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why do the opposition parties not boycott the obviously unfair elections in singapore

Hakka Tiow

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Yah, very true! When you have a dynastic monarchy! Maybe it's a facade for international eyes?
 

scroobal

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i m wondering why. PAP owns Singapore, so what is the point of elections
Barisan Socialis boycotted and PAP laughed all the way to the bank. I am sure PAP will be delighted if a boycott takes place.

Half-wits are people who genuinely think they acted indepedently when the outcome actually serves the needs of their adversaries.

Notice how Yaw Shing Leong voted for the PAP when offered a choice between SDP and PAP. Thats why its beneficial for the PAP to let SDP remain as a political party. Its in their interest. Other political parties will not contest to avoid splitting of votes.
 

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i m wondering why. PAP owns Singapore, so what is the point of elections
That's exactly what the pap would like to happen.
 

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don't boycott, then how? showcase to the world we have democracy here? but do we have democracy? or its just authoritarian govt system in disguise?
 

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so, 5 years after 5 years, we just dancing on the string, helping the PAP to showcase to the world we have democracy here which its just authoritarian govt system in disguise, that make sense?
 

Hakka Tiow

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Bro Char, don't use vulgar language, ok? Try to follow the PAP examples like, 'charge in court", "defamation", "lawsuits", "ISA", illegal assembly", "gutter politics", "dishonesty", "psychopathic", "conduct prejudicial to good public order", and all the words of a Gentleman Politician!
 

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so, 5 years after 5 years, we just dancing on the string, helping the PAP to showcase to the world we have democracy here which its just authoritarian govt system in disguise, that make sense?

You think the world will care if Singapore does not have democracy? You think USA will really give a damn about democracy here when Singapore had always been one of USA's strongest unofficial ally in South East Asia?

I have said that you have a very simplstic mindset, you have again proven so.
 

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You think the world will care if Singapore does not have democracy? You think USA will really give a damn about democracy here when Singapore had always been one of USA's strongest unofficial ally in South East Asia?

I have said that you have a very simplstic mindset, you have again proven so.

Doesn't matter. The GE is a farce. A sham. No point participating in it. The PAP had tweaked the system out of shape, GE is tilted in favor for the PAP. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER FOR WHOM, THE WAYANG. ITS STILL A WAYANG. NO POINT HELPING THE PAP TO LOOK GOOD.

and btw, u don't know shit. so stop pretending u know it all.
 
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scroobal

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Doesn't matter. The GE is a farce. A sham. No point participating in it.

Barisan disappeared into thin air for the same silly line of reasoning. Singaporeans paid a price for 18 years before some brave and insightful residents of lower income consitutency had the temerity, the guts and the intelligence to vote for an opposition candidate and landed the first crack of the PAP facade in 1981 in Anson.

Interestingly , they had faith in a member of the smallest minority group to show the way.
 

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Barisan disappeared into thin air for the same silly line of reasoning. Singaporeans paid a price for 18 years before some brave and insightful residents of lower income consitutency had the temerity, the guts and the intelligence to vote for an opposition candidate and landed the first crack of the PAP facade in 1981 in Anson.

Interestingly , they had faith in a member of the smallest minority group to show the way.

- barisan 'disappearance' is not just about boycotting the GE. there's a operation cold store by the PAP, which was before the boycott, and that, starts the downfall of barisan. the barisan go 'into thin air', not just because of the boycott. they were seriously 'hit' by the PAP's operation cold store.

- was GRC implemented during 1981? local mass media, has the SPH formed at the time? the political system hasn't been extensively tweaked during 1981 isn't it?
 
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i m wondering why. PAP owns Singapore, so what is the point of elections

That is exactly what the opposition should never do.
The Barisan MPs betrayed the people who voted them in and left the whole parliament the PAP. It is the greatest mistake an opposition can ever make by admitting defeat even when they are voted in.
 

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Doesn't matter. The GE is a farce. A sham. No point participating in it. The PAP had tweaked the system out of shape, GE is tilted in favor for the PAP. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER FOR WHOM, THE WAYANG. ITS STILL A WAYANG. NO POINT HELPING THE PAP TO LOOK GOOD.

and btw, u don't know shit. so stop pretending u know it all.

wow...cant debate and just dismissed others as "dont know shit".

I m sure you know alot of shit, I m sure you know what would happen to the whole opposition camp should a boycott took place. I m sure you know what would happen to singapore politics as well as Singapore society if the opposotion were to lose their drive again, just as what hasppen to Barisan 40 years ago.

Your lack of understanding of how the geopolitics of singapore is so revealing that you only focus on TWO bogeyman character, either LKY or YSL and that is all you know.

So you think you know?

Then tell us...
what is a PAP mindset?
what is a PAP attitude?
what is the PAP outlook?
what is "walk too close" to PAP?

and one more question:

How could boycott of GE benefits the development of opposotion politics and the overall political development of Singapore?

and explain all these in acedemic manner

I m sure a "know it all" like you would only have one answer: LKY, LKY LKY and LKY
 

cleareyes

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Barisan disappeared into thin air for the same silly line of reasoning. Singaporeans paid a price for 18 years before some brave and insightful residents of lower income consitutency had the temerity, the guts and the intelligence to vote for an opposition candidate and landed the first crack of the PAP facade in 1981 in Anson.

Interestingly , they had faith in a member of the smallest minority group to show the way.

We seem to have this similar debate on boycott of GE in the old sammyboy and it seems this debate is always timed accrodingly to the coming of GE.

doesnt this seem fishy to you?
 

Cactaur

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A boycott achieves nothing. Gov won't care if they are seen to be 'undemocratic' if no one opposes. It's not like there will be international pressure to hold another election and even if there was they'll just ignore it.
 

char_jig_kar

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wow...cant debate and just dismissed others as "dont know shit".

I m sure you know alot of shit, I m sure you know what would happen to the whole opposition camp should a boycott took place. I m sure you know what would happen to singapore politics as well as Singapore society if the opposotion were to lose their drive again, just as what hasppen to Barisan 40 years ago.

Your lack of understanding of how the geopolitics of singapore is so revealing that you only focus on TWO bogeyman character, either LKY or YSL and that is all you know.

So you think you know?

Then tell us...
what is a PAP mindset?
what is a PAP attitude?
what is the PAP outlook?
what is "walk too close" to PAP?

and one more question:

How could boycott of GE benefits the development of opposotion politics and the overall political development of Singapore?

and explain all these in acedemic manner

I m sure a "know it all" like you would only have one answer: LKY, LKY LKY and LKY

no need for your lengthy hollow rhetoric message.

the system had been tweaked seriously in favor of the PAP for the GE. do u agree with that? if u agree, then why do u still support the Opposition to go participate in the GE??
 

char_jig_kar

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A boycott achieves nothing. Gov won't care if they are seen to be 'undemocratic' if no one opposes. It's not like there will be international pressure to hold another election and even if there was they'll just ignore it.

Like I said, the whole system had been tweaked in favor of the PAP for the GE. So why participate in it? Why participate in a unfair GE? By participating in a unfair GE, doesn't it show that the Opposition concede the GE is fair game?
 

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Re: why do the opposition parties not boycott the obviously unfair elections in singa

We seem to have this similar debate on boycott of GE in the old sammyboy and it seems this debate is always timed accrodingly to the coming of GE.

doesnt this seem fishy to you?
Yes, and notice how "passionately" and doggedly the arguments are. This is despite the fact that mathematically and objectively there can only be one winner in a boycott - the PAP.
 

Hakka Tiow

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Like I said, the whole system had been tweaked in favor of the PAP for the GE. So why participate in it? Why participate in a unfair GE? By participating in a unfair GE, doesn't it show that the Opposition concede the GE is fair game?

Bro Char Ji Kar

Your position will only be vindicated with the results of the next General Election when the PAP roams home with more than 66.6% of the contested wards.

Yes even with all that had transpired in the last twelve months! the electorate still sticks to it's old mindset!

Then only will the realisation sets in that as long as the rules are written by the PAP, it is pointless to attempt to use the ballot box to express your desire for change!
 

char_jig_kar

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Yes, and notice how "passionately" and doggedly the arguments are. This is despite the fact that mathematically and objectively there can only be one winner in a boycott - the PAP.

wrong. do the math.

by participating in a sham GE tilted in favor to the PAP, the PAP will win no matter. on top of that, they could show the world, tell it to the people, the PAP beat the Opposition fair and square. Shows that the PAP is a better choice in people's heart.

by simply boycott the GE, the PAP cannot harp about how PAP had defeated the Opposition camp in a fair game. 'cause there's no one there in the court.

and boycotting the GE is just the first step.
 
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