Breaking news: Suspect arrested for murder

[eQuipment]

from this incident, it is opportunity for CID-SS branch to do a bit of spring cleaning for the specific culprits & gangs involved. just slap the usual suspects with section 55, lock them up & throw away the key.

according to the news reports, some of the culprits were in possession of knives. no reason how & why anyone would wanna bring knives to downtown east. quite obvious that there was motive to injure. since the weapons are classified lethal, the aggravating factor - intent to kill.

those at the crime scene that participated in terminating Darren Ng's life... the lasso is waiting for them.

 

[silverfox@]

DTE is gangster hole? There was a razor interview done on visitors at DTE, quite many of them said groups of young gangsters hang around there often and always at the MacDonalds area.

 

[drifter]

Still some members around. In the past, Hainanese majority. No active recruitment today. More popular decades ago. Holland and Denmark still have some. They have also moved closer home. Today, in another SEA country.

Oh yes , hainanese ..located at hainanese street 2 at beach road if I remember correctly . Heard a guy by the name char Bo hai control holland Amsterdam Chinatown .

 

[Muthukali]

Oh yes , hainanese ..located at hainanese street 2 at beach road if I remember correctly . Heard a guy by the name char Bo hai control holland Amsterdam Chinatown .

yes, its true......n alot of ppl run road to amsterdam look for ah gong......

 

[@rmadill0]

@rmadillO: We each have our own "speciality". Some like scroobal impresses me coz he specialises in so many fields. Me? I am a jack of some trade and master of none. I contribute where I am able to.

I was never a prison officer but I know some of these chaps. As to my previous occupation, I rather be silent on this. Don't wish my identity to be exposed. Hope you understand, bro.

Of course, my apology if I have probed too much. Never my intention to dig your past. Scroobal is a legend but I think you are not too far behind.

 

[Frankiestine]

This case has made me very angry. There have been similar cases in the past.

Several years ago, three men were at a void deck making a ruckus in the early hours of the morning. An individual went to ask them to lower their voices. An argument followed and there was a scuffle which resulted in the death of the individual. The eventual sentence for the 3 men was less than 4 years each. They should be out by now.

A more recent incident occured near chinatown where a group of teenagers set upon another teenager after a staring incident. I believe that the verdict was disorderly conduct and rioting, and they spent months in jail if not at all.

We may speculate whether the charges would be murder, manslaughter or disorderly conduct with rioting, but the outcome would be the same. The attackers would get off after little or no time in jail. No one will get hanged or sentenced for life, you can be sure of that. Law and order may be maintained (after the event), but justice is seldom served.

That why a death squad like those in Indonesia should be set up. For those who escapes the full brunt of the law.

 

[Frankiestine]

That's why for such killings done by teenagers, the parents need to suffer consequences too, and not just in the form of their children being punished.
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I say if they hang those scums, make their parents watch as they have their neck snap off. If they get cane, make them watch as their flesh spilt open and bleed. Make the parent feel the pain.

 

[jw5]

If they established the victim is gang related then those suspects will not be looking at homicide first degree, probably a very much lesser charge.

That should not be the case.
Nobody is claiming that the victim was a choirboy on his way to do charity work. Neither is anyone defending his character, values, choice of friends, affiliations, behaviour, language, upbringing, etc.

But what must be defended and preserved is his right to live, if he was unarmed and had not physically attacked anyone. For this right to be preserved for this victim and for other potential victims, the killers must be dealt with in the most severe manner possible.

It's absurd that a system which serves out death penalties for kidnapping (even if the victim is unhurt) and firing a weapon during a crime (even if nobody was shot), can fail to mete out the most severe penalty for such killings. But we know they can, because it's been done many times before.

Do the killers need to go home for 3 days and hatch a plot to kill someone, before it's considered murder?

 

[drifter]

I say if they hang those scums, make their parents watch as they have their neck snap off. If they get cane, make them watch as their flesh spilt open and bleed. Make the parent feel the pain.[/QUOTE



are you still in china ?

 

[GoldenDragon]

If they established the victim is gang related then those suspects will not be looking at homicide first degree, probably a very much lesser charge.

Doesn't matter whether SS related. There is no evidence to suggest it was a planned murder so murder charge won't stand. It's either to court or CLed. More likely the former.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Oh yes , hainanese ..located at hainanese street 2 at beach road if I remember correctly . Heard a guy by the name char Bo hai control holland Amsterdam Chinatown .

The person you mentioned is from another group. He moves all over. Whether he controls/controlled the group in Holland, let's keep it a secret if we can. He is a nice chap though.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Of course, my apology if I have probed too much. Never my intention to dig your past. Scroobal is a legend but I think you are not too far behind.

Bro, let's be fair to scroobal - he is at least 1000km ahead of me. I am a nobody. Someone even called me a doggie! There are many bros here who are at least 500km ahead of me. I humbly contribute where and when I am able. Thanks for your compliment.

 

[drifter]

The person you mentioned is from another group. He moves all over. Whether he controls/controlled the group in Holland, let's keep it a secret if we can. He is a nice chap though.

agreed ...hes a nice guy , meet up 4 times with him in holland ...his hairstyle suit his nickname ....

ok...we dont much about him in this forum ..

 

[Kid278]

That should not be the case.
Nobody is claiming that the victim was a choirboy on his way to do charity work. Neither is anyone defending his character, values, choice of friends, affiliations, behaviour, language, upbringing, etc.

But what must be defended and preserved is his right to live, if he was unarmed and had not physically attacked anyone. For this right to be preserved for this victim and for other potential victims, the killers must be dealt with in the most severe manner possible.

It's absurd that a system which serves out death penalties for kidnapping (even if the victim is unhurt) and firing a weapon during a crime (even if nobody was shot), can fail to mete out the most severe penalty for such killings. But we know they can, because it's been done many times before.

Do the killers need to go home for 3 days and hatch a plot to kill someone, before it's considered murder?

I know where you're coming from but the law doesnt work that way. If the victim is a gang member then the killing is about rivalry. His death is the result of a fight, a riot between two groups. As such there'll always be reasonable doubt, murder charge will not stand, plot or no plot.

 

[drifter]

agreed ...hes a nice guy , meet up 4 times with him in holland ...his hairstyle suit his nickname ....

ok...we dont talk much about him in this forum ..

. there might be some IU people around here .

 

[GoldenDragon]

. there might be some IU people around here .

IU or not it's ok. If they don't already have his update, IU should close shop coz the men in the streets seem to have better info.

Btw, surely you know IU goes by another name.

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

Done - I say Manslaughter, PG and 7 years for some of them and rest rioting with dangerous weapons.

If not for the upcoming elections this is what I would expect too. In SG, the cops and the SS can be thought off as one and the same. BUt since this case can be used for election purposes it is difficult to know how the biggest SS in SG will proceed from here.

There are a ridiculous number of slashing cases in SG that go unreported by the media prostitutes. This one hit the headlines but when the media continues to push the agenda, you must know that something or somoene wants to take advantage of the situation.

In SG if you are hauled up for questioning, the IO already has reports of you from your school days. They will know if you are a 'naughty boy' since your school days.

Singapore is a fascist state so you better believe all of this.

When a slashing occurs it is normal for the police. If it is a case involving different races or more it occurs at the same location more than once in quick succession then the cops go into high gear.

All they do is to refer to previous records and pick up suspected SS members and humtum them jialat jialat to get information from them.

In such cases, it is actually not difficult to prove murder but our courts have been known to only sentence such cases as rioting and causing grievious hurt instead of murder.

In terms of revenge, this will be done in the prisons or RTC already or very soon. Revenge is seldom carried out in public. The so-called brotherhood in the big houses will already know of this and will be taking their own action soon if they deem it fit.

 

[Ramseth]

I know where you're coming from but the law doesnt work that way. If the victim is a gang member then the killing is about rivalry. His death is the result of a fight, a riot between two groups. As such there'll always be reasonable doubt, murder charge will not stand, plot or no plot.

There're two points for the prosecution to work on.

1. There was a fist fight earlier and they went back to get the knives.

2. The manner of the killing. In a gangfight manslaughter, it's messy cross slashing, fallen and done with. In this case, they grouped around him and continued slashing after his gang had fled and he had fallen.

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

I know where you're coming from but the law doesnt work that way. If the victim is a gang member then the killing is about rivalry. His death is the result of a fight, a riot between two groups. As such there'll always be reasonable doubt, murder charge will not stand, plot or no plot.

Your stand - typical gangfight. except this one ends with a death.

Typical SG legalese on such cases - let them be. so 4-7 years - rioting and grievous hurt.

My stand - show the number of deaths caused by similar or identical weapons. show the number of deaths in gang fights. show the correlation between deaths at gang fights and similar weapons.

I can assure you that the correlation will be very high. Meaning, most deaths in gangfights are due to the use of similar or identical weapons.

Given this high correlation, how can the courts deny that when gang members use such weapons in a fight, that an act of murder should not be considered.

 

[GoldenDragon]

In SG if you are hauled up for questioning, the IO already has reports of you from your school days. They will know if you are a 'naughty boy' since your school days.

Disagree. The police reacts to crime. Can they know in advance which kid among the tens of thousands is going to be the next shoplifter? School reports are requested by the IOs only after an offence is committed.

If you are referring to non-police entities, I agree with you 100%.