirus cases lowest since Jan but experts disagree over peak
READ: China reports 97 new deaths from coronavirus, bringing toll to more than 1,100
One doctor at a community clinic in Wuhan said he and at least 16 other colleagues were showing symptoms similar to the new virus, including lung infections and coughing.
"As doctors, we do not want to work while being a source of infection," he told AFP, requesting anonymity for fear of reprisals.
But "right now, there is no one to replace you," the doctor explained, adding that all medical staff without a fever are expected to work.
"What would happen if there was no one working on the frontline?"
Some 44 per cent of the 42,600 cases nationwide - and the majority of more than 1,100 deaths - have been in Wuhan, home to a wild animal market where the virus is suspected of having originated before spreading between humans.
The risks medical staff are facing was highlighted on Friday after Li Wenliang, a whistleblowing doctor in Wuhan, succumbed to the disease more than a month after he first raised alarm about a new SARS-like virus in the city.
The risks facing medical staff were highlighted after Li Wenliang, a whistleblowing doctor in Wuhan, succumbed to the disease AFP/Li WENLIANG
His death unleashed an outpouring of grief and anger on Chinese social media, with 10 academics in Wuhan circulating an open letter calling for political reform and freedom of speech.
MASK DEFICIT
The deputy mayor of Wuhan said on Friday the city faced a daily shortage of 56,000 N95 masks and 41,000 protective suits.
Medical staff in protective suits will "wear diapers, reduce how much water they drink, and reduce how many times they use the bathroom", said Jiao Yahui, a top official at China's National Health Commission.
Some of them will wear the same protective suit for six or even nine hours, when they should not be worn for more than four hours in a quarantined ward, she said last week.
"Of course, we don't advocate this method, but medical staff really have no alternative," she admitted.
Wuhan faced a daily shortage of 56,000 N95 masks and 41,000 protective suits AFP/STR
The Chinese government has responded by mobilising the entire country to increase production of masks and suits.
As of Monday, three-quarters of mask and suit producers had resumed work following an extended Chinese New Year holiday, said Cong Liang, an official at China's top economic planner.
READ: Coronavirus emergency is 'Public Enemy Number 1': WHO
READ: WHO names novel coronavirus as 'COVID-19'
China has also imported more than 300 million masks and about 3.9 million articles of protective clothing since January 24, an official said last week.
The Red Cross Society of China too has received over 900 million yuan (US$129 million) in donations for epidemic relief - though it has drawn scrutiny for its lack of transparency and efficiency.
"Even if we receive more masks, the number of patients increases even faster," said a doctor at a major Wuhan hospital, who requested anonymity because she was not authorised to speak with media.
The Chinese government has responded by mobilising the entire country to increase production of masks and suits AFP/STR
Each doctor or nurse uses two to four masks each day, she explained.
"The consumption of masks in the hospital is enormous," she emphasised. "They have a permanent lack of masks."
Doctors have also been forced to don makeshift hazmat suits, which are not adequate protection against the virus, said Xu Yuan, a 34-year-old in the US who donated US$5,000 in protective equipment to former classmates working at Wuhan hospitals.
"As soon as he put it on, (the suit) cracked because it was too small for him," she said, describing a friend in Wuhan - who was also forced to wear the same hazmat suit for five days.
"Everyday, he disinfects it after use," she told AFP.
"He said it may have been useless, but it is still better than nothing."
CALLS FOR HELP
Handling the daily deluge of new cases takes another kind of toll too, said the doctor at the large hospital in Wuhan, whose colleagues are handling confirmed cases of virus patients.
"They are exhausted," she told AFP. One of her colleagues, for instance, works at a clinic that receives 400 patients within eight hours.
READ: Japan cruise ship coronavirus cases climb to 175, including quarantine officer
READ: Coronavirus outbreak: Economic fallout could be worse than SARS
Many are dealing with patients "who die very quickly, whom they have not managed to save," she said.
"They have a lot of pressure," the doctor said, adding that her hospital had set up psychological monitoring.
Many Wuhan residents are worried, too, said the doctor at the community clinic.
He and his colleagues receive calls from distressed community members, he said - some of whom are too afraid to leave their homes.
"You can hear their calls for help, but your hands are tied," the doctor said, describing families where patients are stuck at home without medical treatment. "There's nothing we can do."
Chiong ah! Mai tu liao ah!
Lan sai la here in Bangkok don't have any good Indian food leh
Communist CCP government now showing her true nature liao. Now they can confiscate private property and claim it belongs to the party if they want to. No respect for private ownership.
广东紧急立法：政府可征用私人财产抗疫！饿兽出笼怎么防？（20200211第698期）
广东紧急立法：政府可征用私人财产抗疫！饿兽出笼怎么防？（20200211第698期）
Piss and Poop will also do the same when the time comes.
Remember some fucking paraplegic bitch once said our SeePeeF doesn't belong to us ?
That's why I keep saying that a small and limited govt is the best for efficient operation and securing the people's rights. Libertarian style.
Sinkieland's govt is too big and too bloated for a snot-sized city-state.
A govt that's big enough to give you everything you want, is equally capable of taking away everything you have.
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https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/limited-government.asp
What Is a Limited Government?
A limited government is one whose legalized force and power is restricted through delegated and enumerated authorities. Countries with limited governments have fewer laws about what individuals and businesses can and cannot do.
The opposite of a limited government is an interventionist government.
issit? apparently world's best restaurant in bangkok is indian food. gaggan.
oh wait. sorli I big idiot. It just closed a few months back....
did you ever try the place or was it overhyped?
hmmm......That's why I keep saying that a small and limited govt is the best for efficient operation and securing the people's rights. Libertarian style.
Sinkieland's govt is too big and too bloated for a snot-sized city-state.
A govt that's big enough to give you everything you want, is equally capable of taking away everything you have.
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https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/limited-government.asp
What Is a Limited Government?
A limited government is one whose legalized force and power is restricted through delegated and enumerated authorities. Countries with limited governments have fewer laws about what individuals and businesses can and cannot do.
The opposite of a limited government is an interventionist government.
singapore would never have been this successful last century with limited government. Without government intervention, the growth and stability of the 60's till the 90's could not have been achieved. I would say that Singapore in those years was LKY's magnum opus. Of course you can argue that he overstepped and trampled too many people, but as with most great achievements, those that get in the way tend to get crushed. Of course, this all went out the window with new leadership in charge which resorts to importing warm and sometimes diseased bodies to keep GDP growing.
The sad truth is whether by genes, heritage or culture, sinkieland would never have be such strong achievers as a whole without the interventions of government in the early post war years. Limited government unfortunately only works well with a self-directed populace. AMDK as probably the star populace. Sinkies and their Asian confucianistic principles tend to get lost without the tyrant.
not a flu virus. corona virus. so-called because of the shape of the virus itself. Causes similar problems, but different virus. Kinda like kena hantam by Malay or Indian. Same result, different culprit.
Going to be red alert soonHave you heard of people dropping dead on the streets or sent to ICU because of a flu?
This virus may stay for this whole yearnot a flu virus. corona virus. so-called because of the shape of the virus itself. Causes similar problems, but different virus. Kinda like kena hantam by Malay or Indian. Same result, different culprit.
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