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Chitchat Congratulations To All the Idiots Who Pay 1 million bucks for HDB flat! Well Done ...

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Singapore’s long romance with public housing is going through a rocky patch, threatening to undermine one of the most popular government policies.

For decades, the no-frills, affordable apartments have been integral to the city-state’s way of life, helping young couples achieve their dreams of home ownership and housing the bulk of the population -- while providing a stepping stone for getting on the private-property ladder.

But now, with about 80 percent of Singaporeans invested in the Housing & Development Board dwellings, these properties are losing value, widening the price discount to private condos. That’s a jolt to home owners and a political headache for a government that likes to boast its public housing is unmatched around the world.

“The government has to walk a tight rope on this,” said Nicholas Mak, executive director and head of research at real estate firm ZACD Group Ltd. Officials can neither extend the leases “for free” nor let prices decline too much, because wealth loss among public-housing dwellers could be politically costly, he said.

The value of the homes has been falling even as prices of private dwellings rebounded over the past five quarters, leading to a 13.8 percent price gap, the widest in more than a decade.

Housing initiatives established under then-Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew in the 1960s have taken Singapore from slums and squatter settlements to one of the world’s highest home-ownership rates, at more than 90 percent. The system is designed for people to buy, not rent.

Blocky and unadorned, with laundry often hanging off the bamboo poles outside, HDB housing has helped Singapore couples -- young singles aren’t eligible -- to get a first home and a start on financial security. A home purchased for about S$100,000 ($72,500) in 1985 is worth around six times that today, or the equivalent of an annual, compounded gain of about 5.6 percent.

“Housing is a very emotive issue,” said Song Seng Wun, an economist at CIMB Private Banking in Singapore. That may be understating it, in a country where marriage proposals can come in the shape of: “Let’s get an HDB apartment together.”

The recent declines may be because buyers are increasingly focused on 99-year land leases, which in some cases have about 40 years to run. The price gap between HDB apartments and private condos is likely to keep growing, according to Credit Suisse Group AG.

“I bought in the resale market when the prices were quite high some years back,” said Jun Liang, 42, whose apartment is in a 55-year-old block called Selegie House. “When I look at the value now, it would not have appreciated -- in fact, after renovation costs it could even be a small loss.”

HDB resale prices may fall 1 percent to 2 percent this year, according to Mak. In the long term, besides undermining public sentiment, declines could threaten demand for private housing, since fewer people will feel wealthy enough to upgrade to condominiums, according to Cushman & Wakefield Inc.

To be sure, the gap between public and private has fluctuated before. A couple of years ago, it touched a low of 1.9 percent, and it’s averaged about 5 percent over the past five years. Over the longer term, private and HDB prices should move in tandem, according to Mak at ZACD.

The government is taking action. Under a new program, owners of some apartments aged 70 years and older will be able to vote for a state buyback of the homes before their leases run out. However, that plan won’t be implemented for another 20 years and doesn’t apply to all HDB units, meaning the vast majority will likely go the full 99 years, according to Credit Suisse.

Home-owner Jun and his wife bought their apartment in one of the oldest HDB blocks in 2013 after getting married, spending about S$700,000 ($89,000) on the property and another S$100,000 to renovate. Now, they have thoughts of upgrading to a private condo. But, looking at their budget, the couple wonder if they’ve any chance of getting the home they want.

“Prices are too high for private condominiums,” said Jun.

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Why you think PAP make it difficult for sinkies who live in jb and commute daily? If there are proper mrts linking to jb, property price might fall further.
Notice, pap want high speed rail link to kl as priority, and not the commuter link to jb.
 
Why you think PAP make it difficult for sinkies who live in jb and commute daily? If there are proper mrts linking to jb, property price might fall further.
Notice, pap want high speed rail link to kl as priority, and not the commuter link to jb.
Johore is not Singapore. Does that answer your question? Lol :biggrin:
Why should taxpayers' monies be spent on helping Jiuhu kias travelling to Singapore. :rolleyes:
 
Say the HDB got another 70 years left of its 99 years leasehold...then it is about $14K per year.

Works out to be $1.1K rent per month but you gotta pay your own property tax and upgrading costs.

Great deal indeed.
 
Why you think PAP make it difficult for sinkies who live in jb and commute daily? If there are proper mrts linking to jb, property price might fall further.
Notice, pap want high speed rail link to kl as priority, and not the commuter link to jb.

Actually, PAP should have built an MRT station near to the Woodlands CIQ and build a covered walkway from the CIQ to MRT. That will remove the hassle of queuing for buses after you clear customs. Environmentally friendly some more. But these idiots have to build the MRT stations far away from the CIQ. Damn Goondu!
 
PAP since time immemorial boasts loudly to the world about its so-called subsidised affordable public housing and near 100% home ownership but even now, nobody knows how much is the real subsidy if any! Everything is shrouded in mystery. May take many man-years to unravel the truth about these subsidies. Pride always come before a fall! There is nothing affordable about HDB flats. Every couple that I know of is struggling to pay off their mortgages! Besides housing, one still needs to eat and live and fall sick too.:wink:
 
PAP since time immemorial boasts loudly to the world about its so-called subsidised affordable public housing and near 100% home ownership but even now, nobody knows how much is the real subsidy if any! Everything is shrouded in mystery. May take many man-years to unravel the truth about these subsidies. Pride always come before a fall! There is nothing affordable about HDB flats. Every couple that I know of is struggling to pay off their mortgages! Besides housing, one still needs to eat and live and fall sick too.:wink:

that s one of the reasons Y the Pee A Pee
need to win the eRection every time.
another one is the acow of termusick and GI see
it is of paramount importance to the scums
that they have to win to form a garberment,
 
Johore is not Singapore. Does that answer your question? Lol :biggrin:
Why should taxpayers' monies be spent on helping Jiuhu kias travelling to Singapore. :rolleyes:


I use to visit JB regularly using public transport. I would stop at the Kranji MRT station & switch to a bus for a 10 minute ride to the Causeway. It wouldn't cost much $ to extend MRT service from the Kranji to JB. Much like what they have done to extend the connection between the Tanah Merah station to Changi Airport.

Many Malaysians working in Spore are already provided with transportation by their employers in Spore e.g. those blue buses. Saw plenty of them at the immigration points. Students staying in JB & studying in Spore are using mini buses. So an improvement in MRT services would more likely help Sporeans who are going to JB to get relieve from Spore high prices.
 
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