Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
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Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of losers.
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Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
<< Unfortunately, once again, I have no perfect solution...
I'm only confident in my beliefs about the roots of the world's problems...
And confident that I've tried my best to be the best that I can be so far... >>
Therefore, help them and we will be stuck with helping them.
Don't help them, also cannot.
Sometmes feed them (the birds) and kena jailed.
Big pool of haves help the havenots but more will gravitate to the havenots and the haves cannot sustain.
Some believe in the end of the world.
Meanwhile healthcare costs keep going up, can die but cannot fall sick.
Is it time to consider euthanasia as a solution?
<< Unfortunately, once again, I have no perfect solution...
I'm only confident in my beliefs about the roots of the world's problems...
And confident that I've tried my best to be the best that I can be so far... >>
Therefore, help them and we will be stuck with helping them.
Don't help them, also cannot.
Sometmes feed them (the birds) and kena jailed.
Big pool of haves help the havenots but more will gravitate to the havenots and the haves cannot sustain.
Some believe in the end of the world.
Meanwhile healthcare costs keep going up, can die but cannot fall sick.
Is it time to consider euthanasia as a solution?
Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
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Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
http://www.express.co.uk/comments/view/454661
NO WONDER EUROPE IS NOW BANKRUPTED INCLUDING USA TOO.
NEXT WILL BE AUSTRALIA AND NZ. NOT TOO FAR AWAY, I THINK.
ONLY IN THE UK!
Family Bread Winners, state funded!
ANY WONDER THE UK IS BANKRUPT...!???
This is preposterous! A doctor told me that a woman in her late 20's came to the hospital today with her 8th pregnancy.
She told the first doctor she saw: "My mum told me that I am the breadwinner for the family." He asked her to explain. She said that she can make babies and babies get money from the State for the family. It goes like this:
The Grandma calls the Department for Work and pensions, and states that the unemployed daughter is not capable of caring for all of her kids. DWP agrees, and tells her the children will need to go into foster care.
The Grandma then volunteers to be the foster parent, and receives a cheque for £700per child each month.
Total yearly income:
£58,800 soon to become £67200 when the 8th one is born, tax-free and nobody has to go to work! In fact, they get more if there is no husband/father/man in the home! The brother does not count.
Not to mention free dental treatment, free housing, free council tax, free school dinners, free tuition fees at college or Uni, free eye care and glasses, free prescriptions and various other benefits...
Total value of all benefits combined probably approaching £100,000 per annum which would require an income of around £148000 to create. About my salary as a senior consultant with years of experience and surgical skills in a central London teaching hospital
Indeed, Grandma was correct that her fertile daughter is the "breadwinner" for the family.
This is how the liberal politicians spend your taxes. When this generous programme was invented in the '60s, the Great Society architects forgot to craft an end date... and now we are hopelessly overrun with people who vote only for those who will continue to keep them on the dole.....
No wonder the UK is broke!
Don't forget to pay your taxes!!
There are a lot of “breadwinners”
depending on you!
http://www.express.co.uk/comments/view/454661
NO WONDER EUROPE IS NOW BANKRUPTED INCLUDING USA TOO.
NEXT WILL BE AUSTRALIA AND NZ. NOT TOO FAR AWAY, I THINK.
ONLY IN THE UK!
Family Bread Winners, state funded!
ANY WONDER THE UK IS BANKRUPT...!???
This is preposterous! A doctor told me that a woman in her late 20's came to the hospital today with her 8th pregnancy.
She told the first doctor she saw: "My mum told me that I am the breadwinner for the family." He asked her to explain. She said that she can make babies and babies get money from the State for the family. It goes like this:
The Grandma calls the Department for Work and pensions, and states that the unemployed daughter is not capable of caring for all of her kids. DWP agrees, and tells her the children will need to go into foster care.
The Grandma then volunteers to be the foster parent, and receives a cheque for £700per child each month.
Total yearly income:
£58,800 soon to become £67200 when the 8th one is born, tax-free and nobody has to go to work! In fact, they get more if there is no husband/father/man in the home! The brother does not count.
Not to mention free dental treatment, free housing, free council tax, free school dinners, free tuition fees at college or Uni, free eye care and glasses, free prescriptions and various other benefits...
Total value of all benefits combined probably approaching £100,000 per annum which would require an income of around £148000 to create. About my salary as a senior consultant with years of experience and surgical skills in a central London teaching hospital
Indeed, Grandma was correct that her fertile daughter is the "breadwinner" for the family.
This is how the liberal politicians spend your taxes. When this generous programme was invented in the '60s, the Great Society architects forgot to craft an end date... and now we are hopelessly overrun with people who vote only for those who will continue to keep them on the dole.....
No wonder the UK is broke!
Don't forget to pay your taxes!!
There are a lot of “breadwinners”
depending on you!
Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
They failed, period. So let's not do that, period.
Many year ago, I had a debate with a schoolmate. It was about achieving too much too quickly and leaving the mass of havenots behind (big gini).
We concluded that we must aim for the sky, Mars and beyond. We must seize all the initiatives and opportunities presenting at that time. Those who can achieve must do so, no matter how far the gap from the bottom 10% is. If we end up only on the moon or the mountain top, so be it. If we aimed at the mountains we might end up only on the hills and treetops.
The caveat is the rich must help the poor (fortunately, even buffet et al realised this), and we have the means to do it and we must have the will to do it. If we had plodded mediocrely, we will end up with a situation which I call the poor helping the poor. Make no mistake, had we achieved half of what we have today, there will still be the bottom 10% who needs help. The bottom 10% might change its character but it never disappears.
So, we ended up with problem of income disparity and we don't seem to have the political will to put the brakes on exploiting the low wage earners. This led to the suggestion of shock therapy to put things right. I have no doubt that the shock was not meant to be, but changes, yes.
The help extended to the poor must always follow the principle that nothing is for free and must include an element of self-help. We should only deviate from this in extreme cases. Society must decide what is meant by extreme and cast this in stone to prevent the slippery slide to welfarism.
Maybe we don't need euthanasia ... yet.
They failed, period. So let's not do that, period.
Many year ago, I had a debate with a schoolmate. It was about achieving too much too quickly and leaving the mass of havenots behind (big gini).
We concluded that we must aim for the sky, Mars and beyond. We must seize all the initiatives and opportunities presenting at that time. Those who can achieve must do so, no matter how far the gap from the bottom 10% is. If we end up only on the moon or the mountain top, so be it. If we aimed at the mountains we might end up only on the hills and treetops.
The caveat is the rich must help the poor (fortunately, even buffet et al realised this), and we have the means to do it and we must have the will to do it. If we had plodded mediocrely, we will end up with a situation which I call the poor helping the poor. Make no mistake, had we achieved half of what we have today, there will still be the bottom 10% who needs help. The bottom 10% might change its character but it never disappears.
So, we ended up with problem of income disparity and we don't seem to have the political will to put the brakes on exploiting the low wage earners. This led to the suggestion of shock therapy to put things right. I have no doubt that the shock was not meant to be, but changes, yes.
The help extended to the poor must always follow the principle that nothing is for free and must include an element of self-help. We should only deviate from this in extreme cases. Society must decide what is meant by extreme and cast this in stone to prevent the slippery slide to welfarism.
Maybe we don't need euthanasia ... yet.
Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
heh ah leong, you sure anot.he built singapore from scratch or he just built sg from somewhere?
if the british did not lay the foundation, you really think ah lee can really built from nothing to something?
if without all our forefathers working so hard, without everyone of us serving 2 yrs ns slave,who you think ah lee can depend sg defence from?
without all the rich culture from the 4 difference races we have here, try built singapore from scratch as what you say lor.
heh ah leong, you sure anot.he built singapore from scratch or he just built sg from somewhere?
if the british did not lay the foundation, you really think ah lee can really built from nothing to something?
if without all our forefathers working so hard, without everyone of us serving 2 yrs ns slave,who you think ah lee can depend sg defence from?
without all the rich culture from the 4 difference races we have here, try built singapore from scratch as what you say lor.
Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
ask mr lee go to syria or iraq and build their country to our standard la.since you so think highly of him.
but to be fair to mr lee, he did his part in building sg but not as what you said,he buikt sg from scratch and without any help or only
he built sg as in we own him a living.
ask mr lee go to syria or iraq and build their country to our standard la.since you so think highly of him.
but to be fair to mr lee, he did his part in building sg but not as what you said,he buikt sg from scratch and without any help or only
he built sg as in we own him a living.
Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
i remember many years ago in this forum, ppl adored the welfare scheme and was one of the reasons all flock to the west, now is proven this scheme cant hold water and is failing under it's own weight....
i remember many years ago in this forum, ppl adored the welfare scheme and was one of the reasons all flock to the west, now is proven this scheme cant hold water and is failing under it's own weight....
Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
you need a strongman with a clear man with a strong will and determination to build and maintain a country like Sing..see how the world is falling...look at india, they enjoy bull run for only 10 years and now corruption, scandals, policy flip flop has usher in the bear..look at greek, spain and next one will be china..
you need a strongman with a clear man with a strong will and determination to build and maintain a country like Sing..see how the world is falling...look at india, they enjoy bull run for only 10 years and now corruption, scandals, policy flip flop has usher in the bear..look at greek, spain and next one will be china..
Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
It's proven? How well are the poor in anti-welfare Sinkieland doing now compared to their counterparts in Sweden, Denmark, Germany? Bloody brainwashed Sinkie
It's proven? How well are the poor in anti-welfare Sinkieland doing now compared to their counterparts in Sweden, Denmark, Germany? Bloody brainwashed Sinkie
Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
What do you mean by "a country like Sing"? You mean a country with one of the highest public debt in the world at 100.79% of GDP?
What do you mean by "a country like Sing"? You mean a country with one of the highest public debt in the world at 100.79% of GDP?
Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
[QUOTE=Leongsam;967568]Of paramount importance is the need to alert ALL Singaporeans to the perils of providing welfare to those who purportedly have "fallen through the cracks".
People "fall through the cracks" for a reason and it's because they're either too dumb to know what a crack is or too blind to see them. Either way, providing them with money they haven't earned does nothing but generate bigger cracks and a larger number of blind idiots.[/QUOTE][/
I am a nobody, just a busy body for the poor peasants that we have been made into.
At least peasants had land to till,care and yield. What do we have, Leong?
We are nothing but dwellers in pigeon-holes.
Leongsam thou art lucky for thou had been a MP before
Thou made millions and today sit on many directorships
Thus thou hath lost thy humble direction and human touch.
Thou had forgotten the suffering and humiliation of thy brethrens - the masses.
Remember what hapened to Joseph at the hands of his brothers.
The same fate awaits ye (Leongsam)
I ain't any soothsayer.
But so far what I have said has seen the light of truth.
So Leongsam, you either repent now or face the wrath of whoever Is Above ye.
Thousand curses are upon ye and your loved ones.
[QUOTE=Leongsam;967568]Of paramount importance is the need to alert ALL Singaporeans to the perils of providing welfare to those who purportedly have "fallen through the cracks".
People "fall through the cracks" for a reason and it's because they're either too dumb to know what a crack is or too blind to see them. Either way, providing them with money they haven't earned does nothing but generate bigger cracks and a larger number of blind idiots.[/QUOTE][/
I am a nobody, just a busy body for the poor peasants that we have been made into.
At least peasants had land to till,care and yield. What do we have, Leong?
We are nothing but dwellers in pigeon-holes.
Leongsam thou art lucky for thou had been a MP before
Thou made millions and today sit on many directorships
Thus thou hath lost thy humble direction and human touch.
Thou had forgotten the suffering and humiliation of thy brethrens - the masses.
Remember what hapened to Joseph at the hands of his brothers.
The same fate awaits ye (Leongsam)
I ain't any soothsayer.
But so far what I have said has seen the light of truth.
So Leongsam, you either repent now or face the wrath of whoever Is Above ye.
Thousand curses are upon ye and your loved ones.
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Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
Why drag my innocent loved ones into this? It isn't their fault I'm a heartless prick? :oIo:
Why drag my innocent loved ones into this? It isn't their fault I'm a heartless prick?
:oIo:
Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
even the social liberal californian governor is proposing welfare reform to avoid bankruptcy of the great state....
http://www.dailyrepublic.com/usworld/california-pushing-more-welfare-recipients-to-work/
By Serena Enger
June 11, 2012
LOS ANGELES — Gov. Jerry Brown wants to shift the safety net protecting California’s most vulnerable residents
Pressured by a $16 billion budget deficit, the governor is proposing a major overhaul of the state’s welfare-to-work program with the strategy of slashing people’s benefits to motivate them to get jobs faster.
The move, if approved by the state Legislature as part of the 2012-13 budget package, would save $880 million, but beyond the savings, analysts say it represents a shift in the philosophy of how the Golden State helps its neediest residents.
“It’s a reversal of the state’s historic commitment to these families and children,” said Scott Graves, senior policy analyst with the California Budget Project. “It’s a very significant change.”
California is the national leader in welfare recipients. About 3.8 percent of state residents were on welfare in 2010, the highest percentage in the country. In fact, California houses about a third of the nation’s welfare recipients, while only housing one-eighth of the national population.
...[snip]
even the social liberal californian governor is proposing welfare reform to avoid bankruptcy of the great state....
http://www.dailyrepublic.com/usworld/california-pushing-more-welfare-recipients-to-work/
By Serena Enger
June 11, 2012
LOS ANGELES — Gov. Jerry Brown wants to shift the safety net protecting California’s most vulnerable residents
Pressured by a $16 billion budget deficit, the governor is proposing a major overhaul of the state’s welfare-to-work program with the strategy of slashing people’s benefits to motivate them to get jobs faster.
The move, if approved by the state Legislature as part of the 2012-13 budget package, would save $880 million, but beyond the savings, analysts say it represents a shift in the philosophy of how the Golden State helps its neediest residents.
“It’s a reversal of the state’s historic commitment to these families and children,” said Scott Graves, senior policy analyst with the California Budget Project. “It’s a very significant change.”
California is the national leader in welfare recipients. About 3.8 percent of state residents were on welfare in 2010, the highest percentage in the country. In fact, California houses about a third of the nation’s welfare recipients, while only housing one-eighth of the national population.
...[snip]
Re: Caring for the poor? This is what will happen if you pander to the needs of loser
No wonder most Stinkie peasant losers in this forum wanna migrate to Western countries. They can earn more money by not working in the West than working in Singapore. What they don't realize is that the welfare system itself is unsustainable.
Kudos to The PAP for a job well done! Thank you LKY for transforming Singapore from a 3rd world backwater to a 1st world country.
No wonder most Stinkie peasant losers in this forum wanna migrate to Western countries. They can earn more money by not working in the West than working in Singapore. What they don't realize is that the welfare system itself is unsustainable.
Kudos to The PAP for a job well done! Thank you LKY for transforming Singapore from a 3rd world backwater to a 1st world country.
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