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Was she discriminated?

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This Malay woman resign because she expects everyone in office to speak English just because she is there? When you work in an office with Malay colleagues, they will also speak their native language at times. Is that discrimination? Discrimination is if there are policies or rules that are against your race/religion, not when people do not like you leh.

This is odd, she rather work under a pinoy for 1/2 the pay then to work in an environment with chinese and double the salary. I think she is more racist rather than being discriminated. If you have a Australian degree and still have to work under a Pinoy with probably a Pinoy degree, there is seriously something wrong with you.

As for your boyfriend, he graduated 3 years ago and only now he found a job? You expect a person like that to get a good paying job? 3 years and no experience? He is lucky that he is employed now.




Lady Malay PMET resigned from government sector due to racial discrimination

Hi Gilbert,

I don’t know whether this is considered as counselling but I am lost, and I need some opinions and advice.

This morning, I read your article on how Malay Singaporeans are receiving lower class treatment in our own country – and I can’t agree more.

I was on the train reading and was literally crying because they really hit home.

I recently just emailed one of the ministers on how suffocating it is to live in Singapore due to foreign “talents”. Of course, no reply from him.

My previous job was in the government sector, but I decided to take the plunge to leave for a job with more than half pay-cut because I just couldn’t stand any longer being in the Chinese-speaking environment.

I just don’t get it.

They excluded me from most activities because I’m a Malay. Even in meetings, they converse in Mandarin.

Please don’t get me wrong, my best friend is a Chinese, but sometimes, enough is enough. Right now, I’m working under a Pinoy, who’s not so bright actually.

That being said, I have always wanted to migrate to Australia. I studied there but I came back to Singapore in 2010 because my mom passed away, and I met someone here.

It’s been the worst 2.8 years of my life (being unemployed for 1+ years because I don’t have a local degree etc, etc).

My boyfriend, on the other hand, has been unemployed for almost 3 years (despite having a diploma), and he just got a job two weeks ago with a low pay.


I keep wanting to get out of this country, as fast as I can, away from all these nonsense that this country is throwing at me but I don’t know whether I will be making the right choice to move.

I don’t know what’s in store for me, or for my boyfriend.

Both of us do not have skills that are on the SOL list.

We are both equally confused and skeptical, but I swear I can puke blood if I am stuck in this country any longer.

Many, many thanks,

Aida

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Hi Aida

Thanks for your mail and sorry to hear about your experience on racial discrimination in Singapore as someone from the minorities races.

It has being happening for the past few decades and so far our government has tried to put things right.

I dont blame you for wanting to flee the country in view of the subtle discrimination faced at your work place. Any sane person will do the same.

Frankly speaking, many Chinese Singaporeans have also indicated their interest to emigrate due to the huge influx of foreigners into our country snatching away jobs and our space.

If you decide to stay put, do consider contributing to the nation rebuilding process by being active politically or socially.

This way, you are becoming a change agent than merely surrendering to the current situation.

On another note, I want to post your mail on my blog so that others will know how our minorities races feel.

Is this ok with you?

I will leave out your name to protect your identity.

I am now in Sydney actually but will return this month end.

My family is based here.

Are you keen to catch up sometimes next month when I am back in Singapore?

Stay strong and positive.

Cheers!
 
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That is why Channel 8 that showed Chinese, Malay & Indian programs in the past have 'SUBTITLES" I don't understand w t #@#!? is she complaining?, can't she just tell her colleagues, please speak English when she is around? like when in the past, my Ah Neh's co-workers start conversing in Tamil when I am around.. I will give a hint " subtitle please" and they get the point.!!
 
hi there


1. aiyoh!
2. such minah is some loser.
3. in the work environment individuals will converse in no one-standard language mah!
4. good for it to work under the pinoy thing.
5. both can be equally lazy, sing songs & dance too!
 
Have you ever excluded someone just because of the person's race? She thinks everyone is racist?

Singaporean loves to eat and every outing will have a time where all will have their meals together. It is hard because if we want to go to a good restaurant (there is no such thing as a good tasting Halal chinese restaurant), you cannot eat and will say we "discriminate" you again. Would you invite a Hindu to a restaurant that serves nothing but beef? That is plain rude right? Unless you expect the whole world to evolve around you and all go Halal restaurant just because youre there?

Com'on, everyone already give in during office time as all office function must be Halal. You still expect others to do the same after office hour?





hey excluded me from most activities because I’m a Malay.
 
Honestly, think there's more than meets the eye here. Communal thingy and lingo easy to blame (and easily overcome). Has she looked at the mirror lately?:cool:
 
my general experience with malay female office workers - they are lazy, talk all day and get no work done.

she probably quit because she couldn't skive under the watchful eye of her chinese colleagues
under the dumb pinoy boss, she can smoke her boss and WALI all day long

minahs and pinoys are kindred spirits.
 
under the dumb pinoy boss, she can smoke her boss and WALI all day long
minahs and pinoys are kindred spirits.
Good 1, and share similiar vocab (tagalog and bahasa):p
 
typical response
now you guys heap all you can and hantam all the sweeping accusations and generalise statements

well I can see her frustrations - and she is telling how it is in her workplace
it may not happen elsewhere, but it happened in her workplace

how do you guys know otherwise when you are not being there ??
 
wrong example leh

if someone goes chinatown they also dont feel victimised if people there speaks chinese ..
they expect chinese to be spoken - if not then its not chinatown
 
Should be "Was she discriminated against?" or "Did she suffer discrimination?".

"Discriminated" in this context is an intransitive verb. [ie without an object]
 
If you want to know what is discrimination...I give you a good example.

Like many other Muslims who are not Malays, Rasul Sulaiman feels that Singapore’s self-help groups have neglected his tertiary education needs. As an Indian-Malay Muslim, his family contributes monthly to Mendaki, the Muslim self-help group, through the Central Provident Fund. However, he is not eligible for the Mendaki Tertiary Tuition Fee Subsidy, which subsidises Malay tertiary students’ fees fully or partially, depending on their families’ household income.

The 24-year-old is currently a fourth-year communications and new media student at the National University of Singapore. He does not qualify for Mendaki’s tuition fees subsidy as his identification card states ‘Indian’ as his race. Only Malays are eligible for the subsidy grant.

“It is unfair that Mendaki only helps out Malay Muslims and not the Indian Muslims. They receive a monthly contribution through CPF from Muslims of all races, and contact all when seeking volunteers.” Rasul said, “Indian Muslims fall through the gaps.”

Yayasan Mendaki, like its counterparts - the Singapore Indian Development Association, the Chinese Development Assistance Council, and the Eurasian Association, provides social services and financial aid programmes to assist its target community.

Each association helps different racial groups in Singapore, but Mendaki get funding through CPF from Indian Muslims and Sinda directs Indian Muslims to Mendaki for help.


The problem is, Mendaki only helps Malay Muslims for such programmes. The result? Indian Muslim students like Rasul fall through the cracks when they need assistance.

Like Rasul, many others face problems seeking help from such groups because there are no clear, strict rules stating which Singaporeans fall under which self-help groups’ scheme. Each self-help group reaches out to different racial groups in Singapore. However, in Mendaki’s case, the group defines itself according to religion. As such, there are Singaporeans of diverse ethnicity and religious beliefs who may fall through the gaps of such unclear classifications.

When contacted, Mendaki’s financial assistance department said that applicants are eligible for its Tertiary Tuition Fee Subsidy as long as they are Malay. However, they do not accept applicants who are Indian or of other ethnicity. When asked why they do not give out such grants to other Muslims, a spokesperson explained that the subsidy scheme is exclusively for Malays as they are the indigenous race of Singapore and declined to give further details.

Seventeen per cent of Singaporean Muslims are Indians, and those who are working are expected to contribute to Mendaki monthly through CPF.

According to SINDA’s official website, aid is extended to all Indians who are registered as Indian on their Identity Cards. However, contacting SINDA through their financial help hotline revealed a different picture. This reporter pretended to be an Indian Muslim and called up SINDA to inquire about subsidies for tertiary school fees. The hotline operator explained that since Muslims contribute to Mendaki, they should seek help from Mendaki instead. In special cases, help might be given out to Indian Muslims.

There are also Indian Muslim non-profit groups registered in Singapore. The most prominent group is the United Indian Muslim Association of Singapore. Unlike Mendaki, it does not receive contributions from Indian Muslims monthly through CPF. The organisation gives out bursaries to primary, secondary and polytechnic students of all racial and religious origins. However, it does not offer subsidies to university students.

Malina Alwi, a Malay student studying psychology at the Nanyang Technological University, is a recipient of Mendaki’s Tertiary Tuition Fees Subsidy. Although she is a beneficiary of the scheme, she believes that its exclusivity is unfair to Muslims of other racial groups.

“Well, it is not fair that they do not get to enjoy the subsidy when they contribute to Mendaki like we do too,” Malina said. “If they are expected to contribute, they should be able to receive the same help that we receive too.”

Other than possibly neglecting the needs of some Singaporeans, the self-help groups’ system of allocating help through racial differentiation has also influenced some Singaporeans’ decision when declaring their ethnicity

A 23-year-old student at the NUS Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences, who declined to be named, divulged that the system has influenced his family’s decision to declare their ethnicity as Malay. His family has a mixed ethnicity of Javanese, Arab, and Chinese. “We enjoy more social benefits because we registered ourselves as Malay rather than Chinese,” he admitted. “In any case, I look like a Malay, and anyway Arab or Javanese are not recognised races in Singapore.”

This student is a current recipient of Mendaki’s Tertiary Tuition Fee Subsidy. He does not wish to be identified, as he is worried that he may not receive the grant anymore if his actual ethnicity is exposed.

When called up, a spokesperson from the Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports said that it is in no position to comment on how self-help organisations should distribute financial aid, stating that allocation of grants are up to the “discretion of groups like SINDA and Mendaki”.

With the status quo unlikely to change anytime soon, many other students continue to be caught in the middle of these unclear regulations. “I think the system should be revised, so that no one gets left out,” Rasul said.

http://thestudentvoicenus.weebly.com/feature--mendaki.html
 
Should be "Was she discriminated against?" or "Did she suffer discrimination?".

"Discriminated" in this context is an intransitive verb. [ie without an object]

You were taught properly, or you learned your English well.
 
typical response
now you guys heap all you can and hantam all the sweeping accusations and generalise statements

well I can see her frustrations - and she is telling how it is in her workplace
it may not happen elsewhere, but it happened in her workplace

how do you guys know otherwise when you are not being there ??

and how do you know she's posting the truth? women are generally cunning and devious (hence samantha leong is running this forum), and can manipulate the truth to paint themselves in any positive light.

how many malay female workers/employees have you personally interacted with? how many times have you stepped into a doctor's office, only to be ignored by the minahs manning the counting because they are too busy chatting with their friends? how many non-chinese colleagues have you talked to who share the same opinion of malay female workers?

as an employer, i would NEVER hire a minah. a diligent and educated malay lady, sure, i'd hire any day. but not a minah.

minahs = entitlement mentality
 
Mendaki take $ from indian muslims but will not help them is not discrimination:confused:

Buddist organisation help malays but give them $ in some temple's auditorium = discrimination :confused:
 
Mat too. Knew one who will make sure he uses up all the annual MC entitlement every year but still expects to be promoted.

Knew another who will always find reason to work outside office and we all know he goes home after that.


minahs = entitlement mentality
 
Have you ever excluded someone just because of the person's race? She thinks everyone is racist?

Singaporean loves to eat and every outing will have a time where all will have their meals together. It is hard because if we want to go to a good restaurant (there is no such thing as a good tasting Halal chinese restaurant), you cannot eat and will say we "discriminate" you again. Would you invite a Hindu to a restaurant that serves nothing but beef? That is plain rude right? Unless you expect the whole world to evolve around you and all go Halal restaurant just because youre there?

Com'on, everyone already give in during office time as all office function must be Halal. You still expect others to do the same after office hour?

hey asswipe. which part did it say that she was talking about singaporean chinese? it could well be china chinese shes toking about. lets put it this way..lets say you were in an office with all indians..and in meetings and all they converse in tamil. oh wait, i forgot to add that its india indians. would you be saying the same thing? well, for your part in trying to offset the injustices she faced, and about halal stuff and hindu and so on..thats jus basic respect and a one off thing where we could find other alternatives. for the work part, you are going to work everday n spending most of your time there. i guess ur the only sucker who would be happy with it.
 
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