Yap Keng Ho - Please provide your background

[scroobal]

Any document filed in court or police report are public record, and public domain.

Who is to seek every person's permission to post it?

It was never filed in court. Its not a Police report. Get an adult to explain the background if you have difficulty grasping the issue.

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Scroobal

" Gate Crashing " might be a tad to far. U Yap has a long illustrious history whether you agree with it or not stretching back way before GE 2006. Granted he might have had differences with the present SDP or newbie activists as to "protesting" , granted certain individuals might have issues with his methodology or his fool hardiness, granted he might be like a blundering bull in a china shop, granted some people might have decided that he is past his sell by date as well new fresh blood have well new ideas etc and all that. The SDP has however in the form of the official leadership gone to jail with the guy , worked with the guy and he in his own weird way has helped them in ways ( logistically ) that even I can see and admire. ( Before Newbies.) Thus he has in his own small way been endorsed accepted or been sanctioned by them despite his occasional lapse.

Now that said and done. I do not for one see CSC CSJ and other SDP CEC members whilst adopting differing methods errr in the words of King Richard saying " Ohh Who Who shall rid me of this troublesome priest ( U Yap.) " nThey at least have the milk of human decency to while disagreeing with a fella, will not slime that fella on line and would not call someone they went to jail with a "gate crasher" or a " limelight stealer " I will disagree with him over many things including his insane and sometimes inaccurate postings, and yes in some form he has to clarify if he choses, but your legitimate questions have bought out a whole series of virulent low down personal attacks which are designed in my view to get rid of one troublesome priest.



Locke

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear GMS

There are righteous gate crashers and there are errrr PAP gate crashers and errr only the righteous gate crashers can determine who are the PAP agents. Man there must be a easier way to be a PAP agent then just going to jail.



Locke

 

[scroobal]

The SDP has however in the form of the official leadership gone to jail with the guy , worked with the guy and he in his own weird way has helped them in ways ( logistically ) that even I can see and admire. ( Before Newbies.) Thus he has in his own small way been endorsed accepted or been sanctioned by them despite his occasional lapse.
Locke

That I agree. Valid point.

 

[tommyh]

A valid point. But shouldn't this be applied to elected officials?

Yap's ranting and raving on an online forum is no different from you and I. But those who seek and are in official office should have their financial details in the public domain (IMHO). Trust but Verify

Anyway Yap is not running for office so he needn't be held to any higher standards.

Could you provide a resume of your background including your vocation and how you support yourself. Those who get into politics do that to make a judgement for people to decide to support or not to support you.

You have made numerous allegation and in some cases has nothing to do with the PAP. The Hindu temple embezelling charity funds is one such allegation.

You have also made a number of claims of representing political parties and political identities but you are not a member of any. In 2006, you attended a 2006 pre elections meeting of political party claiming to be a rep of SDP but was kicked out by all and the SDP CEC had no inkling of it. This year, you asked for those attending the Reform Party dinner to make reservations thru you but it turned out to be false. I hate to think how many names ended up with you. These are just examples.

In 2006, you claim that you wanted to contest 2006 elections but you did not.

So far you made numerous allegations including against parties not associated with the PAP such as the embezzlement of funds at the Mariamman Temple.

You never discuss policies, you never discuss programs, you never discuss anything, just making general allegations. Your fast is a farce and it just goes on and on.

It appears that you are damaging the image of the opposition and I understand that they wary of you and unsure of your intent or your background. We know where Chee, Chiam, JBJ, Jufrie etc come from, what they do and who they are etc.

We have no idea if you are a fireman, astronaut, IT consultant , what educational background etc.

All I know is that you are helping the PAP make opposition politics look silly and ridiculous.

ps. note that your fasting occurs when you put on weight. We call it dieting.

 

[scroobal]

A valid point. But shouldn't this be applied to elected officials?

Yap's ranting and raving on an online forum is no different from you and I. But those who seek and are in official office should have their financial details in the public domain (IMHO). Trust but Verify

Anyway Yap is not running for office so he needn't be held to any higher standards.

What about those who voluntarily go into public space, appear in the National press and who has been making statements on public issues, seeking public support but won't/can't run for office. Aren't you curious to find out that person's background.

Most Singaporeans tend to follow the rules and this seems to be outside the rules and we tend to be uncomfortable to raise it as an issue. This is where things fall between the cracks.

The logic would call for reasonable background information on anyone who seeks to influence public discourse at a level well above what a normal citizen would do.

As an example, you would not seek information about someone who just writes to the press on a public issue no matter how curious one is. Yap on the other hand is very much on the campaign trail but can't or does not want to take office.

 

[Chia Ti Lik]

Dear Goh Meng Seng,

I have already made my stand. So far you have said nothing new apart from contesting my POV that you are using Uncle Yap to get back at CTL and me.

It is clear that you are not attacking SDP CEC member, not attacking other activists, only attacking specific people in all your posts in this thread. Come on, don't take me for a fool, I can read between the lines.

The twist and turns here are so convoluted I think I shall refrain from furthering this line or argument.

I'll give you 2 reputation points for your post later. Just take it as a token electronic good will from me.

I need my lunch now. Oh god, after all the twist and turns I actually feel like pretzels.

E-Jay

Sir Knight

Alot needs to be done. You can rest after your entertainment needs are met and thereafter return to the fold.

A fighting unit needs soldiers who can move as one.

Ti Lik

 

[kakowi]

Based on the posts written, I gather most of you know each other. And it is reasonable to surmise that you would have tried to resolve the issue behind close doors. And failed to do so. Thus the public attack. Is this a reasonable summary?

The main issue appear to be:

(1) Mr Yap makes irresponsible remarks and refuses to be reined in;

(2) Thus the attempt to make him reveal his background.

For what? (A lot of reasons had been generated)

The true reason: So that there is now a basis for attacking him?​

Now I gather that most of you have political ambitions. Have ever think stop to think what sort of impressions you are giving to voters? Especially those voters who have no political ambitions, no political platform but sincerely wonder if the current situation would have been better if there are more non-PAP politicians?

The question is: having read what all of you have said, can the voters safely say, "You can make a difference to singapore's political life and thus our lives?"

I can't.

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Ti Lik



If and when our Oneunite2, our learned mongrel friend from the old sammny and boys decides to call you a "gate crasher" and a "PAP agent" then I suppose though we have our disagreements I will say you are neither. Perhaps that day will come and perhaps it will not. Internet jokes aside I hope you have been well and will defend those 30 charged in court with courage and fire from your fired up loins and that in time you will be defending not thirty but twenty thousands from the unfairness of the PAP.



Cheers


Locke

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Kakow

It would do to distinguish between the calls for transparency on the part of responsible forumers and the personal attacks meant to discredit.



Locke

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Sir Knight

Alot needs to be done. You can rest after your entertainment needs are met and thereafter return to the fold.

A fighting unit needs soldiers who can move as one.

Ti Lik

Dear Tilik,

LOL! I have my fair share of entertainment too with people calling Uncle Yap "coward", "gate crasher", "PAP agent", " stealing limelight"....whatever!

I think you got to be very careful from now on since you are not SDP member, people may just think that you are another "gate crasher" trying to "steal limelight"! This is very likely since you are on a very high profile venture, giving press statement on behalf on those activists right in front of TV camera. Uncle Yap did not appear on TV and was accused as "stealing limelight", I really cannot imagine what they will label you as!

Take care my friend, just be very careful of such people who will turn their back and bite you; if they could do it to others, they could very well likely do it to you!

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

The answer is definitely NO. Yap Keng Ho may even have drawn the Law Society into the fray, intentional or otherwise.

Its not a hint. He stated that in his posts. I am referring to the other parent and the other law firm. Did Yap get approval or clearence from them. Has he sought clarification from them. Has he even spoken to them. Like I said, he probably thinks that you are ok with it.
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[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Yes, I have found this to be curious.

Despite repeated statements in SDP website that clearly stated Yap had nothing in common with the party, it's the 154th PAP mouthpiece with an ulterior motive that had kept referring to agent provocateur Yap as SDP supporter.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Well then perhaps this then begs the question has the SDP acknowledged Yap Keng Ho as a supporter?

When and where in SDP website was this clarification made? People I am sure did not come to that conclusion from SPH. I think they got it from numerous post that Yap made on SDP events and the fact that SDP did not correct the perception.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Correct me if I am mistaken but I recall the civil matrimonial dispute document which Yap Keng Ho blithely posted in this forum was a LETTER, NOT a court document nor a police report. More importantly, this civil matrimonial dispute has NO bearing with respect to political matters. It was downright outrageous and presposterous of Yap Keng Ho to do such a thing. This is but yet another incident raising valid and legitimate questions as to Yap Keng Ho's character, integrity and credibility.

Any document filed in court or police report are public record, and public domain.

Who is to seek every person's permission to post it?

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Locke,

Local buffoon "Donnie Brasco" perhaps?

Btw, no disrespect intended but I think it was actually Henry II who uttered those famous words to Thomas Becket

Cheers

Dear Scroobal

" Gate Crashing " might be a tad to far.

Now that said and done. I do not for one see CSC CSJ and other SDP CEC members whilst adopting differing methods errr in the words of King Richard saying " Ohh Who Who shall rid me of this troublesome priest ( U Yap.) "
Locke

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Hi there,

No obligation to reply, but I am curious to know whether you were aware that Yap Keng Ho appeared to tout for you and Ravi at Sam's old Delphi site?

Cheers

Alot needs to be done.

Ti Lik

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Porifinio

I stand corrected as to the quote. :_)) Again not a " Donnie Brasco" but well opposition politics in Singapore tends to attract its fair share of passionate, angry and perhaps slightly insane in the membrane types.



Locke

 

[scroobal]

Based on the posts written, I gather most of you know each other. And it is reasonable to surmise that you would have tried to resolve the issue behind close doors. And failed to do so. Thus the public attack. Is this a reasonable summary?

The main issue appear to be:

(1) Mr Yap makes irresponsible remarks and refuses to be reined in;

(2) Thus the attempt to make him reveal his background.

For what? (A lot of reasons had been generated)

The true reason: So that there is now a basis for attacking him?​

Now I gather that most of you have political ambitions. Have ever think stop to think what sort of impressions you are giving to voters? Especially those voters who have no political ambitions, no political platform but sincerely wonder if the current situation would have been better if there are more non-PAP politicians?

The question is: having read what all of you have said, can the voters safely say, "You can make a difference to singapore's political life and thus our lives?"

I can't.

Quite a decent summary with some corrections to offer.

Not all parties that are actively involved in this exchange have a desire to run for office. Its something that Singaporeans tend to think as PAP has always ingrained in us that political discourse is only meant for politicians in a public formal setting as per Catherine Lim affair.

Just as you look at the ingredients label in a new product in a supermarket, you would do the same here. In most cases, you readily accept products that people, family and firends have used as you take it for granted that that they would have done their homework.

In Yap's case, his long association with Chee/SDP primarily and other parties in lesser form has given the impression that he had been "cleared" so to speak.

For some of us, his post about issues with SDP sparked a concern and the recent actions is indeed a cause for alarm. I now realise that no one truly knows him or there is no one prepared to disclose any info about him. 2 Chaps have vouched for his sincerity and nothing else. To me its no different to Ho Ching and Denise Tessonsohn vouching for Durai's sincerity.

Information leads to responsible decision such as putting value on comments made and the desire to follow that individual.

I know its hard for Asians in general to ask the tough questions and the presumption that an attack will follow seems to be a mindset. It certainly helps the PAP's doctored confucian based values where you do not question the mandate. The NKF was a classic example when less than 10 centres in a dollar went to the patient for years on end. Everyone including the then Min of Health gave his assurance in parliament when questioned. The medical profession knew but kept silent aned chose to create an alternative called KDF.

Maybe you can throw light on this chap.

 

[scroobal]

Correct me if I am mistaken but I recall the civil matrimonial dispute document which Yap Keng Ho blithely posted in this forum was a LETTER, NOT a court document nor a police report. More importantly, this civil matrimonial dispute has NO bearing with respect to political matters. It was downright outrageous and presposterous of Yap Keng Ho to do such a thing. This is but yet another incident raising valid and legitimate questions as to Yap Keng Ho's character, integrity and credibility.

I have a sneaky suspicion that no one has a clue the gravity of the issue.