Yap Keng Ho - Please provide your background

[Goh Meng Seng]

Dear Oneunite

What happened ? Accusing him of "stealing the limelight" did not work ? Are u trying to "anwar" him by throwing all sorts of accusations until one sticks ?



Locke

LOL! Locke, what a new phrase "anwar him"! Wow! This is a local term for "swiftboating"! LOL!

I really find it weird that someone actually wants to attack Uncle Yap and would go all the way to do it with such spikes! Calling him "coward"? I was thinking about you calling Uncle Yap as idiot, is bad enough; but someone actually calls him COWARD? LOL! Anything can happen in Singapore opposition politics, I guess!

Goh Meng Seng

 

[chinkangkor]

LOL! Locke, what a new phrase "anwar him"! Wow! This is a local term for "swiftboating"! LOL!

I really find it weird that someone actually wants to attack Uncle Yap and would go all the way to do it with such spikes! Calling him "coward"? I was thinking about you calling Uncle Yap as idiot, is bad enough; but someone actually calls him COWARD? LOL! Anything can happen in Singapore opposition politics, I guess!

Goh Meng Seng

If you have no answer, why sidetrack and talk nonsense?

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear One

I believe he is already a bankrupt ? So ok he is a "PAP agent" for being jailed for protesting illegally and not being jailed for calling LKY names . That has to be the mother of all illogic. So he goes to jail, insults the mata's at time, but still praises them at times. Whats wrong with that ?



Locke

 

[one2unite]

Dear One

Well he has gone to jail with Dr Chee more than once I must say. He has helped JBJ as much as he could and how do u know activists are distancing themselves from him ? He helps as much as he can. If Ejay CTL or La Mei are not SDP members one could also accuse them of gate crashing SDP events could you not ? Ok question if U Yap is a gate crasher then errr what does that make the individuals stated above if they are also not SDP members as far as I know.

WP and NSP and SPP might be to tame for Uncle Yap. He is the heck care and go to jail type and not the care and cry or change t shirt type. His hunger protest failed, so what ? He tried and it failed just as Dr Chee tried and failed.


Locke

JBJ doesn't want this fake Yap Keng Ho anymore near him. So is CSJ.

SDP members, supporters and activists stood together wearing identical t-shirts with a common purpose. But not this agent provocateur Yap. Looks like Yap's agenda is to spy and expose genuine protesters to his paymasters.

Why is Yap not seen at WP and NSP events?? Why only at the 'vociferous' opposition even though he says SDP is soft and not good enough for him!!

He was never on a hunger strike. The truth is nobody cared and he quickly abandoned it. It was all a big wayang!!

 

[one2unite]

Dear One

I believe he is already a bankrupt ? So ok he is a "PAP agent" for being jailed for protesting illegally and not being jailed for calling LKY names . That has to be the mother of all illogic. So he goes to jail, insults the mata's at time, but still praises them at times. Whats wrong with that ?



Locke

LKY has said he would go after bloggers whose identities are known. So, LKY has taken on Robert Ho and Gopalan Nair, but Yap Keng Ho is not touched despite his obscenities and name calling.

He gets 'jailed' with others but comes out praising the prison authorities. One wonders the type of treatment agent provocateur Yap gets inside!!

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

If you have no answer, why sidetrack and talk nonsense?

Dear chinkangkor,

There is no nonsense in my post, just some nonsense from someone else. Cheers!

Goh Meng Seng

 

[uncleyap]

Hi E-Jay,

I don't expect all to agree with my postings, I am doing in certain ways some are deliberately made unacceptable by some people indeed.

I adopt lots of Chinese / Taiwanese political culture, and I don't consider to get westernized values to appreciate what I am doing. In the past I might had been more general and made things more approachable by commoner or local peasants.

At this moment, I want to pound harder, and consider less. This is the atmosphere for this season. It may later change again. :p

It is a battle and we some time will step on the foot or our own friends in a battle that does not mean that we are enemies.

I can no longer stand it that SDP have so much petty considerations, almost like standing as nanny to baby-sit the activists. We are fighting the thugs and I don't believe in trying to look like a saint while doing this. I want the thugs to know clearly that I am no saint and can become a beast to cannibalize them when necessary. Too hypocritical I feel to have to maintain a noble stand or nice image, these things reminds me only of LEEgime's falsehood.

I made these observations for more than 20 years since Mr. JBJ 1st won Anson & old dog thief LKy started fixing him. Noble saints type like Mr. JBJ will only continue to be bullied by thug LKy. I decided that when I come out to fight, I promise that won't be a saint. I want the table to turn around 180 degrees.

When Dr CSJ got sued and kicked out of NUS he still remained compliance to LEEgime's rules. I saw that and felt he was going to be another noble victim for LKy to fix. I came out to help him in 2004 and in GE2006, he turned harder and fight with civil disobedience, however that is only a 90 degree turn. When old dog thief crapped out that same defamation shit out of his lame ass, Dr CSJ only refused to apologize but he let his CEC members apologized. The law suit ended up too little damage to famiLEE LEEgime and the small damages are not in time of GE2006, famiLEE buy time and dodged from NKF fire. WASTED! :(

It will take more aggressiveness to fix LKy than this. Standing on noble platforms will not help this. The civil disobedience is still not at an ideal balance. Fortunately, SDP is not relying just on the democratic electoral platform, otherwise when Dr. CSJ reached Mr. JBJ's age, he will still be bankrupt and all his members will also be disqualified from GE and LKy's Ass Loong son will still rule on in his father's way.

Effectively the civil disobedience route cut the lifespan of famiLEE LEEgime down by at least half, but this is still less than adequate to me especially. Singaporean civil disobedience is still too soft, even comparing with Malaysia. famiLEE LEEgime is a very weak opponent and very dumb. LKy is a pussy and a very soft one! :p We don't have to give them so much time and chances.

On silver platters famiLEE had delivered lots of golden opportunities for us to strike them down. Why are we giving them feather touch instead of lethal blows?

It had been all wrong that many of our reformist used a local standard to measure LKy and his LEEgime. Petty Kia-Su considerations and Kia-Si attitude had been applied by those fighting the LEEgime's lame bastards. The activist nanny policy is also a byproduct of this nanny state indeed. Please apply the world's standard on red dot!

It had already been years and it is time for our activists to be hardened and stop being babies. famiLEE LEEgime is the baby, lets take care of it!

 

[uncleyap]

It is for the people here to judge. I am very motivated and trying to discourage me is not possible with your skill.


Effectiveness is something both LEEgime & myself can feel it very clearly and doubtlessly.

 

[uncleyap]

Don't worry about true courage because that is left for the judgment day.

Lets look at true cowardness which is what famiLEE LEEgime displayed to the world and entertained the history.

 

[uncleyap]

Most of the bankrupts in this fight has more rights than people like yourself because these unjust bankruptcy earns these fighters their rights. It is prices they paid, it is a certified status awarded to honor fighters who seriously confront the famiLEE LEEgime's cowards. No little chicken can get awarded such status, and no money can buy this status.

Not just in Singapore, it is the same elsewhere, there is world recognition for fighter from everywhere detained, sued, bankrupted, imprisoned and killed by authoritarian regimes.

Only suckers like you considered paying tax to totalitarian as a form of honor.

 

[uncleyap]

What background? Why is there any obligation on my part to provide info that people demanded? How silly?


I don't need to be more careful.

Everyone have a their own version of definition of so called opposition cause.

I can not cater to suit everyone's I am sorry.

I welcome the morons to sue. They seems to know that they have nothing to earn except opening opportunities that I had awaited.

Political lawsuits are two way swords, it cuts both ways. The factors include weather one fear the consequences, and how much can one sustain, and how well can one use this sword. The famiLEE LEEgime picked their targets to sue and makes their own calculations. Out of like a hundred of fighters including the old Barisan Socialists e.g. Dr. Lee Siu Choo only less then a dozen got sued. Even Mr. Francis Seow didn't get sued.

Suing certain people won't even get famiLEE LEEgime's face a patch and might just cut more torn and cut-up. famiLEE hoped only to repair their decayed face with lawsuits, they won't be looking forward to get more damages.

So far only the noble type fighters got sued, don't you realize that?

When old dog thief sued people, he actually got himself into a position much more vulnerable than otherwise. He only calculated that his opponents won't use that opportunity to take him down further, before he instructs his doggy lawyers to act.

The last round he sued SDP, didn't get himself his usual good deal, do you know that?

Time had changed!

I hope that had not taught the old dog a new trick because old dogs are not supposed to have ability to learn new tricks. I hope he try to sue again indeed. Then there is a chance to have him fall harder flat on his face, that he got away only slightly hurt from the last round. I encourage the bastard old dog to try again, and try harder.

 

[uncleyap]

Because LKy is a very soft pussy coward, and he only go for those he think he can bully. Simple and straight answer for you.

 

[uncleyap]

LKy is an old dog thief defined by Chinese culture and it is easy to prove so.

Law can not bend this, and he can sue all he want and kangaroo all he want. All I care is he still have to take whatever I shaft at him in the end. It is a practical world and I am not one blinded by the illusions of this civilization.

People understand what LKy is and what Old Dog Thief means. Nothing is going to change this. LKy is corrupted coward and it is easy for everyone to see. It is a skill to shaft it at bastards properly so that they will take it correctly. Don't try this at home!

 

[rock^star]

Hey all, my first time...I just felt i had to make my little opinion heard.

I think Yap and GMS are clowns. Really man......

Yap seems to breed on hatred and spares little thought for consequences. Stay an activist pls, don't ever contest. While many Singaporeans are grappling with daily bread n butter issues, this is what you do.

GMS is petty and does a lot of name calling. WP can do without that. You were in the WP team contesting Aljunied, right? Now that I know you better, I'm gonna think twice if you are ever in that team again. I still think you are a friendly guy in your Jubilee PC shop though.

CSJ is another clown. His podcasts, speeches and articles always mention how he would continue to "fight for Singaporeans". He can't really gauge public sentiment, huh. Hasn't he seen that in the consistent low number of votes garnered in every election? If people want democracy, they vote Anwar. Singaporeans wants democracy, do they vote CSJ? NO.

The proper way would be to enter parliament and grow from there. But it would never happen for CSJ. Never, never ever.

Don't talking about Wuchang revolution. The parellels cannot be drawn here. China was under severe oppression for hundreds of years, country selling itself out to foreigners and the population is in poverty. It's easy to spark a fire and start a mass movement the country over but in Singapore, we haven't come to that stage yet. Just look at Msia, the people's unhappiness with BN is more than just skin deep, it runs to the bones. 51 years of their rule is enough and look where championing malay rights has brought them. Singapore, we haven't come to that stage yet.

Hitler gained power because he preached hatred at the right time. Yap? Just preaches hatred at all the wrong times.

Thanks for reading.

 

[Frankiestine]

L
I look FATTER than the police officer.

how can that be i thought we have one of the best police force in the world....hmmmm but then again if they can even allow a limp to outrun them then maybe it is time to trim some fats...

 

[scroobal]

Hi E-Jay,

I don't expect all to agree with my postings, I am doing in certain ways some are deliberately made unacceptable by some people indeed.

You need to stop evading the issues.

Here is a summary for people to consider and for you to respond if you like.

1) As it stands, no one knows you except for Lock and GMS. You have chosen not to clarify.

2) In 2006, in SBF, you claimed that you wanted to stand as an indepedent but changed your mind and mentioned speaking to JBJ. Were you a bankrupt at that time and therefore not eligible in the first place.

3) The position of bankrupcy has been raised again. Please clarify if you are one. If you are not one, then its good to clarify once and for all so people do not misconstrue wrongly.

4) If you are indeed a bankrupt, was it due to non-political reasons such as business etc or due political actions(no need to go into specifics unless its helps your cause). As a public figure and one seeking public support, these are relevant questions.

5) So far you have been attaching colourful adjectives to the despot and tyrant but you have not actually made any allegations about the old man and his clan. For instance, you started a thread in this forum on radiation leak at Changi Naval Base by a US Navy vessel but this has been carried by the press all over the world including here. This is a classic example of your type of "revelation" Things that don't hurt the Lee Clan nor does it sway a Singaporean to your line of thinking. If fact, Singaporeans are put off by these claims.

6) You got to stop dragging in name like Chee, JBJ, Lee Siew Choh, and characters that actually have an impact and whose background is reasonable known to the public.

7) In reference to your first sentence in this post about not expecting people to agree with your views, its more like we have no clue what issues you actually raised in the first place.


We are now at post #117 and you still have not made any attempt to clear the air.

 

[scroobal]

Hey all, my first time...I just felt i had to make my little opinion heard.
.

Welcome, every comment counts.

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear One

Honestly I can't understand your need to do an "anwar" or to disparage a man's aims or to discredit, even if you disagree with his methods. You speak as if you come from within the SDP so I will thus treat you as such. Its a small world really and people do talk. So what about your accusations of errr "gate crashing" and errrr " lime light stealing". m&d didn't stick , cat bit your toungue ? I really thought that this new forum would stop serving as a platform for personal political agendas and attacks but old habits die hard. If he has been disowned by the SDP, then let it be, why humiliate him by bringing it up ? Or perhaps he still has influence of sorts thus the personal attacks ? I mean if he is out of the SDP Loop, he is out there is no point flogging a dead horse, no petty advantage. The only real reason is I suspect he is not out of the loop hence the reversal to the old tried and tested tactics of clones.

U Yap

Coincidentally of course, these rather personal attacks on U Yap coincide with the emergence of certain individuals to the ranks of the SDP, who like Uncle Yap are not members but who do take part in protests. Coincidentally of course these same members will profess the utmost respect for U Yap even as they disagree with him. You have to wonder about the source of angst to accuse U Yap of errr "lime light stealing" and errr "gate crashing."

Coincidences and More Coincidences

Coincidentally of course these personal attacks mirror the personal attacks in the old forum which attack to a large degree annoynomously the following parties. Coincidentally of course these attacks do not deal with issues and discussions but are meant to humiliate and disparage and to create on line controversies through clones which are then picked up by the ST through friendly reporters. Coincidentally of course these attacks on the TOC mirror certain well known public positions taken by individuals complaining about not being reported which also coincide with the setting up of a political blog which also presently coincide with the totally uninmaginative and brainless setting up of something called "The Active Citizen"

1. Bob
2. GMS
3. Melvin
4. Locke
5. Jacys
6. WP
7. LTK
8. Sylvia Lim
9. Zheng Xi
10. Andrew
11. TOC
12. YSL


Coincidentally Yours

Locke

 

[LaMei]

With other people, even that line is not so clear sometimes.

E-Jay

My Dear Knight...

Remember our lunch with MS? He told us we are the doers and for that..we should not be wasting time on losers who are only capable at taking pot shots at those who dare to do what they don't dare.

UY has every right to his methods..we are in no position to say whether his is right or wrong..but 道不同不相为谋..to each his own..end of the day, we should be glad if our guns are pointing to the same direction..


for those who lack accomplishment and feel a cheap sense of achievement in taking pot shots at the activists who participate protests, just let them be..they don't even deserve your attention to refute them..action speaks louder than words..


This is a thread started by Scroobal asking UY to provide his background, but they use UY to take cheap pot shots at the rest and turn around accuse others of bringing old personal attacks to the new..and also the glaring revelations about The Active Citizens, which in the old forum was started by a troublemaker clone, it is truly indeed a series of unfortunate coincidences.

 

[NgEjay]

This is a thread started by Scroobal asking UY to provide his background, but they use UY to take cheap pot shots at the rest and turn around accuse others of bringing old personal attacks to the new..and also the glaring revelations about The Active Citizens, which in the old forum was started by a troublemaker clone, it is truly indeed a series of unfortunate coincidences.

Dear sis LaMei,

Who was the one with glaring revelations about The Active Citizens (not that I really care anyway)? Please do note that lockeliberal is on my Ignore List and my browser does not display his posts. In this whole thread I have no clue what he has written apart from a few quotes others have quoted when replying to him.

As for troublemaker clone, well that clone has revealed my PERSONAL SMS that I sent to lockeliberal too. Well I guess that clone must be a total genius, out of 26^160 different SMS text combinations, he managed to guess correct precisely which text combination I sent to locke. 26^160 is more than the number of neutrinos in the universe.

E-Jay