What do you think of TOC's Choo Zheng Xi?

[Avantas]

Hey bro,

Long time no see ! Any discount if I visit your shop again ?

Dear Locke,

If this Avantas is the Avantas from the old Sammyboy, then I say he is an individual. I met him personally in Tampines...yeah, Tampines, do you find it strange? LOL!....Now that you reminds me of something...LOL!

I remember his attitude changed for some strange reasons which I have yet to figure out. Most likely being poisoned.

Well, at his age, maybe he is really Remy's classmate, who knows?

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Papititis,

Bro who knows you may well be on to something here, because this chap Choo Zheng Xi sure knows how to get mainstream media tv coverage, heck I think he appears to have been getting more tv coverage than even some PAP ministers let alone PAP MPs in the last few weeks.

I could not believe it when I was channel surfing last night and low and behold who did I spot yet again on CNA but Choo Zheng Xi on the Talkback show hosted by apparent PAP establishment figure Debra Soon and Balji:p

Even if Choo decides not to practice law nor enter politics in the near future, he would probably have no difficulty getting into say Burson Marstellar or Hill Knowlton judging by his PR savvy

Cheers

Gentlemen's honour. A few years down the road, minimum MP status, we still
get to exchange views over the internet, all I can eat at McDonalds' ok ?

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Porifio

I would argue that his current popularity stems in large part from the hard work that all the founders and creators put in before Blogging was popular and before the force of Malaysiakini was recognized.


Cheers

Locke

 

[Avantas]

You are right and wrong.

Blogging has been popular even before TOC is founded in 2006.

Choo is not "popular" at all with fellow bloggers. In fact, many view TOC with suspicion due to its links with the PAP.

There are more established blogs such as talkingcock.com, Singapore Angle, Mr Brown, Mr Wang, Yawning bread etc.

Why are these bloggers not promoted by the mainstream media ?

Think about it.

Choo is being paraded by the media as a product of PM Lee's "liberalization".

Shame on the attention-seeking Choo and the online CONS !

Dear Porifio

I would argue that his current popularity stems in large part from the hard work that all the founders and creators put in before Blogging was popular and before the force of Malaysiakini was recognized.


Cheers

Locke

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Avantas and clones

In a business sense, it has defined and created an edge for itself. Most Blogs like Yawning Bread and others are OMO or one man operations. Talkingcock and Mr Brown are disingenous as they are positioned as satirical humor and cannot be considered serious commentary. The TOC has deliberately and rightly garnered a wide spectrum of alternative views and has been able to grow and sustain that process.

Choo is not popular and has never been popular with competitive blogs of a particular political bent. That said and done they can't please everybody and their clones.



Locke

 

[Avantas]

Bro,

Choo is not really that PR savvy. He is plain arrogant and seeks cheap publicity.

Have you wondered why TOC is so actively promoted compared to let's say Mr Brown, Mr Wang, yawning bread, sgpolitics, talkingcock.com, sintercom, singabloodypore etc ?

Not only because TOC NEVER criticize or make of PAP like these blogs, but because Choo Zheng Xi is a PAP MAN !!!

Do you think if the ST will glorify Choo and TOC if Choo is a SDP member or supporter ?

Please help spread the message to those you know not to be deceived by The Online CONS.

Papititis,

Bro who knows you may well be on to something here, because this chap Choo Zheng Xi sure knows how to get mainstream media tv coverage, heck I think he appears to have been getting more tv coverage than even some PAP ministers let alone PAP MPs in the last few weeks.

I could not believe it when I was channel surfing last night and low and behold who did I spot yet again on CNA but Choo Zheng Xi on the Talkback show hosted by apparent PAP establishment figure Debra Soon and Balji:p

Even if Choo decides not to practice law nor enter politics in the near future, he would probably have no difficulty getting into say Burson Marstellar or Hill Knowlton judging by his PR savvy

Cheers

 

[Papititis]

Papititis,

Bro who knows you may well be on to something here, because this chap Choo Zheng Xi sure knows how to get mainstream media tv coverage, heck I think he appears to have been getting more tv coverage than even some PAP ministers let alone PAP MPs in the last few weeks.

I could not believe it when I was channel surfing last night and low and behold who did I spot yet again on CNA but Choo Zheng Xi on the Talkback show hosted by apparent PAP establishment figure Debra Soon and Balji:p

Even if Choo decides not to practice law nor enter politics in the near future, he would probably have no difficulty getting into say Burson Marstellar or Hill Knowlton judging by his PR savvy

Cheers

Hell, if you have a hand of colour straight, would you resist the temptation to show hand? Hope you are into poker. And nothing negative meant toward CZX.

 

[Papititis]

Dear PAPtitis

On and dinner at Mezzenine with a bottle of nice red. Btw time frame say four years will there suffice ?



Locke

You're on! (to myself.....jeez, this guy has expensive taste, I was just offering Mcdonalds.):p

 

[kakowi]

I don't think it should be a matter of petty jealousies here because if it is not him, then it will be another.

Rather, what is important is that there is some strategic process unfolding here and the outcome can only be the diminishing of the opposition in some way, three years later.

That is the most logical hypothesis, for now.

 

[kakowi]

Just want to add one more point.

If you notice all the resultant events from the liberalization, they are all tailored to increasing the mindshare of the voters regarding the TOC.

These should be of significance to the opposition - the battleground can only be fought in the minds of those who really matter - the voters.

Hopefully this will give pause to the opposition.

 

[Avantas]

Dear Locke,

Before I continue, let me stress I have no clones. I am the one and only Avantas from the old SBF.

You are spot on. The next question we need to us is this: why is it that Choo, a mere Law undergraduate, is able to recruit so many distinguished people of stature in society such as Tan Kin Lian, Leong Sze Hian, Gerald Giam etc. to write for TOC?

If Choo is affliated to SDP in anyway, like Ng E Jay, do you still think these people will support him ?

Obviously they must have seen the potential in Choo to associate themselves with him. And how did they know about it? Well, who wouldn't want to help out a future political star who is mentored by a PAP minister ?

I am not lying. I have CONCRETE PROOF that Choo has intimate links with a PAP minister in the WEST and I am merely waiting for the correct time to release the MOST SUBSTANTIAL evidence in blogosphere.

That will probably spell THE END of The Online CONS.

Dear Avantas and clones

In a business sense, it has defined and created an edge for itself. Most Blogs like Yawning Bread and others are OMO or one man operations. Talkingcock and Mr Brown are disingenous as they are positioned as satirical humor and cannot be considered serious commentary. The TOC has deliberately and rightly garnered a wide spectrum of alternative views and has been able to grow and sustain that process.

Choo is not popular and has never been popular with competitive blogs of a particular political bent. That said and done they can't please everybody and their clones.



Locke

 

[Avantas]

Bro,

I agree with you. The PAP is thinking hard on how to win over the minds and hearts of the young people. That is why they allow a token form of liberalization to win support.

Imagine, if Choo Zheng Xi were to join PAP as a candidate in the next GE, how much support will he get from those brainless TOC readers ??

I don't think it should be a matter of petty jealousies here because if it is not him, then it will be another.

Rather, what is important is that there is some strategic process unfolding here and the outcome can only be the diminishing of the opposition in some way, three years later.

That is the most logical hypothesis, for now.

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Papitis

I like a good bottle of La-Fit by the way or a screaming eagle hence my suggestion of Mezzanine :_)) nice wine list and decent food to match.


Cheers

Locke

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Avantas and Clones

I doubt it, some nicks have disappeared some have been copied. You threaten like the empty vessel that you are. You had the address wrong , and you were threatening to reveal things in the light of ' I know what you did last summer." meaning that you really know less.

I have said TOC has chosen to position himself in as centrist a position as possible seeking alternative views from all sources including the monolithic PAP and I applaud that position. If other blogs are able to gain traction by recruiting other writers then so be it but the fact is that they can't and kudo's to the TOC for good writing and a variety of analysis. That I believe says is all and perhaps why the active citizen will soon make its unimaginative appearance like some fake bar chor mee saying he is the Mr Brown Bar chor mee copying the famous mr brown bar chor mee stall.

God anyone who knows anything abt Tan Kin Lian and about NTUC and the PAP would not be spouting the nonsense that you are spouting that TKL is associating with a dear old student because he is being mentored by a PAP minister




Locke

 

[Avantas]

Then perhaps you will like to explain why Tan K L choose to write for TOC even when he has his own blog ? Why lend his name to an unknown Law undegraduate who may turn out to be on the wrong side of politics ?

Dear Avantas and Clones

I doubt it, some nicks have disappeared some have been copied. You threaten like the empty vessel that you are. You had the address wrong , and you were threatening to reveal things in the light of ' I know what you did last summer." meaning that you really know less.

I have said TOC has chosen to position himself in as centrist a position as possible seeking alternative views from all sources including the monolithic PAP and I applaud that position. If other blogs are able to gain traction by recruiting other writers then so be it but the fact is that they can't and kudo's to the TOC for good writing and a variety of analysis. That I believe says is all and perhaps why the active citizen will soon make its unimaginative appearance like some fake bar chor mee saying he is the Mr Brown Bar chor mee copying the famous mr brown bar chor mee stall.

God anyone who knows anything abt Tan Kin Lian and about NTUC and the PAP would not be spouting the nonsense that you are spouting that TKL is associating with a dear old student because he is being mentored by a PAP minister




Locke

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Locke,

With due respect, Singapore's mainstream media is 100% controlled by you know who. So I don't think it is just 100% 'perspiration' on Choo Zheng Xi's part:p

Btw I think before dear old Choo Zheng Xi rose to such prominence, I recall a young chubby fiesty gal before him by the name of Gayle who was trying to get in on the act but now is most likely enjoying the Backs

Cheers

Dear Porifio

I would argue that his current popularity stems in large part from the hard work that all the founders and creators put in before Blogging was popular and before the force of Malaysiakini was recognized.


Cheers

Locke

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Locke,

I digress but have you seen the half baked attempt at political satire in the mediacorp local comedy telly series "The Noose" on c5 with skits on Mas Selamat and ERP?

Talkingcock and Mr Brown are disingenous as they are positioned as satirical humor and cannot be considered serious commentary.

Locke

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Well proof is in the eating of the pudding, and I must hand it to Choo that he has at least beaten other PAP wannabes with his apparent PR skills thus far.

Also to be fair to Choo and TOC, there appears to be criticism of the PAP government on its site albeit not in the robust aggressive black and white form seen on other sites. In fact I was pleasantly surprised to see Gopalan Nair's recent you tube interview on its site.

Perhaps it is also noteworthy that Ng E-Jay has been getting some positive coverage in the mainstream print media, first with his letters to ST Forum, followed by his particpation in the now defunct HRG togther with Chia Ti Lik and Ravi, and now his participation in the Bloggers 13 group.

To question and be irreverent is fine but let's also try to be rational mature and objective at the same time.

Bro,

Choo is not really that PR savvy. He is plain arrogant and seeks cheap publicity.


Not only because TOC NEVER criticize or make of PAP like these blogs, but because Choo Zheng Xi is a PAP MAN !!!

Do you think if the ST will glorify Choo and TOC if Choo is a SDP member or supporter ?

.

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Avantas

Because he see's value with the TOC, because perhaps the TOC actively recruits. Perhaps because Remy and Andrew are better looking and have better PR skills then that Kim Jong Ill look alike. But at the end of the day the positioning of TOC in the centre and as a broad church allows it access to some people that SG Politics will not because of its need or the need of the people behind it to be defined as being "better" or being "more opposition" than everyone else.




Locke

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Porifio

Yes Ejay's publicity is good publicity because he "protest" because he "associates with the true opposition" but for those who do not like the TOC and Remy and Andrew, Remy's publicity is because he is a PAP clone because a minister mentors him, because he seeks to be a minister, because he wants to be an MP at the next GE ( not forgetting how old the current youngest PAP MP Is ) the hypocrisy just churns my stomach.




Locke