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The government is actually run by the army, supported by the Amataya(Thailand's MIW). Thais are so feudalistic in their mindsets that their relationships are based on serfdom, no more no less.
sinkieland is run by a bunch of white criminals.. Talk about serfdom, isn't sinkieland the same.
 

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If Thaksin knows he is irrelevant then there is possibility of a change. Right now Thaksin is still talking to the red shirts, instigating them to rise up and hoping for a come back to the same old same old.

If Thaksin backs off there might be a chance. as you mentioned, population is more informed and this will demand for change.

My view is this is all a sham. Pop is too poor and can easily fall to vote buying. On one hand you have holier than thou Mr Thaksin who used his position to accumulate wealth - even went to level of selling his telco to Singapore using nominees to hide foreign ownership. On the other hand you have the military generals hoping to get their hands into the money pot. On top of that you have an ailing King - concerned about his loss of prestige - the ability of his son to carry on. Below that you have a huge bunch of poor serfs, easily influenced.

My point is not to judge the politics but to see the strategy used. Current PM is pretty smart (vs the good old army crackdown) and he is able to defuse the situation. Thaksin is basically running out of time and money. How many other 3rd world countries can he hide in?





That is why my contention is that democracy is a farce in countries where there is no majority middle class.




Thaksin is just a rallying symbol for the Red Shirts. The fire of change has been lit and there is no end in sight. Abhisit is as powerless as a puppet should be. Sharing of power is the only way to go but will those who are immersed in power let go of their tools to riches ? No, they will hang on and has to be forcibly removed.

The view on Thaksin's corruption was manufactured by his opponents and perpetuated by MSM and in fact he was the richest man in Thailand well before he was PM. His wealth accumulation was in line with his business instinct. He transferred most of his wealth to others before he took up the premiership to avoid a conflict of interest but no newspapers in the MSM ever harp on this fact but always on the charges of corruption aftewr he was disposed. How fair could those chargers ne when those Amatayas acted as judges, juries and excutioners ? He was pinned on a tax evasion charge on capital gains when he sold his telco to Temasik but there never was any capital gains tax to be paid in Thailand prior to that time because there was simply no such law then and how convenient it was to draw up some laws just to persecute and prosecute him.

Thaksin's banned interview : http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6909258.ece
 

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Thaksin is just a rallying symbol for the Red Shirts. The fire of change has been lit and there is no end in sight. Abhisit is as powerless as a puppet should be. Sharing of power is the only way to go but will those who are immersed in power let go of their tools to riches ? No, they will hang on and has to be forcibly removed.

V For Vendetta in real life action. V may not be there but the masses are on the streets. Something like that happened in Iran 1979 when Ayatollah Khomeini was still exiled in France. He didn't return until the revolution had succeeded and the Shah was overthrown. Another was in Phillipines 1983 when Benigno Aquino, then exiled in the US, returned before Ferdinand Marcos was completely overthrown. He was promptly shot on arrival. I believe that Thaksin Shinawatra would bear this mind.
 

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Abhisit Vejjajive really should learn from Mr.lky and family, in the begining he should start to SUE and bankrupt all opposition leaders; must make sure to control justice system and leetizens' housing, things could be differently.

Do U even know why they are protesting? The government sued and found Thaksin guilty of corruption and took away most of his money. That was one of the main reason what started this in the first place.
 

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V For Vendetta in real life action. V may not be there but the masses are on the streets. Something like that happened in Iran 1979 when Ayatollah Khomeini was still exiled in France. He didn't return until the revolution had succeeded and the Shah was overthrown. Another was in Phillipines 1983 when Benigno Aquino, then exiled in the US, returned before Ferdinand Marcos was completely overthrown. He was promptly shot on arrival. I believe that Thaksin Shinawatra would bear this mind.



Very similar indeed, but at least the Iranians and the Philipines kept their teritorial integrity intact. If the revolution is to slam into Thailand, she could be broken up into several pieces. Scary scenarios but very possible.

The king is Bangkok, the kingdom is Bangkok and it was and is, and always will be Bangkok. Thailand didn't have that much depth in history as they would like us to believe. Thailand is very polarised if you just scratch under the the surface.


The Northerners had their own King Of Chiangmai until annexed by Bangkok in 1931.

The Lao in the North-East were different from them and was annexed during the reign of Rama 3, in the 1830's and border was marked west of Mekong River when the French intruded in 1904.

The Pattani Sultanate in the South was usurped in 1909 when the Anglo-Siam Treaty was signed.

The ongoing spat with Cambodia over that tiny piece of temple real estate...But the real issue is that the Khmers have influence all the way up to Nakorn Ratchasima(Korat) and this is what really scares Bangkok.



Basically, Thailand is a fractured collection of states administered and forgotten by Bangkok and if the seachange is coming through, Thailand as we know might not exists anymore. Scary but possible.
 

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Red-shirted protesters rally in Bangkok, Thailand, March 22, 2010.


By Panarat Thepgumpanat

BANGKOK, March 23 --Thailand will likely extend a tough security law on Tuesday for another week after opposition protest leaders called for a "historic rally" this weekend to paralyse Bangkok in their campaign to force elections.

Tens of thousands of protesters remained on the streets in the capital's historic heart in their trademark red shirts, calling for Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to dissolve parliament as their protest enters a second week.

Their leaders, allied with toppled premier Thaksin Shinawatra, have not revealed details of their plans for the rally on Saturday and whether they plan to fan out across the city as 65,000 did last Saturday.

"Since the protest continues and they are calling for another mass gathering, security advisers have recommended that the cabinet extend the use of the Internal Security Act," said Panitan Watanayagorn, an acting government spokesman.

The cabinet will formally decide later on Tuesday at its weekly meeting whether the law will be extended until March 30.

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A policeman stands guard near the site of the "Red Shirt" rally in Bangkok, Thailand, March 22, 2010.


The rally has so far been orderly and Abhisit still maintains the support of the majority in parliament and the backing of the powerful military.

These factors have encouraged continued fund flows into Thai assets, pushing Thai stocks .SETI to around a 20-month on Tuesday, drawn by cheap share prices and high dividend yields.

"Foreign funds should continue to flow into the market. Thai politics is still not a big worry," Thanachart Securities said in a note to clients.

Abhisit has given no indication he would bow to the protesters' demands for early elections, which the opposition is well placed to win.

He insists the deep political divisions would undermine any chance of peaceful polls if an election were held now


The ISA gives the country's top security agency, the Internal Security Operations Command, an option to impose curfews, operate checkpoints and restricts movements if protests turn violent.

Political analysts say the longer the protesters are on the streets, the greater the risk a frustrated minority could break ranks and spark sporadic unrest, as they did in April 2008 and Thailand's image as a safe tourist destination took a hit.

Such concerns were raised by two attacks on Saturday night on what authorities said were symbolic targets -- one grenade landed near the Defence Ministry, wounding two people, while an explosive device was hurled at the headquarters of the National Anti-Corruption Commission in a province bordering Bangkok.

Neither attack has been linked to the "red shirts" and there has been no sign of violence at the main protest site.

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Nattawut Saikua, one of the red-shirts' core leaders, addresses a press conference during a rally in Bangkok, Thailand, March 22, 2010.


On Tuesday, protesters gave alms to dozens of Buddhist monks who chanted and blessed them on the rally stage. They later plan to ride up to 2,000 motorcycles around Bangkok to give out leaflets, urging city residents to join the rally.

Protesters promised not to disrupt the cabinet meeting which has been moved to the Ministry of Public Health in a province bordering Bangkok instead of the usual Government House because of the protests.

Abhisit has not entered his office, his private home, or the parliament since March 12, instead working out of a military base which also doubles as a safe house.



The Internal Security Act (ISA) has been enforced by the Thai government in eight provinces during March 11-23 to ensure security during the rally.

The ISA imposition has taken effect in the whole area of Bangkok and Nonthaburi, which is next to Bangkok.

Also, the ISA law has been enforced in some 21 districts of six other provinces nearby Bangkok, including Pathum Thani, Samut Prakan, Samut Sakhon, Chachoengsao, Nakhon Pathom, and Ayutthaya.





How popular is a PM who couldn't go home, couldn't go to office and have to take refuge in an army barrack ?
 

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The Thai media apparently can no longer get away scot free with blatant manipulation of the news as they once did, according to Simon Montlake in the CSM, as canny news-addicts turn to the Internet and cable TV and other alternative media sources that are not quite so much the mouthpieces of either of the political parties or the powers-that-be as the big dailies and mainstream TV channels.

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The latest Red-Shirt ploy will be to festoon the capital in stickers urging immediate House dissolution, apparemntly. The good thing about these is that they will serve as a constant reminder as the stickers, if laminated, will remain on the lamposts for a considerable time after the last Red-Shirts have left the city, if they ever do!


Meanwhile, blatant attempts to freak out the protestors by spreading rumours of A(H1N1) flu-infected Red-Shirt individuals roaming their ranks, ready to spread the flu like wildfire seems to have fallen flat, somewhat. It was revealed that the infected person in question, now hopitalised, wasn’t one of the reds, but an Interior Ministry volunteer monitoring the situation. The medical authorities haven’t yet ascertained or revealed whether this flu-ridden individual caught it at the demos or from his home in Phetchaburi.



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It seems that the Bangkok public transportation systems owe a debt of gratitude to the Red Shirts for forcing commuters off the streets and onto the Skytrain and Underground. Underground operator, Bangkok Metro Plc (BMCL) reported a record surge on Saturday from their normal traffic of 80,000 passengers to 200,000, whereas the company that runs the Skytrain, Bangkok Mass Transit System (BTSC), after reporting a drop of 20% in their ‘ridership’ for the first few days of the Red-Shirt demos, stated that their norm has now recovered and even been surpassed.

The Internet has also helped to overcome the lese majesty news clampdowns about speculation on the succession and other taboo subjects, albeit that that audacious mag, The Economist, was banned from Thailand’s streets when it wrote a succession piece. That makes four times the outspoken but highly objective British magazine has been banned in Thailand.

The government may be able to suppress hard print in this way, but the website of The Economist still carried the story, as did Google News and other web-sources. There’s hope for the country yet!

Taliesin Verity
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Not us, OK ??? We are Anti-Violence !!!
 

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Anti-government protesters and supporters of former Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra hold stickers reading "Dissolve the Parliament" before distributing them on their motorcycles in Bangkok March 23, 2010. Thailand will likely extend a tough security law on Tuesday for another week after opposition protest leaders called for a "historic rally" this weekend to paralyse Bangkok in their campaign to force elections.

 

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It means holiday (or rest) for Songkran. Even the Thai spelling for Songkran is wrong.


It was a mock protest outside the Whitehouse. :biggrin:
It means Yud Songkhram หยุด สงคราม (Stop the War)

สงกรานต์(Songkran) is spelt this way, with a silent T at the end. The tiny script above the final T( ต์ Tor Tao) is called a thanthakhat and it is used as a cancellation mark from a formerly Pali spelling or pronounce. It is also used as a letter replacement for transliteration from other languages into Thai language.


Hope this helps...:wink:
 

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Thanks pal. My Thai reading and writing still half past six. LOL!
 

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Thanks pal. My Thai reading and writing still half past six. LOL!

You are welcome. Half past six is still better than none. At least the street signs will look intelligible and save the hassles of getting lost.

The Thai should romanised their language into pin yin because there are alot of obsolete letters and letters that carry the same attributes and connotations. They should free up their kids many years of unnecesary schooling and make them competitive in a roman alphabet's world. Imagine an L that ends with an N, an S that ends with a T, a Y that ends like an N and many more letters that are merely ornamentals, hahhaha....
 

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สงกรานต์(Songkran) is spelt this way, with a silent T at the end. The tiny script above the final T( ต์ Tor Tao) is called a thanthakhat and it is used as a cancellation mark

may I humbly correct you, this is called " kar-rant " not " han-ar-khat"

" han-ar-khat" is vowel equivalent to 'u' in English
 

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The Thai should romanised their language into pin yin because there are alot of obsolete letters and letters that carry the same attributes and connotations. They should free up their kids many years of unnecesary schooling and make them competitive in a roman alphabet's world. Imagine an L that ends with an N, an S that ends with a T, a Y that ends like an N and many more letters that are merely ornamentals, hahhaha....

Actually, it's possible even with the tones. The Viets did it. However, the culturally and nationalistically conservative Thais (most of them being the ones in positions of power) want to stick with the Sanskrit-based Thai script. Just like the Japanese language, without tones even easier compatibly converted to Roman script, sticks to the semi-Japanese semi-Chinese script. Korean too, but it insist on full Korean script except for certain proper nouns and historical references in Chinese characters.
 

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There is so much misinformation out there. But lets use actual facts to see the type of man Thaksin is. We know he is a brilliant businessman.

Fact is: Thaksin as PM sold his Shin Corp to Temasek even though he was well aware that it is illegal for a foreigner to hold majority share in a Thai telecom company. Temasek and Thaksin were caught red handed. Ok some might say it is done by many businesses. But for a sitting PM to be involved in such conduct points to his character. Why did he sell to Temasek? Money of course. This shows that he is willing to make $ even if it means contravening law and while he is still PM. Also, wasn't he seen in Singapore on a private visit at the time of the transaction. So what is the point of transferring is assets to avoid conflicts of interest when he appeared to be conducting sale of major portion of his business empire while he was PM.

Now is the above fact correct??

The rest of the allegation are hard to determine given the various agenda but we can see the tone of his character in the Shin sale.




The view on Thaksin's corruption was manufactured by his opponents and perpetuated by MSM and in fact he was the richest man in Thailand well before he was PM. His wealth accumulation was in line with his business instinct. He transferred most of his wealth to others before he took up the premiership to avoid a conflict of interest but no newspapers in the MSM ever harp on this fact but always on the charges of corruption aftewr he was disposed. How fair could those chargers ne when those Amatayas acted as judges, juries and excutioners ? He was pinned on a tax evasion charge on capital gains when he sold his telco to Temasik but there never was any capital gains tax to be paid in Thailand prior to that time because there was simply no such law then and how convenient it was to draw up some laws just to persecute and prosecute him.
 

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may I humbly correct you, this is called " kar-rant " not " han-ar-khat"

" han-ar-khat" is vowel equivalent to 'u' in English

Sorry, I should have used the colloquial term "kar-rant" instead of the academic term "thanthakhat," which is rarely used, anyway.

"mai han-ar-khat" is different from "thanthakhat" aka "kar-rant"

"mai han-ar-khat is a vowel for an A as in SwAtdee(สวัสดี)

อุ is the short vowel U

อู is the long vowel U
 

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There is so much misinformation out there. But lets use actual facts to see the type of man Thaksin is. We know he is a brilliant businessman.

Fact is: Thaksin as PM sold his Shin Corp to Temasek even though he was well aware that it is illegal for a foreigner to hold majority share in a Thai telecom company. Temasek and Thaksin were caught red handed. Ok some might say it is done by many businesses. But for a sitting PM to be involved in such conduct points to his character. Why did he sell to Temasek? Money of course. This shows that he is willing to make $ even if it means contravening law and while he is still PM. Also, wasn't he seen in Singapore on a private visit at the time of the transaction. So what is the point of transferring is assets to avoid conflicts of interest when he appeared to be conducting sale of major portion of his business empire while he was PM.

Now is the above fact correct??

The rest of the allegation are hard to determine given the various agenda but we can see the tone of his character in the Shin sale.




The view on Thaksin's corruption was manufactured by his opponents and perpetuated by MSM and in fact he was the richest man in Thailand well before he was PM. His wealth accumulation was in line with his business instinct. He transferred most of his wealth to others before he took up the premiership to avoid a conflict of interest but no newspapers in the MSM ever harp on this fact but always on the charges of corruption aftewr he was disposed. How fair could those chargers ne when those Amatayas acted as judges, juries and excutioners ? He was pinned on a tax evasion charge on capital gains when he sold his telco to Temasik but there never was any capital gains tax to be paid in Thailand prior to that time because there was simply no such law then and how convenient it was to draw up some laws just to persecute and prosecute him.

Fact is : Thaksin didn't owned Shin Corp at the time of sale to Temasik.

Fact is : Shin Corp's sale also impacted holdings, among other parties, of the Crown Property Bureau (Bhumipol Inc.) that has investment in the Siam Commercial Bank that held Shin Corp stock.

Fact is : It was OK before for those Palace Insiders, The Amatayas to sell and round over all the loop holes and get themselves a healthy profit but ShinCorp's sale made Thaksin the target of accusations that he was selling an asset of national importance to a foreign entity, and hence selling out his nation.

Fact is : Kularb Kaew (Bhumipol Inc.'s nominee) and Cedar Holdings (Temasik's nominee) were holding companies used to acquire Shin Corp. Kularb Kaew was, in turn owned by a small group of Thai nominee shareholders, including Pong Sarasin, a son of the former Thai Prime Minister and the brother of Arsa Sarasin, King Bhumibol's principle private secretary. Other owners of Cedar are Temasek and Siam Commercial Bank, in which King Bhumibol's Crown Property Bureau has a controlling stake. Siam Commercial Bank also played a crucial role advising and providing financial support for the deal.


Fact is : What is good for the goose is not good for the gander. A very selective prosecution discerned from every angles conceivable and for the single purpose of taking down a person, Prime Minister or not. If they want to use what they charge Thaksin with, all those big businesses will have to be charged because that is the reality in Thai Businesses.


Fact is : This is a joke. :biggrin: Either Thaksin is a brilliant businesman or a dumb politician or vice versa, he forgot in Thailand, you are not supposed to be more famous than Bhumipol. Period.:o
 

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Flashback...

Ong-art Klampaibul, spokesman of the “technocratic and progressive” Democrat Party, commented on the sale of Shin Corporation to Temasek Holdings by “nationalist and populist” Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra: (Matichon, cache)

“เผด็จการซัดดัม แม้เป็นทรราชโหดเหี้ยม ก็ยังต่อสู้กับมหาอำนาจเพื่อแผ่นดินอิรัก แต่นายกฯทักษิณ ยังด้อยสำนึกกว่าซัดดัม เพียงเงิน 7.3 หมื่นล้านบาท เข้ากระเป๋าส่วนตัว นายกฯก็มอบสิทธิสภาพอธิปไตยทั้งเศรษฐกิจความมั่นคง และกรรมสิทธิ์การสื่อสารโทรคมนาคมให้ต่างชาติจนหมดสิ้น” โฆษกพรรคประชาธิปัตย์กล่าว

“Dictator Saddam, though a brutal tyrant, still fought the superpower for the Iraqi motherland. But PM Thaksin is less conscionable than Saddam. For 73 billion baht to his personal pocket, the PM gave both economic and security sovereignty and communication rights entirely to foreigners,” said the Democrat spokesman.

Of course, only a month earlier, Democrat Leader Abisit Vejjajiva implied that the prime minister was protecting Shin Corp by keeping foreigners out of the telecoms sector (which obviously didn’t have national security dimensions at the time). So he was probably worse than Bush back then. Or something.



When it suit them, when it suit them, hahaha...
 
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