Will ST promote TOC if Choo is a SDP member / supporter ?

[Avantas]

Hi E Jay,

Your revelation has been very shocking ! Are you sure GMS use vulgar words on you ? I don't think he is serious lah, from what I know about him, he may be teasing you only, don't take it so seriously okay?

Dear Goh Meng Seng,

Frankly, you have no right to tell others not to put emotions into writing. Because you have done so liberally yourself.

You used a 4-letter vulgarity on me when I did not wear the protest T-shirt on 16 Sept 2007 Freedom Walk.

You also launched a personal attack on me because I did not get arrested with the rest of the TBT protesters on 15 March 2008.

If that is not emotional, what is?

As for what Avantas wrote, I hardly think it is emotional. Emotional is when you use vulgarities concerning events which even you youself did not participate in. THAT is emotional.

Look at Scroobal. He basically wrote the same thing or even more revealing stuff concerning ME but he has avoided personal vindictiveness in his own writing. This makes him more credible than yours which are filled with rhetorics.

Take a break. Its not going to be life and death for many people here with regards to whether I walk my talk or not. All of us formed our own conclusions after what is said and done.

E-Jay

 

[NgEjay]

Your revelation has been very shocking ! Are you sure GMS use vulgar words on you ? I don't think he is serious lah, from what I know about him, he may be teasing you only, don't take it so seriously okay?

It is in the grand archives of the old SBF. He said my actions were "fucked up". Unfortunately Walt Howe has classified SBF as an adult forum and the search no longer works beyond 3 months as indexing of threads has been discontinued. My delphi plus nick is useless in retrieving the thread.

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Avantas and Clones

Ahhh so finally your whole hearted worship and admiration of that Kim Jong Ill look alike comes to the front and any pretense at comparison between the TOC and Talking Cock or Mr Brown have been stopped. That is you is it not, unleashing your learned mongerels from that old sammy the boys, to let slip your clones or your dogs of war in character swiftboats.'

GMS-old sammyboy. " Threats of I know what you did last summer in Tampines with another women, you married man you."

Andrew-old sammyboy-" I know where you stay you purveyor of porn you."

Avantas New Sammyboy-" I know what Remy did last summer in school, how he is hated how arrogant he is but can't even get the address right. "

All in all you can't help but get personal and that is so reflective of the old samyboy and the horrendous personal attacks

WP old sammyboy-" Tool of the PAP. a PAP approved opposition, PAP apologists, lets stick flyers , lets create the wayang party press

TOC old sammyboy= Tool of WP because Andrew was a WP member which morphed into a tool of the PAP accusation please refer to the Wayang Blog

TOC new sammyboy- Tool of PAP please refer to wayang blog. Remy wants to be a ministar even though he has not even graduated YET


I think all is clear about who the attacks benefit and the political agenda behind it which will of course happens coincidentally with the launch of something called " The Active Citizen "



Locke

 

[Avantas]

Dear Locke,

In all honesty, I really don't know what the hell you are talking about !

Are you all right ?

Dear Avantas and Clones

Ahhh so finally your whole hearted worship and admiration of that Kim Jong Ill look alike comes to the front and any pretense at comparison between the TOC and Talking Cock or Mr Brown have been stopped. That is you is it not, unleashing your learned mongerels from that old sammy the boys, to let slip your clones or your dogs of war in character swiftboats.'

GMS-old sammyboy. " Threats of I know what you did last summer in Tampines with another women, you married man you."

Andrew-old sammyboy-" I know where you stay you purveyor of porn you."

Avantas New Sammyboy-" I know what Remy did last summer in school, how he is hated how arrogant he is but can't even get the address right. "

All in all you can't help but get personal and that is so reflective of the old samyboy and the horrendous personal attacks

WP old sammyboy-" Tool of the PAP. a PAP approved opposition, PAP apologists, lets stick flyers , lets create the wayang party press

TOC old sammyboy= Tool of WP because Andrew was a WP member which morphed into a tool of the PAP accusation please refer to the Wayang Blog

TOC new sammyboy- Tool of PAP please refer to wayang blog. Remy wants to be a ministar even though he has not even graduated YET


I think all is clear about who the attacks benefit and the political agenda behind it which will of course happens coincidentally with the launch of something called " The Active Citizen "



Locke

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Dear Goh Meng Seng,

Frankly, you have no right to tell others not to put emotions into writing. Because you have done so liberally yourself.

You used a 4-letter vulgarity on me when I did not wear the protest T-shirt on 16 Sept 2007 Freedom Walk.

You also launched a personal attack on me because I did not get arrested with the rest of the TBT protesters on 15 March 2008.

If that is not emotional, what is?

E-Jay

Dear Ejay,

My goodness! You have third eye or what? LOL! When did I 4 letter vulgarity on you in SBF? And I lauched a personal attack on you because you did not get arrested with TBT protesters?

You are well known to sprout nonsenses with mere speculations. Anyhow accuse people of mischievous when you don't even have proof of any sort! And no matter what, whatever apologies you made over email really means nothing to me, it seems.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Avantas]

Dear Meng Seng,

I find it hard to believe you use vulgarities, perhaps there is a misunderstanding somewhere ?

What email apology are you talking about ?

Dear Ejay,

My goodness! You have third eye or what? LOL! When did I 4 letter vulgarity on you in SBF? And I lauched a personal attack on you because you did not get arrested with TBT protesters?

You are well known to sprout nonsenses with mere speculations. Anyhow accuse people of mischievous when you don't even have proof of any sort! And no matter what, whatever apologies you made over email really means nothing to me, it seems.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Dear Avantas,

Well, as far as I am concerned, I do not reveal details of people's private email. But its just an apology from Ejay for making accusation against me for nothing, that's all.

Goh Meng Seng

Dear Meng Seng,

I find it hard to believe you use vulgarities, perhaps there is a misunderstanding somewhere ?

What email apology are you talking about ?

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

It is in the grand archives of the old SBF. He said my actions were "fucked up". Unfortunately Walt Howe has classified SBF as an adult forum and the search no longer works beyond 3 months as indexing of threads has been discontinued. My delphi plus nick is useless in retrieving the thread.

Dear Ejay,

No excuse here. If you have made a complain to Walt Howe, you will have to send him the link. If you have sent him the link, it will be in your email records. Just provide them.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[NgEjay]

My goodness! You have third eye or what? LOL! When did I 4 letter vulgarity on you in SBF? And I lauched a personal attack on you because you did not get arrested with TBT protesters?

I am not going to spend time arguing with you over this. You posted your personal attacks on me just a couple of weeks ago. I wouldn't bother to rehash them. If you think my comments are unjustified, so be it. I am not going to explain something that happened only a FORTNIGHT ago, and which everyone here can easily retrieve.

As for your vulgarity used on me last year, NO, I DID NOT COMPLAIN TO WALT HOWE, SO DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH AND SAY I DID IT BECAUSE I DID NOT.

E-Jay

 

[NgEjay]

I find it hard to believe you use vulgarities, perhaps there is a misunderstanding somewhere ?

Goh Meng Seng used the words "fucked up" on me last year, in connected with Sept 16 Freedom Walk. But never mind about that, if he genuinely does not recall, so be it. It is just a 4-letter word, no big deal.

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

I am not going to spend time arguing with you over this. You posted your personal attacks on me just a couple of weeks ago. I wouldn't bother to rehash them. If you think my comments are unjustified, so be it. I am not going to explain something that happened only a FORTNIGHT ago, and which everyone here can easily retrieve.

As for your vulgarity used on me last year, NO, I DID NOT COMPLAIN TO WALT HOWE, SO DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH AND SAY I DID IT BECAUSE I DID NOT.

E-Jay

Dear Ejay,

I will make your job easier. Here's the links of ALL my postings here so far:

http://www.sammyboy.com/search.php?searchid=63604

Please tell me which post did I "attack you"! Oh please, don't just make an accusation and then run away like that. It has become very typical of you lately.

You made an attack on Uncle Yap's credibility in that thread on Uncle Yap. I am simply making comparisons, at most, you could say I am criticizing you. "ATTACK"?

Do you have double standards or not? You attack Uncle Yap but others cannot criticize you in return? Well, I did not even mention any names! It was you who admitted yourself in such a foolish way!

You and your ilks have always insisted others to provide "proof" of what they say about the ging gang. You have made a claim about me without even able to provide a proof of it. So be it.

It has become pretty consistent in you; DOUBLE STANDARDS. Well, what is new? I have already said this about you two years ago, DOUBLE STANDARDS.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Goh Meng Seng used the words "fucked up" on me last year, in connected with Sept 16 Freedom Walk. But never mind about that, if he genuinely does not recall, so be it. It is just a 4-letter word, no big deal.

Oh, no big deal? LOL! And after talking so much things about complaining to Walts, you say you did not complain to him?

Sometimes I really wonder when should I believe you, really.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Kakowi,

Having been a keen observer of local politics for along time and LKY and PAPs in particular, I have learnt never to disregard the power of CO-OPTION used and manipulated by the incumbent government. Egs. Tommy Koh, Chan Heng Chee, Ho Kwon Pin, Walter Woon, Philip Jeyeratnam, Janadas Devan, Vivian Balakhrisnan, Raymond Lim etc.

Cheers

The other possible scenario is the one that is currently bandied about in the various posts:

(1) he is building an alternative blog, one that will have the same impact in influence as in malaysiakini

(2) having built the blog and shown his political masters his abilities, he will then be invited to join the next GE as a candidate

There could be other scenarios as we are in the realm of conjectures.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Locke,

Being the kaypoh that I am, can you provide me with the link?

Cheers

I think all is clear about who the attacks benefit and the political agenda behind it which will of course happens coincidentally with the launch of something called " The Active Citizen "


Locke

 

[myjohnson]

Money, money , money, it's a rich man's world. (abba)

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Porifirio

Not yet up yet but soon to be announced :_)) Akan Datang. I would bet my bottom dollar on its launch soon enough.


Locke

 

[Avantas]

Another figment of your imagination, perhaps ?

TOC is a unique PAP project. It won't be replicated elsewhere.

Dear Porifirio

Not yet up yet but soon to be announced :_)) Akan Datang. I would bet my bottom dollar on its launch soon enough.


Locke

 

[Avantas]

Stop bickering, both of you! It's only a small matter.

Let's not fall into the trap set by the PAP mole here - the one who keeps defending and promoting TOC.

Oh, no big deal? LOL! And after talking so much things about complaining to Walts, you say you did not complain to him?

Sometimes I really wonder when should I believe you, really.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[myjohnson]

Why so quiet in this section of the kopitiam hah? See the same few customers here all the time. Even brother zhihau is sitting in the backroom. Anybody knows the whereabouts of brother Scrooball?

 

[NgEjay]

Stop bickering, both of you! It's only a small matter.

Let's not fall into the trap set by the PAP mole here - the one who keeps defending and promoting TOC.

I agree, it is a small matter. I am used to insults and personal attacks. It is just that it should be PAP members who want to do me in, not fellow Opposition members or supporters.

As for promoting TOC, frankly, should we care?

Look at SDP's web site. No one is here promoting it. Yet today, SDP's web site has twice as many hits per day as TOC.

SDP has never tried to be everything to everybody. What SDP has done is to frame its agenda clearly, and then live by it as faithfully and as robustly as possible. That is why SDP was awarded the best political site hit-wise and today attracts the most traffic out of the major Singapore political websites.

SDP does not have a team of writers who need to consult each other and go through several rounds of approval before anything is posted. Yet their articles are well written, factually accurate to within reasonable limits, and to the point. SDP's site also makes ZERO apologies about the fact that they are opposed to PAP, 101% opposed to PAP.

That is all I have to say about this.

E-Jay