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Mystery of the ATL quotation and Ng Kok Khim

scroobal

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Loyal
Here is a version from a chap that I met over coffee and who incidentally knows our world renown charity fundraiser and perennial homeless forummer.

Apparently long standing PAP cadre, CCC member and high profile sycophant Ng Kok Khim decided to engage in a bit of mental arithmetics with some of his fellow sycophants to show that the Managing Agent was working on a higher cost base and sought the quotation from ATL for comparison. The plan was to then ask AHPETC for their quote and to show Singaporeans that they could do it cheaper.

These sycophants prematurely told NEA which they had been using as their personal lobby group that they would do it and thus the email.

Then these part Machiavellians completely forgot their cunning plan and the weeks rolled on. They proceeded as usual to do their arrangements for canvas tentage coverage for each stall and left it at that.

On the day of the cleanup, the whole thing fell apart. The hawkers naturally became angry and our little machiavellians also forgot what they had done and thought they would join in the political mudracking.

The educated children of the hawkers became suspicious when the quotation emerged with Ng Kok Khim's name front and centre with the first sentence clearly indicating that he sought the quotation. The PAP Team and NEA which had been on this ride decided to do a bit of investigating when hawkers and their children became agitated.

Yes, the petition with no signatures even though the claim was that signatures will be provided on request bullshit made this a circus.

In all this, someone forgot to tell the Minister. And the only thing he is having with Low is not coffee but egg on his face.

WP is not completely innocent in all this. Rather than dealing with the hawkers who are their constituents, they chose to deal with a lobby group, the NEA and relied on an email. On day 1, in the first hour they should have known that no scaffolding had been erected but hawker stall had tentage in place for high level cleaning.

By the way, NKK is not your humble children's clothes shop owner. Go ask him how is his relationship with the hawkers.
 

wendychan

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don't put words in my mouth and accuse me..

when i say i am GOING TO BE homeless, i don't mean i am homeless, only you think so

when i give you my web site
www.yuffy.com
i am not sayng to pity me coz of my charity work

you are first class sick.

if you want to accuse, do it with facts
find me an instance, when i have said i AM homeless

unlike you i understand english
 

wendychan

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and i have never said in court documents as well, nor have i changed my tune from one court document to another

when i sign off on a court document, i don't commit perjury
 
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halsey02

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The whole episode is like a person or a group who were so used to having their spoon dipped in the 'broth', & tasting good quality cooked one for ages; suddenly found that, they could do do the 'tasting' anymore.

So, you have a disgruntled, displced 'soup taster' & company now out throwing a tantrum... looking for their friend 'trouble', ask ATL for a quotation hoping in doing so, will get their 'soup pot' back.

This is what we call, rub my back & I rub yours, by the way ATL is the cleaning agent for the opposition TC , so , we are getting a picture??

NEA should have known better, they too wanted to play, "huntum bola"..& got "humtum" in return, & worse, it was played on a rainy day & ball marks could be seen all over the clothing & they could not wash it off.

Their duty as an Authority is to government & administer , TC fail in their duty, check, collect evidence, warn the TC or even fine them & they can even have the authority remove & relieve them of their duties. But, instead they played "humtum bola" & even got their silly boss to play too.:p
 
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wendychan

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Here is a version from a chap that I met over coffee and who incidentally knows our world renown charity fundraiser and perennial homeless forummer.


and keep your version to yourself. don't have to drag my name into it..... asshole

i don't know this person you had coffee with if at all you had coffee with a human, not a figment of your imagination, or your master's bidding
 
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wendychan

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and if you want to play this know it game,
and carry tales
then pls carry this :

my lawyers fees already approx $100000
of which $55000 was spent this year.
once court finishes, i wont have much cash left, only you will think i am lying

hence i MAY BE HOMELESS SOON deepening on how court goes

YOU don't understand english


YOU can still understand $$$ for sure
 
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wendychan

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you want to sue me for lying? then bring it on
because i have NEVER said i am homeless now ASSHOLE


use your $$$ to buy yourself some english comprehension lessons
 
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wendychan

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Generous Asset
what i have said is i AM prepared to be a bankrupt to defend myself

and i still say it

and im not renegading on it
and i have also said that IF i am homeless, i plan to to live in the van
and i an not lying about that as well
 
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tanwahp

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Asset
Apparently long standing PAP cadre, CCC member and high profile sycophant Ng Kok Khim decided to engage in a bit of mental arithmetics with some of his fellow sycophants to show that the Managing Agent was working on a higher cost base and sought the quotation from ATL for comparison. The plan was to then ask AHPETC for their quote and to show Singaporeans that they could do it cheaper.

Your source is interesting but this part may not be accurate. ATL is a contractor for AHPETC and both are unlikely to come up with competing quotes. If there was a request, AHPETC can direct people to ATL. AHPETC does not issue quotations as it is a town management body and not a business.

If such a thing was true, it is more likely that the sycophants requested for a quote from ATL and then requested for quotes from other cleaning companies to show that AHPETC does not do a proper tender process. In the end this angle was not surfaced by the sycophants because either

1. ATL turned out to be cheaper than other companies
2. This issue surfaced, so they wanted to hide the fact that they requested for the quote and also ride on the new angle instead
3. They realized ATL is also contracted by other PAP TCs

Just speculations.
 
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wendychan

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Generous Asset
SB

you even had the ff ing gall to accuse me of lying when i post things online i want to give away

first class sick
 

wendychan

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Generous Asset
im all for different views but when a so called god cant even get his facts right before accusing WTF is going on?
 

wendychan

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Generous Asset
Unlike you who is going to face the music for being a disobedient citizen, I am rich enuff..no need pay master!

come sue me then, for being dsobedient

i don't mind spending the cash to defend myself
like i said, i can be a bankrupt no problem

but to sue me, you would have to reveal yourself

and definitely no hiding behind your mother in law
if you don't know what i mean, then come to court 19-21 nov
 
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ILovePAP

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Asset
come sue me then, for being dsobedient

i don't mind spending the cash to defend myself
like i said, i can be a bankrupt no probkem

you should just get lost from our prosperous Singapore.
this country is for growth and have no place for a Loser like you!
 

wendychan

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
you should just get lost from our prosperous Singapore.
this country is for growth and have no place for a Loser like you!
you mean you don't send people to elimate the losers?
im a loser who doesnt hide

but god SB will say, only non losers like him who hide have credibility,,, again english english tsk tsk tsk


i do knoe my typing is bad
 
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tanwahp

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
The whole episode is like a person or a group who were so used to having their spoon dipped in the 'broth', & tasting good quality cooked one for ages; suddenly found that, they could do do the 'tasting' anymore.

So, you have a disgruntled, displced 'soup taster' & company now out throwing a tantrum... looking for their friend 'trouble', ask ATL for a quotation hoping in doing so, will get their 'soup pot' back.

This is what we call, rub my back & I rub yours, by the way ATL is the cleaning agent for the opposition TC , so , we are getting a picture??

NEA should have known better, they too wanted to play, "huntum bola"..& got "humtum" in return, & worse, it was played on a rainy day & ball marks could be seen all over the clothing & they could not wash it off.

Their duty as an Authority is to government & administer , TC fail in their duty, check, collect evidence, warn the TC or even fine them & they can even have the authority remove & relieve them of their duties. But, instead they played "humtum bola" & even got their silly boss to play too.:p

The bottom line is that NEA seriously lacks EQ.

1. Denying that they have sent an email when they should realize that emails are very easy to expose. People can deny what they say, but they cannot deny what they write.

2. Releasing an appeal letter by MP Faisal on 511 but NEA referred to 538. Wrong market.

3. Releasing petitions addressed not to "NEA" but to "Editor" and without signatures. If you wanted to protect the signatories, you can release them with mosaic. Furthermore the petitions contain the same font and same writing style, showing instigation.

4. Releasing the quotation to prove that hawkers were asked to pay, but ended up showing the HA asked for the quote and landed Ng Kok Khim in bad publicity.

A row of own goals.
 
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