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Png: 'I took my name out of NCMP list

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WP chief Low Thia Khiang criticised the leak of the party minutes as a "calculated move" to sabotage its candidate Png Eng Huat. (Yahoo! photo/Jason Ong)

Worker’s Party Secretary-General Low Thia Khiang has condemned the leak of the party’s extraordinary meeting minutes as a “weak attempt at the discrediting the WP”.

Speaking at Tuesday night’s rally at Hougang Central, Low sought to set the record straight on Hougang candidate Png Eng Huat – whose intentions surrounding the non-constituency Member of Parliament scheme were called into question when the minutes were leaked.

The minutes showed that Png had indeed been in the running to become an NCMP despite his earlier claims to the media that he had not been involved in the internal party ballot post the May elections last year.

“Personal preference had to be set aside,” said Low, explaining that he had entered Png’s name into the ballot box despite knowing that he had not wanted to become an NCMP. “Whether a candidate personally wanted to be an NCMP or not, the decision is not his. This is how I believe a collective leadership should function in a political party.”

Deputy Prime Minister Teo Chee Hean had earlier questioned WP’s decision not to field Png for the NCMP post last May and if he was indeed the best man for Hougang. He also raised “ issues of honesty and being upfront” when Png admitted he had not physically “taken his name out of the ballot” as previously claimed. Png later clarified that while he voiced his stand against the NCMP scheme to Low and other party members, he "went through the motions" as part of a standard selection procedure.

Condemning the release of the leaked minutes online as a “calculated move” made to sabotage Png and his campaign in Hougang, Low invited members of the public to view the minutes, saying that it ”shows that the WP functions in a fair and transparent manner where decisions are made collectively.”

He then appealed to voters not to be distracted by the speculation and endorsed Png again to cheers from the crowd, calling him “a man of integrity”.

Tuesday’s WP rally saw a turnout of an estimated 15,000 people despite heavy rain which poured down on the open field midway through the rally. Spirits were clearly not dampened as hundreds of WP’s signature blue umbrellas were opened. Those without shelter headed to nearby HDB blocks to continue listening.

All key members of the Party had their say during the three-hour rally, with the first half of the speakers focusing on key national issues like housing, education and transport.

Things got heated when WP’s Gerald Giam took to the stage to shoot down PAP MP Denise Phua’s argument that there were enough independent voices within the PAP for the party to keep itself in check.

He pointed out that while PAP’s MPs may have made “grand speeches” against the building of the two casinos during debate in Parliament, they were still made to toe the party’s line when it came to the final decision making process. He added that opposition MPs, on the other hand, had the power to turn their dissent into action by voting in line with their principles.

“PAP will do everything in its power to block (opposition) … they fear the day they cannot ram through Parliament,” said NCMP Giam.

Aljunied MP Pritam Singh also spoke in the same vein, levying accusations against the PAP of “punishing Hougang for voting opposition... since 1991.”

He said that 26 community sites, including street soccer courts, in well-located areas in his ward of Eunos were made off limits for WP’s use, which “severely curbed” their efforts to organize community activities.

“WP cannot use these 26 sites but PAP can,” said Singh, whose suggestion to DPM Teo to “look into his heart of hearts” to reflect on his treatment of Hougang’s residents was met with loud boos from a worked-up crowd.

The loudest cheers of the night were saved for WP Chairman Sylvia Lim, affectionately referred to as “Ah Lian” by the crowds.

She spoke of WP’s struggle to improve the quality of its residents’ living despite being pushed to the back of the queue for most upgrading programmes. According to Lim, 33 covered link ways paid for using S$1.5 million of the Town Council’s own funds were built for its residents, and a path cutting through state land made to make the residents’ route more convenient was still being paid for out of the Council’s own pockets.

Png was the last to address the rally, and focused on his promises for Hougang residents, including plans to designate two housing clusters for upgrading and another 15 blocks for home improvement.

He also said that 34 blocks, which have been suffering from roof leakage, will be re-roofed and re-decorated.

The entire WP line-up, drenched by the downpour, then stood up and bowed before Low addressed the crowd.

“Worker’s Party is here for you, rain or shine,” he said.
 
hahaha....the hole has really gotten deeper now......so it will only be harder to get out of it unscathed.....

I wonder if LTK is also digging a deeper hole. Listen to his speech from 1.15 onwards seeking to explain Png's statement that "he took his name out of the ballot." LTK's interpretation was:

"He was not referring to the ballot paper but the ballot as in the voting process and running for the NCMP position."

Can we really say that based on what we now know, Png was not involved in the voting process as nominee ? Perhaps Png should have said "I had wanted to take my name out of the ballot" and not "I took my name out of the ballot."

But Png was unambiguous when he said:

“I actually took my name out of the ballot for the NCMP post. Because I have a personal stand against the NCMP scheme, so that’s why my name wasn’t in the ballot. So I don’t think DPM knows all of these.“

To say "so that's why my name wasn't in the ballot" is clearly intended as a statement of fact, not opinion.

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Khun Ying Pojaman said:
I wonder if LTK is also digging a deeper hole. Listen to his speech from 1.15 onwards seeking to explain Png's statement that "he took his name out

What are you saying? Even Eric Tan who could have an axe to grind has confirmed the story that except for Mohd Fasil, who was not present at the gathering, all East Coast GRC members had been informed by Png that he was not interested in the NCMP. And that is all that matters.

A word of caution for those who try to imply dishonesty from non-evidence. Not only is it a dishonest act, it is malice as well.
 
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in the final analysis, this is another example of the subborness of ltk/sl....
since png has explicitly expressed that he is against the ncmp scheme, why force him to take part?
what if png was chosen???
does he have to resign from wp in protest/or sacked for not following the decision of the cec????

what a string of wonderful questions. may me make a humble attempt?

Nation before Party, Party before Self.

Constitution made provisions for the NCMP, albeit no voting rights when bills are passed, it is a scheme to give more "voice" in the Parliament.
Party made provisions for members to be elected in secret balloting for the selection of NCMP, albeit the individual's personal stand may be in conflict with this scheme or not.
chain of events has shown that ET had resigned from WP since he's not convinced of the voting process that the CEC went through, so be it.
if Png suay suay got elected then and he wished to resign from WP, that will be his prerogative and so be it. the next person whom got the highest vote count gets the job.

me think this is truly a good reflection of collective decision being made, rather than a 1 man show. kudos to LTK for showing such transparency and accountability. well done.
 
At best, we know that Png speaks and understands English very badly and at worst Png is a liar and a cheat, like the MONGREL who bit his masters' hands LOUDHAILER chee soon juan.

What are you saying? Even Eric Tan who could have an axe to grind has confirmed the story that except for Mohd Fasil, who was not present at the gathering, all East Coast GRC members had been informed by Png that he was not interested in the NCMP. And that is all that matters.

A word of caution for those who try to imply dishonesty from non-evidence. Not only is it a dishonest act, it is malice as well.
 
At best, we know that Png speaks and understands English very badly and at worst Png is a liar and a cheat

fair enough, his command of language requires some polishing. me would suggest that these politicians use a language they are most comfortable with when they are making any speeches. :p:p:p
 
He is hopeless at all languages it seems. Did you hear him try to speak Teochew?

fair enough, his command of language requires some polishing. me would suggest that these politicians use a language they are most comfortable with when they are making any speeches. :p:p:p
 
if Png suay suay got elected then and he wished to resign from WP, that will be his prerogative and so be it. the next person whom got the highest vote count gets the job.

me think this is truly a good reflection of collective decision being made, rather than a 1 man show. kudos to LTK for showing such transparency and accountability. well done.
hahaha...there is a difference between stubbornness and transparency and accountability....
if u think it better for png to resign/sack becos he is against party line....that is your perogative/opinion....
but i said many times, u have to be careful with facts.....smoking gun can appears out of the blue.....
u cannot afford to be careless with words.....
if u made a slip....say sorry and move on....don't try to wriggle your way around......the noose will get tighter and you end up hanging yourself unwittingly.

also by saying that you are prepared to sack png or let him resign...u are getting into a bigger hole.....why select him to be candidate for HG???
what if he has some strong views and walk out/or get sacked mid-term????
 
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What are you saying? Even Eric Tan who could have an axe to grind has confirmed the story that except for Mohd Fasil, who was not present at the gathering, all East Coast GRC members had been informed by Png that he was not interested in the NCMP. And that is all that matters.

LTK was able to confirm that Png was not interested in the NCMP seat. But LTK could not explain the statement by Png that "that's why my name wasn't in the ballot". Png clearly made a statement of fact - unambiguously - which is inconsistent with the truth of the events, i.e. that his name was in fact in the ballot.

LTK attempted to differentiate between ballot paper and voting process. LTK explained that when Png said his name wasn't in the ballot, that Png meant not the ballot paper but the voting process. But the minutes that captured the voting process showed Png was involved as a nominee, a voting process during which Png clearly received a vote.

This is why I feel LTK might have dug a deeper hole. Is it so damn difficult for Png to admit that he made a mistake ? It's not dishonesty if you're let down by your command of the language or that if you were mistaken. But if you keep on twisting and turning, don't blame people for casting negative imputations.

A word of caution for those who try to imply dishonesty from non-evidence. Not only is it a dishonest act, it is malice as well.

You should direct this question to the DPM.
 
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A word of caution for those who try to imply dishonesty from non-evidence. Not only is it a dishonest act, it is malice as well.
hahaha....msm has reported/alluded that png/wp was dishonest....
wp should sue them to show that wp is credible and cannot be bullied.....
pse don't give the crap that they should not follow papee or waste time in kangarooo court...
if wp as the biggest opps party cannot defend their credibilities; then they can close shop.
 
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we shall all see if this sideshow will affect the hougang voters bo.
every time PAP will come up with such sideshows......overall they managed to fool more than backfire.
voters are waking up....more so for the hougang voters who been a beacon to the rest of sinkieland.
We shall see come results day. kpkb nitpick also no use.
Hougang voters pls dun not lose focus.
 
Like dumb sinkies would care about this brouhaha? For goodness sake, they have already decided who to vote for. :rolleyes:
 
Calculated move by who? It sure isn't:

1. PAP (no access to the minutes)
2. Eric Tan (he already resigned, so also no access to minutes).
3. Png Eng Huat (siow ah?)
4. Sylvia or himself (presumably, unless this is a mega conspiracy to attract sympathy).

That leaves the other 13 current CEC members and Yaw Shin Leong as possibilities.

Maybe GMS theory that Yaw was sabotaged by detractors in the CEC was true. And maybe it was Png who sabotaged Yaw. So now Yaw is just returning in kind.

WP chief Low Thia Khiang criticised the leak of the party minutes as a "calculated move" to sabotage its candidate Png Eng Huat. (Yahoo! photo/Jason Ong)
 
also by saying that you are prepared to sack png or let him resign...u are getting into a bigger hole.....why select him to be candidate for HG???
what if he has some strong views and walk out/or get sacked mid-term????

by selecting Png as candidate for Hougang, he gets to go into Parliament as an MP and not NCMP. last noted Png only against NCMP and not MP, no? :D:D:D

as of the second statement, if he has strong views on something, that would depend on how the WP CEC deal with him already. as long as LTK play it to the tune of Nation before Party and Party before Self, then sacking is always an option. Yaw is a very good case in point :p:p:p

anything else? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
infernal affairs lah.
good also maybe this incident can flush out the pappie mole.

Calculated move by who? It sure isn't:

1. PAP (no access to the minutes)
2. Eric Tan (he already resigned, so also no access to minutes).
3. Png Eng Huat (siow ah?)
4. Sylvia or himself (presumably, unless this is a mega conspiracy to attract sympathy).

That leaves the other 13 current CEC members and Yaw Shin Leong as possibilities.

Maybe GMS theory that Yaw was sabotaged by detractors in the CEC was true. And maybe it was Png who sabotaged Yaw. So now Yaw is just returning in kind.
 
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Re: Jia lut liao Png Eng Huat lie to the media on his NCMP stand exposed by document

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