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Following koranic laws, Muslim rapist released from jail on condition that he marries his victim

duluxe

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Clinical death my friend. To a dark place where time and space have no meaning. Some were tormented for ages, others never wanted to leave. And suddenly, they are revived and alive again. Just for a moment, but their adventures were much longer.

You miss one big evidence, our lord Jesus Christ had momentarily died and raised back to life.
 

syed putra

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You miss one big evidence, our lord Jesus Christ had momentarily died and raised back to life.
There was a opinion that he was also in India during the missing years. Who knows what actually happened . In my opinion he was against religious doctrine and was reason why he confronted the 12 disciples. But they betrayed him.
 

duluxe

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Get it into your head
Islam is not about muslims.
Islam is the laws Allah has brought down for people to adhere. Those not sticking to it, you cannot blame Islam but the people themselves.

1. You say Islam is NOT about muslims, then @syed putra is right when he says 'you don't need religion to believe in the creator'. He believes in Allah but he does not considered himself to be a muslim

2. When Malaysia's religion authority enacted apostate laws, imams and islamic scholars were consulted. They made proposals guided by the Koran and hadiths. They have studied the holy text in depth in arabic language. You are not reading the Quran in arabic but in english or malayu translation. The original meaning can be loss during translation. Why you believe you have adhered to Islamic laws more correctly than the experts who have studied in arabic language?
 

Loofydralb

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1. You say Islam is NOT about muslims, then @syed putra is right when he says 'you don't need religion to believe in the creator'. He believes in Allah but he does not considered himself to be a muslim

2. When Malaysia's religion authority enacted apostate laws, imams and islamic scholars were consulted. They made proposals guided by the Koran and hadiths. They have studied the holy text in depth in arabic language. You are not reading the Quran in arabic but in english or malayu translation. The original meaning can be loss during translation. Why you believe you have adhered to Islamic laws more correctly than the experts who have studied in arabic language?
1. Then how does Syed gets his morality. From his own made up desires?
2. What apostate laws did they enact that you are objecting?
 

duluxe

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1. Then how does Syed gets his morality. From his own made up desires?
2. What apostate laws did they enact that you are objecting?

1. Where he gets his morality from, I don't know. But, I know his marality can be better than some of the imams and muslim preachers(see my past posts)

2. All muslim countries and secular countries with majority muslims have enacted apostate laws. How they handle their traitors, is their internal business and non of my business. I am objecting to killing, especially when non-believers got killed. In malaysia, no muslim has been killed under the apostate laws but non-muslims have been killed. News reported them as missing, actually they were killed. If @JohnTan were to go JB to proselytize his christianity to johor muuds, his wife and family will never find him back. They can't even reported him as death. Where do you think he can be found?
 
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syed putra

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The imams got it wrong. You cannot impose a persons belief. It has to come from the insyed and not forced in from the outsyed.
Morality is built in. Some chose to ignore and violate. Leaders use brainwashing to get followers to commit attrocities. Religion, ideology such as nationalism or freedom or ketuanan are such medium. Stay away from these confined thoughts and seek God for guidance,
 

duluxe

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The imams got it wrong. You cannot impose a persons belief. It has to come from the insyed and not forced in from the outsyed.
Morality is built in. Some chose to ignore and violate. Leaders use brainwashing to get followers to commit attrocities. Religion, ideology such as nationalism or freedom or ketuanan are such medium. Stay away from these confined thoughts and seek God for guidance,

1. By his islamic religion reasoning, muuds before they were islamized, have kosong marality

2. By his stovepipe morality, the desire to do good like giving up a seat in the MRT for a pregnant woman, must come from the religion islam
 

Loofydralb

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1. By his islamic religion reasoning, muuds before they were islamized, have kosong marality

2. By his stovepipe morality, the desire to do good like giving up a seat in the MRT for a pregnant woman, must come from the religion islam
And by you shifting morality, screwing backsides is good. In a few decades, screwing your pets will be your morality.
Soon having babies with your daughters and mother will be basic human right.
See. When you don't have an anchor for your morality, eventually everything goes.
 

duluxe

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And by you shifting morality, screwing backsides is good. In a few decades, screwing your pets will be your morality.
Soon having babies with your daughters and mother will be basic human right.
See. When you don't have an anchor for your morality, eventually everything goes.

When you have the wrong anchor, it is worst. You said earlier, Islam cannot be blamed but muslims themselves. If muslims use a malfunction campass and ended up in the wrong direction, the fault is either with the campass or the user using it incorrectly. The campass manufacturer claims its has a perfect and uncorrupted manual, but usage statistics shows otherwise. If more than half of those who use the campass followed the manual very strictly but still got misleaded into the wrong direction, so the blame is on the campass or the users?
 

syed putra

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When you have the wrong anchor, it is worst. You said earlier, Islam cannot be blamed but muslims themselves. If muslims use a malfunction campass and ended up in the wrong direction, the fault is either with the campass or the user using it incorrectly. The campass manufacturer claims its has a perfect and uncorrupted manual, but usage statistics shows otherwise. If more than half of those who use the campass followed the manual very strictly but still got misleaded into the wrong direction, so the blame is on the campass or the users?
I think in short, if the foundation is faulty, the structure will be crooked.
 

Loofydralb

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When you have the wrong anchor, it is worst. You said earlier, Islam cannot be blamed but muslims themselves. If muslims use a malfunction campass and ended up in the wrong direction, the fault is either with the campass or the user using it incorrectly. The campass manufacturer claims its has a perfect and uncorrupted manual, but usage statistics shows otherwise. If more than half of those who use the campass followed the manual very strictly but still got misleaded into the wrong direction, so the blame is on the campass or the users?
Your example is wrong. They don't use the compass that Islam provides, instead they use their own desires just like the Kafirs.
 

duluxe

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Your example is wrong. They don't use the compass that Islam provides, instead they use their own desires just like the Kafirs.

1. What are some of the BIG moral values that the compass of islam can provide?
2. The desire to marry under age girl is considered the own desire of kaafirs or directive of the islamic campass?
 
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JohnTan

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Your example is wrong. They don't use the compass that Islam provides, instead they use their own desires just like the Kafirs.

But your 'prophet' mahomet had no moral compass at all. He knowingly broke his own islamic laws a few times. mahomet had an affair with his maid while married to multiple wives. The number of his wives at one time was more than the maximum of 4 wives allowed under his own islamic laws.

When your own 'prophet' makes up his revelations as he goes along to suit his convenience, he's no moral compass. And don't ever forget, your fake 'prophet' died cock standing. It's from your own islamic sources. That's a sign of death by poisoning.
 
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Loofydralb

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1. What are some of the BIG moral values that the compass of islam can provide?
2. The desire to marry under age girl is considered the own desire of kaafirs or directive of the islamic campass?
1. Mandatory charity of 2.5% of your dormant assets.
2. Islam prohibits marriage to a girl who has not reached maturity and puberty. On top of that, she can give or withhold consent to the marriage.
 

duluxe

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1. Mandatory charity of 2.5% of your dormant assets.
2. Islam prohibits marriage to a girl who has not reached maturity and puberty. On top of that, she can give or withhold consent to the marriage.

Dormant assets, islam is referring to jewelry and fixed deposit account or slaves?
 

Loofydralb

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Dormant assets, islam is referring to jewelry and fixed deposit account or slaves?
Fixed deposits are Haram as it incurs elements of usury.
Muslims today should have no slaves as the prophet has reminded us to free a slaves for the expiation of every or any sin.
Also it is best that the zakkat or mandatory charity is given directly to the people who fit into the 8 categories of recepient, instead of giving it to MUIS. That's because MUIS works hand in glove with the KAFIRS.
 

duluxe

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Fixed deposits are Haram as it incurs elements of usury.
Muslims today should have no slaves as the prophet has reminded us to free a slaves for the expiation of every or any sin.
Also it is best that the zakkat or mandatory charity is given directly to the people who fit into the 8 categories of recepient, instead of giving it to MUIS. That's because MUIS works hand in glove with the KAFIRS.
What are the 8 categories?
 
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