TR - Molina Han - Panama - Eugene Yeo - Joe Ong

[Thick Face Black Heart]

"You only do the best things in the worst positions" - Perspective

I thought people do the worst things when awarded the best positions.

 

[PTADER]

You start with bygones and end with bygones but full of venom in the middle. What happened? Still no change. Still can't debate the issues and still hooked on labeling people.

You thought that I was the ex-editor of SPH and came out with cooking book research line, hoping that I will cringe and fold. I don't know why you are fixated with SPH and why you think I am the editor.

The guys here might remember your vitriol and might offer peace offerings but that is their lot. Hopefully those from the past and those who hid behind your shadow will emerge and keep us entertained.

Imagine all the venom and suddenly calling people "bro". The very people who you despised and attacked with no mercy for so long.

Please don't come out with another opening line of bygones and close your venom with another bygone line.

I do what I do best and that is to back up what I say with facts. And that is precisely the reason why you have not denied your conduct Scroobal.

If you shed your hypocrisy, you will see that what you were/are doing was/ is the same exact labelling that you seem now to so self-righteously detest. I was shocked to read of Ramseth's meek response "I am sad but I will not respond" when he came under one of your ad hominem attacks.

I never knew you had grown in this forum to be a little Lee Kuan Yew where no one dared to robustly questioned you, dispute what you say, confront your poisonous ad hominem attacks for fear of more knuckle dustings from you. Looks like even forums like this requires checks and balances to prevent little tyrannical Lee Kuan Yews from cropping up.

As I said, Sam screwed up when he made you moderator and worse, with powers to edit postings. It conferred upon you the respectability that you never had in the old forum by those who knew you very well. For those who knew of your past, your powers as moderator to edit what they wanted to post was indeed an unpalatable one.

Face it Scroobal. You are no angel. You have done it all. From revealing people's personal details to venomous labelling and all the egregious actions that you so now self-righteously despise even as you did (and still currently do) them.

I am simply giving you a taste of your own medicine.

As I said, I am happy to stop it and let bygones be bygones. In fact, I gave you the same advice of letting bygones be bygones last year on 28 December 2009 in one of my two private messages to you. This was shortly after I re-joined the forum a day earlier on 27 December 2009.

What do you? You continue to attack the old forummers behind our backs and in our absence from this forum where we were no longer around to defend ourselves.

If you stop your dishonest and egregious nonsense of rewriting history and attacking the old posters from the past who are no longer in this forum to defend themselves, I will stop the revelations.

Peace to you my brother.

 

[PTADER]

You thought that I was the ex-editor of SPH and came out with cooking book research line, hoping that I will cringe and fold. I don't know why you are fixated with SPH and why you think I am the editor.

BTW, I am not quite sure about your fixation with this "cookbook" written by an ex-editor and how in the world it is linked to you being an ex-editor or you having to come up twice to deny that you are one when nothing was said about you being one.

(BTW, it is not a cookbook. It is a book on "Where to find good food in Singapore?")

As I said, I am presently writing a novel and carrying out some research about the culinary scene in Singapore in the past to add authencity to the novel. I knew the younger brother - who sadly has passed away - of the writer who once worked with SPH but left many years ago to run his own business.

Please don't read too much into an innocuous query. Peace to you my brother.

 

[scroobal]

Looks like bygones are never bygones with you. Ad Hominen central and it is still in your DNA - the labeling that is. Here are your usual when you can't get your argument across
- hypocrisy
- dishonest
- fraud
- wolf dressed in sheep's clothing.
- now little lee kuan yew

And as usual , after the venom, a peace message.

What facts? I never recall you giving any facts. Opinions yes, vitriol yes and plenty, bullying yes, You however had access to the SPH media archives and you would selectively post here without the link to the source. I sure most agree that the SPH archives were valuable when the full context is clear. It did help those in the forum.

By the way, how is Gopalan, your freedom fighter.

I do however like your journalistic taglines - opening with something innocuous and ending with a peace message. Why don't you bold it and put it in colour, so the gullible would not read the middle and think that you are indeed a man of peace.

How is your other nic "Chau Vi Nist" - I suppose that is not hypocritical, just convenient.

Obviously I am no angel. If I was, I would not be yanking your chain at will and still getting you to spew venom after each and every peace offering. You also got to stop saying that it will be your last post. It never will be. Your bullying days and WP baru days are over. You met your match and your best hope is to convince the newbies here that you are indeed a man of peace and are being victimised.

Now lets see, you attempted to suck up to
- Porfiro
- ramseth
- Locke
- Perspective

You forgot GMS. I suppose he too has matured and have become a fine specimen of mankind. His arrogance gone and the brotherly love can begin.

What a scene, the schoolyard bully and thug with his usual mates is now gone, shaking hands and giving little pecks on the cheek.

ps. remember, the venom first and the peace offering later in every post. Something in the state controlled media that I suppose is ingrained.

Yet another yank of the chain - and you can't help yourself, their will be a rejoinder even if it kills you.

I do what I do best and that is to back up what I say with facts. And that is precisely the reason why you have not denied your conduct Scroobal.

If you shed your hypocrisy, you will see that what you were/are doing was/ is the same exact labelling that you seem now to so self-righteously detest. I was shocked to read of Ramseth's meek response "I am sad but I will not respond" when he came under one of your ad hominem attacks.

I never knew you had grown in this forum to be a little Lee Kuan Yew where no one dared to robustly questioned you, dispute what you say, confront your poisonous ad hominem attacks for fear of more knuckle dustings from you. Looks like even forums like this requires checks and balances to prevent little tyrannical Lee Kuan Yews from cropping up.

As I said, Sam screwed up when he made you moderator and worse, with powers to edit postings. It conferred upon you the respectability that you never had in the old forum by those who knew you very well. For those who knew of your past, your powers as moderator to edit what they wanted to post was indeed an unpalatable one.

Face it Scroobal. You are no angel. You have done it all. From revealing people's personal details to venomous labelling and all the egregious actions that you so now self-righteously despise even as you did (and still currently do) them.

I am simply giving you a taste of your own medicine.

As I said, I am happy to stop it and let bygones be bygones. In fact, I gave you the same advice of letting bygones be bygones last year on 28 December 2009 in one of my two private messages to you. This was shortly after I re-joined the forum a day earlier on 27 December 2009.

What do you? You continue to attack the old forummers behind our backs and in our absence from this forum where we were no longer around to defend ourselves.

If you stop your dishonest and egregious nonsense of rewriting history and attacking the old posters from the past who are no longer in this forum to defend themselves, I will stop the revelations.

Peace to you my brother.

 

[PTADER]

What I disagree with him is that WP holds the record of "talking-down". KJ/RP has clearly broken the record and the needle of the arrogance meter that was used to measure WP.

Will check this "KJ's arrogance" out bro. I've left the forum scene and post and read only occasionally (like now) so I am not in the loop about this KJ chap or what he says online apart from knowing that he is JBJ's son and a few other stuff about the Reform Party.

If he is acting like a prima donna, he needs to get his balls cut off (metaphorically of course, I don't want to get arrested) to bring him down to earth.


BTW, this was my advice to the TR chap made in private in January this year (my email has been edited out to prevent "fan" mail). Unfortunately, I think it is in the nature of people to start getting arrogant when they think they have a little power and they start behaving like little Lee Kuan Yews.


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From: Temasek Review <[email protected]> [Save Address] [Block Sender] [This Is Spam]
To: ptader ptader <ptader@..................>
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Subject: Re: Friendly Advice: Eric How
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:41:33 +0800


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Hi Ptader,

Thanks for your advice. This type of treatment is only dished out to PAP members. We have been waiting for a long time for this chance. Don't be soft on the PAP. We are not threatening to sue him, just demanding he retracts the statement or we will lodge more complaints to the higher authorities. Just stay tuned for the good show ahead.


On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, ptader ptader <ptader@..........> wrote:

"TR demands YPAP member Eric How retracts DEFAMATORY statements about it on YPAP Facebook and apologize for his LIES"


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Friend,

Suggest you don't behave like the PAP and start issuing ultimatums, threatening to take action, etc. People dislike the PAP precisely (apart from other things) for their arrogance and when you start sounding like them or behaving in an arrogant fashion like them, it turns people off what you have to say or off your site.

You are running a very good site and the least you want to do is to turn people off or to make threats that everyone knows cannot be carried out in the first place as non of you want your identity compromised.

Hammer him/them for all that is worth with facts and figures (and you are doing a good job at it) but please don't sing their signature "you-have-defame-me" (implicit or explicit) threats.

Your offer to help out Andrew/TOC is precisely the type of tune you should sing, one of magnamity which will endear you and your site to people. Once you shed magnamity and turn bully, you will be no different from those you hate.


Regards,
PTADER

 

[Perspective]

I thought people do the worst things when awarded the best positions.

Both are true

 

[Perspective]

Will check this "KJ's arrogance" out bro. I've left the forum scene and post and read only occasionally (like now) so I am not in the loop about this KJ chap or what he says online apart from knowing that he is JBJ's son and a few other stuff about the Reform Party.

If he is acting like a prima donna, he needs to get his balls cut off (metaphorically of course, I don't want to get arrested) to bring him down to earth.


BTW, this was my advice to the TR chap made in private in January this year (my email has been edited out to prevent "fan" mail). Unfortunately, I think it is in the nature of people to start getting arrogant when they think they have a little power and they start behaving like little Lee Kuan Yews.


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From: Temasek Review <[email protected]> [Save Address] [Block Sender] [This Is Spam]
To: ptader ptader <ptader@..................>
CC:
Subject: Re: Friendly Advice: Eric How
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:41:33 +0800


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Hi Ptader,

Thanks for your advice. This type of treatment is only dished out to PAP members. We have been waiting for a long time for this chance. Don't be soft on the PAP. We are not threatening to sue him, just demanding he retracts the statement or we will lodge more complaints to the higher authorities. Just stay tuned for the good show ahead.


On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, ptader ptader <ptader@..........> wrote:

"TR demands YPAP member Eric How retracts DEFAMATORY statements about it on YPAP Facebook and apologize for his LIES"


********
Friend,

Suggest you don't behave like the PAP and start issuing ultimatums, threatening to take action, etc. People dislike the PAP precisely (apart from other things) for their arrogance and when you start sounding like them or behaving in an arrogant fashion like them, it turns people off what you have to say or off your site.

You are running a very good site and the least you want to do is to turn people off or to make threats that everyone knows cannot be carried out in the first place as non of you want your identity compromised.

Hammer him/them for all that is worth with facts and figures (and you are doing a good job at it) but please don't sing their signature "you-have-defame-me" (implicit or explicit) threats.

Your offer to help out Andrew/TOC is precisely the type of tune you should sing, one of magnamity which will endear you and your site to people. Once you shed magnamity and turn bully, you will be no different from those you hate.


Regards,
PTADER

Thanks for the info, bro. KJ is more on Facebook than online forums. But I think he has toned down alot, to be fair.

 

[scroobal]

Good to see that you are helping the chap redeem himself. Good to see that Joe Ong and the old PM khakis do keep in touch.

Thanks for the info, bro. KJ is more on Facebook than online forums. But I think he has toned down alot, to be fair.

 

[PTADER]

Looks like bygones are never bygones with you. Ad Hominen central and it is still in your DNA - the labeling that is. Here are your usual when you can't get your argument across
- hypocrisy
- dishonest
- fraud
- wolf dressed in sheep's clothing.
- now little lee kuan yew

And as usual , after the venom, a peace message.

What facts? I never recall you giving any facts. Opinions yes, vitriol yes and plenty, bullying yes, You however had access to the SPH media archives and you would selectively post here without the link to the source. I sure most agree that the SPH archives were valuable when the full context is clear. It did help those in the forum.

By the way, how is Gopalan, your freedom fighter.

I do however like your journalistic taglines - opening with something innocuous and ending with a peace message. Why don't you bold it and put it in colour, so the gullible would not read the middle and think that you are indeed a man of peace.

How is your other nic "Chau Vi Nist" - I suppose that is not hypocritical, just convenient.

Obviously I am no angel. If I was, I would not be yanking your chain at will and still getting you to spew venom after each and every peace offering. You also got to stop saying that it will be your last post. It never will be. Your bullying days and WP baru days are over. You met your match and your best hope is to convince the newbies here that you are indeed a man of peace and are being victimised.

Now lets see, you attempted to suck up to
- Porfiro
- ramseth
- Locke
- Perspective

You forgot GMS. I suppose he too has matured and have become a fine specimen of mankind. His arrogance gone and the brotherly love can begin.

What a scene, the schoolyard bully and thug with his usual mates is now gone, shaking hands and giving little pecks on the cheek.

ps. remember, the venom first and the peace offering later in every post. Something in the state controlled media that I suppose is ingrained.

Yet another yank of the chain - and you can't help yourself, their will be a rejoinder even if it kills you.

Peace be upon you my brother. Don't let the sorry bitterness gnaw at your little heart. At your age and notwithstanding your imaginary "I-have-to-go-for-reservist-training" you can't afford it. This bitterness of yours is dangerous to your health.

The "power" you think you have in this forum is, as you will find out, as meaningless as it is ephemeral. You are after all, an "anonymous" poster and have to remain one forever until the day you die.

Think about it, my brother.

 

[scroobal]

Good improvement. Peace message at the start but venom is now cloaked in good upper class language. I am sure we can get there.

I however enjoyed the part where you and the good doctor conversed about Andrew and the "magnamity" (sic) that was needed. One accused him of indulging in pornography and the other was taking pictures of his home while both of you were harassing him to no bounds. It was mother theresa-like and tears flowed from my eyes. What irony.

ps, only a deluded clown will think that there is power in any of this. Its a little distraction, a little thrill from the normal walk of life. It is a site that is associated with a porn site - what power and what illusions of grandeur are involved? You got to stop smoking the stuff.

Peace be upon you my brother. Don't let the sorry bitterness gnaw at your little heart. At your age and notwithstanding your imaginary "I-have-to-go-for-reservist-training" you can't afford it. This bitterness of yours is dangerous to your health.

The "power" you think you have in this forum is, as you will find out, as meaningless as it is ephemeral. You are after all, an "anonymous" poster and have to remain one forever until the day you die.

Think about it, my brother.

 

[PTADER]

Good to see that you are helping the chap redeem himself. Good to see that Joe Ong and the old PM khakis do keep in touch.

Nothing about "redemption" my brother. I suffer no delusions about the illusory and ephemeral nature of "power", especially "power" exercised in Internet forums where you want and have to remain "anonymous" until the day you die.

BTW, my advice to that TR chap about

"Once you shed magnamity and turn bully, you will be no different from those you hate"​

applies to you too, my brother.

Please do see a cardiologist and have that little old ticker of yours checked out. You seem to be full of unhealthy hate and that is very bad for your heart.

Please move on and take time to smell the roses. Enjoy the simple joys of life. Watch the sun rise. Watch the sun set . Let peace fill your heart.

Peace be upon you, my brother.

 

[WayangPartyClub]

Nothing about "redemption" my brother. I suffer no delusions about the illusory and ephemeral nature of "power", especially "power" exercised in Internet forums where you want and have to remain "anonymous" until the day you die.

BTW, my advice to that TR chap about

"Once you shed magnamity and turn bully, you will be no different from those you hate"​

applies to you too, my brother.

Please do see a cardiologist and have that little old ticker of yours checked out. You seem to be full of unhealthy hate and that is very bad for your heart.

Please move on and take time to smell the roses. Enjoy the simple joys of life. Watch the sun rise. Watch the sun set . Let peace fill your heart.

Peace be upon you, my brother.

If only Dr Ong listened to your advise before he went on his ego power trip of threatening to sue every mother son.

 

[PTADER]

ps, only a deluded clown will think that there is power in any of this. Its a little distraction, a little thrill from the normal walk of life. It is a site that is associated with a porn site - what power and what illusions of grandeur are involved? You got to stop smoking the stuff.

That is exactly what I have been telling you my brother. That you have been acting like a deluded clown and a Little Lee Kuan Yew to boot. Your expectations of deference from the mortals in this forum from feeding them with your

"I-have-inside-and-insight" and "I-have-been-spending-11-years-drip-feeding-you-guys-on-the-excesses-of-this-govt-and-the-temerity-of-one man-I-have-revealed-things-that-no-one-has" (Ref: http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.p...474#post581474)​

has to be a classic in self-absorbed narcissism and delusions of grandeur.

All these delusions of your importance is meaningless my brother. Remember, you want to remain anonymous. Even an innocuous request by me for a book had you jumping up not once but twice to deny that you had ever worked for SPH when absolutely nothing of that sort was suggested.

Think about the meaningless of it all, my brother, when you have to jump up and down to deny something that was not even suggested in the first place.

Peace be upon you, my brother.

 

[scroobal]

Getting better. Much nicer tone, more encouraging. Once the last ounce of venom disappears, you will be off the hook. Note the contrast between your first post and this post - chalk and cheese.

Nothing about "redemption" my brother. I suffer no delusions about the illusory and ephemeral nature of "power", especially "power" exercised in Internet forums where you want and have to remain "anonymous" until the day you die.

BTW, my advice to that TR chap about

"Once you shed magnamity and turn bully, you will be no different from those you hate"​

applies to you too, my brother.

Please do see a cardiologist and have that little old ticker of yours checked out. You seem to be full of unhealthy hate and that is very bad for your heart.

Please move on and take time to smell the roses. Enjoy the simple joys of life. Watch the sun rise. Watch the sun set . Let peace fill your heart.

Peace be upon you, my brother.

 

[scroobal]

No good, back to your venomous self again. What gives?

That is exactly what I have been telling you my brother. That you have been acting like a deluded clown and a Little Lee Kuan Yew to boot. Your expectations of deference from the mortals in this forum from feeding them with your

"I-have-inside-and-insight" and "I-have-been-spending-11-years-drip-feeding-you-guys-on-the-excesses-of-this-govt-and-the-temerity-of-one man-I-have-revealed-things-that-no-one-has" (Ref: http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.p...474#post581474)​

has to be a classic in self-absorbed narcissism and delusions of grandeur.

All these delusions of your importance is meaningless my brother. Remember, you want to remain anonymous. Even an innocuous request by me for a book had you jumping up not once but twice to deny that you had ever worked for SPH when absolutely nothing of that sort was suggested.

Think about the meaningless of it all, my brother, when you have to jump up and down to deny something that was not even suggested in the first place.

Peace be upon you, my brother.

 

[God Meng Seng]

No good, back to your venomous self again. What gives?

Scroobal:

Your real identity will be exposed soon.

Please be patient and stay tuned.

 

[annexa]

Sorry to inject but can you guys take your discussion in private please? All these replying is not interesting. Spam folder please.

 

[HellAngel]

Ha...wall of texts...

Sorry to inject but can you guys take your discussion in private please? All these replying is not interesting. Spam folder please.

 

[Debonerman]

I very strongly agree with this.

I find it hard to believe that WP/TR is the work of one single man as there are just too much work for one person to complete in such a short time when the same person has other obligation to fulfill. it is just logically impossible.

I suspect that there is aleast 3 or 4 with this dumb Joe Ong as head and there could be backers as well paying for the work. Now who could they be?

if Joe Ong is indeed held for defamation, would he crack under perssure to show who the rest are or would he just shoulder everything on his own?

Anyway Joe Ong can pay for the defamation and legal fees i m sure.

How many motherfuckers post ununununder this cum eyes nick?