Any Gout sufferers ; do post your experiences here ..

[yahoo55]

Not sure how accurate this NUS study is, but apparently soy beans, tofu, legumes, nuts and seeds are ok to eat.


http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/gout-sufferers-can-eat/1829418.html

Gout sufferers can eat soy, legumes: NUS study

Posted 06 May 2015 23:31


SINGAPORE: People who suffer from gout are often told to avoid certain high-protein foods, but a new study by the National University of Singapore (NUS) found that it is okay for gout sufferers to eat soy products and legumes – such as peas and beans.

Gout is caused by too much uric acid in the blood. Eating foods high in a substance called purine raises uric acid levels, and in turn, the risk of gout. These foods include poultry, shellfish and – until recently – soy products and legumes.

The NUS study examined the diets of about 63,000 Chinese adults in Singapore above the age of 40. It found that eating soy products like tofu did not increase uric acid levels. And contrary to popular belief, there is no harm in eating plant-based proteins.

NUS said this study is significant as there is a lot of misinformation about high purine foods. It hopes to clarify the true relationship between diet and gout.

"We can now tell our patients or people with high uric acid levels that there is no need to control or restrict the intake of soy food, legumes, nuts and seeds products,” said Dr Teng Gim Gee, Senior Consultant, Division of Rheumatology at the National University Hospital. “In addition, we would still emphasise that meat intake should be reduced because we have also shown, like other studies, that meat intake does increase the risk of gout.”

 

[Cerebral]

http://hubpages.com/health/how-to-cure-gout-with-green-papaya-and-tea-leave

boil green papaya with skin and seed off then add green tea (organic).....after 6 to 10 cups in 3 days my gout was reduced to almost none. Once in 1 month I take 2 to 3 cups. Now after 8 years, I can drink bear and eat nuts and sea food...no more gout!

I am 60.

Ok. Will try it. How's the taste????

 

[yahoo55]

Boiling papaya with green tea shouldn't taste bad I think, worth giving it a try.

 

[Cerebral]

Correct. But during an attack, Allurpurinol is a No. It will worsen the condition. Must take chochicine.

Paracetamol is also another NO during an attack.

I have been on allurpurinol for years. So far i just pop a NSAID when an attk. That said Allurpurinol should not be taken during an attk

 

[pap_doggy]

What's the difference between a vegetable and an animal?

One, plant life is meant for food. Animals as food is not the wisest thing for human substinance.

Two, one has no heart, no organs, no blood. An animal is like a human...with a heart, organs and a bloody creature. The blood of an animal is a very toxic. It is one of the leading reason why we should not take animal products as disease and sickness spreads from being contaminated.

Three, plants are living food. Vegetables and fruits clean and maintain the system. Blood and fats clog up the human body. This hastens death and aging.

Fourth, vegetarians tend to be healthier and therefore live longer.

Need I say more?

Completely baseless. Both animals and plants are meant to be food. Applicable for man, animals and plants, all. Some animals can only take other animals for food, some only plants, some both.

Silly religions and faiths are intoxicating brains with ideas. Basic in-born instincts tells people more correctly what food their bodies needs for survival.

 

[pap_doggy]

Acid crystals in human bodies can migrate from place A to B to C especially when you try to remove it. They dissolve (incompletely always) in some heat like hot bath tub and sauna and steam bath and SPA. Also displaced or dispersed by massage. But if acid level in blood and body fluid level is high it still crystallize to large crystal sizes, the more acidic is blood the larger their sizes. The sizes of crystals upon meeting alkaline substance will begin to reduce in size aka MELTING-OFF. When it reached skin it is allergic red hot rashes.

When crystals sizes are sufficiently smaller than blood cells, and reached a kidney in good healthy order (not NKF kidney failure), plus your body has sufficient WATER, you will pee out the acid inside urine. This is why it is called uric acid because it is found essentially only in blood and urine.


Uric Acid can cause so much red-hot pain and irritation and allergic reaction because their crystals are sharp needles!

Crystal sizes grows longer and thicker into bigger needles as blood acid level increased

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/p...graph-of-high-res-stock-photography/128589361

That crystal marked 'D' in above is not yet needle shaped but still both ends SHARP.



In this image you will see needle shape crystal larger than blood cells, this way it is LOCKED within body can not get out via kidney (pee),

needle sharp crystal embedded within body tissue:

 

[pap_doggy]

Vegetarians are very very BAD cases of Gouts, they eat beans instead of meat. Their joints all damaged badly by gout crystals.

 

[adultstem]

Completely baseless. Both animals and plants are meant to be food. Applicable for man, animals and plants, all. Some animals can only take other animals for food, some only plants, some both.

Silly religions and faiths are intoxicating brains with ideas. Basic in-born instincts tells people more correctly what food their bodies needs for survival.

Yes meat eating animals will eat other animals - meat eating or not. They were made that way. Humans were not made to eat animals but to live on a fruit and plant based diet.

Lets first take a look a the teeth structure of a meat eater vs plant eating animals. Meat eaters like the tiger or dog, have big canines for tearing into flesh. A goat or cow has sets of teeth made for chewing and grinding.

Man likewise has flat molars made for grinding and chewing. Our teeth were not made like the lions or leopards who do not chew their food. They can't chew, they just tear and swallow!

Then lets look at the intestinal tract of both animals - meat eating and plant based ones. Dogs and cats have very short intestines. Same goes for the lions, cheetahs, tigers etc.

Plant based animals have tracts that are many times the length of any meating eating animals. Why? They have to extract the many nutrients and minerals from the plants consumed.

Man too have long intestinal tracts. They first have to chew their food. Then slowly digest and extract the nutrients. Meat consumed by man are very toxic as they stay in the intestines far too long. Having long intestinal tracts like goats and cows who very wisely do not eat meat, we humans who indulge in meat eating with gusto end up with all kinds of illnesses - heart disease, cancers, diabetes, pain, mad-cow disease, SARS, Ebola virus etc

Read more...

How humans are not physically created to eat meat
http://www.celestialhealing.net/physicalveg3.htm

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathy-freston/shattering-the-meat-myth_b_214390.html

Carnivores vs. Herbivores
http://www.waoy.org/26.htm

 

[Cerebral]

Yes meat eating animals will eat other animals - meat eating or not. They were made that way. Humans were not made to eat animals but to live on a fruit and plant based diet.

Lets first take a look a the teeth structure of a meat eater vs plant eating animals. Meat eaters like the tiger or dog, have big canines for tearing into flesh. A goat or cow has sets of teeth made for chewing and grinding.

Man likewise has flat molars made for grinding and chewing. Our teeth were not made like the lions or leopards who do not chew their food. They can't chew, they just tear and swallow!

Then lets look at the intestinal tract of both animals - meat eating and plant based ones. Dogs and cats have very short intestines. Same goes for the lions, cheetahs, tigers etc.

Plant based animals have tracts that are many times the length of any meating eating animals. Why? They have to extract the many nutrients and minerals from the plants consumed.

Man too have long intestinal tracts. They first have to chew their food. Then slowly digest and extract the nutrients. Meat consumed by man are very toxic as they stay in the intestines far too long. Having long intestinal tracts like goats and cows who very wisely do not eat meat, we humans who indulge in meat eating with gusto end up with all kinds of illnesses - heart disease, cancers, diabetes, pain, mad-cow disease, SARS, Ebola virus etc

Read more...

How humans are not physically created to eat meat
http://www.celestialhealing.net/physicalveg3.htm

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathy-freston/shattering-the-meat-myth_b_214390.html

Carnivores vs. Herbivores
http://www.waoy.org/26.htm

Dont we have incisors and canine? Our intestinal tract is meant for plants and animal and hence the length. We are omivorous. If we are pure plant eaters, i think we need longer intestines and 4 stomachs because plants have very low calories

By the way, most of the dieseases you have stated has nothing to do with meat eating, e.g. diabetes, mad cow diesease, sars, ebola, etc.. it is quite ignorant to clasify these as meat eating diesease. They are cause by sick animals and farmers trying to make a quick buck.

 

[adultstem]

Dont we have incisors and canine? Our intestinal tract is meant for plants and animal and hence the length. We are omivorous. If we are pure plant eaters, i think we need longer intestines and 4 stomachs because plants have very low calories

By the way, most of the dieseases you have stated has nothing to do with meat eating, e.g. diabetes, mad cow diesease, sars, ebola, etc.. it is quite ignorant to clasify these as meat eating diesease. They are cause by sick animals and farmers trying to make a quick buck.

Yes we have incisors and canine. But are those the same as dogs/snakes/tigers/lions? Beasts use them to tear open the flesh of their victims. We use molars to chew once the canine has taken a bite into an apple or pear. Do meat eating animals have molars? We are basically herbivores with long intestines just like the goats and horses.

Have you heard of too much fats is cause for diabetes? Mad cow disease comes from which animal? Sars? Ebola? From vegetables? I rest my case.

 

[Cerebral]

Yes we have incisors and canine. But are those the same as dogs/snakes/tigers/lions? Beasts use them to tear open the flesh of their victims. We use molars to chew once the canine has taken a bite into an apple or pear. Do meat eating animals have molars? We are basically herbivores with long intestines just like the goats and horses.

Have you heard of too much fats is cause for diabetes? Mad cow disease comes from which animal? Sars? Ebola? From vegetables? I rest my case.

You are digressing. Mad Cow, SARS and Ebola are caused by sick animals with the virus, quite different from your argument.

Fats are caused by over consumption and not because of meat eating. It can happen to vegetarians just the same. Was wondering if you have seen a fat vegetarian or a vegetarian suffering from diabetes?

As for your teeth argument, we are omnivores, meaning hybrid eaters. Do not keep comparing to carnivores.

 

[adultstem]

You are digressing. Mad Cow, SARS and Ebola are caused by sick animals with the virus, quite different from your argument.

Fats are caused by over consumption and not because of meat eating. It can happen to vegetarians just the same. Was wondering if you have seen a fat vegetarian or a vegetarian suffering from diabetes?

As for your teeth argument, we are omnivores, meaning hybrid eaters. Do not keep comparing to carnivores.

No I am not degressing. I do not get Mad Cow, SARS and Ebola from consuming plant based food. But if you consume flesh food which may be contaminated, you are putting yourself at risk of many diseases! The blood and fats of animals products are poison to the human body.

Our set of teeth is closer to herbivores than carnivores. Likewise our intestinal tract. Yes the human body is a wonderfully made machine able to take all kinds of rubbish. But one bad day it will break down with the non-stop deluge of toxins and poison in the system.

 

[Cerebral]

No I am not degressing. I do not get Mad Cow, SARS and Ebola from consuming plant based food. But if you consume flesh food which may be contaminated, you are putting yourself at risk of many diseases! The blood and fats of animals products are poison to the human body.

Our set of teeth is closer to herbivores than carnivores. Likewise our intestinal tract. Yes the human body is a wonderfully made machine able to take all kinds of rubbish. But one bad day it will break down with the non-stop deluge of toxins and poison in the system.

You know what, since you are so set on your belief, good for you... clap clap...

 

[eatshitndie]

Our set of teeth is closer to herbivores than carnivores. Likewise our intestinal tract. Yes the human body is a wonderfully made machine able to take all kinds of rubbish. But one bad day it will break down with the non-stop deluge of toxins and poison in the system.

it's evolution. humans are not natural herbivores. even so called "natural" herbivores evolve over eons to reach their present stage. it involves adaptation to the environment and availability of food sources for species survival. modern day chinese have longer intestines and longer lower torsos because their early ancestors adapted to gathering plants and farming grain on fertile plains much earlier than europeans for example. while africans and europeans were still hunting and gathering, early chinese hominids were settling down in arable lands in asia from their nomadic days following and stalking elk and other migrating herds across the continent and finding easy food in seeds and grains, and regrowing them on the same alluvial patches that had rivers flowing through and warmer climates. similar to the nile delta in egypt, early north africans settled into farming and building settlements and eventually civilization. all hominids started off carnivorous, and for purposes of survival, evolved to omnivores. bears and wild hogs are examples of omnivores which share similar early survival traits of hominids. in fact with much growing evidence, early humans in small bands before they ventured out of africa were more scavengers than pure hunters like apex predators such as large cats. as scavengers, they were breaking bones and feeding on marrow of prey whose carcasses were cleanly devoured by cats, hyenas, jackals, vultures in that order. the marrow, rich in fat and nutrients, contributed to the rapid growth in brain size and cranial capacity of hominids. that desperation of scavenging bones and marrow led to the rise of humans, as intelligence via larger brains would one day out-wit, out-compete, and out-class all other animals. where apex predators were not too dominating nor numerous, for example in the americas where the largest cat was the cougar and largest omnivore predator the bear, humans were able to hunt bisons and mammoths for meat, fur, hide, and bones successfully. since there were so much of such herd for hunting before europeans showed up, there was no desperation and necessity for natives to settle down to farm. gathering of roots, herbs and berries were supplemental to their primary food source which was meat. there are whole scientific books written on these.

 

[scroobal]

These kinds of arguments are similar to those that you see in religious and faith based organisation. Man is not the only omnivore, there are other animals. The beauty of living things are instinct to survive and therefore adapt and therefore they progress. There are people who are vegetarians and vegans and like some followers of religion follow their faith and beliefs without resorting to this kind of selective arguments. The majority of mankind eat plants, fruits and meat. They have made the World a better place. There is a minority that are obese, will eat anything in excess, and basically ruin their health and end with illness of varying sorts. Do not look to them as examples for the rest of the World.

If you come out with argument based on molars you are not very bright and basically kidding yourself. Surely you do not know science or understand it. You would not be adding value to mankind and its progress.

There are people that do not eat meat because they will not tolerate cruelty to animals but are happy to depend on those that eat meat to go thru life. And the majority do eat meat. So where do you draw the line?

Lets not go to you conveniently bringing out SARs, Ebola etc to make your case. Now we are dealing with dishonestly.

Yes we have incisors and canine. But are those the same as dogs/snakes/tigers/lions? Beasts use them to tear open the flesh of their victims. We use molars to chew once the canine has taken a bite into an apple or pear. Do meat eating animals have molars? We are basically herbivores with long intestines just like the goats and horses.

Have you heard of too much fats is cause for diabetes? Mad cow disease comes from which animal? Sars? Ebola? From vegetables? I rest my case.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

These kinds of arguments are similar to those that you see in religious and faith based organisation. Man is not the only omnivore, there are other animals. The beauty of living things are instinct to survive and therefore adapt and therefore they progress. There are people who are vegetarians and vegans and like some followers of religion follow their faith and beliefs without resorting to this kind of selective arguments. The majority of mankind eat plants, fruits and meat. They have made the World a better place. There is a minority that are obese, will eat anything in excess, and basically ruin their health and end with illness of varying sorts. Do not look to them as examples for the rest of the World.

If you come out with argument based on molars you are not very bright and basically kidding yourself. Surely you do not know science or understand it. You would not be adding value to mankind and its progress.

There are people that do not eat meat because they will not tolerate cruelty to animals but are happy to depend on those that eat meat to go thru life. And the majority do eat meat. So where do you draw the line?

Lets not go to you conveniently bringing out SARs, Ebola etc to make your case. Now we are dealing with dishonestly.

stfu nigger with your bullshit. Now eat shits ok piggy.

 

[adultstem]

You know what, since you are so set on your belief, good for you... clap clap...

Bro, you please be a hybrid machine and continue to pollute your body with poison and toxins all day long. Just do not bring others into your set beliefs and put the blame on others when you end up with kidney failure and strokes or worse... premature death!

I have no agenda other than to help people stay healthy and wise. May you be wise and stop killing your body with rubbish!

 

[adultstem]

If you come out with argument based on molars you are not very bright and basically kidding yourself. Surely you do not know science or understand it. You would not be adding value to mankind and its progress.

There are people that do not eat meat because they will not tolerate cruelty to animals but are happy to depend on those that eat meat to go thru life. And the majority do eat meat. So where do you draw the line?

Lets not go to you conveniently bringing out SARs, Ebola etc to make your case. Now we are dealing with dishonestly.

Bro scroobal, if you have been following the exchanges, I stated first... our sets of teeth. Second, intestinal tract. Ok here is the next one, cruelty to animals. Happy?

 

[Cerebral]

Bro, you please be a hybrid machine and continue to pollute your body with poison and toxins all day long. Just do not bring others into your set beliefs and put the blame on others when you end up with kidney failure or strokes or worse... early death!

I have no agenda other than to help people stay healthy and wise.

Thank you for your concern. I was merely trying to show you the fallacies of your thinking. While i respect your lifestyle, i was just trying to point out that your assumptions are wrong. No malice.

 

[tonychat]

Thank you for your concern. I was merely trying to show you the fallacies of your thinking. While i respect your lifestyle, i was just trying to point out that your assumptions are wrong. No malice.

what makes you think that your assumption is correct?