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[Breaking 17 Sep] Israel hits back at Hezbollah members by mass remote detonating their pagers!
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They could have ‘hacked’ the pagers to get info too. Blowing them up terminated that source of intel
Such a brilliant move! Clandestine and high tech. Only the brilliant Israelis could've come up with this.
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Gold Apollo says Budapest-based BAC produces model of pagers used in Lebanon blasts
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...ake-pagers-used-lebanon-explosion-2024-09-18/NEW TAIPEI, Taiwan, Sept 18 (Reuters) - The model of pagers used in detonations in Lebanon were made by Budapest-based BAC Consulting, Taiwanese pager firm Gold Apollo said on Wednesday, adding it had only licensed out its brand to the company and was not involved in the production of the devices. Images of destroyed pagers analysed by Reuters showed a format and stickers on the back that were consistent with pagers made by Gold Apollo.
"The product was not ours. It was only that it had our brand on it," Gold Apollo founder and president, Hsu Ching-kuang, told reporters at the company's offices in the northern Taiwanese city of New Taipei on Wednesday.
The company said in a statement that the AR-924 model was produced and sold by BAC. Reuters calls and emails to BAC on Wednesday morning were not answered.
Hsu said earlier there had been problems with remittances from the firm.
While Hsu was meeting with reporters, police officials arrived at the company. Officials from Taiwan's economy ministry also visited Gold Apollo.
"The remittance was very strange," he said, adding that payments had come through the Middle East. He did not elaborate further.
The ministry said in a statement that there was no record of direct pager exports from Taiwan to Lebanon.
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OEM pagers...lol
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It's obvious that only terrorist use pagers...so the Israelis did the right thing...
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Thousands of pagers exploded across Lebanon killing at least nine people, according to local authorities. (Reuters: Mohamed Azakir)
Six months ago, Hezbollah's secretary-general Hassan Nasrallah called on the group's members and their families in southern Lebanon to forgo their mobile phones.
"Shut it off, bury it, put it in an iron chest and lock it up," he said in a televised speech.
"Do it for the sake of security and to protect the blood and dignity of people."
The Lebanese militant group opted for using pagers instead.
Experts say the assumption was they would be more difficult to track and infiltrate with Israeli spyware.
But thousands of those pagers have been simultaneously exploded in a deadly attack across Lebanon.
At least nine people have been killed and about 2,800 injured, according to local authorities.
They are a small, wireless, battery-operated devices that receive short messages through a central operator — either in text or a recording.
They work on radio waves, so there are no Global Positioning System (GPS) tracking capabilities.
Toby Walsh from the UNSW School of Computer Science and Engineering said trying to track a pager would be like trying to track someone listening to a radio broadcast.
"You're not really giving anything about yourself away from them, so they (Hezbollah) thought it would be a more secure way to communicate with each other," he said.
They lasted about an hour, with Reuters witnesses and residents of Dahiyeh saying they could still hear explosions at 4:30pm.
According to security sources and footage reviewed by Reuters, some of the detonations took place after the pagers rang, causing the fighters to put their hands on them or bring them up to their faces to check the screens.
Regional news outlets have broadcast CCTV footage showing what appeared to be a small handheld device spontaneously exploding after being placed next to a grocery store cashier where an individual was paying.
Ambulances arrive to American University of Beirut Medical Center in Beirut after thousands were injured in the attack. (Reuters: Mohamed Azakir)
At least nine people have been killed and about 2,800 injured, according to local authorities.
That included some non-Hezbollah victims, such as an eight-year-old girl killed in the Bekaa Valley.
A Hezbollah official has called it the group's "biggest security breach" since the Gaza conflict between Israel and its ally Hamas erupted last October.
The war in Gaza broke out after an October 7 attack by Hamas on southern Israel which resulted in more than 1,200 deaths, Israeli authorities say.
And about 250 Israelis and foreigners were taken hostage.
Israel's retaliatory military campaign has so far killed at least more than 40,000 people in Gaza, according to the Gaza health ministry.
The Iranian-backed militant group blamed Israel for the widespread attack in Lebanon and said it would get "its fair punishment".
The Israeli military declined to comment.
A few months ago, Hezbollah officials reportedly instructed the group's members to stop using mobile phones, in fear that Israel could use them to locate and monitor fighters.
The pagers have since been widely distributed across Hezbollah members and allow the group to also communicate in remote areas, including deep in Lebanon's south.
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Duration: 14 seconds
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Video shared on Israeli media and social media shows remnants of an exploded pager on a table.
The pagers targeted in the attack were reportedly made by Taiwan-based Gold Apollo, which several sources say were brought into the country in the spring.
A senior Lebanese security source told Reuters that 5,000 of the Gold Apollo beepers had been ordered by the group earlier in the year.
He identified a photograph of the model of the pager, an AP924, which like other pagers wirelessly receives and displays text messages but cannot be used to make telephone calls.
Gold Apollo's founder Hsu Ching-Kuang has since said the company did not make the pagers used in the detonations in Lebanon.
He told reporters that they were made by a company in Europe that had the right to use the Taiwanese firm's brand.
But Paul Christensen, an expert in lithium ion battery safety at Newcastle University, said the damage seemed inconsistent with past cases of such batteries failing.
"What we're talking about is a relatively small battery bursting into flames," he told Reuters.
"We're not talking of a fatal explosion here … My intuition is telling me that it's highly unlikely."
An electronic warfare expert, who spoke to the ABC on condition of anonymity because of security considerations, said the explosions were immediate, not like a lithium battery in "run away" mode, which indicated the pagers were likely modified.
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Duration: 46 seconds
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At least nine people have been killed and about 2,800 others injured after pagers used by the militant group Hezbollah exploded in a wave of blasts across Lebanon.
The New York Times reported that Israel hid explosive material within a new batch of the pagers before they were imported to Lebanon, citing American and other officials briefed on the operation.
A senior Lebanese security source told Reuters that up to three grams of explosives were hidden in the new pagers and had gone "undetected" by Hezbollah for months.
Professor Walsh said the reports indicated that the pagers were potentially hacked, and a small amount of explosives were placed inside the casing of the devices.
"They would have had to have physical access to the pager," he said.
A person is carried on a stretcher outside American University of Beirut Medical Center (AUBMC) as people, including Hezbollah fighters and medics, were wounded and killed when the pagers they use to communicate exploded across Lebanon, according to a security source, in Beirut, Lebanon September 17, 2024.(Reuters: Mohamed Azakir)
A malware would have also been implanted in the the pager network to put it into "self-destruct mode".
When a particular message was received it would have triggered the "adverse code" for the explosives to be detonated.
"They would have chosen the moment when they thought was most opportune to explode all these pages at the same time," Professor Walsh said.
Hezbollah member of the Lebanese parliament Ali Ammar is comforted by a friend after his son was killed in the detonation of pagers.(Reuters: Mohamed Azakir)
"As far as I'm aware, this is a first. We've never seen anything like this, and certainly nothing like this on this scale," Professor Walsh said.
"It's a very indiscriminate attack, because you might put the pager down in your desk, and as we have heard from reports there were various innocent people who were injured by this," he said.
Israeli media reported the IDF was "on alert" after Hezbollah's threat to retaliate, with Defense Minister Yoav Gallant holding a meeting with the military's chief of staff on Tuesday evening, local time.
Director of the Institute of Political Science at Saint Joseph University Sami Nader, who is a former adviser to Lebanon's minister of Labor, said the scope and gravity of the attacks have serious implications for regional stability.
"This is something that has the potential to propel the region into full-blown war. But one question remains," Mr Nader told ABC News Channel.
"Is Hezbollah ready for this full-blown war? Does Hezbollah still have capabilities of such confrontation, and which communication system will they rely on to conduct such an operation?"
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Duration: 4 minutes 48 seconds
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Sami Nader says the attack on Hezbollah in which pagers exploded across Lebanon and thousands of people were in injured has the potential of propelling the region into a full-blown war.
ABC/Reuters
Hezbollah thought pagers would be safer than mobiles. Then the devices exploded across Lebanon
Posted 7h ago7 hours ago
Six months ago, Hezbollah's secretary-general Hassan Nasrallah called on the group's members and their families in southern Lebanon to forgo their mobile phones.
"Shut it off, bury it, put it in an iron chest and lock it up," he said in a televised speech.
"Do it for the sake of security and to protect the blood and dignity of people."
The Lebanese militant group opted for using pagers instead.
Experts say the assumption was they would be more difficult to track and infiltrate with Israeli spyware.
But thousands of those pagers have been simultaneously exploded in a deadly attack across Lebanon.
At least nine people have been killed and about 2,800 injured, according to local authorities.
What are pagers?
Pagers, also known as beepers, were popular in the 1980s before mobile phone use became widespread.They are a small, wireless, battery-operated devices that receive short messages through a central operator — either in text or a recording.
They work on radio waves, so there are no Global Positioning System (GPS) tracking capabilities.
Toby Walsh from the UNSW School of Computer Science and Engineering said trying to track a pager would be like trying to track someone listening to a radio broadcast.
"You're not really giving anything about yourself away from them, so they (Hezbollah) thought it would be a more secure way to communicate with each other," he said.
They lasted about an hour, with Reuters witnesses and residents of Dahiyeh saying they could still hear explosions at 4:30pm.
According to security sources and footage reviewed by Reuters, some of the detonations took place after the pagers rang, causing the fighters to put their hands on them or bring them up to their faces to check the screens.
Regional news outlets have broadcast CCTV footage showing what appeared to be a small handheld device spontaneously exploding after being placed next to a grocery store cashier where an individual was paying.
Ambulances arrive to American University of Beirut Medical Center in Beirut after thousands were injured in the attack. (Reuters: Mohamed Azakir)
At least nine people have been killed and about 2,800 injured, according to local authorities.
That included some non-Hezbollah victims, such as an eight-year-old girl killed in the Bekaa Valley.
A Hezbollah official has called it the group's "biggest security breach" since the Gaza conflict between Israel and its ally Hamas erupted last October.
The war in Gaza broke out after an October 7 attack by Hamas on southern Israel which resulted in more than 1,200 deaths, Israeli authorities say.
And about 250 Israelis and foreigners were taken hostage.
Israel's retaliatory military campaign has so far killed at least more than 40,000 people in Gaza, according to the Gaza health ministry.
The Iranian-backed militant group blamed Israel for the widespread attack in Lebanon and said it would get "its fair punishment".
The Israeli military declined to comment.
What type of pager exploded?
During the last year, there has been heightened conflict between Hezbollah and Israel, on the Israel/Lebanon border, as part of a spillover from the Israel-Gaza war.A few months ago, Hezbollah officials reportedly instructed the group's members to stop using mobile phones, in fear that Israel could use them to locate and monitor fighters.
The pagers have since been widely distributed across Hezbollah members and allow the group to also communicate in remote areas, including deep in Lebanon's south.
Watch
Duration: 14 seconds
14s
Video shared on Israeli media and social media shows remnants of an exploded pager on a table.
The pagers targeted in the attack were reportedly made by Taiwan-based Gold Apollo, which several sources say were brought into the country in the spring.
A senior Lebanese security source told Reuters that 5,000 of the Gold Apollo beepers had been ordered by the group earlier in the year.
He identified a photograph of the model of the pager, an AP924, which like other pagers wirelessly receives and displays text messages but cannot be used to make telephone calls.
Gold Apollo's founder Hsu Ching-Kuang has since said the company did not make the pagers used in the detonations in Lebanon.
He told reporters that they were made by a company in Europe that had the right to use the Taiwanese firm's brand.
What caused them to explode?
Diplomatic and security sources have speculated that the explosions could have been caused by the devices' batteries detonating, possibly through overheating.But Paul Christensen, an expert in lithium ion battery safety at Newcastle University, said the damage seemed inconsistent with past cases of such batteries failing.
"What we're talking about is a relatively small battery bursting into flames," he told Reuters.
"We're not talking of a fatal explosion here … My intuition is telling me that it's highly unlikely."
An electronic warfare expert, who spoke to the ABC on condition of anonymity because of security considerations, said the explosions were immediate, not like a lithium battery in "run away" mode, which indicated the pagers were likely modified.
Watch
Duration: 46 seconds
46s
At least nine people have been killed and about 2,800 others injured after pagers used by the militant group Hezbollah exploded in a wave of blasts across Lebanon.
The New York Times reported that Israel hid explosive material within a new batch of the pagers before they were imported to Lebanon, citing American and other officials briefed on the operation.
A senior Lebanese security source told Reuters that up to three grams of explosives were hidden in the new pagers and had gone "undetected" by Hezbollah for months.
Professor Walsh said the reports indicated that the pagers were potentially hacked, and a small amount of explosives were placed inside the casing of the devices.
"They would have had to have physical access to the pager," he said.
A person is carried on a stretcher outside American University of Beirut Medical Center (AUBMC) as people, including Hezbollah fighters and medics, were wounded and killed when the pagers they use to communicate exploded across Lebanon, according to a security source, in Beirut, Lebanon September 17, 2024.(Reuters: Mohamed Azakir)
A malware would have also been implanted in the the pager network to put it into "self-destruct mode".
When a particular message was received it would have triggered the "adverse code" for the explosives to be detonated.
"They would have chosen the moment when they thought was most opportune to explode all these pages at the same time," Professor Walsh said.
Hezbollah member of the Lebanese parliament Ali Ammar is comforted by a friend after his son was killed in the detonation of pagers.(Reuters: Mohamed Azakir)
What next?
Experts say the plot appears to have been many months in the making."As far as I'm aware, this is a first. We've never seen anything like this, and certainly nothing like this on this scale," Professor Walsh said.
"It's a very indiscriminate attack, because you might put the pager down in your desk, and as we have heard from reports there were various innocent people who were injured by this," he said.
Israeli media reported the IDF was "on alert" after Hezbollah's threat to retaliate, with Defense Minister Yoav Gallant holding a meeting with the military's chief of staff on Tuesday evening, local time.
Director of the Institute of Political Science at Saint Joseph University Sami Nader, who is a former adviser to Lebanon's minister of Labor, said the scope and gravity of the attacks have serious implications for regional stability.
"This is something that has the potential to propel the region into full-blown war. But one question remains," Mr Nader told ABC News Channel.
"Is Hezbollah ready for this full-blown war? Does Hezbollah still have capabilities of such confrontation, and which communication system will they rely on to conduct such an operation?"
Watch
Duration: 4 minutes 48 seconds
4m 48s
Sami Nader says the attack on Hezbollah in which pagers exploded across Lebanon and thousands of people were in injured has the potential of propelling the region into a full-blown war.
ABC/Reuters
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Hungarian and Taiwanese authorities denied that the pagers were made in their respective countries.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/world/asia/taiwan-pagers-lebanon.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/18/gold-apollo-hezbollah-lebanon-pagers/
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https://www.scmp.com/video/yonden-l...ol42tp3Ntv7hLkwhdI=&utm_campaign=social_share
“If this is not terrorism, I don’t know what is,” says the Post’s managing editor of content, Yonden Lhatoo, about the carnage in Lebanon caused by exploding pagers and walkie-talkies.
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THIS IS TERRORISM
23 SHARES“If this is not terrorism, I don’t know what is,” says the Post’s managing editor of content, Yonden Lhatoo, about the carnage in Lebanon caused by exploding pagers and walkie-talkies.
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There is some unverified news on the internet that Golden Apollo has been working very close with American government for the past decade. A 2011 Taiwanese news article even featured them as a close telecom equipment supplier for the FBI.
Let's wait and see ...
Let's wait and see ...
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Ever heard of rope a dope? Not only Israel, but eventually US too will run out of ammo. That's when we will. Hit back.
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The Lebanon pager attack: Israel’s terror playbook strikes again
Indiscriminate violence is a favourite Israeli tactic, whether deployed in Gaza, Lebanon or elsewhere.
Belén Fernández
Al Jazeera columnist- On Tuesday, hundreds of handheld pagers used by members of the Lebanese armed group Hezbollah simultaneously exploded across Lebanon, killing at least 12 people, including two children. Nearly 3,000 others were wounded, many of them critically.
No one has claimed responsibility for the operation, but it is not hard to guess who is behind it: Israel, a nation that specialises in terrorising selected Arab civilian populations under the pretence of fighting terror. Since October of last year, this same nation has busied itself carrying out genocide in the Gaza Strip, where officially more than 41,000 Palestinians have been killed but the true death toll is likely many times higher.
And while the ostensible targets of Tuesday’s attack were pager-wielding Hezbollah members, it was carried out with the full knowledge that the fallout would be indiscriminate and that massive civilian casualties would ensue. But that is the whole point of terrorism, is it not?
Hezbollah, it bears underscoring, owes its entire existence to the terroristic 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon that slaughtered tens of thousands of Lebanese and Palestinians. Israel’s torture-happy occupation of southern Lebanon persisted until May 2000, when the Israeli military was ignominiously forced to withdraw its forces by the Hezbollah-led Lebanese resistance.
Relatives mourn Fatima Abdallah, a eight-year-old girl killed after hundreds of paging devices exploded across Lebanon, during her funeral in the village of Saraain in the Bekaa valley on September 18, 2024 [AFP]
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It resembles the familiar terrorism act and some innocent casualties are as a result, but it's not. The pagers and walkie-talkies were used by civilians?
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