It did not start as a religion. This is based on historical data.
It does not really matter where you facing as God is right in front no matter where.very close if only you know!Earlier mosques are facing petra, not mecca.
https://www.sammyboy.com/threads/early-mosques-face-petra-not-mecca.296921/
By 624 AD, all mosques were supposed to be facing Mecca. And yet, it took 200 years for Islam to finally get their "unity of direction of prayer" right and point all their mosques towards Mecca.
200 years!
Something is obviously wrong here. The historical facts are not tying up with the Islamic sources. That is the reason scholars are now investigating why that is.
The Qibla literally means "direction," and in Islam refers to the direction in which a Muslim must pray.
Classic Islamic history tells us that Muhammad first taught Muslims to pray towards Jerusalem, but then supposedly received a revelation from Allah changing the direction of prayer to Mecca instead. This change was made in 624 AD.
All slides and maps in this article are screenshots which were taken from a video of Jay Smith's presentation at Calvary Church Chino Hills in 2013, a link for which video is provided below.
The blue arrows in this map show where Qiblas were pointing in the earliest days of Islam, or around the 620-630s, just before the death of Muhammad. As you can see, they point, not towards either Jerusalem or Mecca, but to Petra.
Here is a satellite view of the Great Mosque of Guangzhou which was built in 630 AD, and whose Qibla points Muslims to pray towards Petra.
The Qibla of the Humeima Mosque in southwestern Jordan points toward Petra.
The Qibla of the Great Mosque of Ba'albek in Lebanon points to Petra.
The Qibla of the Great Mosque of Sana'a built in Yemen in 705 AD points to Petra.
The Qibla of the Al Aqsa Mosque built in Jerusalem in 709 AD points to Petra.
The Qibla of the Damascus Mosque built in Syria also in 709 AD points to Petra.
The Qibla of the Anjar Mosque built in Beirut in 714 AD points to Petra.
The Qibla of the Mosque of Umar built in Syria in 720 AD points to Petra.
In 727 AD, a mosque was finally built in Banbhore, Pakistan, the Qibla of which points to Mecca. That is 103 years after Muhammad's supposed revelation changing the direction from Jerusalem to Mecca.
But, about a year later, the al-Sharqi Mosque is built in Syria that still points to Petra.
The Mushatte Mosque in Amman was built in 743 AD, and it was still facing Petra.
The Ribat Fortress in Tunisia was built in 770, and it faced neither Petra nor Mecca.
It was the same with the Cordoba Mosque in Spain, built in 784. Its Qibla pointed towards neither Petra or Mecca.
Ditto for the Great Mosque of Kairouan, built in 817 AD.
So here is what we know:
The conflict between history, archaeology and the classical account of Islam's beginnings is etched in stone, no pun intended.
There is no explanation in the Islamic sources for the original Qibla being Petra, nor any explanation as to why there is no valley in Mecca, or a stream, or fields, trees or grass, clay or loam, and no pillar of salt.
The question is also raised about why the Quran would speak of grapes and olives and other fruits in Mecca, where none grow except dates. On the other hand, Jay notes that...
lianbeng was told that Christians are those who follow Jesus Christ lah!
Yes. Faith is a belief in a spiritual/religious doctrine, in the absence of proof. Once faith enters a discussion, all logic goes out the window. And I walk away.
Are you a Jew? No? Then why do you follow Jesus?lianbeng was told that Christians are those who follow Jesus Christ lah!
What about your paedophile prophet? U fellas still worshipping him day n night?
The little girls' age is a source of dispute. From 9 to 17. We can't be sure. However it is a fact that when Abu Bakar, his closest companion betrothed his little daughter to be married, she remains at her father's home until puberty. Puberty could be of any age from 9 to 15. It is a custom that once they reached puberty, they can be married off, as also mentioned in the bible.
Muhammad didn't do no such thing.
Look at the context of when that happen. They had a truce with the Quraish tribes and the Quraish repeatedly broke the treaty, until Allah sent down a command allowing them to defend themselves. Thus it was a period of war. And as the custom of the previous generations and prophets in the bible, the loser loses his property and sold off as slaves.
There is only one example of someone who left Islam and killed. The context was that he joined Islam and became a scribe to Muhammad. Later on he was found out to be trying to falsifying and fabricating the verses. He quickly left Islam and bragged about it and joined the enemies of Islam and fought against Muslims.
So if the conditions are right, we do follow the prophet.
The little girls' age is a source of dispute. From 9 to 17. We can't be sure. However it is a fact that when Abu Bakar, his closest companion betrothed his little daughter to be married, she remains at her father's home until puberty. Puberty could be of any age from 9 to 15. It is a custom that once they reached puberty, they can be married off, as also mentioned in the bible.
You believe in cunt hole.
Any person with the right frame of mind would not even think of having a 9yr girl as a bride! Is there a dispute whether she was deflowered @ 9yrs old, 12 or 15?
Key difference is that she is past puberty.
You listen to western media without thinking. Just like you're listening to them about Ukraine now.
Umfortunately it's not in dispute in the quran and hadiths. It's only "in dispute" in later writings of embarrased Islamic scholars who tried to explain away why it was written that Mohammad had sex with Aisha when she was 9 years old.
Amongst Muslim scholars it is in dispute. Some narrations mention 9, some 14, some doesn't mention it at all. The fact is we are not embarrassed about it as we are clear that women can be married off at puberty.
You mean believe in a book full of errors, contradictions, edited versions and is the work of man?
You mean some versions of the quran say Mohammad consummated his marriage with Aisah when she was 9 years old and other versions of the quran say 14?
