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which country?

Everyone loves Malaysia. Durians?

imo, malaysia is the best country for sinkies to establish a 2nd home. there's no need to abandon sg entirely, but johor is so near and liberal with entry requirements for sinkies that the extra space and fresher air offer great relief for the rat race in sg. it's a win-win for ml and sg.
 
US$60K will buy me a 20m x 4m, 3-storeyed, 6-bedroom apartment in Phnom Penh, add maybe 30K for a condo.

At the moment there's no visa required for Asean citizens and 1-year mutiple-entry visa costs US$275, and applying for 1 is as easy as going to your nearest travel agent.

Although cost of living has in the past few years gone up, Phnom Penh is still very affordable for Singaporeans. Note that I said Phnom Penh, the rest of the country is considerably cheaper.

Just some examples:

Housing - I rent a 3 bedroom, unfurnished apartment for US$150. Utilities come to $30 per month.

Transportation - you can buy a 10 year old Camry for $15K, or move around in taxis ($1 flag-down), or tuk-tuk ($1 up),or motodop (%0.50 up).

Cigarettes - cheaper than DFS. Winston US$5 per carton. Marlboro USD$10+ per carton. There are cheaper locally made ones atUSD 3 per carton

Alcohol - a alcoholic's paradise. A ctn of Angkor or Anchor beer at US$11. A mug of beer at the cheaper outlets can cost aslittle as $2 per jug. At the girlie bars it costs $1.50,a mug.At the high end ones, $5 per small bottle (Darlin Darlin at Naga, e.g.)

Food - if you cook, dirt cheap. Fresh water fishes like patin (live), snakeheads (live) is like $2 per kg, sea fishes tend to be slightly more expensive, but of course the groupers and exotic fishes cost more.

Pork is cheap, so is beef, but goat is not easily available although there are small Muslim pockets in the city where you can get them.

Eating out? From dirt cheap to expensive and every level in between.

I reckon one can live here quite comfortably,not luxuriously, on US$1,000 / month.

Bit this is only my take.
Thanks for the info. Phanom Penh is one place I seriously considered when LOS get too crowded. The other place is Vientiane.
 
Thanks for the info. Phanom Penh is one place I seriously considered when LOS get too crowded. The other place is Vientiane.

Bro LOS will never be too crowded la. Thais highly protect themselves and their own interests unlike Sinkapore. Its the best place on earth and you are considering Killing Fields?
 
imo, malaysia is the best country for sinkies to establish a 2nd home. there's no need to abandon sg entirely, but johor is so near and liberal with entry requirements for sinkies that the extra space and fresher air offer great relief for the rat race in sg. it's a win-win for ml and sg.



The biggest problem with JB is that when the big guys argue it's the minnows that get hurt.
The old man likes insulting our neighbours & the Malaysian politicians take advantage for political gain.

We poor Sporeans get hit with the flak. If you have to commute to Spore on a regular basis you might face delays & obstacles. There is also the threat of increases in the toll if you drive.
 
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Thanks for the info. Phanom Penh is one place I seriously considered when LOS get too crowded. The other place is Vientiane.
great minds think alot bro! Laos is more similar to Thai and less havoc than Cambodia......good place to retire.....reminds me of old Siam.
 
Bro LOS will never be too crowded la. Thais highly protect themselves and their own interests unlike Sinkapore. Its the best place on earth and you are considering Killing Fields?

Pii, for me is not crowded issue but rather cost issue.......LOS especially BKK is inching up and getting less value for money......

sidetrack.......how come our pts same same but you got more power than me?!!?!?! i not into the pts thingy until recently used to zap fucktards like kopiuncle & co.
 
Pii, for me is not crowded issue but rather cost issue.......LOS especially BKK is inching up and getting less value for money......

sidetrack.......how come our pts same same but you got more power than me?!!?!?! i not into the pts thingy until recently used to zap fucktards like kopiuncle & co.

LOS many places can go baanook area still cheap and nice, I like baanook la Pii.

I kenna zap la so points went down but then I noticed your posts so much more than me leh 8,669 you vs me 6,334.
 
Bro LOS will never be too crowded la. Thais highly protect themselves and their own interests unlike Sinkapore. Its the best place on earth and you are considering Killing Fields?
Think age is catching up with me. The traffic here is getting very bad.

Cannot say best place on earth. Nothing last forever lah. Remember Khmer empire was once the greatest in this part of the world.
 
great minds think alot bro! Laos is more similar to Thai and less havoc than Cambodia......good place to retire.....reminds me of old Siam.

For Vientiane I agree with you and Pii Chon. Its just a drive away from Non Kai and Nong Kai is just 6-7 hrs from Bangkok or just 1 hrs flight between Bangkok and Udon. I love all these places - Vientiane, Nong Kai, Udon, Khon Kaen.
 
great minds think alot bro! Laos is more similar to Thai and less havoc than Cambodia......good place to retire.....reminds me of old Siam.
I am getting increasing with all the tall modern buildings. Even pattaya is not spared. Looking forward to the days where i can walk, ride and drive at a relax pace.
 
LOS many places can go baanook area still cheap and nice, I like baanook la Pii.

I kenna zap la so points went down but then I noticed your posts so much more than me leh 8,669 you vs me 6,334.

if you like baanook then Laos will fit to a T.....but yes BKK outskirts is still good....a friend relocated to Samut Prakan.....his place to airport only 15mins
 
if you like baanook then Laos will fit to a T.....but yes BKK outskirts is still good....a friend relocated to Samut Prakan.....his place to airport only 15mins

Samut Prakan is very nice I have man y customers there. Chaophya River discharges somewhere there and the riverside has nice seafood restaurants this area known as Bang Pu
 
Bro LOS will never be too crowded la. Thais highly protect themselves and their own interests unlike Sinkapore. Its the best place on earth and you are considering Killing Fields?

Bro joe but why am i seeing an increasing prescence of so many foreigners in thailand. Like russians in jotian and u know indians in khao san rd when i was there kept on pestering farangs to make suits. :rolleyes: Middle easterners and africans are also there. The chinese have sort of blended into the culture and have been there a long time but i must say the bkk actually has quite a large number of foreigners over there but of course overall everything is done in thai.
 
Bro joe but why am i seeing an increasing prescence of so many foreigners in thailand. Like russians in jotian and u know indians in khao san rd when i was there kept on pestering farangs to make suits. :rolleyes: Middle easterners and africans are also there. The chinese have sort of blended into the culture and have been there a long time but i must say the bkk actually has quite a large number of foreigners over there but of course overall everything is done in thai.

Many foreigners, more and more I agree come to Thailand and contributed to the economy. This is good. Unlike Sinkapore, at least they do not come to drain the resources belonging to Thais, this is the big difference. It's not easy to be a Thai PR and citizen, lots of criteria to fulfill not just money can work.
 
Or you can make funny faces across the Straits to them and they can do nothing to you.

you know, ive never met any of them...im not the sort of relative one wants to introduce to other relatives..... besides, i don't play the game...games....
 
increasing prescence of so many foreigners in thailand. Like russians in jotian and u know indians in khao san rd when i was there kept on pestering farangs to make suits. :rolleyes: Middle easterners and africans are also there..
Ah nehs (tinker tailors included), mid east blokes aplenty in lower sukuhumvit sois. Met 2 yanks recently, teaching in some Isaan university (and doing consultancy on the side, "cash" business to avoid paper trail or conflict of interest). Both had this interesting conspiracy theory: Especially with the mid east fellas, this was outcome of some 'trade off' with Uncle Sam after military coup ousting Taksin. As an ally, Uncle Sam didn't take too kindly to same. Imho, this is just yanks talking big without substantiating:confused:
 
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