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justl00king

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Nobody will be able to win all the time.

As per my earlier posting,

When winning must try to whack more to max out those wins, and when losing must learn to either reduce bet to lessen the damage or totally walk away.

Most important is still to bet within means and enjoy the game! :wink:
 

44mm

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Nobody will be able to win all the time.

As per my earlier posting,

When winning must try to whack more to max out those wins, and when losing must learn to either reduce bet to lessen the damage or totally walk away.

Most important is still to bet within means and enjoy the game! :wink:

Now i learnt my lesson. Hope its not too late.

Now just have to slowly recoup my loss. lol
 

44mm

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also to remember that in a 50-50 chance game, we can only guess 50% correctly, and the other 50% will be wrongly.

You are sure right on this.

I have now know how to cut my losses. Yesterday was playing and was down 20% after 2hrs of playing. Decided to stop as form was not very good.

Now i ask myself why i lost in the 1st place? The reason i gather is i was too impatient and not focus enough. Placing bets that i have no confidence and hoping that the cards will be on my side(big mistake).

I have been since playing banker all this while. Realised my losses is not so much but if i have been playing both banker & player imagine how much damage it cause.(Last week been playing both and lost quite heavy)

Bankroll managment, calmness and discipline very important factors. I am happy that i lost cos i have finally make the 1st step to winning. If i can cut my loss i am sure i wont burnt my hand in future.

Any sifu(s) wish to highlight anything that i miss out on?
 

kelvin

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You are sure right on this.

I have now know how to cut my losses. Yesterday was playing and was down 20% after 2hrs of playing. Decided to stop as form was not very good.

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cutting your losses is the most important factor.
you must know when to stop.
never fight back as you will sink deeper.
we are good in advising, but frankly, when i am at the table,
emotions control us, and thats why we will always loose.
discipline is very important.
 

44mm

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cutting your losses is the most important factor.
you must know when to stop.
never fight back as you will sink deeper.
we are good in advising, but frankly, when i am at the table,
emotions control us, and thats why we will always loose.
discipline is very important.

True. Its always the case. For me i just bear with it cos i am there to win not following the crowds.

Got this aunty say i play very scare lose. :o Anyway i just smile smile.

Honestly when some table got dragon. Alot of them win money at that particular table. But when they continue to place other bets at other tables. Most of them sure lose money(I am not cursing them). This i dun understand. They should be very smart cos some really win alot alot of money yet they lose it.
 

P1nkpanther

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hi, been reading alot here. 1st time posting.

I met brother SBK at LJ last month. He shared with me his law of average theory. Which is true at certain point.

By the way, where have you been? Have not seen you in LJ for few weeks.

I am sharing my thought and experience. You may find it familiar but definitely not me who started this method/system. To be specific, there is no sure win method in Barcarat. But you can still be able to win in casino.

I place my bet only on banker only. To some it may sound stupid. Well, no method is correct and no method is proved wrong. Following trend can make money, it also make one lose money. Following chart/diagram, you will make and you may lose. Season players got all sort of method, so long you make money, that to me is a good method.

I been winning consistently after CNY. My method is very simple. If I need to place a bet, i place on Banker. If i encounter 3 to 4 players in a row, I stop for a while, then when you felt alright again place bet on banker again. In a shoe, after 40 games, player open more than banker by, lets say 10 hands, then SBK thoery apply, according to the law of average, banker 'suppose' to close up the gap. Here what SBK shared with me slight increment in your stake will help you recoup the losess earlier due to more player hands.

Next I touch on my bank roll management. I prepare myself 15 units per trip for stop lose. This 15 units i further divide into 5 groups. Each group containing 3 units. My betting method will be group A 3 units, 1st bet 1 unit, win, 2nd bet 2 units, win 3rd bet 1 unit. After 3 bet use group B.
If 1st bet lose, next bet same 1 unit, lose again next bet 1 unit. After group A consecutive 3 losess, you lose 3 units. Use Group B bank roll. If you continously lose 5 groups. It is a very clear sign you must stop today. Accordingly to the law of average, it is very rare to encounter 15 losses or 15 wins in a row.

My style of playing wont make you win big, nor lose big. Every unit amount depend on yourself. Like myself, if I play on $30 table, it would be $450 cut loss. $50 table would be $750 stop loss.

Why bet only Banker, I think i need not elaborate as Silverfox and SBK share their view already. When is player trend, I wont get hit too heavy due to I stop bet when i encounter 3/4 players continously. But if banker trends I will win till smiling all day long ^^.

I know alot of the brother want to win money when going casino. But to do so, our discipline and patient is very important. I hate to see brother posting here how much they lose due to ...... etc

But it is always the case we are always not contented with the amount we won. And when we lose, we want to make back by uping our stake.

* Never double up when you lose. I know some players like to use matingale system. The improved version I know is after 4 players hand open in a row, they start bet banker, bet till they win. "BUT" if for the next 8 hand is still players, then they bleed. Such system you cannot afford 1 hit.

Sorry for being naggy, and if you think is not useful, please ignore and dont flame. And if you got good strategy, pls share and I will be very happy to learn more.

Good luck all.
 

44mm

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Yesterday i did card counting playing baccarat online.

Based on the results i gather from 1 shoe. I realised that with the info of numbers of cards left, you can actually roughly gauge what are the odds of 3rd card draw from player. Although we cant know what will open on the 1st 2 cards on player & banker.

Maybe i am wrong cos it is only 1 shoe. Card counting actually helps abit cos it depends on the result if player needs to draw 3rd card.

Anyway player needs to draw 3rd card if 5pts and below. So i feel the chances would be higher if 10s is more in the shoe.

Out of 51 hands. The average number of cards(1-9) draw is 15-18 each. The 10s are 62.

8 decks = 416
single number = 32
10s(10,J,Q,K) = 128

This is all i know. Cos i dunno how to calcuate the %. By the way is it using 8 deck? Cos the dealer will burn cards based on the 1st card drawn. They will burn 1 card every hand after that. On top of that they will cut about 25% from the new cards before they start a new shoe.

My england very lousy. sorry!
 

sohbuckkong

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Yesterday i did card counting playing baccarat online.

Based on the results i gather from 1 shoe. I realised that with the info of numbers of cards left, you can actually roughly gauge what are the odds of 3rd card draw from player. Although we cant know what will open on the 1st 2 cards on player & banker.

Maybe i am wrong cos it is only 1 shoe. Card counting actually helps abit cos it depends on the result if player needs to draw 3rd card.

Anyway player needs to draw 3rd card if 5pts and below. So i feel the chances would be higher if 10s is more in the shoe.

........!

Just like you, initially I thought card counting may work too, and I thought if there are less picture cards left, then this is good for player, but after running my script, the result is card counting wont work at all and this makes sense because if card counting work, then I am very sure the casino will not give us paper and pen to write just like in those blackjack tables.

Normally if we deal many shoes, the end result is banker will win player by about 1.3%. I wanted to find out if there are no picture cards in the shoe, how does this affect the end results of banker and player and so I ran the script to deal the cards without pictures, the end result remains the same, i.e generally banker still win player by about 1.3%, I ran the script many many times over and over again and the end results are all almost the same.
the script is here http://goldcup.110mb.com/baccarat_card_counting.html
 

44mm

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Thanks for the information on your website. I believe you have put lots of hardwork.

Seem the only way is bankroll management, disclipline and patience.

Like what silverfox said: Lose less so that you can win more.

I won $1.2k for this week. On certain day i lose 20% i just stopped. On good day i make about 40% with a base of $2k. $40 per bet.

Kanna burnt last week so confidence badly shaken. When i regain my confidence back will increase my capital and betting.

Btw this thread use to be very hot but seem quiet alot lately.
 

sohbuckkong

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if you can stop when u lose 20%, that is very good.
Thanks for the information on your website. I believe you have put lots of hardwork.

Seem the only way is bankroll management, disclipline and patience.

Like what silverfox said: Lose less so that you can win more.

I won $1.2k for this week. On certain day i lose 20% i just stopped. On good day i make about 40% with a base of $2k. $40 per bet.

.........y.
 

44mm

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if you can stop when u lose 20%, that is very good.

Bro SBK thanks for making me feel good. If you lost $10k+ like me 2 weeks ago. I am very sure you would wanna cut loss like me. LOL

I should have won more than i should. Just that i have lost that confidence i use to have. Patience and discipline is the key factors. Win dont need anyone to teach but the losing part is the hardest to learn.

This baccarat game is a testing your patience game. Once you "hot" the house really suck you dry or to say it will "kill" you. Play within your means is another option.

Btw i have confirmed that card counting does not help much in this game. In this game it all depends on you. Playing only banker is true like what silverfox said many times before.

This week is a new day for us and i wish everyone heng heng!
 

silverfox@

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I should have won more than i should. Just that i have lost that confidence i use to have. Patience and discipline is the key factors. Win dont need anyone to teach but the losing part is the hardest to learn.

This baccarat game is a testing your patience game. Once you "hot" the house really suck you dry or to say it will "kill" you. Play within your means is another option.

Try to think of losing less. Even if you lose in a session, stop when your reach your bottom target.

Lose $2K in a session, next session you win $3K, you still have $1K
Lose $10K in a session, next session you win $3K, you still lose $7K, and you need to win 3 more times of $3K in order to see profit.

That is why I play Banker only. Because playing Banker is the only way to losing less
 

44mm

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Try to think of losing less. Even if you lose in a session, stop when your reach your bottom target.

Lose $2K in a session, next session you win $3K, you still have $1K
Lose $10K in a session, next session you win $3K, you still lose $7K, and you need to win 3 more times of $3K in order to see profit.

That is why I play Banker only. Because playing Banker is the only way to losing less


I am playing this way now. If i hit my loss % i will stopped and wait for next session. Its not so hard to recover the 20% from next session but its hard if you lost 100% of your capital.

Sometimes i do double my bets when winning for the 1st 3 wins. I read chances for 3 straight wins for banker is about 0.12% compare to player.
 

justl00king

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For me, what I do is my capital I will divide to 3-4 shares. Once I lose my 1st share, will stop and come back later. This goes on for share 2 and 3 as well.

If all lost, I will still have one last backup amount which is not from the capital, and I will decide whether to use it to fight back some capital or totally cut loss and stop.:smile:
 

44mm

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Thats another way of backup.

If you have a plan before you bet and that is good.

Alot of times i play without any plan and thats is when i normally lose.

Today i won $500. Its a good start for me. hehe
 
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john_220903

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Hi

Hello to all sis n bros here...im a newbie in this forum...can i ak u guys some questions on online gambling?

(1) I try afew online casino before, ibc they always cut away the first card of the game while i try mansion casino they deal right away without cutting the first card.Is it the house rule that every casino set? what is the international standard?If they cut away the first card in every game then card counting will be harder right?

(2) How many of u trust online casino down here? Normally online casino offer how many decks of cards?

(3) Can understand that most of the players here mostly bet on bankers only. But what if a shoe open more players then bankers,sure we lose out alot already. From what i see around 20 or more shoes in mansion 1 day almost very hard to predict that banker open more then player. Cause after 20 shoe i record down is around 11time banker more then player,while player only 9time in 1 table. So even with this record of all i bet on banker i still lose out on the 5% on banker cut right.
 

Kia0042

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Generous Asset
Anyone here like to play slot machines and machine roulette at LJ?
Mind to share some tips coz most of the time I lose money at this 2 games.
I don't like table games because there are too many players gathering round a table and many smokers too, I cannot "tah han".
I can't take ferry too, so my only trip to LJ is on every Thursday CNW .

Slot machine like KING KONG CASH & 50LIONS are my favorite games.
Anyone noticed the progressive prize for KING KONG CASH are more difficult to strike compare to Star Cruise, why?!!
 

volcanolee

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Anyone here like to play slot machines and machine roulette at LJ?
Mind to share some tips coz most of the time I lose money at this 2 games.
I don't like table games because there are too many players gathering round a table and many smokers too, I cannot "tah han".
I can't take ferry too, so my only trip to LJ is on every Thursday CNW .

Slot machine like KING KONG CASH & 50LIONS are my favorite games.
Anyone noticed the progressive prize for KING KONG CASH are more difficult to strike compare to Star Cruise, why?!!


i love slot machine too but u will lost most of the time... im not sure about slot machine payout in spore/genting but mostly in vegas, they will advertise payout up to 95%..

i met up with one programmer, he said mainly the slot machine in spore/batam payout only about 20%.. dont know whether its true or not..
 
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