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Traffic jams at both CIQs (Woodlands Causeway and Tuas 2nd Link)

bakkuttay

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for every ringgit malaysia imposed for toll charges, singapore will impose same in singapore dollars.

this will only help singapore gobberment laughing all the way to the bank.
 

Bubble

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IT IS STRANGE THAT SPORE 'HAD TO' increase toll JUST because Malaysia did.Since our lives and economy are the same.

WILL SPORE SELL CAR SAME PRICE AS JB?OR AT LEAST SAME ROAD TAX?

Spore govt is spoilt just bcos Sporean don't go out the street,It's not only people commuting but daily food necessity like veg frm Malaysia will no doubt rise
 

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Don't think that Singapore wants to increase the toll.
It really doesn't benefit them.
The toll increase is not really significant in increasing its coffers compare to what it can get from elsewhere
 

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This morning at 8am, I drove all the way to the immigration counter at 2nd link. Only one car in front of me. As a result, I was way too early for my appointment. Seems they opened more counters around 8am? Or it is a rare occurrence.
 

bakkuttay

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it will be a small consolation if higher toll means more counters being open.
 

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This morning at 8am, I drove all the way to the immigration counter at 2nd link. Only one car in front of me. As a result, I was way too early for my appointment. Seems they opened more counters around 8am? Or it is a rare occurrence.

Totally no jam for me in n out. Good to have higher toll. I hate jams.
 

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Now Toll $13...... But save you time & some petrol (cos jam very long also wasting petrol.. maybe $3-5)

Until it becomes the new norm....

Anyway, our govt rationale for raising tolls is just plain ridiculous, case of monkey see monkey do....haiz....supposedly top brains earning top money but come up with such low level reasoning.
 

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Until it becomes the new norm....

Anyway, our govt rationale for raising tolls is just plain ridiculous, case of monkey see monkey do....haiz....supposedly top brains earning top money but come up with such low level reasoning.
It has been agreed by both gov since the beginning that S'pore will match the toll imposed by M'sia side..
S'pore gov just act accordingly.. and then roll the ball back to the M'sia court to let them decide whether they wish to remind or reduce..
So ppl wish to blame will blame the M'sia gov.. Not S'pore gov.. Smart hah! Haha :biggrin:
 
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No changes in fares for bus services to Johor for now
By Kok Xing Hui
POSTED: 17 Sep 2014 07:19

The Public Transport Council says it has not received any application from either SBS Transit or SMRT to revise fares for the three public bus services that go to Johor.

SINGAPORE: Commuters using public buses and tour coaches to travel to Malaysia can breathe easy despite the recent announcements on the Causeway toll hikes, at least for now.

The three public bus services that go to Johor Baru are classified as basic services, for which fares can be revised only at the Public Transport Council’s annual round of fare reviews.

The council told TODAY it has not received any application from either SBS Transit, which runs services 160 and 170, or SMRT, which runs the 950 service, to revise these fares.

Fares for basic bus services, including 160, 170 and 950, were last revised in April. Queries to both public transport operators were unanswered by press time.

Similarly, private bus operators say they have no plans to raise ticket prices at the moment. Grassland Express and Tours’ general manager Tan Boon Huat and his counterpart at CitiExchange Express said their companies would absorb the hike.

Last month, Malaysia started charging higher tolls for entering Johor via the Causeway. It also imposed a new fee for exiting the Customs, Immigration and Quarantine Complex at the Sultan Iskandar Building.

Last week, the Singapore Government announced that it would match these moves beginning Oct 1.

While the toll hikes appear to have had a less significant impact on buses because of their passenger load, the additional cost could add up when a higher number of trips are made.

Private coach companies declined to reveal the number of trips they make across the Causeway, but a check on bus schedules for Aeroline, for example, showed at least nine buses leave Singapore daily. Grassland, which operates services to many locations in Malaysia, runs 13 buses per day to Kuala Lumpur alone.

As for public buses, SBS Transit services 160 and 170 each run four to five buses an hour between the peak hours of 5pm to 7pm. In that same window, SMRT’s service 950 runs five to six times. The route for service 170 runs from the Queen Street Terminal to Larkin Terminal, while bus service 160 runs from Jurong East Interchange to Kotaraya II Terminal. Service 950 plies the Woodlands to Kotaraya II Terminal route.

Most motorists, however, were not swayed to switch to travelling by bus to Malaysia despite the cost savings they could enjoy.

A drive across the Causeway will cost S$3.80 and RM9.70 from Oct 1, while private bus services, such as the Singapore-Johore Express, cost only S$2.40 one way.

Engineer Peter Ong, 56, said travelling by bus was too inconvenient, especially since most of his trips involve weekend stays in his Malaysian home. Likewise, Mr Ryan Lin, 32, a lawyer, said the higher charges are unlikely to affect his travel patterns since his trips north of the border are infrequent.

-TODAY/cy

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/no-changes-in-fares-for/1365862.html
 

freedom

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May I know what is the time to get across woodlands and tuas causeway in the morning to get kids to school maybe 5.30am and at night at 7.30pm?
 

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Malaysia wants to meet Singapore to discuss Causeway toll hike: Reports
POSTED: 19 Sep 2014 20:13

In a report in The Star Online, Malaysia’s Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Wee Ka Siong was quoted as saying that Singapore’s reason for the toll hike was “unjustified”, and that Malaysia officials want to meet their Singapore counterparts as soon as possible to discuss the situation.

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia officials want to meet their Singapore counterparts to get the city-state to reconsider its decision to increase checkpoint toll fees at the Causeway, according to the local media.

Singapore’s reason for the toll hike was “unjustified”, Malaysia’s Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Wee Ka Siong was quoted as saying in a report in The Star Online on Friday (Sep 19). He said that a meeting between Malaysia and Singapore officials would take place “as soon as possible”, for Malaysia to find out the reason for the increased toll charges at the Sultan Iskandar Customs, Immigration and Quarantine (CIQ) Complex.

“We have to meet them personally to rectify their perception that Malaysia introduced a new charge at the CIQ to pay the concessionaire and to upgrade the Eastern Dispersal Link (EDL),” Dr Wee said. “It should not be an excuse for them (Singapore) to increase their toll charges.”

On Aug 1, Singapore had raised fees for the Vehicle Entry Permit (VEP) for foreign-registered cars and the Goods Vehicle Permit (GVP). On the same day, Malaysia's government raised toll charges for all vehicles, except motorcycles, travelling from Singapore to Johor through the Causeway, and imposed a new Causeway toll for all vehicles travelling from Johor to Singapore.

Subsequently, Singapore’s Land Transport Authority announced that it would increase toll charges for all vehicles, except motorcycles, leaving Singapore through the Causeway from Oct 1. There will also be a new toll charge introduced for vehicles, except motorcycles, entering Singapore.

The move is in line with Singapore's long-standing policy of matching its toll charges at the Causeway and Second Link to those set by Malaysia, and Singapore will follow suit should Malaysia reduce or do away with the toll charges, the LTA has said. It had also pointed out the difference between Singapore’s VEP and GVP fees, and Malaysia’s new Causeway toll charges.

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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/malaysia-wants-to-meet/1371032.html
 

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The Malaysian officials are getting panicky. Malaysia is very unlikely to increase the VEP by end of this year as it is likely to dent Johor's economy.
 

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Yup. VEP will totally stop Johor in its tracks.
Stupid decision.
 

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If Singapore refuse then things could get very nasty eg they will open the Petra Blanca case, huge hike in cost of raw water, suspension of RTS,HSR , repossess properties owned by Singaporeans, what else ?
 

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If Singapore refuse then things could get very nasty eg they will open the Petra Blanca case, huge hike in cost of raw water, suspension of RTS,HSR , repossess properties owned by Singaporeans, what else ?

SG will of course refuse lah..... But its just posturing on Malaysia's part to be seen to do something. Toll increase will take place on 1 Oct, some drivers will switch to Tuas, some will car pool, some will take bus/motors, and life will go on.
 

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If Singapore refuse then things could get very nasty eg they will open the Petra Blanca case, huge hike in cost of raw water, suspension of RTS,HSR , repossess properties owned by Singaporeans, what else ?

SPORE HAS NO REASON FOR THE INCREASE..IT DOESN'T A ROCKET SCI ENTIST TO FIGURE IT OUT.WHAT DOES LONG STANDING AGREEMENT MEANS IF THERE'S NO REAL DEFINITION.

ANE MAHATHIR SAID ALL THE WHILE IS TRUE,SPORE HAS NVER BEEN A GOOd neighbor.IT SEEMS ONLY wANE MA HATHIR CAN STAND UP TO :wink:
ALL tHe TALK ABOUT JOHOR LOSING IF THINGS GET OUT OF HAND,

IMAGINE IF JB CUSTOM STOPS ALL JB TO WORKERS TO COME SPORE EVEN A DAY,IT WILL EFFEC t SPORE.

The damage IS ALWAYS both sides.

We SINGAPOREAN must stop thinking that spore is so great that any other parties will suffer but not us.

Seriously..wat is Singapore justification on this increase???DUE TO LONG STANDING MATCHING OF INCREASE???That simplistic a reason that effects people's lives?

THAT'S PURE ARROGANCE.

WE ARE ECONOMICALLY RICH BUT WE ARE ALWAYS SMALL.WE NEED OTHERS ...
 
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