Air Asia flight bound for Singapore lost contact with air traffic

[Raibura]

Re: Sinkapore wanna up Indons on Air Asia crash

because sg50 and pap60.

p(sg50 < x < pap60) = ?

 

[laksaboy]

Uncensored video of Airasia corpse. Black bra and panties?


[video=youtube;LGTTF4Z8Ic4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGTTF4Z8Ic4[/video]

 

[sense]

Airasia Tragedy predicted in a China forum on 15 Dec 2014!

Chinese forum: http://bbs.tianya.cn/post-worldlook-1339619-1.shtml

 

[LEGEND]

Uncensored video of Airasia corpse. Black bra and panties?

Indonesian television showed a half-naked body of a man whose shirt partially covered his head.

 

[sense]

Re: Airasia Tragedy predicted in a China forum on 15 Dec 2014!

Posting 1 (15 Dec 2014)
国际大黑手把马航MH370和马航MH17劫持和击落后，作为世界第六大航空公司的马航基本垮了，处于要死不活的状态
现在，大黑手又把目标锁定在亚航，一如既往，必须搞垮亚航，因为亚航也属于马来西亚
鉴于黑手的势力过于强大，心肠过于狠毒，建议出行的中国旅客，远离亚航，别成为另一个MH370的牺牲品
Google Translate: International Black Hand and the Malaysia Airlines MH370 Malaysia Airlines MH17 after the hijacking and shot down, as the world's sixth-largest airline Ma Hangji this collapse, in a lethargic state
Now, the big black hand again targeted in AirAsia, as always, must ruin AirAsia, AirAsia also belongs to Malaysia because
Given Blackhand forces too powerful, too vicious heart, suggested that the Chinese passenger travel, away from AirAsia, do not become a victim of another MH370


Posting 2 (15 Dec 2014)
本来是高高兴兴出去旅游或者经商工作学习的，不小心坐了马航或者亚航，成为靶子，亏死了
大家小心点
Google Translate:Could have been happy to travel or work and study business, careless sat MAS or AirAsia, became a target, dead loss
Be careful everyone

Posting 3 (15 Dec 2014)
大家要把这个消息及时通知自己的亲友
Google Translate: We want this message promptly notify their relatives and friends

 

[virus]

must be kopisai died

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

[video=youtube_share;3O5CqOk9ZiY]http://youtu.be/3O5CqOk9ZiY[/video]

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

[video=youtube_share;7-EFYNRJW9w]http://youtu.be/7-EFYNRJW9w[/video]

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

[video=youtube_share;b9WbMs7811Q]http://youtu.be/b9WbMs7811Q[/video]

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

[video=youtube_share;92fFvaJJ2OQ]http://youtu.be/92fFvaJJ2OQ[/video]

 

[looneytan]

must be kopisai died

could it be tonychat ....

no, no, not possible, that fuck twit couldn't afford to travel by air for sure

 

[syed putra]

Re: Sinkapore wanna up Indons on Air Asia crash

Maybe spore air traffic controller spoke to gf on board flight.

 

[winnipegjets]

Re: Sinkapore wanna up Indons on Air Asia crash

It looks like the Spore ATC just pick a number to contradict the Indons.

The Indons were managing the flight at the time of disappearance ...why sinkapore ATC think they know better on the time of disappearance?

 

[vtran2684]

Re: Sinkapore wanna up Indons on Air Asia crash

this shows that some muther farkers were so engrossed in their candy crush, they lost a valuable 7 mins. this is what happen when croynism is involved and you have your bros taking cushy job so cushy he has no time for real work

can tell the time. They need to good back to school.

 

[Revenge]

Over 40 bodies recovered at sea as debris pulled from possible AirAsia crash site

PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 30 December, 2014, 10:12am
UPDATED : Tuesday, 30 December, 2014, 9:00pm

Reuters, AFP

Pictures taken in the search for AirAsia flight QZ8501 appear to show debris floating in the water. Photo: AFP

More than 40 bodies have been recovered from the sea near to where AirAsia flight QZ8501 went missing, according to the Indonesian navy, which is helping lead the search.

An Indonesian warship had recovered 40 “and the number is growing”, navy spokesman Manahan Simorangkir said.

Officials coming off a search flight this afternoon said they had spotted several bodies, which were taken to a navy ship, while a spotter plane crew said they had seen a "shadow" on the seabed believed to be the missing plane.

The reported "shadow" marks where the search will be concentrated, National Search and Rescue Agency chief Bambang Soelistyo said, referring to the area about 160 kilometres southwest of the town of Pangkalan Bun in Central Kalimantan on Borneo island. The town has the nearest airstrip to the search zone.

Debris floating on the Java Sea's surface have also been photographed. A navy spokesman said a plane door and oxygen tanks had been recovered and taken away by helicopter for tests.

Relatives of the 162 people missing on the plane hugged each other and burst into tears in Surabaya, where the plane departed from on Sunday, as they watched footage of at least one body on a television feed of Soelistyo’s press conference in Jakarta.

The corpses did not have life jackets on, National Search and Rescue Director SB Supriyadi told reporters in the nearest town, Pangkalan Bun.

Some fainted or became hysterical. Two distraught family members had to be carried out on stretchers from the room where they had been waiting for news in Surabaya.

“My heart will be totally crushed if it’s true. I will lose a son,” said 60-year-old Dwijanto.

Following news of the discovery AirAsia chief executive Tony Fernandes tweeted: "Words cannot express how sorry I am."

Items resembling an emergency slide, a plane door and lifejackets were earlier spotted floating in the sea, Indonesian authorities said.

“We spotted about 10 big objects and many more small white-coloured objects which we could not photograph,” Indonesian air force official Agus Dwi Putranto told a press conference. “The position is 10 kilometres from the location the plane was last captured by radar,” he said.

He displayed 10 photos of objects resembling a plane door, an emergency slide, and a square box-like object.

“It is not really clear... it could be the wall of the plane or the door of the plane,” he said.

The Jawa Post reported that a body in a white T-shirt and orange life jacket had been identified, while Kompas TV quoted the co-pilot of a spotter aircraft as saying that floating objects resembled humans, suitcases and aircraft debris.

Indonesia National Search and Rescue spokesman Yusuf Latif said the crew of an Indonesian military aircraft had seen white, red and black objects about 105 miles south of Pangkalan Bun.

He said the agency had dispatched at least one helicopter to pick up the debris. The items will be taken to the search and rescue coordination post on Belitung Island.

“This is the most significant finding, but we cannot confirm anything until the investigation is completed,” he said.

Djoko Murjatmodjo, acting director general of air transportation at the transportation ministry, said: “For the time being it can be confirmed that it’s the AirAsia plane and the transport minister will depart soon to Pangkalan Bun [on the island of Borneo].

Relatives of the missing are distraught after news breaks that the plane has been found. Photo: AFP

Family members of passengers onboard AirAsia flight QZ8501, react to news of floating debris spotted in the search area. Photo: AFP

“Based on the observation by search and rescue personnel, significant things have been found such as a passenger door and cargo door. It’s in the sea, 100 miles southwest of Pangkalan Bun."

The discovery of the wreckage came as the search for the flight entered its third day.

Earlier it was revealed that shortly before the flight vanished from radar screens the pilots had requested permission to climb to a much higher altitude to avoid bad weather, but that permission was not immediately granted due to air congestion above.

The AirAsia pilots had been worried about the weather and had sought permission to fly at 11,600 metres instead of 9,800 metres. Air traffic control could not immediately give permission as six other airliners were crowding the airspace.

Minutes later, Singapore air traffic controllers - who were relayed the altitude request by Indonesian officials - said QZ8501 could climb, but only to a height of 10,400 metres due to other aircraft in the vicinity. “But when we informed the pilot of the approval at 6.14 am, we received no reply,” AirNav official Wisnu Darjono said.

Four minutes later, the flight disappeared from radar screens.

Western Indonesia Air Force operation commander Air Vice Marshal Agus Dwi Putranto (L) briefs crews during search for missing AirAsia flight QZ8501, on December 30, 2014. Photo: AFP

Sunu Widiatmoko (R), president of AirAsia's Indonesian subsidiary, Indonesia-AirAsia, answers questions during a press conference at Juanda International Airport in Surabaya. Photo: AFP

Countries around Asia today stepped up the search for the plane carrying 162 people that is presumed to have crashed in shallow waters off the Indonesian coast, with the United States also sending a warship to help find the missing jet.

Soelistyo, head of Indonesia’s search and rescue agency, told local television that the search area between the islands of Sumatra and Borneo was expanded.

The Airbus A320-200 operated by Indonesia AirAsia lost radar contact in poor weather on Sunday morning during a flight from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore. The plane could be at the bottom of the sea, Soelistyo said yesterday.

Around 30 ships and 21 aircraft from Indonesia, Australia, Malaysia, Singapore and South Korea were tipped to search around 10,000 square nautical miles today, officials said.

They said the sea was only 50 to 100 metres deep, which would be a help in finding the plane.

Members of an Indonesian search and rescue team are ferried out to a ship to conduct search operations for QZ8501. Photo: AFP

The US military is sending the USS Sampson missile destroyer (above) to aid in the search. Photo: AFP

What happened to Flight QZ8501, which had sought permission from Indonesian air traffic control to ascend to avoid clouds, is still a mystery.

Online discussions among pilots have centred on unconfirmed secondary radar data from Malaysia that suggested the aircraft was climbing at a speed of 353 knots, about 100 knots too slow in poor weather, and that it might have stalled.

There were seven crew members and 155 passengers, mostly Indonesians except for three South Koreans, a Briton, a Malaysian and a Singaporean. The co-pilot was French.

The Singapore national is a two-year-old girl who was travelling with her British-born father. She was among 17 children on the flight.

The US military said the USS Sampson, a guided missile destroyer, would be on the scene later today.

The US Defence Department said assistance to Indonesia “could include some air, surface and sub-surface detection capabilities”. “We stand ready to assist in any way possible,” Pentagon spokesman Mark Wright said.

China’s Defence Ministry said it had sent a warship to the South China Sea and planes “have begun preparatory work” for search operations.

Searchers had picked up an emergency locator signal off the south of Borneo, but no subsequent signal was found.

This morning, at a crisis centre at the airport in Surabaya, where the plane took off on Sunday, anger had grown among about 100 relatives.

“We only need clear information every hour on where they [search teams] are going,” said Franky Chandra, who has a sibling and three friends on the flight.

“We’ve been here for two days but the information is unclear. That’s all we need.”

The plane, whose engines were made by CFM International, co-owned by General Electric and Safran of France, lacked real-time engine diagnostics or monitoring, a GE spokesman said. Such systems are mainly used on long-haul flights and can provide clues to airlines and investigators when things go wrong.

The plane’s disappearance comes at a sensitive time for Jakarta’s aviation authorities, as they strive to improve the country’s safety reputation to match its status as one of the airline industry’s fastest growing markets.

It also appears to be a third air disaster involving a Malaysian-affiliated carrier in less than a year, further denting confidence in that country’s aviation industry and spooking air travellers across the region.

Indonesia AirAsia is 49 per cent owned by Malaysia-based budget carrier AirAsia.

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 went missing on March 8 on a trip from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 passengers and crew and has not been found. On July 17, the same airline’s Flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine, killing all 298 people on board.

US law enforcement and security officials said passenger and crew lists were being closely examined but so far nothing significant had turned up and that the incident was still regarded as an unexplained accident.

The next of kin of passengers on the AirAsia flight QZ8501 huddle in prayer at the Surabaya airport, where they have gathered to wait for news. Photo: AP

Pilots and aviation experts said thunderstorms, and requests to gain altitude to avoid them, were not unusual in that area.

“The airplane’s performance is directly related to the temperature outside and increasing altitude can lead to freezing of the static radar, giving pilots an erroneous radar reading,” said a Qantas Airways pilot with 25 years’ experience flying in the region.

The resulting danger is that pilots take incorrect action to control the aircraft, said the pilot, who requested anonymity.

The Indonesian pilot was experienced and the plane last underwent maintenance in mid-November, the airline said.

The AirAsia group, including affiliates in Thailand, the Philippines and India, had not suffered a crash since its Malaysian budget operations began in 2002.

 

[Revenge]

2014 was a deadly year for aviation, but safety record is improving

Malaysian catastrophes got the headlines - and there were weather-related incidents - but there were also a record low number of crashes

PUBLISHED : Monday, 29 December, 2014, 11:20pm
UPDATED : Tuesday, 30 December, 2014, 9:03am

Reuters in London

Even before an Indonesia AirAsia Airbus 320 jet with 162 people on board went missing in bad weather on Sunday between the Indonesian city of Surabaya and Singapore, 762 people had lost their lives in seven fatal accidents this year.

The loss of Indonesia AirAsia Flight QZ8501 would cap one of the deadliest years in civil aviation for almost a decade - yet experts say the industry's underlying safety record is improving.

The statistics underscore a year of tragic contrasts dominated by two Malaysian catastrophes and a handful of weather-related incidents, yet a record-low number of crashes.

Even before an Indonesia AirAsia Airbus 320 jet with 162 people on board went missing in bad weather on Sunday between the Indonesian city of Surabaya and Singapore, 762 people had lost their lives in seven fatal accidents this year.

If the Indonesian-registered aircraft is confirmed to have crashed killing all on board, the accident would make 2014 the worst year for loss of life in civil aviation since 2005, when 1,014 people were killed in passenger accidents, according to the Netherlands-based Aviation Safety Network.

But the number of fatal accidents in 2014 would stand at only eight, if Flight QZ8501 is included, compared with 24 in 2005. This would be the lowest in memory, reflecting the peculiar nature of this year's disasters.

"Remarkably, 2014 has the lowest number for passenger flight accidents in modern aviation history," said Harro Ranter, founder and director of Aviation Safety Network, which runs an independent database.

A combined total of 537 people were on board Malaysian Airlines' Flight MH370, which went missing on March 8 and has not been found, and Flight MH17 which was shot down over Ukraine on July 17. More than 160 people lost their lives in two bad weather incidents in July. Forty-eight died when a Transasia Airways aircraft tried to land in Taiwan and 116 when a Swiftair jet operated by Air Algerie crashed in northern Mali.

Airlines and manufacturers contend that aviation is the safest form of transport amid improvements in aircraft design, training and infrastructure.

The International Air Transport Association, which represents about 250 airlines, said earlier this month that 2014 was among the safest when measured against the volume of traffic. In 2009, according to IATA, there was one "hull loss" for every 1.5 million flights, which translates to 0.67 for every 1 million flights.

As of 30 September, the 2014 jet hull loss rate stood at 0.22 per million flights. The average rate for IATA members, which does not include most low-cost airlines, was 0.37 over the last five years, according to the Geneva-based organisation. Its figures only include Western-built jets.

However, safety authorities say accidents involving a loss of control, such as those that sometimes occur during severe weather, are nearly always catastrophic even though they are also rare.

Last year, only three per cent of accidents involved a loss of control during flight, but these accounted for 60 per cent of that year's fatalities, according to the UN International Civil Aviation Organisation.

The statistical reassurances will probably come as cold comfort for many Malaysians, who now must reckon with the fact that Malaysian-owned carriers have now been involved in the three worst air disasters of the year. That is an unlikely status for any country, much less Malaysia, population 30 million, and hardly a global aviation power.

It's tempting to look for a common thread to explain Malaysia's string of bad aviation luck. But prior to March, Malaysia's two major carriers had exemplary safety records, and there was nothing about them to lead an outside observer to believe that they would lose three jets in nine months.

Additional reporting by Bloomberg

 

[Revenge]

Re: It's really a bad idea to climb over the thunderstorm...AirAsia QZ8501



Despite tragedies this year, air travel is still safe

PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 30 December, 2014, 12:47am
UPDATED : Tuesday, 30 December, 2014, 8:53am

SCMP Editorial

If there are no survivors on the AirAsia Airbus 320 jet that was flying from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore, 2014 will have been the worst year for air travel since 2005. Photo: Bloomberg

Air safety standards have reached such heights that the possibility of a commercial flight not successfully landing on the runway is one in a billion. Probability is a purely intellectual pursuit, though, as the relatives and friends of the 162 people on board AirAsia flight QZ8501 only know too well. For them, statistics are meaningless; their emotions are running high with grief over the loss of loved ones. At such a fraught time, even a standard of 10 to the minus ninth is perhaps not good enough for some travellers.

The global record would not seem good, after all: If there are no survivors on the AirAsia Airbus 320 jet that was flying from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore, 2014 will have been the worst year for air travel since 2005. Asia has borne the brunt, with 537 people lost on two Malaysia Airlines flights - MH370 , which disappeared on March 8, and MH17, shot down by a missile over Ukraine on July 17. A Transasia Airways crash in Taiwan on July 23 claimed another 48 lives. There are more than 50,000 flights around the world each day, but such figures offer no comfort to those about to board an aircraft.

Plane manufacturers and airlines at times of tragedy are at pains to stress that air travel is the safest form of transport and that standards have never been so high. They are right - although hundreds of people died in fatal crashes this year, confirmation of deaths on the AirAsia jet would make it only the eighth plane to crash with fatalities. The 1,104 killed in 2005 were involved in 24 accidents. Safety is constantly being improved through better regulations, aircraft design, infrastructure and training.

The rarity of crashes leads to even higher standards, with every facet being poured over by investigators, manufacturers and industry regulators. It will be no different for the AirAsia jet, which vanished from radar screens 42 minutes into its flight. This is cold comfort for those affected, nor does it completely eliminate accidents, but over time, takes the apprehension and terror out of the next flight boarded.

 

[Revenge]

Re: It's really a bad idea to climb over the thunderstorm...AirAsia QZ8501


Unread emails helped save lives of 26 passengers who failed to catch missing AirAsia flight to Singapore

PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 30 December, 2014, 3:35am
UPDATED : Tuesday, 30 December, 2014, 3:35am

Agencies in Jakarta and Kuala Lumpur

Former beauty queen Anggi Mahesti (left) and her family missed the flight after ignoring an email about its earlier departure. Photo: Java Post

Unread emails, missed phone calls, an ailing grandfather - such were the mundane factors that may have saved the lives of passengers who missed catching Flight QZ8501 before it disappeared en route to Singapore.

A passenger manifest showed that 26 people with tickets for the ill-fated flight did not board the AirAsia aircraft, which took off on Sunday from the central Indonesian city of Surabaya.

Former beauty queen Anggi Mahesti was part of a family group of 10 who missed the plane because they were not aware of a change in the departure time.

"It was already the final call when my husband reached the airport in the first car with our bags," Mahesti, a Miss Indonesia runner-up in 2008, said yesterday in Surabaya. "Most of the family were in another car that arrived 15 minutes later. The plane left without us."

Her husband Ari Putro Cahyono, who runs a motorcycle dealership, failed to open an email sent by AirAsia on December 15 telling them the flight's departure had been brought forward by two hours to a 5.35am, and also missed a phone call from the airline earlier this month, Mahesti said. He was negotiating refunds with AirAsia when told the plane was missing.

The group of six adults and four children had been heading to Singapore to celebrate New Year. Cahyono's brother-in-law Joedhey Ribawantodwi, his wife Christianawati and their three children were joining the trip.

Christianawati, 36, said her family also missed the emails and phone calls. "I was shocked to hear about [the flight's disappearance]. Maybe it is all God's plan that my family and I were not on the flight. It was a blessing in disguise," Christianawati said.

"I hope that the plane is found and everyone is safe."

Christopher Incha Prasetya, aged 10, cried when his parents cancelled a four-day trip to Singapore because his grandfather was ill.

A day later, he had to be convinced the plane that would have flown them there was missing.

"The kids were still on holidays and Christopher was very upset when we said that we couldn't go after all," his mother, Inge Goreti Ferdiningsih, 37, from Surabaya said. "When we told him the plane was missing, he didn't believe us until we showed him the tickets."

Ferdiningsih, an accountant, said she and her businessman husband, Chandra Susanto, had paid more than 8 million rupiah (about US$645) for five return fares for their family, which included seven-year-old daughter Nadine and son Felix, five.

They had booked the trip in June and had planned to spend three nights on the Singapore resort island of Sentosa, with the children keen to visit a water theme park. But with her father ill, Ferdiningsih said they decided to call off the holiday the day before the flight.

Agence France-Presse and Bloomberg

 

[Revenge]

Relatives overwhelmed as search recovers remains near where missing AirAsia plane is thought to have crashed

Grieving relatives break down as debris from AirAsia plane is discovered off Borneo island

PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 31 December, 2014, 1:44am
UPDATED : Wednesday, 31 December, 2014, 1:44am

Agencies in Pangkalan Bunand Jakarta

Relatives of passengers aboard missing AirAsia flight QZ8501 break down after watching news footage in Surabaya of an unidentified body floating in the Java Sea. Photo: AFP

Search crews will today step up their hunt for the data recorders of doomed AirAsia flight QZ8501 as wreckage and bodies were spotted off Indonesia.

The grim discoveries prompted raw scenes of emotion from sobbing relatives of the 162 people aboard. At least two family members fainted after watching television footage of a body floating in the sea.

Indonesian President Joko Widodo last night praised the search teams and said three warships were on their way to the suspected crash location.

"[Today] there will be a massive search by the ships and helicopters," he said after flying over the area. The president added: "We all pray for the families to be given fortitude and strength to face this tragedy".

AirAsia boss Tony Fernandes also rushed to Surabaya, where relatives have gathered

"It's an experience I never dreamt of happening and it's probably an airline CEO's worst nightmare," he said. Referring to the passengers' loved ones, he added: "Words can't express what they are going through."

Members of the Indonesian air force keep a look out during search and rescue operations for the missing AirAsia flight QZ8501. Photo: AFP

A Chinese frigate was yesterday on its way to help the search, while Singapore said it was sending two underwater beacon detectors to try to detect pings from the voice and data recorders.

Australia, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea and the US have also joined the search.

The Airbus A320-200 disappeared en route from Indonesia's second-largest city Surabaya to Singapore during a storm early on Sunday. It is now believed to have crashed in the Java Sea southwest of the island of Borneo, with debris including an exit door, a blue suitcase and bodies retrieved from the area. Authorities confirmed the debris was from flight QZ8501.

Objects identified as belongings of AirAsia QZ8501. Photo: TNS

A military plane spotted a "shadow" on the seabed believed to be that of the missing jet, National Search and Rescue Agency chief Bambang Soelistyo said. Yesterday the search chief said three bodies had been recovered.

The plane disappeared after its pilot failed to get permission to fly higher to avoid bad weather because of heavy air traffic, officials said. Online discussion among pilots has centred on unconfirmed secondary radar data from Malaysia that suggested the aircraft was climbing at 353 knots, about 100 knots too slow, and that it might have stalled.

Agence France-Presse, Associated Press, Reuters, Bloomberg

 

[Animalize]

Uncensored video of Airasia corpse. Black bra and panties?


[video=youtube;LGTTF4Z8Ic4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGTTF4Z8Ic4[/video]