Why was Kwa Geok Choo so nice to him

[chowcheebye]

Why kind of hairstyle is that for a lawyer?

I had a fright when I saw RAMSETH, thought his ghost was posting about another ghost Gecko

 

[chowcheebye]

He doing th real estate part is it?

Does HDB ring a bell?

So does that mean his school fees was paid with Sinkies HDB conveyancing fees??

 

[halsey02]

Hey Sis

Don't take this personally. The venom is not meant for your father but for the Lee family for what they did to others. You are lucky to see your father daily albeit late in the day. This vindictive bastard incarcerated a man for 32 years, longest political prisoner in modern history. While his wife was nurturing your father's budding career, his former associates were detained without trial for decades. I know of one chap whose father was banished to Malaysia and he was raised by his mother singlehandedly because of the old man. He was not the only who did not see their father.

By the way, its a criminal offence to go on strike in Singapore. If you not believe me, give your father a call.

When the MRT was going to be launched, couple of the newly trained drivers decided to go on strike as they felt their pay was too low. Someone tipped off the authorities and the ring leaders were swiftly arrested and thrown into CID lock-up. The strike did not even begin. This is not Australia. This is Singapore. Your father was nutured by the tyrant's wife.

Here is a bit of advice. Go back to your possum filled Australian house, live with your redheaded boyfriend and don't tell a soul that as a child your family income came from conveyancing fees that was many times more that it is in Australia for public housing leased for 99 years. Ever heard of coveyancing fees for public housing and that only one firm had it. Its no different to the illgotten gains that standover guys from the Carlton Crew make in Melbourne.

Please don't preach us anything if you do not know the history of the firm that your father is partner of or where your childhood pocket money came from. If you knew, believe me, you would be very very quiet. And the Carlton Crew were always nice to their families. If you have no idea about Carlton Crew, ask that boyfriend of yours.

How about we all, who contributed to the wealth of the FIRM, through paying conveyance fees to one & only FIRM?; which in return contributed to her father who beget the child, who benefited from all those who through their blood, sweat & tears paid the fees.

Have we not entitled to be be bitter?, on whichever side of the fence we are on, there will be winners & looser & whiners too. What is important, there must be equality & fairness in making money out of people, if not, the other side of the fence, will "bay at the full moon, and is out for your blood".

 

[cass888]

Talk rubbish. L&L never did conveyancing for HDB. That is another opposition FABRICATION about the PAP. L&L conveyancing department is so big time, they would not do a $100k terrace in the days you're talking about. And your $1 million condo is not even worth their attention.

As LHD would say: DON'T TALK COCK!

How about we all, who contributed to the wealth of the FIRM, through paying conveyance fees to one & only FIRM?; which in return contributed to her father who beget the child, who benefited from all those who through their blood, sweat & tears paid the fees.

Have we not entitled to be be bitter?, on whichever side of the fence we are on, there will be winners & looser & whiners too. What is important, there must be equality & fairness in making money out of people, if not, the other side of the fence, will "bay at the full moon, and is out for your blood".

 

[halsey02]

Talk rubbish. L&L never did conveyancing for HDB. That is another opposition FABRICATION about the PAP. L&L conveyancing department is so big time, they would not do a $100k terrace in the days you're talking about. And your $1 million condo is not even worth their attention.

As LHD would say: DON'T TALK COCK!

I paid for this when I bought my HDB you think I am a numbskull? , the next purchase, I could engaged my own or choose from a list approved by HDB, thatw as when HDB changed the regualation after much "grumbling"... I grew up with the PAP, I don't talk nonsense or make hearsay accusations... I respect them as much as I disdain them... just love to hate them & hate to love them!

 

[chowcheebye]

Talk rubbish. L&L never did conveyancing for HDB. That is another opposition FABRICATION about the PAP. L&L conveyancing department is so big time, they would not do a $100k terrace in the days you're talking about. And your $1 million condo is not even worth their attention.

As LHD would say: DON'T TALK COCK!

hey clinton666....you are the ignoramus, long long time ago when you were still a sperm swimming inside your father's balls, the whole country already know conveyancing was given to 2 firms L&L and D&N. Then JBJ and CST questioned this practise in parliament and they are forced to let other firms share the cake.

 

[hockbeng]

Talk rubbish. L&L never did conveyancing for HDB. That is another opposition FABRICATION about the PAP. L&L conveyancing department is so big time, they would not do a $100k terrace in the days you're talking about. And your $1 million condo is not even worth their attention.

As LHD would say: DON'T TALK COCK!

All housing agents back then knew about this.

Just like many pple were already talking about the practices at the NKD/CHC many years before they were caught.

Dont be an idiot!

 

[voidable]

No I do know what you mean about forumer. But tell me, would Any of you stand by and have people put up a bad photo of your parent online and then insult it and just shrug it off? I think most children defend bad parents but from what I know accusing all L and L members to be evil is quite extreme! Dad started as a clerk in Lee and Lee, and he didn't even know what kind of company it was when he was 17. He didn't know the very first person who interviewed him was Mrs Lee herself. I would challenge of you which of you can smile if I put up a photo of your mum and said she looked like a pekingese and blamed her for her organizational corruption. Hello, I bet you work for companies that have some sort of corruption or dysfunction too and you're angry about it. The individual does not necessarily represent the company.

Ask your parents. We are too young to remember but they remember Singapore to be some kind of shithole. My dad said he never imagined the grand buildings then. I don't know if you realize but it must be a fricking difficult job to run a country. Can I? Can you? Look at Australia as the perfect example. Kevin Rudd was doing well and made the right policies : tax the fricking rich billionaire miners! He was kicked out of parliament and now Australia is lanckering under a female prime minister all distraction no good solutions who instead allowed the billionaires to buy over forests and destroy infrastructure. Don't think Singapore is the only one with problems. Which country worldwide now doesn't have a gabillion ones? Glad you're not Greece right now? Or Argentina with only 50% employment rate? I heard many cities, such as Madrid is so expensive that the young Spanish take two hours train ride to get to work from the surrounding countryside every day!

Why is Singapore such an angry country? I fairly believe its not just the government you're blaming. I don't know if Singapore will be better without the PAP since people are so diehard to vote them out, but I don't know how SDP and WP would fair to be honest! Maybe they'd be good: but one things for sure... 4.5 million people in a land so small: houses and cars shall never be cheap! At least in Australia if ur poor u can live very very very deep into Central Australia away from major cities, which is still shit but at least something. Think about it. Can you ever control Singapore's lack of space? It's pure claustrophobia.

The way I can tell you're pointing fingers unfairly is you expected as his child I would be some bespectacled nerd with a scholarship. Far from that. I am the only member of my family who decided to go Australian, fairly because at 18 I was rebellious and wanted to pursue an organic lifestyle. To date Australia is the right place for me because I am a fairly country girl. My boyfriend is the son of a large irrigation farmer. My dad did not decide that I should move there, my brother will prob only want to be here a few years just to study agriculture and science in uni. As I said, I am nothing like a PAP drone. I stay well away from cities, brands etc and I believe in living inexpensively, being a vegetarian, planting my own greens.

And so rests my point! I take nothing personally hereonwards I know people are frustrated. I live with South Americans and they are ANGRY! Their country is corrupt everywhere! I think Singaporeans, if you're so unhappy win the people's vote over the PAP and then get the new government to make the decisions you want "democratically". It may work, it may not work, it may collapse the delicate infrastructure and stability Singapore has so relied on for so many years. If you want to do it! Stop pointing at people like my dad, who really is quite a dear if you get to know him. He's a huge nerd who spends all his freetime reading about culture and histories. Please, if he was so capitalistic he wouldn't raise the world's biggest anti capitalist and hippy me.

 

[cass888]

All the housing agents TALKED about this. Ask if any of those sons of bitches ever stepped into the LnL office.

Speak to anyone in LnL (including the two or three breakaway groups) about this and they'll stare at you in horror at the thought that they'll do consider this low level work in LnL.

All housing agents back then knew about this.

Just like many pple were already talking about the practices at the NKD/CHC many years before they were caught.

Dont be an idiot!

 

[cass888]

Don't fucking make up stories. There were no private lawyers used for HDB transactions until private bankers were allowed to provide financing. I've bought and sold two HDB flats which were dealt with by sultry legal-officer at HDB.

I paid for this when I bought my HDB you think I am a numbskull? , the next purchase, I could engaged my own or choose from a list approved by HDB, thatw as when HDB changed the regualation after much "grumbling"... I grew up with the PAP, I don't talk nonsense or make hearsay accusations... I respect them as much as I disdain them... just love to hate them & hate to love them!

 

[voidable]

Perhaps you are correct. I really don't know. About the conveyancing. With an open mind I accept perhaps this is true. But don't point the finger so readily. This is the first time I've ever heard of it. I however know my father is not capable of corruption he's always been very honest with his dealings and he always tips people and we donate to World vision Australia child sponsorship. He supports RSPCA and other projects. For goodness sake, don't fault a man who grew up so poor he couldn't afford toothpaste for wanting to give it to his children.

I have messaged a few of you because I have my own testimony that you might find interesting regarding your case. I have always been a true blood 70s hippy and disliked capitalism immensely.

To once more explain to you why you are totally pointing the wrong fingers, as I have mentioned, I left home at 18 and struggled through uni paying it off myself through the Aussie Hex debt system. I have lived in many cheap houses with all sorts of strange people and even some unfortunately under substane influence and as I said, my car is 1986 same age as me. Don't accuse me of living off riches I wear only Cotton on clothing and the only branded item I own is a tiny mango dress and a second hand prada an ex housemate gave me. I buy all my clothes from Op shops in australia like Savers or cheap knitted jumpers. Or even Woolworths. As I said, I am quite a hippy and I don't believe in capitalism, brands etc. I am into organic living and plant my own vegetables. The generation corruption bit is true: I can point a finger and go: Hey Singaporeans, which of you has bothered to try to save the environment? I heard Singapore uses the most plastic bags worldwide per head of population! Guess what, future generations are doomed too!

 

[halsey02]

Don't fucking make up stories. There were no private lawyers used for HDB transactions until private bankers were allowed to provide financing. I've bought and sold two HDB flats which were dealt with by sultry legal-officer at HDB.

To sum this up, I was not born in 2012! period!

 

[wikiphile]

I believe I am saying it in a very nice way instead of any of you who would be hopping mad at someone calling your father a dog.

My father is a nobody, please call him that. Your father well, is well a recipient of favors from Singapore's most beloved family. Enough said

I know what you want to say: don't hate the player hate the game

 

[voidable]

I did not choose how I was born or who my parents are. Any of you could have been me too. The difference as I said is I live without financial aid from my parents and in fact have a very humble life living of a farm in Australia. I even fix my own beaten up 25 yr old car.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

voidable, your dad was a royal dog...a royal pet......take heart than in the hierarchy of things he ranked much higher than any ordinary peasant.
so you are a royal puppy..........congrats.
if you want to sugar coat it then okay.......your dad's role was akin to that of a high -ranking personal eunuch in the imperial court serving the Empress.

happy with the truth?

 

[halsey02]

No I do know what you mean about forumer. But tell me, would Any of you stand by and have people put up a bad photo of your parent online and then insult it and just shrug it off? I think most children defend bad parents but from what I know accusing all L and L members to be evil is quite extreme! Dad started as a clerk in Lee and Lee, and he didn't even know what kind of company it was when he was 17. He didn't know the very first person who interviewed him was Mrs Lee herself. I would challenge of you which of you can smile if I put up a photo of your mum and said she looked like a pekingese and blamed her for her organizational corruption. Hello, I bet you work for companies that have some sort of corruption or dysfunction too and you're angry about it. The individual does not necessarily represent the company.

If he was my dad, I would have defended him, for he is my DAD, I would be proud of him, that is natural. But many of us don't really bother where, what & how or parents do, to bring home the 'bacon'. Our concern is we get our allowance, get to live the life we expect from our parents and we are used to ; a house with a garden, a room to call our own, our pets etc, our servants to clean & cook & the kebun to mow the lawn, that is life.

This is what I had said "Have we not entitled to be be bitter?, on whichever side of the fence we are on, there will be winners & looser & whiners too. What is important, there must be equality & fairness in making money out of people, if not, the other side of the fence, will "bay at the full moon, and is out for your blood".

The point is not he worked for the FIRM of the land, working long & hard, whether he is 'loved' by his colleague or not for he is the 'blue eye' boy of the boss or not, is that we will naturally feel that, indirectly he gained from working for the FIRM, in which many of us, openly or discreetly will be opinionated.

You have the right to defend your dad, for you have benefited from him, we have a right to cast a wary eye with the FIRM, I am sure the anger is not towards him, but towards the FIRM. Unfortunately in this day and age of the internet, what is usually spoken , hush , hush, can be openly put up & opinion will form as fast as we breathe.

You have that right & we too, for can't live a life that we expect people to love us, or in that case your dad, so live & let live. Your right to set, what is right, but mindful, we still have to right to say, what we think.

 

[voidable]

Fair enough I don't know about the firm. Nothing. I don't know if you are correct or is this fabricated to draw up bad sentiment. But I must have anti capitalistic sentiment from somewhere inherently. I have never been attracted greatly to huge wealth. In my eyes my father is always good of course. Don't fault me for that.

 

[leetahbar]

if i am a pap dog,and all the riches falling into my lap, and my children have the best scholarships. I also sing praise to the late PM wife.

I can perfectly understand his sadness. i really do.

probably after her demise, all the regular goodies would be halted.

 

[blueblobster]

I did not choose how I was born or who my parents are. Any of you could have been me too. The difference as I said is I live without financial aid from my parents and in fact have a very humble life living of a farm in Australia. I even fix my own beaten up 25 yr old car. Please shutteth uppeth I bet half the people posting here are doing an Asian thing and still living with their parents.

You are not very smart are you?

Are we supposed to be impressed that you are a tree hugging hippie who fixes her own car or volunteers in Sudan? Even this is a non- too subtle way of showing off. You CAN AFFORD to choose to live poor and experiment with alternative lifestyles because you are NOT poor. Get real (and while at it, get a brain). You seemed to have missed the point entirely.

And your last line reeks of elitism and rejection of your Asian roots. And that is precisely why people like you and your dad are being attacked and despised. If it is indeed an Asian thing to live with parents like you claim, why are you mocking it? Because people like you are totally out of touch with reality. Even your defense of your dad is 90% about you.

I suggest you "shutteth uppeth" until you learn to use the gift called thinking. The more you try to defend your dad, the more you paint him as an evil, ugly pappy dog. The irony is he could well be the nicest guy in the world until you came in with your elitist nonsense.

 

[chowcheebye]

fwah blueblobster, i damn impressed with your crushing intellectual prowess