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What Have They Learnt?

jw5

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I don't think there was anything wrong with my attitude or tone. In fact, if I recall correctly, I said "Excuse me please".
But I do concede that the elderly person may not have heard me or may not have understood English.
I'm old enough to have learnt that we need to give way to people, to behave appropriately in public places and to show consideration to others.
If anyone chooses to do more than stare when I tell him pleasantly to "excuse me please", they can do what they think is appropriate.
Your point about giving old folks due respect is precisely the reason why I started this thread. I thought the same way, but discovered that many of them don't behave in a manner that commands respect. Perhaps that is something else I learnt.
 

SIFU

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old doesn't mean must automatically give them respect..

just as i dun give respect to dead tyrants.
 

SIFU

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Not only dead tyrants bro, also living tyrants.

bro jw5,

i mentioned 'dead' tyrants cos i cannot understand why ppl always say give the dead some respect.. if an areshole just died, why should we automatically respect him..

a dead areshole is just a dead areshole.. doesn't deserve any respect, just as he doesn't deserve any resepct while he is alive..
 

jw5

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bro jw5,

i mentioned 'dead' tyrants cos i cannot understand why ppl always say give the dead some respect.. if an areshole just died, why should we automatically respect him..

a dead areshole is just a dead areshole.. doesn't deserve any respect, just as he doesn't deserve any resepct while he is alive..
I think that people who say "give the dead respect" say so only because they are afraid of ghosts. It's not that they actually respected the person who died.
But I get your point that people who died who didn't deserve respect when they were alive, don't deserve any when dead.
 

Lestat

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Respecting the dead? LKY better not have any statue erected in his honor when he dies.

Bound to encourage a spike in public vandalism.
 

angry_one

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They are the reason why the PAP decided to rule with an iron fist long ago. Imagine trying to bring liberal democracy in singapore... these folks will be demanding the world and mocking the leaders at every turn.

I've seen 14 yr olds who are more mature than 40 yr olds. And i've seen 70 yr olds acting like kids. You assume that the elderly folk will be more socially adept, but they will assume that you must give them the right of way because they're your seniors and demand absolute respect.
 

jw5

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They are the reason why the PAP decided to rule with an iron fist long ago. Imagine trying to bring liberal democracy in singapore... these folks will be demanding the world and mocking the leaders at every turn.

I've seen 14 yr olds who are more mature than 40 yr olds. And i've seen 70 yr olds acting like kids. You assume that the elderly folk will be more socially adept, but they will assume that you must give them the right of way because they're your seniors and demand absolute respect.
And because they rule with an iron fist, generations behave like the world owes them a living when they are in public places interacting with ordinary people and become meek as mice when the elites come by every once in a while.
Circular argument, you may say. :(
 

tonychat

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I'm not ranting against elderly people nor is it one particular incident, but I frequently wonder what some elderly people have learnt in their lives.

Not saying that they have to be life or world changing scientists, doctors or economists, or that they have to give birth to such life changing people, but should they at least have learnt that they need to co-exist with other people in this world?

Just 2 examples at supermarkets.
This elderly woman was waiting at the checkout counter with a younger man, possibly her son. For some reason, she decided to stand behind and not beside him. She looked and sounded perfectly fine, no dementia or mental illness. After I said "excuse me" a few times, she finally moved a tinny step forward, still standing behind the man, until he had to gently tug her to stand beside him and I could pass.

Another example was an elderly man talking to his wife and both were blocking the supermarket aisle. After I said "excuse me" a few times and walked past, he stared at me as if I had stolen his money. And again, he looked and sounded perfectly sane and lucid.

You expect grace in sinkieland? Good luck.. You have more luck when you are in another country, such grace are the norm there.
 

SIFU

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You expect grace in sinkieland? Good luck.. You have more luck when you are in another country, such grace are the norm there.

your father got teach u grace:confused:

then wtf you disappoint him by being a convict and a pimp:oIo::oIo::oIo:
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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This talk about old ppl reminded me of a couple of incidents.


Mostly with old aunties.


1st one. Standing at a crowded bus stop. Suddenly someone taps me ont he shoulder turn around. 1 smiling grandma with a trolley full of crap tells me in mandarin. Bang Wo Bang wo.

I am pissed now. I stare at her. The fucking grandma looks surprised and pissed and shouts at me Bang wo. I walk off in a huff. Basket if not cos she's an old POS i would have told her off. I'm not her slave. This asshole grandma finds another guy and he carries her crap for her.

2nd incident. Sitting alone waiting for fren at lido cineplex. Sitting at a table with 2 other chairs. This fugging old woman POS walks to the chair and attempts to sit on it without even asking me. I glare at her. This POS then asks me how do u go to the 3rd floor, if u know how lido is built u would know it's not straight forward. I instantly shot back. I dunno. This fucking grandma then tells me i'm sitting here. I then let her sit down. This POS like beh song with me but she's just a useless granny what can she do to me? Then puts her fucking umbrella on the other chair. I put my foot on the other chair. Then that's it. She leaves before my fren arrives. Wait, my fren did not come into lido i went outside.

3rd incident. There's a friggin old auntie on the bus. Suddenly i feel someone tap me on the shoulder. It was quite rude. This friggin auntie asks me in hokkien. AH Hia have 2 bucks to give me or not? I shouted back in mandarin Mei you lah. This POS got stunned, basket i owe u a living? SHe then avoids the mum with her young son sitting in front of me and asks a lower secondary school boy in front the same thing. The boy shakes his head. 1stly calling a young sec school boy ah hia? Get da fiak outta here. Next i noticed she didn't seem to ask any women but young guys and not the old uncles and only the chinese ones.


These incidents make me realise that these POS have that i am old so everyone has to F out of my way mentality plus the SEXIST mentality in sinkeeland, combined together they think they can talk down to young guys, especially chinese ones. Maybe the mat or keling ones do it to the guys i dunno nor care.
 

jw5

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This talk about old ppl reminded me of a couple of incidents.


Mostly with old aunties.


1st one. Standing at a crowded bus stop. Suddenly someone taps me ont he shoulder turn around. 1 smiling grandma with a trolley full of crap tells me in mandarin. Bang Wo Bang wo.

I am pissed now. I stare at her. The fucking grandma looks surprised and pissed and shouts at me Bang wo. I walk off in a huff. Basket if not cos she's an old POS i would have told her off. I'm not her slave. This asshole grandma finds another guy and he carries her crap for her.

2nd incident. Sitting alone waiting for fren at lido cineplex. Sitting at a table with 2 other chairs. This fugging old woman POS walks to the chair and attempts to sit on it without even asking me. I glare at her. This POS then asks me how do u go to the 3rd floor, if u know how lido is built u would know it's not straight forward. I instantly shot back. I dunno. This fucking grandma then tells me i'm sitting here. I then let her sit down. This POS like beh song with me but she's just a useless granny what can she do to me? Then puts her fucking umbrella on the other chair. I put my foot on the other chair. Then that's it. She leaves before my fren arrives. Wait, my fren did not come into lido i went outside.

3rd incident. There's a friggin old auntie on the bus. Suddenly i feel someone tap me on the shoulder. It was quite rude. This friggin auntie asks me in hokkien. AH Hia have 2 bucks to give me or not? I shouted back in mandarin Mei you lah. This POS got stunned, basket i owe u a living? SHe then avoids the mum with her young son sitting in front of me and asks a lower secondary school boy in front the same thing. The boy shakes his head. 1stly calling a young sec school boy ah hia? Get da fiak outta here. Next i noticed she didn't seem to ask any women but young guys and not the old uncles and only the chinese ones.


These incidents make me realise that these POS have that i am old so everyone has to F out of my way mentality plus the SEXIST mentality in sinkeeland, combined together they think they can talk down to young guys, especially chinese ones. Maybe the mat or keling ones do it to the guys i dunno nor care.
Next time they ask you for anything, ask them who they voted for in the last elections.
Act accordingly to their answer.
 
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