Not a single active pro PAP samster in this forum

[Clone]

The script thing is a bad idea!

Seniority and being well-connected should be duly rewarded.

This is afterall a forum governed by, in your own words, Asian values.

In order to make things fairer in this forum, I'll be writing a script that will run daily and deduct 10 reputation points from the top 20% in this forum and distribute the points equally to the bottom 20%.

What's happening now is that the high rep point members are getting more and more points while the low rep point members are falling through the cracks. Some have even ended up with negative points. We can't allow this to happen in a just and fair forum. The gap between the haves and the have nots is getting far too wide and will cause a major rift in the community.

 

[freedalas]

I wouldn't call them passive. I classify them as grateful citizens who can appreciate what the PAP has done to make Singapore such a fantastic country to live in. I'm trying to encourage them to come here and express their gratitude.

The anti PAP members on the other hand are a rowdy ungrateful lot who don't have the brains to realise what a great country Singapore is.

I have friends and relatives who are perennial PAP voters, but not hard-core PAP supporters, in fact, some scold the PAP in private conversations.But in the end they still vote for the PAP. Why? Simply because they are fearful of the unknown and do not want any change. It's not that they are living greatly but just that they are scared of what is to come if the status quo is not maintained. This group of people will never come to this forum to speak their minds. But I concede that a small portion of the 60% may participate now with your encouragement and I welcome them, but they must be ready for some bashing here.

 

[exobay]

The script thing is a bad idea!

Seniority and being well-connected should be duly rewarded.

This is afterall a forum governed by, in your own words, Asian values.

What about those members who joined but are inactive? Some have not even posted since the day they joined 2 -3 years ago?

 

[zeddy]

I wouldn't call them passive. I classify them as grateful citizens who can appreciate what the PAP has done to make Singapore such a fantastic country to live in. I'm trying to encourage them to come here and express their gratitude.

Boss this old chap already retired a long time ago from the Force.. You should recruit him to join your Merry Band Of PAP Brothers.. He can do a good job promoting the PAP policies here.. I'm sure he won't let you down and he will be very grateful to you till his dying day for giving him the golden opportunity to defend the PAP..

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[Clone]

What about those members who joined but are inactive? Some have not even posted since the day they joined 2 -3 years ago?

Good question! Being dormant I guess these members did not bother to connect with others here or contribute by posting.

 

[elephanto]

Congratulations you should get your NTUC vouchers by the end of this month.

'..... Every month end, i check my mailbox, while i count my ntuc vouchers for being pappy IB, i feel SO RICH, tears juz roll down my cheek...."

 

[OverTheCounter]

But wouldn't that be a realistic representation of S'pore society. I mean the 60% who voted the PAP despite of their failings are those who would just let things be, make do with whatever the circumstances, no change is the best philosophy type. So we shouldn't be expecting them to come here to make favorable posts of the PAP, they are basically the complacent lot, the silent majority if you will. Whereas the 40% who voted against the PAP would naturally be the much more vocal.

It is high time the silent majority spoke up and made their voices heard. It is really an embarrassment for online discourse to be so dominated by one-sided views, coming from a small band of anarchists living on the lunatic fringe.

If I based my political views solely on what I read online, I would think Dr Chee Soon Juan is the greatest man since Nelson Mandela, that Singapore was a filthy slump waiting to crumble into the dust, that corruption was rampant and citizens were incarcerated daily for speaking out, that half the population was living in sub-human poverty while the top 1% lived in palaces whose stairways were lined with gold and whose taps were made out of jade and ebony.

The real Singapore is much unlike what has been described online. Singaporeans are making it good out there, becoming global citizens, innvoating, inventing, and building sturdy foundations that would take us into the next decade and beyond.

I also take issue with your description of the silent majority as complacent, or those resigned to their fates and avoid change. Just because people are silent does not mean they are taking it easy or avoiding change. They are silent because they support government policies and know it benefits the nation in the long run. The silent majority are working hard to better their lives. It is the vocal minority that is avoiding the challenges of the day and living in self-denial.

 

[Fook Seng]

It is high time the silent majority spoke up and made their voices heard. It is really an embarrassment for online discourse to be so dominated by one-sided views, coming from a small band of anarchists living on the lunatic fringe.

If I based my political views solely on what I read online, I would think Dr Chee Soon Juan is the greatest man since Nelson Mandela,

It is evident that you have not spent enough time in this forum to make this comment on CSJ and the assumption how forummers viewed him.

 

[Fook Seng]

The script thing is a bad idea!

Seniority and being well-connected should be duly rewarded.

This is afterall a forum governed by, in your own words, Asian values.

Don't be mistaken Asian values is the Sexforum. This Afresco Cafe has no value. It is free for all.

 

[Fook Seng]

I wouldn't call them passive. I classify them as grateful citizens who can appreciate what the PAP has done to make Singapore such a fantastic country to live in. I'm trying to encourage them to come here and express their gratitude.

The anti PAP members on the other hand are a rowdy ungrateful lot who don't have the brains to realise what a great country Singapore is.

I agree with you. Since these people have gained so much under PAP rule, they should repay their debts in this forum and be slaughtered by forummers.

 

[Cestbon]

What about those members who joined but are inactive? Some have not even posted since the day they joined 2 -3 years ago?

Many come during election. After that gone again.

 

[Ramseth]

Besides me.

This situation is far from ideal. As a result, I have no choice but to impose restrictions on the most eloquent of the anti PAP brigade in order to level the playing field.

In any society, the underprivileged need to be given assistance. The same applies in a forum environment. I'm fighting a lone battle here and in order to even out the odds, these measures are necessary.

I'm very pro PAP in many things but not all things. I was with police and NTUC and YPAP and know many MPs and ministers all the way up to LKY. But I chose to join WP, like what you said, balance is the word.

 

[freedalas]

It is high time the silent majority spoke up and made their voices heard. It is really an embarrassment for online discourse to be so dominated by one-sided views, coming from a small band of anarchists living on the lunatic fringe.

If I based my political views solely on what I read online, I would think Dr Chee Soon Juan is the greatest man since Nelson Mandela, that Singapore was a filthy slump waiting to crumble into the dust, that corruption was rampant and citizens were incarcerated daily for speaking out, that half the population was living in sub-human poverty while the top 1% lived in palaces whose stairways were lined with gold and whose taps were made out of jade and ebony.

The real Singapore is much unlike what has been described online. Singaporeans are making it good out there, becoming global citizens, innvoating, inventing, and building sturdy foundations that would take us into the next decade and beyond.

I also take issue with your description of the silent majority as complacent, or those resigned to their fates and avoid change. Just because people are silent does not mean they are taking it easy or avoiding change. They are silent because they support government policies and know it benefits the nation in the long run. The silent majority are working hard to better their lives. It is the vocal minority that is avoiding the challenges of the day and living in self-denial.

If this is only what u can muster as a way of speaking as a silent majority, then u are dead meat. What u wrote is exactly what the PAP has spouting for 50 years, so what's new? You got to do better than that. COme on show us more backbone than just parroting your masters. Hey Leongsam - better look after you cronies lah, give them some fresh ammo before posting lah, all the recycled stuff, that we don't even want to dignify to rebut.

 

[Froggy]

Dear brothers and some sisters here, many of you know me as an easy going guy living in Bangkok. Many also know I am quite neutral in my postings although I admit I am anti PAP and in Thailand you can consider me a red shirt sympathizer. Many also know me as a guy who don't really fuck care about points or upz or zaps. I come here simply because I enjoy being with many of you.

However it has come to a time when the course of nature is going to be altered and the freedom of expression is being curtailed by threats, I mean to balance the anti-PAP group is itself unfair. So how now, I must be force to speak good about PAP or rather I cannot speak against it if I buay song? Or I have to be a hypocrite and pretend to speak good about it? I have lived my 40 years in Singapore under PAP's threats and I have enough of it. I have found my freedom in Thailand and also in SBF however as SBF is evolving to lower itself like scums a decision needs to be made. I know I am only a small fry here so I may not be affected however as it had broken the very fundamental right of expression I have made a simple decision.

Happy New Year. All the best to you all. Finally, Sawasdee Krup for the last time.

 

[Cruxx]

Seems like it's true that Sinkies have no sense of irony.

 

[Froggy]

Happy New Year. All the best to you all. Finally, Sawasdee Krup for the last time.

For those who have my personal email you can contact me, I am always game to host any fellow countryman at least for a drink.

This is for all you pro-PAP knn

 

[soIsee]

Yeah but the 60% don't participate here. They're busy enjoying the wonderful life that the PAP has created for them in modern, dynamic and progressive singapore.

You want to be sarcastic and be ' a critic' in disguise against the Pappy also don't need to start a thread on it lei!

Haven't you got enough of such threads here?

 

[soIsee]

If this is only what u can muster as a way of speaking as a silent majority, then u are dead meat. What u wrote is exactly what the PAP has spouting for 50 years, so what's new? You got to do better than that. COme on show us more backbone than just parroting your masters. Hey Leongsam - better look after you cronies lah, give them some fresh ammo before posting lah, all the recycled stuff, that we don't even want to dignify to rebut.

Over the Counter is trying to pull his Bull shit crap sprouted by his PAP Master pass to 51 years.

But since it takes more than 50 man years to tabulate all the Pappy assets to the dollar value, OvertheCounter would think he has another 100 years to BS!

 

[freedalas]

Over the Counter is trying to pull his Bull shit crap sprouted by his PAP Master pass to 51 years.

But since it takes more than 50 man years to tabulate all the Pappy assets to the dollar value, OvertheCounter would think he has another 100 years to BS!

Good one, soIsee, way to go. Hey OverTheCounter, u see PAP has so many past sins that any forummer can just pull one out anytime to rebut the pro PAP samsters.

 

[mojito]

I'm encouraging the silent majority to be more vocal. Surely there's nothing wrong with that.

There's no point preaching to the converted. You should be happy if I can get more pro PAP Singaporeans to speak up here.

Are points fungible?

However like high salaries for political office holders, it remains to be seen whether your gifting of points would attract quality pro-PAP posters who can bring out the best arguments for existing PAP policies. OverTheCounter's pro-PAP posts so far has been quite weak imho, mainly because he regurgitates PAP PR materials, instead of advancing or defending some of their policy stance. You see the same problem with politicians and regular party members.

One must wonder if points can attract quality posters, or extravagant ministerial salaries for quality political office holders. Can extrinsic motivation encourage people to make better posts?

No comments on the "redistribution". It would make for an interesting social experiment.

Never a dull day here at SBF