Is LHL Serious about Re-taking Aljunied GRC?

[TracyTan866]

The northeast is red. i never like the new wp flag they now use in public. i still prefer the old party flag they use only at town council.

The East is red sounds too communist and may not go down well with many Singaporeans. Blue is also normally associated with friends..friendly people are Blue.

 

[Ramseth]

Times have changed. And yes, i do expect a teacher, nurse, police officer or Singtel tech to vote against the pap if they are unhappy with the pap. Why shdn't they?

I've never voted for PAP when I was with police and NTUC. Police act neutral and never participate in campaigning except for security. NTUC openly declare support for PAP and mid management even had to arrange for junior staff and agents to attend PAP rallies. Nevertheless at the polling booth, I've never voted for PAP.

 

[Sideswipe]

NTUC openly declare support for PAP and mid management even had to arrange for junior staff and agents to attend PAP rallies. Nevertheless at the polling booth, I've never voted for PAP.

NTUC can arrange for her staffs to help or attend PAP rallies but cannot make them vote for PAP.
NTUC president declares support for PAP, that's 1 vote for PAP lor.

 

[TracyTan866]

I've never voted for PAP when I was with police and NTUC. Police act neutral and never participate in campaigning except for security. NTUC openly declare support for PAP and mid management even had to arrange for junior staff and agents to attend PAP rallies. Nevertheless at the polling booth, I've never voted for PAP.

Thanks for sharing...We know that the Police is supposed to be neutral but it's still comforting to hear confirmation that Police is indeed neutral.

I am sure there is nothing in the Civil Service to tell govt servants to vote for the pap. A day will come when it's an honour for civil servants to vote against the pap.

Those govt servants who spread the rumour that they have to vote for the pap are indeed b.lless.

 

[TracyTan866]

NTUC can arrange for her staffs to help or attend PAP rallies but cannot make them vote for PAP.
NTUC president declares support for PAP, that's 1 vote for PAP lor.

the NTUC president shows that he is an obedient dog. I am glad that many NTUC members did not follow him but instead voted according to their conscience

 

[TracyTan866]

I've never voted for PAP when I was with police and NTUC. Police act neutral and never participate in campaigning except for security. NTUC openly declare support for PAP and mid management even had to arrange for junior staff and agents to attend PAP rallies. Nevertheless at the polling booth, I've never voted for PAP.

Did the Police or NTUC discreetly tried to coerce or persuade their members to vote pap?

 

[TracyTan866]

NTUC can arrange for her staffs to help or attend PAP rallies but cannot make them vote for PAP.
NTUC president declares support for PAP, that's 1 vote for PAP lor.

Can any NTUC staff refuse to attend any political rally arranged by NTUC?

 

[TracyTan866]

NTUC can arrange for her staffs to help or attend PAP rallies but cannot make them vote for PAP.
NTUC president declares support for PAP, that's 1 vote for PAP lor.

It's weird. NTUC Chief, a pap minister, telling NTUC management that he is standing for election at East Coast GRC. shouldnt the NTUC Chief divorce himself politically when he wears the the Trade Union hat and declare himself politically neutral, allowing NTUC management and members to truly vote according to their preferences and beliefs? or am I too idealistic?

 

[Ramseth]

Did the Police or NTUC discreetly tried to coerce or persuade their members to vote pap?

Sideswipe is correct. There's no way to force anyone to vote for PAP. There's also no way to trace individual votes. In Police, we didn't even talk about politics and voting, just do our duties as assigned. In NTUC, yes, there's implied persuasion to vote for PAP, but not to the extent of coercion.

Can any NTUC staff refuse to attend any political rally arranged by NTUC?

It's not forced, but attending PAP rallies carries staff activity paricipation points, helpful for those wanting promotion.

 

[TracyTan866]

Sideswipe is correct. There's no way to force anyone to vote for PAP. There's also no way to trace individual votes. In Police, we didn't even talk about politics and voting, just do our duties as assigned. In NTUC, yes, there's implied persuasion to vote for PAP, but not to the extent of coercion.

Good to hear that..so we need to spread this message more so that the more timid staff are not intimidated to vote against their prefernce and conscience

 

[TracyTan866]

It's not forced, but attending PAP rallies carries staff activity paricipation points, helpful for those wanting promotion.

Subtle coercion..can sway some voters. evil

 

[Fook Seng]

Thanks for sharing...We know that the Police is supposed to be neutral but it's still comforting to hear confirmation that Police is indeed neutral.

I am sure there is nothing in the Civil Service to tell govt servants to vote for the pap. A day will come when it's an honour for civil servants to vote against the pap.

Those govt servants who spread the rumour that they have to vote for the pap are indeed b.lless.

In fact, civil servants are told they are apolitical and not supposed to take part in political activities. Because of the mass misunderstanding. WP had to tell the electorate at the last election that their votes were secret which was true (it is not to say that it is not possible to find out how you vote but it is a cumbersome process and unless you are really somebody important, it is practically impossible to do it). The PAP on the other hand elected to keep their silence in order to propagate the fear that it was not.

 

[Fook Seng]

Can any NTUC staff refuse to attend any political rally arranged by NTUC?

They used the term "volunteer" but since sever of their senior bosses were standing for election so you are urged to volunteer your support for the bosses. There must be a lot of pressure and personal struggle in this. I think it is wicked to submit your staff to this.

 

[TracyTan866]

In fact, civil servants are told they are apolitical and not supposed to take part in political activities. Because of the mass misunderstanding. WP had to tell the electorate at the last election that their votes were secret which was true (it is not to say that it is not possible to find out how you vote but it is a cumbersome process and unless you are really somebody important, it is practically impossible to do it)..

Singaporeans need to show courage and wisdom. We should not be afraid nor be cowed to do what we believe is right. If, voting against the pap is right, it's our duty and right to do so. Even if the pap finds out, so what? It is not wrong nor an offence to exercise our right to vote for who we want.

If all Singaporeans are knowledgeable and wise, the pap will be in deep trouble

 

[TracyTan866]

The PAP on the other hand elected to keep their silence in order to propagate the fear that it was not.

It's to the pap's advantage should singaporeans is fearful to vote against the pap. that's why the pap is happy to keep singaporeans fearful and ignorant

 

[TracyTan866]

They used the term "volunteer" but since sever of their senior bosses were standing for election so you are urged to volunteer your support for the bosses. There must be a lot of pressure and personal struggle in this. I think it is wicked to submit your staff to this.

Yes, it is wicked, unethical and wrong. One day, this mishandling of staff will blow up in NTUC's face

 

[HedgeTrader]

You girls dont know. Its NS guys culture. Oi, who want to volunteer to wash toilet? Nobody volunteer izzit? (NCO anyhopw point 2 he dont like) OK you and you volunteer. KNN for those 2 arrowed and LOL for the rest LOL

 

[LogInLogOut]

You girls dont know. Its NS guys culture. Oi, who want to volunteer to wash toilet? Nobody volunteer izzit? (NCO anyhopw point 2 he dont like) OK you and you volunteer. KNN for those 2 arrowed and LOL for the rest LOL

thought you from SPF?

 

[TracyTan866]

You girls dont know. Its NS guys culture. Oi, who want to volunteer to wash toilet? Nobody volunteer izzit? (NCO anyhopw point 2 he dont like) OK you and you volunteer. KNN for those 2 arrowed and LOL for the rest LOL

hahaha, is that how people got tasked in NS? dont the NS guys complain or protest? no wonder govt agencies like NTUC bully SG guys..they know SG guys r b.lless and subservient. They prefer not to do that to SG gals...

Look at Gayle Goh, Melanie Teo who even answered and retorted LKY who became speechless. It must be the first time LKY was retorted and snubbed by a SG gal in front of a public audience.

We need more SG gals

 

[TracyTan866]

hahaha, is that how people got tasked in NS? dont the NS guys complain or protest? no wonder govt agencies like NTUC bully SG guys..they know SG guys r b.lless and subservient. They prefer not to do that to SG gals...

Look at Gayle Goh, Melanie Teo who even answered and retorted LKY who became speechless. It must be the first time LKY was retorted and snubbed by a SG gal in front of a public audience.

We need more SG gals

sounds like illogical assignment of tasks and abuse of authority...totally senseless. no wonder SG guys detest and hate NS..