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Traffic jams at both CIQs (Woodlands Causeway and Tuas 2nd Link)

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SPORE HAS NO REASON FOR THE INCREASE..IT DOESN'T A ROCKET SCI ENTIST TO FIGURE IT OUT.WHAT DOES LONG STANDING AGREEMENT MEANS IF THERE'S NO REAL DEFINITION.

ANE MAHATHIR SAID ALL THE WHILE IS TRUE,SPORE HAS NVER BEEN A GOOd neighbor.IT SEEMS ONLY wANE MA HATHIR CAN STAND UP TO :wink:
ALL tHe TALK ABOUT JOHOR LOSING IF THINGS GET OUT OF HAND,

IMAGINE IF JB CUSTOM STOPS ALL JB TO WORKERS TO COME SPORE EVEN A DAY,IT WILL EFFEC t SPORE.

The damage IS ALWAYS both sides.

We SINGAPOREAN must stop thinking that spore is so great that any other parties will suffer but not us.

Seriously..wat is Singapore justification on this increase???DUE TO LONG STANDING MATCHING OF INCREASE???That simplistic a reason that effects people's lives?

THAT'S PURE ARROGANCE.

WE ARE ECONOMICALLY RICH BUT WE ARE ALWAYS SMALL.WE NEED OTHERS ...

No real reason for JB to raise toll in e first place. The recipient of e toll is not clear. SG can always change immigration policy to allow more other nationalities to take over Malaysian workers.
 

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Actually the feedback in recent years is that China/Pinoy workers are fast displacing Malaysians.

Not that I don't wan to employ Malaysians but in terms of diligence, the younger generation is not on par with the PRC and Pinoy. They lack the drive


No real reason for JB to raise toll in e first place. The recipient of e toll is not clear. SG can always change immigration policy to allow more other nationalities to take over Malaysian workers.
 

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Unemployment rate in Malaysia is low and productivity is low too. Ex Malaysia PM said becos of laziness.
Actually the feedback in recent years is that China/Pinoy workers are fast displacing Malaysians.

Not that I don't wan to employ Malaysians but in terms of diligence, the younger generation is not on par with the PRC and Pinoy. They lack the drive
 

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You get hardworking PRC but also have to contend with more short cuts and deviousness which might hit you hard further down the line.
 

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Actually the feedback in recent years is that China/Pinoy workers are fast displacing Malaysians.

Not that I don't wan to employ Malaysians but in terms of diligence, the younger generation is not on par with the PRC and Pinoy. They lack the drive

What's the pay's difference between a PRC or Pinoy and a Malaysian that you're offering? In Pinoyland, you can build a 2 storey house for under SGD20k in suburb area. If same pay, who will work harder?
Overall, JB nowadays not that cheap anymore, ok!
 

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Causeway toll hike to impact businesses in Iskandar, says daily
Published: 16 September 2014

The impending increase in tolls at the Causeway will impact businesses looking to relocate operations to the Iskandar special economic zone in Johor, Todayonline reported.

The report cited Association of Small and Medium Enterprises president Kurt Wee who said that even before the toll charges were raised, the 15% to 20% savings Singaporean firms in Iskandar had enjoyed “were not great”, adding that availability of labour and rising property costs were among the major reservations Singaporean firms had about moving to Iskandar.

Other experts agreed, saying that the rise in toll charges would affect the local economy in Johor as Singaporeans might go there less often. Similarly, the supply of Malaysian workers to Singaporean firms might shrink.

“If both (countries) keep catching up with each other, those that have part of their production facilities in Iskandar have to relook their calculations and decide to move the whole supply chain there and export their goods from ports in Johor, while those with sub-contracting or outsourcing arrangements to Iskandar may think twice about shifting things over,” Singapore Business Federation chief operating officer Victor Tay told Todayonline.
On September 12, the Land Transport Authority (LTA) announced that beginning October 1, Singapore would match Malaysia’s recent revision in toll charges as part of its long-standing policy of matching its toll charges at the Causeway to those set by Malaysia.

According to Bernama, the new toll rates will affect all vehicles (except motorcycles) entering Singapore.

The current toll rate for cars leaving Singapore will rise to S$3.80 (RM9.62) from S$1.20 while vans and light goods vehicles will see an increase in the rates to S$5.80 from S$1.90.

The toll rates for taxis and buses will increase to S$1.90 and S$3.10 from S$0.60 and S$1 respectively.

For vehicles entering Singapore, LTA will charge $2.70 for cars, $4 (vans/light goods vehicles), $5.30 (heavy vehicles), $1.40 (taxis) and $2.20 (buses).

Experts told Todayonline that the additional costs incurred by firms operating in both Singapore and Malaysia would likely be passed on to consumers, although commuters and businesses are expected to adjust to the hikes.

“In the short term, if trips to and fro can’t be avoided, it’s more likely costs will be passed on to consumers. What does this mean to you and me? Maybe, an egg will cost a fraction of a cent more. Things like that are inevitable,” CIMB economist Song Seng Wun was quoted as saying.

“Businesses will have to take this into account in the bigger scheme of things, but I don’t think it’s such an important factor to dissuade them either way.”

In an earlier report by Todayonline, National Association of Travel Agents Singapore chief operating officer Anita Tan said the association’s members had indicated Malaysia’s increased toll charges in July had had a significant impact on their businesses.

Johor-based carpenter Lee Chee Seng, meanwhile, had told the daily he might consider stopping supplying goods and services to Singapore, citing difficulties in absorbing the higher toll rates.

Another Malaysian, Hau Boon Siong, who travels daily to Singapore for work, said: “There’s nothing that I can do. What can we do?”

On September 13, DAP Skudai assemblyman Dr Boo Cheng Hau warned that the increase in toll rates would have an adverse impact on businesses in Johor Baru, adding that investor confidence in Iskandar Malaysia would also be affected.

Dr Boo had said that business in Johor Baru had dropped by 30% over the past six weeks following the hefty toll increases at the Causeway to Singapore. – September 16, 2014.

- See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/...s-in-iskandar-says-daily#sthash.6PWzVTgD.dpuf
 

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Businesses in JB within 5 km of the 1st and 2nd links are likely to drop by 50% from 1 Oct 2014 during weekends/holidays. The links will be totally jam free outside peak hours.
 

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Nothing special. Just going back to 2012 where I can hop into JB from my office in Krangi to JB @ 11am in under 20 min. Now it took me 1 hour at times



Businesses in JB within 5 km of the 1st and 2nd links are likely to drop by 50% from 1 Oct 2014 during weekends/holidays. The links will be totally jam free outside peak hours.
 

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Businesses in JB within 5 km of the 1st and 2nd links are likely to drop by 50% from 1 Oct 2014 during weekends/holidays. The links will be totally jam free outside peak hours.

Noticably very thin crowd over the weekend (Sat) at Tesco Tebrau and Giant Plentong. Definitely lesser S plate cars at car wash as well. So come Oct, it will be worse ....
 

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S'pore has finally rolled the ball back to M'sia side..
So now is M'sia side to decide whether to reduce or do away with the toll charges, so Singapore will follow suit..
Now M'sia side kena stuck dun know what to do.. Reduce or remind or do away will lose face.. Increase will kena hamtam jialet jialet from its ppl.. :*:
 

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Noticably very thin crowd over the weekend (Sat) at Tesco Tebrau and Giant Plentong. Definitely lesser S plate cars at car wash as well. So come Oct, it will be worse ....

Bukit Indah Aeon jammed like mad today ard 4pm. I wanted to polish my car at Giant also queued for 2hrs n in end gave up. Almost all J-plate ard Bukit Indah. I think those near 1st n 2nd link will be hit harder.
 

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Bukit Indah Aeon jammed like mad today ard 4pm. I wanted to polish my car at Giant also queued for 2hrs n in end gave up. Almost all J-plate ard Bukit Indah. I think those near 1st n 2nd link will be hit harder.

REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENS WHEN TAXI PRICE HIKE ANNOUNCED?every SINGAPOREAN made a bit hoohahha even threatening to boycott taxis .WELL UP TO NOW...INSTEAD OF LESS TQKING TAXI,TAXI DEMAND HAVE GONE UP.TAXI IS NOT ENUF!

Well it's true others say other foreign workers can easily replace Malaysian .but do not forget that many Malaysians have Singapore relatives here even our Mps.

So it's not straight forward case.

You see empty lorries driving back to jb in late noon?well they did not enter empty .assume we don't buy from them,we can always get from other countries,sure there is always the other way,BUT COSTS WILL BE DIFFERent and who will end up paying the difference?

Same like buying sands from Malaysia would be cheaper, but Malaysia won't sell.so we go Indonesia and Vietnam .imagine the costs of transporting sands across the sea...
 

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REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENS WHEN TAXI PRICE HIKE ANNOUNCED?every SINGAPOREAN made a bit hoohahha even threatening to boycott taxis .WELL UP TO NOW...INSTEAD OF LESS TQKING TAXI,TAXI DEMAND HAVE GONE UP.TAXI IS NOT ENUF!

Well it's true others say other foreign workers can easily replace Malaysian .but do not forget that many Malaysians have Singapore relatives here even our Mps.

So it's not straight forward case.

You see empty lorries driving back to jb in late noon?well they did not enter empty .assume we don't buy from them,we can always get from other countries,sure there is always the other way,BUT COSTS WILL BE DIFFERent and who will end up paying the difference?

Same like buying sands from Malaysia would be cheaper, but Malaysia won't sell.so we go Indonesia and Vietnam .imagine the costs of transporting sands across the sea...

Going JB over e weekend is really optional. Taxi demand is high because COE is extremely expensive n expires in 10 years. Our bus or MRT transport were crushingly packed and/or breakdown, and still do. Last option when u r rushing for work ir appointment is really cab. I repeat: going JB is really optional except for those staying in JB n working in SG. At worse people stay at home.
 

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From The Star:

JOHOR BARU: It has only been over a month since Malaysia introduced the new toll rates and businesses are starting to feel the pinch.

Malaysian Small and Medium Enterprise (SME) association chairman Teh Kee Sin said there had been complaints from members that they had suffered a 20% to 30% drop in business, mainly in the logistics, advertising, entertainment, retail sectors and those involved in the hairstyling business.

“The full extent of the situation will be known after Singa*pore also increases its toll rates beginning Oct 1,” he said, adding that this would have a snowball effect on all businesses in Johor.
 

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i may get slammed for this but i personally feel that we should significantly reduce the motorcyclist population commuting to Singapore and explore introducing premium bus services to MRT stations- reduce pollution, encourage the use of public transport and relieve the congestion at the causeways. What do you think?
 

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AsiaOne | Wednesday, Sep 24, 2014

SINGAPORE - Should Malaysia reduce or do away with the toll charges, Singapore will do the same, a Land Transport Authority (LTA) spokesperson said today.

LTA said in a statement that Singapore's long-standing policy is to match Malaysia's toll rates, which "reflects the shared nature of the Causeway".


Seems that LTA had been repeating this statement very often, are they trying to hint to Malaysia that they should introduce the VEP quickly and charge what they like, LTA would not follow, BUT whatever Malaysia do with the toll, LTA would follow.

I had a feeling that current inbound toll to Johor of RM9.70 (may change according to their appetite) would be changed to VEP instead of toll, and the outbound toll would be collected as causeway toll of RM6.80. This way, LTA can only increase the outbound toll from Singapore to S$2.70 and NO inbound toll.
 

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Same what. All must still pay some how.. People can do the sums
 

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SPORE HAS NO REASON FOR THE INCREASE..IT DOESN'T A ROCKET SCI ENTIST TO FIGURE IT OUT.WHAT DOES LONG STANDING AGREEMENT MEANS IF THERE'S NO REAL DEFINITION.

Building SG CIQ, current/future bridge, maintenance, custom officer/guard easily cost 2.5x more. $ drop from sky har?
 

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No rush at Woodlands Checkpoint ahead of toll fee hike
POSTED: 30 Sep 2014 23:42

Tolls for vehicles leaving Singapore will triple across the board on Oct 1.

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SINGAPORE: From Wednesday (Oct 1), motorists leaving and entering Singapore from the Woodlands Checkpoint will have to pay higher toll charges.

Tolls for vehicles leaving Singapore are set to triple across the board. And for the first time, vehicles travelling across the Causeway will also have to pay a toll to enter Singapore. The increase in toll charges is to match those charged by Malaysia and only applies to the Woodlands Checkpoint.

TRAFFIC A FEW HOURS BEFORE MIDNIGHT

Hours before the toll charges kick in, traffic from Singapore to Malaysia was heavy, but no different from the normal flow of traffic of those heading back to Johor Bahru after a day of work, our reporter noted. Near the checkpoint, there were also signs informing commuters and motorists of changes in the toll fees.

On the other side, traffic was heavy as well, with many from Johor Bahru trying to cross to Singapore before midnight.

STUDENTS MAY BE AFFECTED

Some motorists coming from Malaysia have opted to travel through the Second Link instead of through Woodlands. There are concerns that students travelling from Johor to their schools in Singapore may be affected, especially with some secondary schools currently holding exams.

The Ministry of Education said it is monitoring the situation and in the event of congestion, it will work with schools to advise parents of students who may be affected by delays to plan alternative arrangements.

Schools and examination centres have been briefed by the procedures to manage such situations and arrangements will be made for affected students to ensure they are not penalised.

REACTION TO THE NEW TOLL FEES

Channel NewsAsia understands that because of the toll fee hike, the Singapore-Johore Express would be raising ticket prices from S$2.50 to S$3.00 and that another bus service, Causeway Link would also raise prices by S$0.50 from Oct 6.

People that Channel NewsAsia spoke to said they would have to make adjustments and cut down on trips across the Causeway. Some expressed hope that both countries would quickly reconcile on the issue of toll fees. Singapore had said it raised toll fees because of a longstanding policy to match Malaysia's, and that it would follow suit in Malaysia lowers its charges.

- CNA/ek

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/no-rush-at-woodlands/1390310.html
 

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I am now in woodlands chokepoint waiting to clear custom. Been waiting for 30mins. Can anyone confirm if the toll has been increased or decreased???
 
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