Can Shao Lin monk beat UFC MMA fighters in a real fight?

[kulgai]

Why is everyone talking as if MMA is a martial arts? MMA is simply a fighting match that allows opponents to use any martial arts of their choice be it wrestling, boxing, kung fu, muay, thai etc.
It is therefore rediculous to say MMA is better than kung fu, judo, etc. It doesnt make sense. However, having said that, our experience so far has been that almost all successful fighters use a combination of muay thai and brazillian jiujitsu. (Not the kind practised by clinton6666 of coS). Kung fu, TKD and most stand up fighting styles have not done well so far. Kung Fu especially has been a big let down. You wont find many kung fu fighters up there and none have done well

 

[Ramseth]

Good post. Should give points for you but I've given to others and am restricted now. There're no martial arts in street fighting and rioting. The only sure way to win is to carry a pistol and aim well. Unarmed combat-wise, it depends on how your galls and nerves hold up to the fight.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Bigot talking from his arshole again..

Look in the mirror you bloody bigot. So care to list the racist incidents you encountered in sg? Chinese glared at you? Chinese person didn't smile at you? My oh my you sure have it tough here bigot.

 

[Royalblood]

Yeah... MMA also has a huge edge on the ground.. Taking note that most fights end up on the ground.. MMA takes Brazilian jiujitsu into its art for locking you on the ground while he uses Elbows and knees from muay thai and kickboxing to give you a make up so when you go home, your mama and papa wont know who the fuck you ar.. MMA takes various arts from all different martial art and combines it and makes himself one straight killer.. MMA is pure street fighting.. It wins hand down with any martial art.

Learning mma is the best... You can easily take down people twice your size and pound his face in when he is on the ground.

MMA is the only martial art that is worth learning if you want to defend yourself properly on the streets.

And P.s Comparing Shaolin bullshit with MMA is a big joke... I rather compare MMA with Muay thai, krav maga, jiujitsu.
Shaolin temple bullshit is merely an art of endurance, sucking in pain and basically a SHOWBOATING martial ART. All that is needed when someone opens a shaolin b.s is to give him a fucking slap on his face and he will calm the fuck down.

Ur comparison and analysis is way off . Shaolin/ Chinese martial art is more of an art form rather than as an offensive weapon. Aesthetic comes first while offensive is a second.

MMA, on the other, is all about getting offensive flooring your opponents and getting the prize. The underlying purpose between the two is extremely different and they appeal to a totally different crowd as well.

It is not cool to insult one MA and praise the other MA to high heavens; u showed nothing but ur shallowness and intolerance.

 

[vamjok]

Re: MMA Will Definitely LOSE !

Unfortunately if Bruce Lee did as you said, he would lose a lot of his diehard Chinese fans, including many in this forum.

Why? He made his name as a Chinese fighting non- Chinese using Chinese MA in movies. A Chinese using BJJ won't be so special anymore.

if you read about him, you will know he did not give a damn about what others thought about him much. I was merely predicting what he will do if he encounter bjj based on his JKD philosophy.

 

[krafty]

Re: MMA Will Definitely LOSE !

when i was in china, i met this factory worker, he claimed to be ex-shaolin disciple. all his colleagues and i teased him, called him by the nick "shaolin", i even challenged him to a fight,jokingly, as i dun believe. we were outside the factory, all he did was do some sweeping move with his legs and i almost fell down. i was truly amazed...:o

 

[Ramseth]

Re: MMA Will Definitely LOSE !

when i was in china, i met this factory worker, he claimed to be ex-shaolin disciple. all his colleagues and i teased him, called him by the nick "shaolin", i even challenged him to a fight,jokingly, as i dun believe. we were outside the factory, all he did was do some sweeping move with his legs and i almost fell down. i was truly amazed...:o

Shaolin and most Chinese martial arts are trained rigorously from legs up. 下盘 and 马步。所谓千招百式以稳住阵脚为先。The best trained legs can't be grounded even if you hit his legs with a steel rod but he can ground you flat in one swoop and the fight's over. Even in fist punch fighting style, the objective is not to cause a black eye or bleeding nose as many amateurs are mistaken. The objective of a professional punch is to knock the opponent off balance and ground him.

In gentlemanly or gamely fight, the one left standing always allows the one grounded to stand up first before resuming the fight. Nobody can fight on when he's grounded. The only comical exception I've seen before was David Beckham backflicking his leg to trip Diego Simeone who had tripped him first in World Cup 1998. It worked in football since there's a referee there to stop that nonsense and the worst he got was a red card. In a streetfight, he'd be stomped into a mash.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Re: MMA Will Definitely LOSE !

Shaolin and most Chinese martial arts are trained rigorously from legs up. 下盘 and 马步。所谓千招百式以稳住阵脚为先。The best trained legs can't be grounded even if you hit his legs with a steel rod but he can ground you flat in one swoop and the fight's over. Even in fist punch fighting style, the objective is not to cause a black eye or bleeding nose as many amateurs are mistaken. The objective of a professional punch is to knock the opponent off balance and ground him.

In gentlemanly or gamely fight, the one left standing always allows the one grounded to stand up first before resuming the fight. Nobody can fight on when he's grounded. The only comical exception I've seen before was David Beckham backflicking his leg to trip Diego Simeone who had tripped him first in World Cup 1998. It worked in football since there's a referee there to stop that nonsense and the worst he got was a red card. In a streetfight, he'd be stomped into a mash.

I'm sure ram with your expertise would be able to send these shaolin experts falling to the ground and beat them flat.

 

[Ramseth]

Re: MMA Will Definitely LOSE !

I'm sure ram with your expertise would be able to send these shaolin experts falling to the ground and beat them flat.

Not all. I'd be no match for well drilled and trained exponents. Facing them, I'd look for weapons like blades or firearms.

Jokes aside, real martial arts practising exponents don't look for streetfights. They'd avoid it at all costs. I think I'm enough to settle street ruffians.

 

[chuckyworld]

Re: MMA Will Definitely LOSE !

Peace bro, smoke on the water is daaa best....

 

[chuckyworld]

Re: MMA Will Definitely LOSE !

Not all. I'd be no match for well drilled and trained exponents. Facing them, I'd look for weapons like blades or firearms.

Jokes aside, real martial arts practising exponents don't look for streetfights. They'd avoid it at all costs. I think I'm enough to settle street ruffians.

Think you do know both of this PA instructors Ben and Alex Tan who do BG for visiting VIP (PM) both are Shaolin external students

 

[kulgai]

Re: MMA Will Definitely LOSE !

when i was in china, i met this factory worker, he claimed to be ex-shaolin disciple. all his colleagues and i teased him, called him by the nick "shaolin", i even challenged him to a fight,jokingly, as i dun believe. we were outside the factory, all he did was do some sweeping move with his legs and i almost fell down. i was truly amazed...:o

Any kung fu exponent will be able to easily handle any untrained person. In fact kung fu has the most arsenal of attacks and defence theories. You could say it's the most sophisticated art. Yet, most of the time, we see muay thai outshining kung fu. Muay thai has very few attacks/defence moves but it's always done with precision because mauy thai practitioners trains those few moves over and over again plus they dont hit air, they hit very hard objects eg. banana trees. They also take a lot of beatings during training. This really toughens them up and they become very resilient. This aspect is sorely missing in kung fu training. That's why kung fu exponents always appear weak in the ring.

 

[Forvendet]

Re: MMA Will Definitely LOSE !

Ramseth should be among the last batches of regulars under LKY time as PM in late 80s or early 90s. New recruits after that won't be taught that rubbish anymore after GCT took over PM.

 

[Balls2U]

Re: MMA Will Definitely LOSE !

If Chinese Traditional Kung Fu is wayang stuff, how then did legendary masters like Huo Yuan Jia, Guo Yun Shen (郭雲深), etc. managed to beat the crap out of those foreigners in open lei tai competitions? Go and read up on the biography of Huo Yuan Jia and you'll know what kind of fighter he is. There were no MMA back then, but thoese foreigners are mostly professional boxers, wrestlers from Russia, Karate experts etc. So it all boils down to the skill of the individual, and not whether MMA is superior than TMA.

 

[psy83]

Look in the mirror you bloody bigot. So care to list the racist incidents you encountered in sg? Chinese glared at you? Chinese person didn't smile at you? My oh my you sure have it tough here bigot.

Huh, What? Are you talking bigot??? Why did i become a bigot? Fucking Rasta.. Talking b.s again, as usual if the word chinese or anything related to it.. A smelly sock Rasta will jump out and start barking like a doggy.. Bigot Bigot Bigot.. LOL...

 

[psy83]

Ur comparison and analysis is way off . Shaolin/ Chinese martial art is more of an art form rather than as an offensive weapon. Aesthetic comes first while offensive is a second.

MMA, on the other, is all about getting offensive flooring your opponents and getting the prize. The underlying purpose between the two is extremely different and they appeal to a totally different crowd as well.

It is not cool to insult one MA and praise the other MA to high heavens; u showed nothing but ur shallowness and intolerance.

Eh... You obviously dont know anything about M.A... This is fighting not a debate on Policies.. There is no such thing as Shallowness or intolerance in fighting or saying which is better. We are talking about hand to hand combat.

 

[psy83]

Re: MMA Will Definitely LOSE !

If Chinese Traditional Kung Fu is wayang stuff, how then did legendary masters like Huo Yuan Jia, Guo Yun Shen (郭雲深), etc. managed to beat the crap out of those foreigners in open lei tai competitions? Go and read up on the biography of Huo Yuan Jia and you'll know what kind of fighter he is. There were no MMA back then, but thoese foreigners are mostly professional boxers, wrestlers from Russia, Karate experts etc. So it all boils down to the skill of the individual, and not whether MMA is superior than TMA.

Boil down to the individual alright... But if we talk about the Art it self.. Kung Fu is wayang. Dont agree? No worries.. People have been debating about different art-forms or which is better or worthless for decades.

 

[psy83]

And if any of you Kung Fu fanatics think that just by harping on a few indidivduals or giving your 2 cent worth about the art itself to justify which is better.. My reply is simple.. Discussion and debating of different art-forms has been going around for decades.. And no one will agree with the other.. P.s how many of you have at least some martial art expertise? Or have at least learn karate etc. as a kid? Or have gone to watch fights? Locally and Internationally? Anyone seen the recent MMA fight.. Karate vs Mma at Indoor stadium? Well i have friends going for competitive fights locally and internationally.. My best friend coaches boxing part-time and have another good friend training at Evolve(If anyone knows about this place) i have sat down with guys who have presented Singapore in Sea Games etc...and have friends who have gone to Bangkok to fight at Lumpini stadium.. And debating about different art-forms is very common and no one agrees with the other and we are talking about people who are in the sport and industry.. Not a bunch of nerds sitting infront of the computer talking what they see in the t.v or trying to protect its community's art-form.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Huh, What? Are you talking bigot??? Why did i become a bigot? Fucking Rasta.. Talking b.s again, as usual if the word chinese or anything related to it.. A smelly sock Rasta will jump out and start barking like a doggy.. Bigot Bigot Bigot.. LOL...

So what's the problem if i want to defend it when the word chinese comes up? You worthless piece of shit you're the freaking bigot. Don't come up here with your worthless 0 cent comments when you don't know anything.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Re: MMA Will Definitely LOSE !

Boil down to the individual alright... But if we talk about the Art it self.. Kung Fu is wayang. Dont agree? No worries.. People have been debating about different art-forms or which is better or worthless for decades.

You dumb pos don't comment on it when you don't know anything. Worthless shit skinned bigot.