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fedup

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Typo error??? Haha you are good at trivializing serious faults of WP.

Losing money for a company is serious but to have a messed up accounts that cannot tell you how millions have been spent and worse, with the whole system filled with conflict of interests without proper mechanism of checks and balances... that is more potentially dangerous lah... by the way, do you know that anyhow post for GST return is.a criminal offence?

Goh Meng Seng

why the long face :eek:
 

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tanwahp

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Typo error??? Haha you are good at trivializing serious faults of WP.

Losing money for a company is serious but to have a messed up accounts that cannot tell you how millions have been spent and worse, will the whole system filled with conflict of interests without proper mechanism of checks and balances... that is more potentially dangerous lah... by the way, do you know that anyhow post for GST return is.a criminal offence?

Goh Meng Seng

Is exaggerating and distorting more moral than trivializing? Which news report tells you millions cannot be known to have spent. AHPETC failed its audit because the opening figures from PAP's TC cannot be traced as PAP AIM had destroyed all past accounts. Such an act in private sector, MCST or developer would have sued the MA. That is why AHPETC dared to invite MND and MND knows it will look bad if it doesn't.

The other issue is AHPETC's projects to FMSS lacked details. This can be corrected. Another is sinking fund placement, also corrected. They cannot be worse than AHPETC running into the red and if that really happens, don't say it's a mistake hor.

Losing money for a company is serious

We thought you said it was "inconsequential", now it's "serious"? Or was it an unthought blurting out due to rush to put WP down below SDP.
 
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halsey02

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One day in politics is really a long time you know. Just like WP, after all the dance and fancy, reality sets in and slowly but steadily, you will see how it decays. From YSL saga, copy cat saga, MX 9 saga... people are forgiving... Hawker Centre Ceiling Saga, people give benefits of doubts until now, two years of financial accounts saga, people start to have doubts... Never say never in politics.

As far as I am concerned, despite of invitations and such, I am still sitting on the fence to see things unfolding, with great amusement. I guess the BEST has yet to come! By then, we won't know who will be the ones losing election deposits if things do not change. Change is the only TRUE REALITY to everybody, be it PAP, WP, NSP, SDP or otherwise. People who cannot keep up with Change, correct themselves along the path of Change, will be ultimately disposed off by the people and history. It was just like yesterday PAP enjoyed all the trust, power and endorsement by Singaporeans but now, they have lost all these trust given by the people. What has happened to PAP, can also happen to WP, if WP so to choose to carry on its present path of arrogance and incompetency.

It is a big kind of irony I am amused with. While there are big group of awaken opposition supporters out there crying foul against PAP whenever WP is in trouble, regardless of whether it is due to its own folly or PAP's politicking, we must first reflect that if WP has become rotten with such incompetency, on what moral grounds would it be able to depend on in order to carry out its own "politicking" of checking on PAP's follies? If WP is to point fingers at PAP's adverse governance, won't PAP supporters do the same in pointing out WP's follies and claim that this is just "politicking"?

Politicking is not a BAD WORD that WP people made it out to be. Democracy DEPENDS ON POLITICKING to extract that kinds of checks and balances desired to ensure GOOD GOVERNANCE. Else, what would the system be if BOTH ruling party and opposition parties' politicians COLLUDE? All of us will be screwed lah! Politicking is the necessary though insufficient conditions for a functioning Democracy and thus, WP people, please live up to this reality. Of course excessive politicking is undesirable for any system but I guess at this moment, we will need just a little bit more politicking to kick start the development of Democracy in Singapore.

WP seriously needs a leadership change which I think, isn't going to happen any sooner. If that is so, as I have stated in my blog, the fate of WP will be hung by FMSS which may just turn into F-MESS eventually. Who will lose election deposits? Friend, it is still very early to say lah!

Goh Meng Seng

SOUR GRAPES......better don't go where you know, where it is, to eat you Hylam Curry png....not safe anymore... heh heh heh :rolleyes:
 

Goh Meng Seng

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Have you actually read the Audit report or not? Or just reading off WP TC's press statement? LOL!

Goh Meng Seng

Is exaggerating and distorting more moral than trivializing? Which news report tells you millions cannot be known to have spent. AHPETC failed its audit because the opening figures from PAP's TC cannot be traced as PAP AIM had destroyed all past accounts. Such an act in private sector, MCST or developer would have sued the MA. That is why AHPETC dared to invite MND and MND knows it will look bad if it doesn't.

The other issue is AHPETC's projects to FMSS lacked details. This can be corrected. Another is sinking fund placement, also corrected. They cannot be worse than AHPETC running into the red and if that really happens, don't say it's a mistake hor.



We thought you said it was "inconsequential", now it's "serious"? Or was it an unthought blurting out due to rush to put WP down below SDP.
 

Marilyn

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I'm a girl. Tracytan is a man.

I also say. Haven't I been calling you Samantha from the start? :wink:

As for that TrannyTan, no self-respecting woman will start a thread like "Exquisite Ecstacy" to broadcast HER feminity. Either you are or not. Try calling HER out in any of HER threads and watch the "normally coherent" HER act blur. I'm just surprised that the guys here who claims to be authorities on women can get taken in. :eek:
 

chonburifc

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I hoped GMS will not fall into the traps of these cyber faceless psychopath. All these psychopath are wasting GMS precious time which can be better spent on discussing UFO topics.
 

tanwahp

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Have you actually read the Audit report or not? Or just reading off WP TC's press statement? LOL!

Goh Meng Seng

Yes I did and I know you didn't (or had difficulty with all the anti-WP visions in your eyes).

"the auditors were unable to determine the validity and accuracy of various items in AHPETC’s accounts, including receivables of some $1.8 million recorded in Sundry Debtors, lift repair and lift upgrading expenses of some $20 million"
https://app.mnd.gov.sg/Newsroom/NewsPage.aspx?ID=5123&category=Press+Release&year=2014&RA1&RA2&RA3

At least MND acknowledges that $1.8 million were receivables and $20 million was for lift repair and upgrading. Goh Meng Seng accuses WP of stashing money, alleges it is unknown expenditure, then cries foul over any potential lawsuit from WP (as if WP will bother with him).
 
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halsey02

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Have you actually read the Audit report or not? Or just reading off WP TC's press statement? LOL!

Goh Meng Seng

Stop whinning...even if you stand for election at any of the wards & I am voting....I can say..the "X would not be there...silence is golden....a man is worth by his action, not his words...& especially one, who whine worst than, the ah soh's at the wet market...I am not against you.... but you really sound like an empty drum & looking like " sour grapes"....
 
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SockPuppet

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haha...you very serious...GMS has the right to associate himself with anybody, it's his right. even if he is caught in bed with lee tah bar, i will still support him cos' it's a free world. :biggrin:

Yes I am. But leetahbar is of the worst kind. People can take sides - no reason to begrudge that but this bastard will come in to pretend to say good things but actually is sliming the fella. This is ok with forumers who may want to bicker and argue but if you just pay attention, this bastard will pretend to support opposition but always try to slime different opposition. He is a bastard. Period.

And if GMS is actually associating with such a bastard... when this is a pro-opposition forum ... then must reconsider support for GMS... or at least influence GMS against association
 
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Papsmearer

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Hmmm. I thought Scroobal was Patrick Tan, and regrettably he has passed away. Could that be why he has not posted, or am I wrong and Scroobal is very well and alive?
 

fedup

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If they are "fair", they won't discard top specialist doctor or 1st Class Honours LSE candidates to vote for Ah Lian in PE By elections. WP has won because of this inherent "unfair" attitude or selection behavior of voters but it will have to live with it as well. They will be "unfair" and "very unforgiving" if WP really screws up big time. And this will not only affect WP but ALL Opposition Parties as well. And of course, all other opposition parties will scream UNFAIR because it was WP which screwed up but not them, why punish them? Live with it. That's how opposition politics in Singapore works.


Goh Meng Seng

PS. Now you know why I have declined all invitations and prefer to sit on the fence?

Teo CB : This kar-chng specialist doctor good? :confused: I no eye see :biggrin:
 

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chonburifc

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GMS is the best of the best. All the problems Sinkees facing now would have been solved had GMS been the PM.
 

yinyang

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As for that TrannyTan, no self-respecting woman will start a thread like "Exquisite Ecstacy" to broadcast HER feminity. Either you are or not. Try calling HER out in any of HER threads and watch the "normally coherent" HER act blur. ...surprised that the guys here who claims to be authorities on women can get taken in. :eek:
Takes 1 from proverbial venus to sniff out an imposter (from mars)? Chon here seems to get his teeth on same :p
 
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