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China Strong and Mighty = Dangerous?

huahero

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中国不是东亚病夫!

China said Sunday its military spending would top $100 billion in 2012 -- a double-digit increase on last year -- in a move likely to fuel concerns about Beijing's rapid military build-up.

The defence budget will rise 11.2 percent to 670.27 billion yuan ($106.41 billion), said Li Zhaoxing, a spokesman for China's national parliament, citing a budget report submitted to the country's rubber-stamp legislature.

The figure marks a slowdown from 2011 when spending rose by 12.7 percent but is still likely to fuel worries over China's growing assertiveness in the Asia-Pacific region and push its neighbours to forge closer ties with the United States.

Li described the budget as "relatively low" as a percentage of gross domestic product compared with other countries and said it was aimed at "safeguarding sovereignty, national security and territorial integrity".

"We have a large territory and a long coastline but our defence spending is relatively low compared with other major countries," Li told reporters.

"It will not in the least pose a threat to other countries."

China has been increasing its military spending by double digits for most of the past decade, during which time its economy, now the world's second largest, has grown at a blistering pace.

The People's Liberation Army -- the world's largest with an estimated 2.3 million troops -- is hugely secretive about its defence programmes, but insists its modernisation is purely defensive in nature.

The rapid military build-up has nevertheless set alarm bells ringing across Asia and in Washington, which announced in January a defence strategy focused on countering China's rising power.

Analysts said the smaller-than-expected increase in spending this year was an attempt by Beijing to ease concerns in the United States and the region about its growing military might.

"It is doubtful whether the message will get across because most countries know that the real budget is at least double the published one," said Willy Lam, a leading China expert at the Chinese University of Hong Kong.

Lam said funding for modernising the country's military was not included in the published budget, which mostly covered salaries for defence personnel and maintenance of existing equipment.

Money for research and development of modern weaponry "comes from elsewhere", he said.

Taiwan-based PLA expert Arthur Ding said the still considerable growth in this year's budget would push "regional countries to try to build closer ties with the United States".

"I think the regional countries will be really concerned about that," Ding told AFP.

"China has to explain and try to convince the regional countries why they need such a high growth rate."

Tokyo has repeatedly questioned Beijing's military intentions. A Japanese government-backed report last month warned that Beijing's assertiveness in the South China Sea could soon be replicated in neighbouring waters.

China lays claim to essentially all of the South China Sea, where its professed ownership of the Spratly archipelago overlaps with claims by Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan, Brunei and Malaysia.

Beijing and Tokyo also have a long-standing dispute over an uninhabited but strategically coveted island chain known as Senkaku in Japanese and Diaoyu in Chinese, which lies between Japan and Taiwan in the East China Sea.

The two sides have occasionally clashed diplomatically over the issue, most notably in late 2010, when Japan arrested the captain of a Chinese fishing vessel near the island chain after a collision with its coastguard.

China began revamping the PLA -- the former ragtag peasant force formed in 1927 by the Communist Party -- in earnest after a troubled 1979 incursion into Vietnam, when the neighbours vied for influence over Southeast Asia.

Besides conventional weaponry upgrades, the push also led to China's fast-growing space programme and the test of a satellite-destroying weapon in 2007.

Last year it unveiled its first aircraft carrier, a 300-metre-long (990-foot) former Soviet naval vessel that had its first sea trial in August.

China's defence budget is expected to double between 2011 and 2015 and outstrip the combined spending of all other key defence markets in the Asia-Pacific region, global research group IHS said last month.
 

red amoeba

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dangerous to who? The US & Europeans...yes.

Unless the culture & the social aspects elevate as quickly, a powerful but arrogant China is not pleasant.
 

longbow

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I really do not see a big issue. Their military in general is 2 generation behind that of the US. They are still spending 1/5 of what the US is spending. Then take a good look at their neighbors. When was the last time China attacked someone - compare that to US or UK.
 

red amoeba

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I really do not see a big issue. Their military in general is 2 generation behind that of the US. They are still spending 1/5 of what the US is spending. Then take a good look at their neighbors. When was the last time China attacked someone - compare that to US or UK.

they ought to go invade Japan, and repeat 东京大屠杀

go rape & kill the Japs in revenge.
 

Sideswipe

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they ought to go invade Japan, and repeat 东京大屠杀
go rape & kill the Japs in revenge.

what revenge? the chinese communists instigated and escalated the marco polo bridge incident.

ah mao had personally thanked the japanese twice for their war efforts in china during the 1950s and 1970s.
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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maybe in another 100 to 500 years. we can have a clearer picture of china.



China will be in pieces waaaaay before that......................


once global deep recession comes......................the commies will fall......................



expect The Warring States period again...................
 

Ramseth

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expect The Warring States period again...................

China had been the world's richest and most powerful country for most of the past four thousand years, a record no country could claim and would take a few more thousand years to break. The trouble with China occasionally stumbling was ironically because the of military system. All the way from Xia to Qing dynasties to KMT and CCP, regional warlords, factional warlords commanded their own armies. KMT and CCP were technically political parties. But what did they do? They fought with their own armies, not with people's ballots. Qin Shihuang was the first to abolish this by ending the warring states, but it lasted only a couple of decades.

From Han Dynasty onwards, the autonomous regional command of armies resumed again, though it was maintained that statehoods were abolished as it was under Qin. The only difference being warlords couldn't call their terrorities states, but just provinces, couldn't call themselves kings, but just lord-governors. But in practice, they still controlled and commanded the territory and army. The Emperor had to rely on their loyalty. That was in ancient and medieval era when centralized command and communication over huge tracts of territories and troops were difficult to be controlled from a single capital or throne.

That was all the way until PRC with PLA totally eradicted that system or culture. But with modern military command and communication systems, as demonstrated by USA so effectively and impressively, it's highly unlikely that PRC would lose control and China breaks up into warring states among warlords again.
 
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bruise4lee

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Not that PRC went strong in reality. It is the useless Ang Moh who fell flat on their faces and can never catch up. India etc also strong. Russia also. These are just normal pace development. Ang Moh eat shit developing backwards so they are dead. SG also dead because PAP eats Ang Moh's shit.:mad::*:
 

Ramseth

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Not that PRC went strong in reality. It is the useless Ang Moh who fell flat on their faces and can never catch up. India etc also strong. Russia also. These are just normal pace development. Ang Moh eat shit developing backwards so they are dead. SG also dead because PAP eats Ang Moh's shit.:mad::*:

月圆则亏、水满则淹
时代转替、风水轮流

 

Jah_rastafar_I

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I really do not see a big issue. Their military in general is 2 generation behind that of the US. They are still spending 1/5 of what the US is spending. Then take a good look at their neighbors. When was the last time China attacked someone - compare that to US or UK.

Don't worry no matter what china does and no matter how many times US or uk attacks another country china is always seen as the bad guy.
 

Unrepented

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The threat of breakaway states was quite real, esp among the coastal cities unwilling to share their wealth with the central and the rest. They wanted to go autonomous first using HK as a model. If the rich supports and fund it, it may happen.

Looks like sinkieland is absorbing parts of the shit that they themselves are reluctant to support and perceive as such.

China will be in pieces waaaaay before that......................


once global deep recession comes......................the commies will fall......................



expect The Warring States period again...................
 

Talking Donkey

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China,
to the ang moh and Leongsam..what do you really want from us.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54715588/101214~1.PPS




Some hard facts on China today …

China has 19% of the world’s population, but consumes
... 53% of the world's cement
... 48% of the world's iron ore
... 47% of the world's coal
... and the majority of just about every major commodity.
In 2010, China produced 11 times more steel than the United States.


New World Record: China made and sold 18 million vehicles in 2010.


China currently has the world’s fastest train and the world’s largest high-speed rail network.


China is currently the number one producer in the world of wind and solar power.


China currently controls more than 90% of the total global supply of rare earth elements.


In the past 15 years, China has moved from 14th place to 2nd place in the world in published scientific research articles.




China now possesses the fastest supercomputer on the entire globe.


At the end of March 2011, China accumulated US$3.04 trillion in foreign currency reserves
- the largest stockpile on the entire globe.


Chinese consume 50,000 cigarettes every second …
Not an enviable record though …
 
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