Since we're at this stage of the game, let's dig a bit shall we? Why do you believe everyone is locking down?
Digging in is fine but all we are doing is postponing the inevitable. The virus is not going away anytime soon.
Since we're at this stage of the game, let's dig a bit shall we? Why do you believe everyone is locking down?
I think lockdowns are quite a clumsy, hamfisted way of dealing with the virus. Since you brought up how absurd they are, I've been doing some thinking and I've been wondering why lockdowns are so prevalent and my conclusion is that China has a big role in it. care to hear why?Digging in is fine but all we are doing is postponing the inevitable. The virus is not going away anytime soon.
Even if it is double or triple the death rate of influenza we still have to carry on with life.
We lived through, polio, TB, plague, smallpox etc without shutting down surely the wuhan flu is still minor in comparison.
Last time, technology did not exist to allow people to work from home. Now we have tablets and electronic whiteboards for teaching, Zoom for business meetings, ability to sign documents digitally, email, whatsapp, and Skype.
Locking down will not harm half of the population. Those who cannot WFH have govt plans to assist them. In Canada, they get $2,000 a month for 4 months.
The problem is that after the lockdown the jobs are gone. Sky city in Auckland just fired 700 staff. Air New Zealand has fired more than 1000. In the South Island cafes, restaurants and hotels are closing for good. They can't afford to keep going. There is more to business overheads than just wage bills.
I think lockdowns are quite a clumsy, hamfisted way of dealing with the virus. Since you brought up how absurd they are, I've been doing some thinking and I've been wondering why lockdowns are so prevalent and my conclusion is that China has a big role in it. care to hear why?
The problem is that after the lockdown the jobs are gone. Sky city in Auckland just fired 700 staff. Air New Zealand has fired more than 1000. In the South Island cafes, restaurants and hotels are closing for good. They can't afford to keep going. There is more to business overheads than just wage bills.
A one month lockdown can create a problem that will last for years. I would agree that if covid-19 killed 2% or more of those who caught it but at around 0.1% and mainly the elderly it just does not make sense.
thank you for giving me face!Yes definitely! Love to hear your thoughts on this
tfbh, sorry to be fly in ointment. I've heard that people in Canada shaking in their boots wondering whether the economy can ever rise again to make up that debt,Last time, technology did not exist to allow people to work from home. Now we have tablets and electronic whiteboards for teaching, Zoom for business meetings, ability to sign documents digitally, email, whatsapp, and Skype.
Locking down will not harm half of the population. Those who cannot WFH have govt plans to assist them. In Canada, they get $2,000 a month for 4 months.
and no money from selling stuff...My soul mate Elon agrees with u.
“You can’t just legislate money and solve these things,” Musk told podcaster Joe Rogan.
“This notion though, that you can just sort of send checks out to everybody and things will be fine, is not true, obviously,” Musk said, referring to stimulus checks sent out over recent weeks, and warning “the [economic] machine just grinds to a halt,” impacting medical and food supplies.
“Several people have this absurd view that the economy is a magic horn of plenty,” Musk told Rogan, adding, “if you don’t make stuff, there’s no stuff.”
It is inevitable. The planet earth is ruled by incompetent, capitalistic and power hungry leaders who have never fought an invisible war before. Even billgate is clueless of saving humanity.We shut down a whole economy because of this??????
How do you know these jobs will not be lost in a normal economic downturn?
We were long overdue for a correction anyway after 10+ years of steady growth
tfbh, sorry to be fly in ointment. I've heard that people in Canada shaking in their boots wondering whether the economy can ever rise again to make up that debt,
thank you for giving me face!
From early numbers, we had a clear pattern about at risk groups. Generally 80 and above, male and presenting with a few comorbidities. It was well-established that a great honking bulk of the population was not severely affected by this virus. Early numbers and numbers from China being what they are, there was a reason to take it with a pinch or shaker full of salt.
However, I think authoritarian and totalitarian China set a precedent. It locked down as a response to the virus. Goodness knows what exactly was going on through their minds, but something about fear or fear of losing face may have played a role. Building hospitals and quarantine sites on the spot. And guess what? The western-centric press was ready to go to war with China and they really played the virus up for all it was worth to generate news dollars and/or do their government chums a favour or basically just to shit on China because racist or whatever. So they took all the crap happening there and played it up.
So now there's mass hysteria thanks to great airtime and an overhanded response to a hush hush problem. As far as the world is concerned, this thing could go nuclear if China's (over)reactions and play mute approach were anything to go by. So really, it's a failure on multiple fronts as these things tend to be. Hamfisted Chinese leadership (oxymoron in itself) followed by loud alarmist media.
Now we're stuck with totally zombie economies because of mismanagement, misinformation and too much of the fearful public having a say in policy instead of well-informed and reasonable people.
Should've just kept the oldies or the riskies under gentle lock and key and provided support services like free food delivery and regular checkups. Instead monkey see, monkey do. Another reason to be fearful of Chinese(CPC) precedence.
and no money from selling stuff...
KNN for this my uncle thinkYes agree very much this has been played up by the media and it does seem like a comedy of errors has gotten us into this shithole.
Politicians the world over have been gripped by fear, fear of losing at the ballot box should they be perceived to have mismanaged the crisis and have thus overreacted.
Now we have hard data coming out that fatalities are ridiculously low in Asia (praise the gods!) BCG, diet, better healthcare (?) or whatever reason.
So what's the next move by the politicians?
"(It's) the economy, stupid!"
No idea. What I do know is The Best Is Yet to Be!never thought it would end up like this. the worst is over or yet to come ?
No idea. What I do know is The Best Is Yet to Be!
The problem is that after the lockdown the jobs are gone. Sky city in Auckland just fired 700 staff. Air New Zealand has fired more than 1000. In the South Island cafes, restaurants and hotels are closing for good. They can't afford to keep going. There is more to business overheads than just wage bills.
A one month lockdown can create a problem that will last for years. I would agree that if covid-19 killed 2% or more of those who caught it but at around 0.1% and mainly the elderly it just does not make sense.