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From the crashes of the Air France AF447 (Airbus A330) and this recent AirAsia QZ8501 (Airbus A320), it seems to conclude that the AIRBUS planes are not well equipped to counter freak thunderstorm weathers.
AIRBUS should now conduct detailed analysis on why their above 2 particular models of planes are prone to mechanical and/or instrumental failures when encountered with severe weather whilst in flight. It is the due responsibility of AIRBUS to improvise corrective actions to further improve the safety of their above 2 plane models.
AIRBUS should now conduct detailed analysis on why their above 2 particular models of planes are prone to mechanical and/or instrumental failures when encountered with severe weather whilst in flight. It is the due responsibility of AIRBUS to improvise corrective actions to further improve the safety of their above 2 plane models.
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Grim discovery: After 3 days of intense search for AirAsia Flight QZ8501, debris and dead bodies
By Jethro Mullen, CNN
updated 6:08 AM EST, Tue December 30, 2014
CNN) -- [Breaking news update 6 a.m. ET]
Hospitals in the Indonesian city of Surabaya are being prepared to help house and identify bodies being recovered off the coast of Borneo
from a site where Indonesian officials think they've found debris from AirAsia Flight QZ8501, a search team official said.
[Full story]
Search zone where debris was found
Search zone where debris was foundSearch zone where debris was found
Family members of passengers onboard the missing AirAsia flight QZ8501 in visible distress after watching news reports of the search for
the airliner at Juanda International Airport in Surabaya.
Relatives at Juanda International Airport in Surabaya comfort each other after hearing officials say they're "95% sure" debris is from
missing AirAsia flight QZ8501.
Relatives gather at Juanda International Airport in Surabaya awaiting news of loved ones who among the 162 people onboard the missing
airliner.
This aerial view taken from an Indonesian search and rescue aircraft over the Java Sea shows floating debris spotted in the same area as
other items being investigated by Indonesian authorities as possible objects from missing AirAsia flight QZ8501 on December 30, 2014.
Dozens of planes and ships have been searching Indonesian waters for the missing AirAsia jet carrying 162 people that lost contact with
Indonesian air traffic control early Sunday.
An Indonesian search and rescue team prepares to search at sea on December 30 for the missing AirAsia Flight QZ8501 from Manggar on
East Belitung.
An Indonesian military airman looks out the window of an airplane during the search for missing AirAsia Flight QZ8501 over the waters of
Karimata Strait in Indonesia on December 29.
Indonesian army personnel read a map during a search operation over the waters of the Java Sea on December 29.
Members of Indonesia's Marine Police pray before a search operation for the missing jet on December 29.
Military personnel perform a search operation to the point where the jetliner lost contact.
Sunu Widyatmoko, CEO of Indonesia AirAsia, gives a press conference in Surabaya, Indonesia, announcing that the flight lost contact with
air traffic control.
Members of the Indonesian Regional Disaster Management Agency walk at a beach as they search for the missing plane.
Jiang Hui, whose relatives were on board Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which went missing on March 8, watches the news about the missing AirAsia flight at his house in Beijing.
An official from Indonesia's national search and rescue agency points to the position where AirAsia Flight QZ8501 went missing. Before communication was lost, a pilot asked to deviate from its planned route -- from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore -- because of bad weather, officials said.
The aircraft went missing as it flew over the Java Sea between the islands of Belitung and Borneo, according to Indonesian authorities, who are leading the search and rescue operations.
An airport official checks a map of Indonesia at the crisis center for the missing flight, set up by local authorities at Juanda International Airport.
Photos: Relatives distraught Photos: Relatives distraught
Watch this video
Search expands for missing AirAsia plane
Watch this video
New audio of Flight 8501 before takeoff
After three days of intense searching for AirAsia Flight QZ8501, Indonesian teams made the grim discovery Tuesday: debris and dozens of bodies in the waters off the island of Borneo.
The crew on a military aircraft spotted the shadow of an object that looked like a plane in the water, said Bambang Sulistyo, the head of Indonesia's search and rescue agency.
Further searching located floating objects believed to be the bodies of passengers, and then what appeared to be an emergency exit of the plane, Sulistyo told a news conference.
Officials sent other search teams racing to the area.
Media reports said at least 40 bodies have so far been recovered. Hospitals in the city of Surabaya were being prepared to help house and identify them.
The news dealt a heartbreaking blow to relatives of passengers who had been waiting anxiously for information at the airport in Surabaya, the Indonesian city where Flight 8501 began its journey Sunday with 162 people on board.
The plane was carrying 155 passengers and 7 crew members. The overwhelming majority of those on board were Indonesians. There were also citizens of Britain, France, Malaysia, Singapore and South Korea.
There were scenes of anguish as families watched a live news conference about the discovery of the debris and saw video of a helicopter lowering a diver down to what appeared to be a floating body.
Some people fainted and stretchers were taken into the room.
Family members burst into tears, dabbing their eyes as officials passed out tissues. Some sat with their eyes full of tears, hands covering their mouths, or heads buried in their hands. Others had phones jammed against their ears.
'Words cannot express how sorry I am'
"My heart is filled with sadness for all the families involved in QZ 8501," AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes tweeted. "On behalf of AirAsia my condolences to all. Words cannot express how sorry I am."
He said he was on his way to Surabaya.
Search and rescue teams are diverting all their resources to where the debris is located, authorities said. The area is about 10 kilometers (6 miles) from the aircraft's last known location over the Java Sea, off the coast of Indonesia's Central Kalimantan province on Borneo.
Divers and ships with sonar equipment are being sent to the site, where the depth of the sea at the site varies between 25 and 30 meters, Sulistyo said.
Ships, planes and helicopters have been scouring the sea for Flight 8501 since it went missing on its way to Singapore.
READ: How can a modern airliner vanish?
The Airbus A320-200 lost contact with air traffic control early Sunday shortly after the pilot requested permission to turn and climb to a higher altitude because of bad weather, according to Indonesian officials.
Unanswered questions
Authorities mounted a huge effort to find the aircraft, mapping out a search zone covering 156,000 square kilometers.
Questions remain unanswered about why Flight 8501 lost contact with air traffic control and what happened afterward.
Some experts have speculated that the aircraft might have experienced an aerodynamic stall because of a lack of speed or from flying at too sharp an angle to get enough lift.
Analysts have also suggested that the pilots might not have been getting information from onboard systems about the plane's position or that rain or hail from thunderstorms in the area could have damaged the engines.
The key to understanding what happened is likely to be contained in the aircraft's flight recorders.
"Until we get the black boxes, we won't know what's going on with the engines," Bill Savage, a former pilot with 30 years of experience, told CNN.
'It was to be his last vacation with his family'
Details have emerged about some of the people on board the plane.
They include Alain Oktavianus Siauw, whose fiance says she was on her way to the airport to pick him up when she heard the plane had gone missing.
Louise Sidharta said Siauw was supposed to be enjoying a family vacation before the two got married. "It was to be his last vacation with his family," she said.
Siauw's Facebook page says he lives in Malang, a province in Indonesia.
The disappearance of Flight 8501 also stirred painful memories of the families of people on board Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which dropped off radar over the South China Sea in March.
Nearly 10 months later, searchers are still combing remote reaches of the southern Indian Ocean for any trace of the Boeing 777 that had 239 people on board.
"The lack of ability to close things down emotionally is just exhausting," said Sarah Bajc told CNN on Monday night. Her partner, Philip Woods, was on board Flight 370.
When news broke that another plane had disappeared this week, Bajc said, "I just started to shake."
SEE VIDEO
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/30/world/asia/airasia-missing-plane/index.html?iid=HP_LN
Grim discovery: After 3 days of intense search for AirAsia Flight QZ8501, debris and dead bodies
By Jethro Mullen, CNN
updated 6:08 AM EST, Tue December 30, 2014
CNN) -- [Breaking news update 6 a.m. ET]
Hospitals in the Indonesian city of Surabaya are being prepared to help house and identify bodies being recovered off the coast of Borneo
from a site where Indonesian officials think they've found debris from AirAsia Flight QZ8501, a search team official said.
[Full story]
Search zone where debris was found
Search zone where debris was foundSearch zone where debris was found
Family members of passengers onboard the missing AirAsia flight QZ8501 in visible distress after watching news reports of the search for
the airliner at Juanda International Airport in Surabaya.
Relatives at Juanda International Airport in Surabaya comfort each other after hearing officials say they're "95% sure" debris is from
missing AirAsia flight QZ8501.
Relatives gather at Juanda International Airport in Surabaya awaiting news of loved ones who among the 162 people onboard the missing
airliner.
This aerial view taken from an Indonesian search and rescue aircraft over the Java Sea shows floating debris spotted in the same area as
other items being investigated by Indonesian authorities as possible objects from missing AirAsia flight QZ8501 on December 30, 2014.
Dozens of planes and ships have been searching Indonesian waters for the missing AirAsia jet carrying 162 people that lost contact with
Indonesian air traffic control early Sunday.
An Indonesian search and rescue team prepares to search at sea on December 30 for the missing AirAsia Flight QZ8501 from Manggar on
East Belitung.
An Indonesian military airman looks out the window of an airplane during the search for missing AirAsia Flight QZ8501 over the waters of
Karimata Strait in Indonesia on December 29.
Indonesian army personnel read a map during a search operation over the waters of the Java Sea on December 29.
Members of Indonesia's Marine Police pray before a search operation for the missing jet on December 29.
Military personnel perform a search operation to the point where the jetliner lost contact.
Sunu Widyatmoko, CEO of Indonesia AirAsia, gives a press conference in Surabaya, Indonesia, announcing that the flight lost contact with
air traffic control.
Members of the Indonesian Regional Disaster Management Agency walk at a beach as they search for the missing plane.
Jiang Hui, whose relatives were on board Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which went missing on March 8, watches the news about the missing AirAsia flight at his house in Beijing.
An official from Indonesia's national search and rescue agency points to the position where AirAsia Flight QZ8501 went missing. Before communication was lost, a pilot asked to deviate from its planned route -- from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore -- because of bad weather, officials said.
The aircraft went missing as it flew over the Java Sea between the islands of Belitung and Borneo, according to Indonesian authorities, who are leading the search and rescue operations.
An airport official checks a map of Indonesia at the crisis center for the missing flight, set up by local authorities at Juanda International Airport.
Photos: Relatives distraught Photos: Relatives distraught
Watch this video
Search expands for missing AirAsia plane
Watch this video
New audio of Flight 8501 before takeoff
After three days of intense searching for AirAsia Flight QZ8501, Indonesian teams made the grim discovery Tuesday: debris and dozens of bodies in the waters off the island of Borneo.
The crew on a military aircraft spotted the shadow of an object that looked like a plane in the water, said Bambang Sulistyo, the head of Indonesia's search and rescue agency.
Further searching located floating objects believed to be the bodies of passengers, and then what appeared to be an emergency exit of the plane, Sulistyo told a news conference.
Officials sent other search teams racing to the area.
Media reports said at least 40 bodies have so far been recovered. Hospitals in the city of Surabaya were being prepared to help house and identify them.
The news dealt a heartbreaking blow to relatives of passengers who had been waiting anxiously for information at the airport in Surabaya, the Indonesian city where Flight 8501 began its journey Sunday with 162 people on board.
The plane was carrying 155 passengers and 7 crew members. The overwhelming majority of those on board were Indonesians. There were also citizens of Britain, France, Malaysia, Singapore and South Korea.
There were scenes of anguish as families watched a live news conference about the discovery of the debris and saw video of a helicopter lowering a diver down to what appeared to be a floating body.
Some people fainted and stretchers were taken into the room.
Family members burst into tears, dabbing their eyes as officials passed out tissues. Some sat with their eyes full of tears, hands covering their mouths, or heads buried in their hands. Others had phones jammed against their ears.
'Words cannot express how sorry I am'
"My heart is filled with sadness for all the families involved in QZ 8501," AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes tweeted. "On behalf of AirAsia my condolences to all. Words cannot express how sorry I am."
He said he was on his way to Surabaya.
Search and rescue teams are diverting all their resources to where the debris is located, authorities said. The area is about 10 kilometers (6 miles) from the aircraft's last known location over the Java Sea, off the coast of Indonesia's Central Kalimantan province on Borneo.
Divers and ships with sonar equipment are being sent to the site, where the depth of the sea at the site varies between 25 and 30 meters, Sulistyo said.
Ships, planes and helicopters have been scouring the sea for Flight 8501 since it went missing on its way to Singapore.
READ: How can a modern airliner vanish?
The Airbus A320-200 lost contact with air traffic control early Sunday shortly after the pilot requested permission to turn and climb to a higher altitude because of bad weather, according to Indonesian officials.
Unanswered questions
Authorities mounted a huge effort to find the aircraft, mapping out a search zone covering 156,000 square kilometers.
Questions remain unanswered about why Flight 8501 lost contact with air traffic control and what happened afterward.
Some experts have speculated that the aircraft might have experienced an aerodynamic stall because of a lack of speed or from flying at too sharp an angle to get enough lift.
Analysts have also suggested that the pilots might not have been getting information from onboard systems about the plane's position or that rain or hail from thunderstorms in the area could have damaged the engines.
The key to understanding what happened is likely to be contained in the aircraft's flight recorders.
"Until we get the black boxes, we won't know what's going on with the engines," Bill Savage, a former pilot with 30 years of experience, told CNN.
'It was to be his last vacation with his family'
Details have emerged about some of the people on board the plane.
They include Alain Oktavianus Siauw, whose fiance says she was on her way to the airport to pick him up when she heard the plane had gone missing.
Louise Sidharta said Siauw was supposed to be enjoying a family vacation before the two got married. "It was to be his last vacation with his family," she said.
Siauw's Facebook page says he lives in Malang, a province in Indonesia.
The disappearance of Flight 8501 also stirred painful memories of the families of people on board Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which dropped off radar over the South China Sea in March.
Nearly 10 months later, searchers are still combing remote reaches of the southern Indian Ocean for any trace of the Boeing 777 that had 239 people on board.
"The lack of ability to close things down emotionally is just exhausting," said Sarah Bajc told CNN on Monday night. Her partner, Philip Woods, was on board Flight 370.
When news broke that another plane had disappeared this week, Bajc said, "I just started to shake."
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/30/world/asia/airasia-missing-plane/index.html?iid=HP_LN
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tiger's fleet consists of A320 only. now this is worrying...
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Bodies found in Indonesian waters where plane disappeared
By DEWI NURCAHYANI and ROBIN McDOWELL
Dec. 30, 2014 6:31 AM EST
Commander of 1st Indonesian Air Force Operational Command Rear Marshall Dwi Putranto, right, shows airplane parts and a suitcase found floating on the water near the site where AirAsia Flight 8501 disappeared, during a press conference at the airbase in Pangkalan Bun, Central Borneo, Indonesia, Tuesday, Dec. 30, 2014. Bodies and debris seen floating in Indonesian waters Tuesday, painfully ended the mystery of AirAsia Flight 8501, which crashed into the Java Sea and was lost to searchers for more than two days. The writings on the suitcase reads
PANGKALAN BUN, Indonesia (AP) — Bloated bodies and debris seen floating in Indonesian waters Tuesday painfully ended the mystery of AirAsia Flight 8501, which crashed into the Java Sea with 162 people aboard and took more than two days to find, despite a massive international search.
The low-cost carrier vanished Sunday halfway through a two-hour flight between Surabaya, Indonesia and Singapore after encountering storm clouds.
On Tuesday, with crews in dozens of planes, helicopters and ships looking for the aircraft, searchers discovered what appeared to be a life jacket and an emergency exit door. Part of the plane's interior, including an oxygen tank, was brought to the nearest town, Pangkalan Bun, along with a bright blue plastic suitcase that appeared to be in perfect condition.
First Adm. Sigit Setiayanta, Naval Aviation Center commander at Surabaya Air Force base, told reporters six corpses were spotted off Borneo island and about 16 kilometers (10 miles) from the plane's last known coordinates. The bodies and wreckage were found about 160 kilometers (100 miles) from land.
Rescue workers were shown on local TV being lowered on ropes from a hovering helicopter to retrieve bodies. Efforts were hindered by 2-meter-high (6-foot) waves and strong winds, National Search and Rescue Director SB Supriyadi said, adding that several bodies were later picked up by a navy ship.
Supriyadi said he saw what appeared to be more wreckage under the water, which was clear and a relatively shallow 20 to 30 meters (65 to 100 feet).
Indonesian television showed a half-naked body of a man whose shirt partially covered his head. The images sent a spasm of pain through family members watching together in a waiting room at the Surabaya airport.
Many screamed and wailed uncontrollably, breaking down into tears while they squeezed each other. One middle-aged man collapsed and had to be carried out on a stretcher.
AirAsia group CEO Tony Fernandes tweeted, "My heart is filled with sadness for all the families involved in QZ 8501. On behalf of AirAsia my condolences to all. Words cannot express how sorry I am." By evening he had flown back to Surabaya to meet passengers' families.
Pilots of the jet had been worried about the weather on Sunday and sought permission to climb above threatening clouds, but were denied due to heavy air traffic. Minutes later, the jet was gone from the radar without issuing a distress signal.
The suspected crash caps an astonishingly tragic year for air travel in Southeast Asia, and Malaysia in particular. Malaysia-based AirAsia's loss comes on top of the still-unsolved disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in March with 239 people aboard, and the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in July over Ukraine, which killed all 298 passengers and crew.
Nearly all the passengers and crew are Indonesians, who are frequent visitors to Singapore, particularly on holidays.
Ifan Joko, 54, said that despite the tragic news he is still hoping for a miracle. His brother, Charlie Gunawan, along with his wife, their three children and two other family members, were traveling to Singapore on the plane to ring in the New Year.
"I know the plane has crashed, but I cannot believe my brother and his family are dead," he said, wiping a tear. "... We still pray they are alive."
Several countries are helping Indonesia retrieve the wreckage and the passengers.
The United States on Tuesday announced it was sending the USS Sampson destroyer, joining at least 30 ships, 15 aircraft and seven helicopters in the search for the jet, said Indonesia's Search and Rescue Agency chief Henry Bambang Soelistyo.
A Chinese frigate was also on the way, while Singapore said it was sending two underwater beacon detectors to try to detect pings from the plane's all-important cockpit voice and flight data recorders. Malaysia, Australia and Thailand also are involved in the search.
Bodies found in Indonesian waters where plane disappeared
By DEWI NURCAHYANI and ROBIN McDOWELL
Dec. 30, 2014 6:31 AM EST
Commander of 1st Indonesian Air Force Operational Command Rear Marshall Dwi Putranto, right, shows airplane parts and a suitcase found floating on the water near the site where AirAsia Flight 8501 disappeared, during a press conference at the airbase in Pangkalan Bun, Central Borneo, Indonesia, Tuesday, Dec. 30, 2014. Bodies and debris seen floating in Indonesian waters Tuesday, painfully ended the mystery of AirAsia Flight 8501, which crashed into the Java Sea and was lost to searchers for more than two days. The writings on the suitcase reads
PANGKALAN BUN, Indonesia (AP) — Bloated bodies and debris seen floating in Indonesian waters Tuesday painfully ended the mystery of AirAsia Flight 8501, which crashed into the Java Sea with 162 people aboard and took more than two days to find, despite a massive international search.
The low-cost carrier vanished Sunday halfway through a two-hour flight between Surabaya, Indonesia and Singapore after encountering storm clouds.
On Tuesday, with crews in dozens of planes, helicopters and ships looking for the aircraft, searchers discovered what appeared to be a life jacket and an emergency exit door. Part of the plane's interior, including an oxygen tank, was brought to the nearest town, Pangkalan Bun, along with a bright blue plastic suitcase that appeared to be in perfect condition.
First Adm. Sigit Setiayanta, Naval Aviation Center commander at Surabaya Air Force base, told reporters six corpses were spotted off Borneo island and about 16 kilometers (10 miles) from the plane's last known coordinates. The bodies and wreckage were found about 160 kilometers (100 miles) from land.
Rescue workers were shown on local TV being lowered on ropes from a hovering helicopter to retrieve bodies. Efforts were hindered by 2-meter-high (6-foot) waves and strong winds, National Search and Rescue Director SB Supriyadi said, adding that several bodies were later picked up by a navy ship.
Supriyadi said he saw what appeared to be more wreckage under the water, which was clear and a relatively shallow 20 to 30 meters (65 to 100 feet).
Indonesian television showed a half-naked body of a man whose shirt partially covered his head. The images sent a spasm of pain through family members watching together in a waiting room at the Surabaya airport.
Many screamed and wailed uncontrollably, breaking down into tears while they squeezed each other. One middle-aged man collapsed and had to be carried out on a stretcher.
AirAsia group CEO Tony Fernandes tweeted, "My heart is filled with sadness for all the families involved in QZ 8501. On behalf of AirAsia my condolences to all. Words cannot express how sorry I am." By evening he had flown back to Surabaya to meet passengers' families.
Pilots of the jet had been worried about the weather on Sunday and sought permission to climb above threatening clouds, but were denied due to heavy air traffic. Minutes later, the jet was gone from the radar without issuing a distress signal.
The suspected crash caps an astonishingly tragic year for air travel in Southeast Asia, and Malaysia in particular. Malaysia-based AirAsia's loss comes on top of the still-unsolved disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in March with 239 people aboard, and the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in July over Ukraine, which killed all 298 passengers and crew.
Nearly all the passengers and crew are Indonesians, who are frequent visitors to Singapore, particularly on holidays.
Ifan Joko, 54, said that despite the tragic news he is still hoping for a miracle. His brother, Charlie Gunawan, along with his wife, their three children and two other family members, were traveling to Singapore on the plane to ring in the New Year.
"I know the plane has crashed, but I cannot believe my brother and his family are dead," he said, wiping a tear. "... We still pray they are alive."
Several countries are helping Indonesia retrieve the wreckage and the passengers.
The United States on Tuesday announced it was sending the USS Sampson destroyer, joining at least 30 ships, 15 aircraft and seven helicopters in the search for the jet, said Indonesia's Search and Rescue Agency chief Henry Bambang Soelistyo.
A Chinese frigate was also on the way, while Singapore said it was sending two underwater beacon detectors to try to detect pings from the plane's all-important cockpit voice and flight data recorders. Malaysia, Australia and Thailand also are involved in the search.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ilot-denied-request-climb-stormy-weather.html
AirAsia crash victims found: At least 40 bodies from doomed jet are recovered from the Java Sea
Dozens of bodies spotted floating in the sea off coast of Borneo Island
At least 40 bodies recovered from the water by Indonesian naval vessel
Officials have now confirmed wreckage is from AirAsia flight 8501
Local television showed at least one bloated corpse floating in water
Footage caused relatives watching live news stream to collapse in grief
AirAsia Airbus A320-200 vanished on Sunday with 162 people aboard
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...quest-climb-stormy-weather.html#ixzz3NNgfGV61
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ilot-denied-request-climb-stormy-weather.html
AirAsia crash victims found: At least 40 bodies from doomed jet are recovered from the Java Sea
Dozens of bodies spotted floating in the sea off coast of Borneo Island
At least 40 bodies recovered from the water by Indonesian naval vessel
Officials have now confirmed wreckage is from AirAsia flight 8501
Local television showed at least one bloated corpse floating in water
Footage caused relatives watching live news stream to collapse in grief
AirAsia Airbus A320-200 vanished on Sunday with 162 people aboard
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...quest-climb-stormy-weather.html#ixzz3NNgfGV61
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The wing and frontal section of the fuselage remains intact point towards the possibility that the aircraft made a control ditching and sunk. If this is the case, some passengers might had drowned.
The wing and frontal section of the fuselage remains intact point towards the possibility that the aircraft made a control ditching and sunk. If this is the case, some passengers might had drowned.
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Re: Sinkapore wanna up Indons on Air Asia crash
this shows that some muther farkers were so engrossed in their candy crush, they lost a valuable 7 mins. this is what happen when croynism is involved and you have your bros taking cushy job so cushy he has no time for real work
this shows that some muther farkers were so engrossed in their candy crush, they lost a valuable 7 mins. this is what happen when croynism is involved and you have your bros taking cushy job so cushy he has no time for real work
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Because we never miss a chance to kick neighbors in the teeth. And our reward is shit water and expensive building costs. We never learn
Because we never miss a chance to kick neighbors in the teeth. And our reward is shit water and expensive building costs. We never learn
Critics ask how AirAsia jetliner went missing in age of GPS
By Alwyn Scott
NEW YORK Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:21pm EST
(Reuters) - Air travel advocates are demanding global aviation authorities explain how an AirAsia jetliner with 162 people aboard got lost at a time when satellites and webcams monitor society's every move.
"It should be impossible for an airliner to go missing" in an age when people can track their phones and cars to within a few feet, said Paul Hudson, president of Flyersrights.org and a member of a U.S. Federal Aviation Authority rulemaking advisory committee.
For two days rescuers have been unable to locate wreckage from the AirAsia Flight QZ8501, an Airbus A320 that was built in 2008 and last serviced in November, which likely did not fly far from its last radar sighting.
The technology exists for more closely pinpointing the location of the flight moments after it vanished on Sunday from radar screens, tracking experts say, and it would have helped narrow the vast search area in the Java Sea. But those systems are not fully deployed.
Global air-traffic control systems are in various stages of upgrade from radar to GPS ground and satellite navigation amid disagreements between airlines, governments and regulators about standards, costs and recommended implementation deadlines.
Hudson's group complains that failures going back more than a decade have led to many recommendations but little change in how planes are monitored. The group wants regulators to require better tracking.
Kevin Mitchell, founder and chairman of the Business Travel Coalition, an advocacy group for corporate travel departments, said the inability to quickly locate planes would likely have a "chilling effect" on travelers.
"We're pressing for making tracking a higher priority" for regulators, he said.
'AT LEAST A DECADE AWAY'
Charles Leocha, chairman of Travelers United, another advocacy group, predicted that despite the increased urgency, "a solution is at least a decade away" because of industry reluctance to incur costs and the difficulty setting equipment standards.
Better tracking and real-time flight-data monitoring became urgent issues after Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 went missing in March with 239 people on board, possibly flying for hours on autopilot as a "ghost plane" until its fuel ran out. It is thought to have crashed in a remote part of the Indian Ocean.
Its disappearance prompted the International Civil Aviation Organization, a United Nations agency, to set up a task force led by the International Air Transport Association on tracking systems.
IATA's working group, representing airlines, pilots, air traffic controllers and airplane makers, already has agreed aircraft should be tracked to the nearest nautical mile.
In December the task force recommended a deadline of 12 months for deploying existing tracking systems, but IATA board members vetoed that timetable, saying it may prove impractical, stopping what was seen as the best chance of prompt action.
The AirAsia flight had a flight-tracking system known as ADS-B that the FlightRadar24 website used to publish its flight path. Ground-based air traffic controllers had radar data that showed the plane disappeared at 6:17 am local time on Sunday (2317 GMT).
"Clearly something happened where it went off the radar screen and they weren't able to fix a last location of the aircraft," said Don Thoma, chief executive of Aireon, a unit of Iridium Communications that is developing a satellite-based tracking system.
ICAO said on Monday it was premature to comment on AirAsia.
But Teuku Faizasyah, Indonesia's ambassador to Canada and its permanent representative to the ICAO, when asked what the organization could do, told Reuters: "It's a tough question. This involves private companies ... They may need to add some instruments that are very expensive."
(Reporting by Alwyn Scott in New York, Allison Lampert in Montreal, Allison Martell in Toronto and Tim Hepher in Paris; Editing by Howard Goller)
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